My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
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Get wrecked indeed. Horikoshi going absolutely nuts on the art.
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I am always ready for a JoJo style multiple pages beatdowns.
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Seeing AFO get blasted is always nice.
I was gonna go into a mini rant about Bakugo being able to even do that, but then good guys pulling out a win half-dead is nothing new in shonen. And Horikoshi did at least try to explain how it was possible with the rebelling quirk factors and previous damage done to AFO.Yes, I think Horkoshi was trying to make the MHA world more grounded than most battle shonen series in the beginning. And it can feel weird when he goes full on Popcorn Movie with scenes, but maybe it's his way of injecting some fun back into the series.
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@Nectar said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
And it can feel weird when he goes full on Popcorn Movie with scenes, but maybe it's his way of injecting some fun back into the series.
I barely can even comprehend what exactly happened in this fight, kuddos to you.
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@pariston_hill said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
@Nectar said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
And it can feel weird when he goes full on Popcorn Movie with scenes, but maybe it's his way of injecting some fun back into the series.
I barely can even comprehend what exactly happened in this fight, kuddos to you.
It's simple.
One of the most powerful villains ever is defeated by a half-dead teenage boy who saved lots of money working out his mental issues without the need of professional therapy. Duh!I don't know, P.H. I'm in a weird space with MHA. I'm not happy with the overall direction the series has taken, but there are parts I'm liking. The concept of Bakugo helping to defeat AFO works for me. It may not make sense, but I like it.
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@Nectar said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
One of the most powerful villains ever is defeated by a half-dead teenage boy who saved lots of money working out his mental issues without the need of professional therapy. Duh!
I don't know, P.H. I'm in a weird space with MHA. I'm not happy with the overall direction the series has taken, but there are parts I'm liking. The concept of Bakugo helping to defeat AFO works for me. It may not make sense, but I like it.No no no, that I get. I don't get the physical moves that lead to it.
Also fuck bishonen Hawks, how the hell he was supposed to flip decades old quirk psyches. -
Don't worry. It'll make sense when the anime animates it in a few years.
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I think I read it as
- Spiraling left hook Howitzer Impact to halt AFO's momentum
- Downward swipe flinging sweat like a cluster bomb
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- Grapple AFO's face for point blank explosions
- Firing him into the ground
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In terms of pure spectacle and shonen beatdown, this type of shit delights me.
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Hori definitely going out with a "bang".
And "Get wrecked and shut the hell up" nicely sums up all our feelings about AFO.
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That was some very awkward way to justify/aknowledge that Bakugo didn't win on his own and he only defeated a weakened AfO.
I really don't think it was necessary to shoehorn all those lines into this chapter.
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I think it's fine. If any character was going to dish out the multi-page Muda I think Bakugo was the right choice and it is super satisfying watching AFO finally get the shit kicked out of him. I'm sure he's not done yet, baby him will probably find some sneaky way to get to Shigaraki so he can still be the final boss, but in terms of how his main fight went I think Horikoshi did a good job.
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A live action MHA adaptation is in production at Netflix, likely as a movie: https://collider.com/my-hero-academia-live-action-update/
Frankly I think it's going to be a flop. Much of the fun of MHA comes from seeing a popular subgenre take form through a different medium. A live action adaptation removes that aspect and just leaves us with another superhero property. And a film is almost certainly too short to faithfully adapt the best of the series.
But hey, OPLA and Invincible have both been successful so maybe it'll surprise me.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they saw it as an easier win since they could draw from all the superhero movies out there now.
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AFO died like he should have lived.
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Child Murder
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Aw, I wanted to see Bakugou bullying baby AFO around.
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@King-Cannon said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
AFO died like he should have lived.
Pooping himself uncontrollably?
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Glad All For One is finally gone, although his other self inside Shiggy may throw some shade at some point.
With how long it took taking down AFO, I'm worried this last battle is gonna wear out its welcome eventually. That said, Shigaraki potentially stealing OFA's bonus quirks one-by-one is interesting. -
So what's this thread's feelings towards Shigaraki? Kinda can't stop thinking about all the criticisms he's gotten when Hori's titled his most recent chapter
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Shigiraki's pretty generic, especially with the recent turn towards "destruction for the sake of destruction", but hardly the worst ever.
The weakest part of this series to me has pretty much always been the villains though.
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@Ubiq said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
The weakest part of this series to me has pretty much always been the villains though.
Errrr I don't think he does that well with heroes too.
The only ones with a semblance of personality are Toshinori, Enji and Bakugo.
And there's the three twink boys he loves: Todoroki, Midoriya, Hawks.The only part that I feel Hori was in his domain was the school stuff.
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@pariston_hill said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
Errrr I don't think he does that well with heroes too.
The only ones with a semblance of personality are Toshinori, Enji and Bakugo.
And there's the three twink boys he loves: Todoroki, Midoriya, Hawks.Those are pretty much the characters he spent the most time with which really suggests that some of the other heroes would have been better served by getting more focus.
The villains, though, got a ton of time devoted to them and it just never clicked for me.
The only part that I feel Hori was in his domain was the school stuff.
That was 100% the best part of the series. Well, Mineta aside.
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The school stuff was the best part. But of course it's a shonen series with superpowers, so of course there has to be some big bad, world-threatening force the heroes have to fight against in intense action sequences that Hori isn't especially good at drawing.
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@Ubiq said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
The villains, though, got a ton of time devoted to them and it just never clicked for me.
I think it comes form Hori's understanding that "most criminals become so due to material conditions" and him wanting to do big high stakes destructive Infinity War super battles.
It's like watching someone try to fit Inferno into God Loves, Man Kills.
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The Infinity War super battles where most of the world are just watching it unfold on TV screens while leaving most of it to a bunch of Japanese teenagers.
Even Naruto made more sense where most of the ninja world mobilized to face the global threat.
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@PatTraverse said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
The Infinity War super battles
My bad, I was referencing the '91 Infinity Gauntlet were is just basically different groups of supes dogpiling the bad guy.
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@PatTraverse said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
The Infinity War super battles where most of the world are just watching it unfold on TV screens while leaving most of it to a bunch of Japanese teenagers.
Even Naruto made more sense where most of the ninja world mobilized to face the global threat.
Naruto made more sense but Naruto's Ninja War was also extremely unsatisfying in portions as a result. I much prefer Hiro giving the attention to the character's we've actually been following and care about rather than the top 10 heroes in the world, 7 of whom we've barely seen anything from.
As for Shigaraki, I think in the end it will depend on where Hiro takes him, if he gets talked down by Midoriya or if he goes the completely irredemable, pure villain route. Right now he is just the 'pure destruction' final boss but I think he's still far more interesting and fun to watch than AFO ever was.
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@Ubiq "Recent turn"? Destruction for its own sake has been Shiggy's thing since his chat with Deku.
@pariston_hill Ironically "All the heroes of Earth and the Cosmic Forces of the Marvel Universe vs Thanos" also ended up being a fight that went "Nobody does any damage to the villain", but the twist there is that Thanos ends up winning against all that adversity. In all these overlong tentpole shonen fights, we're expected to believe that taking 12 to 150 chapters fighting a guy will eventually result in the good guys winning through sheer persistence and shonen willpower.
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I disagree with the notion that Shigaraki was always uninteresting - the villains were by far the most interesting part of the series to me, up until Shigaraki started getting everything handed to him on a silver platter post MVA that is. I found most of the pure school stuff fairly generic, and 90% of the students a boring waste of time that went nowhere. Hori suffers immensely from constant new toy syndrome with the heroes, where he introduces some cool new design that he likes, and shafts a majority of the established cast aside in their favor.
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Horikoshi is really trying to handicap Deku. If not physically, then mentally. Makes me wonder how long this fight would last if Deku truly did go for the kill.
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"Inside each one of us beats an innately human heart."
Unless it's All For One, in which case he was just pure evil.
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Is that Star and Stripes hand? A quirk exchange would be fun...
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@puffing-cinema said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
Is that Star and Stripes hand? A quirk exchange would be fun...
Oh. I didn't even realize that arm looks like hers. Interesting. But, that does make me wonder why Shiggy hasn't used her quirk? That's an instant Game Over for Deku if he did.
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@Nectar Shigaraki never had full control of Star's quirk- her last move was to use it to strip away his extra quirks granted by the AfO transfer. I'm pretty certain Shigaraki only has Decay (and Danger Sense) in addition to biologically enhanced strength and regeneration, which doesn't count as a quirk for the purposes of Eraserhead.
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I feel like this is going to be a multiple chapter event lol
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The idea of the Users destroying themselves to stop Shigaraki sounds interesting. Makes me wonder what state OFA will be in when all's said and done.
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I wonder if the fallen OFA users' powers/spirits will transfer for Deku's friends, giving them a second Quirk for the final, final, final, final battle?
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Apparently the original planned ending was for Bakugo to get OFA until one of the movies did it, so...
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@JulieYBM said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
I wonder if the fallen OFA users' powers/spirits will transfer for Deku's friends, giving them a second Quirk for the final, final, final, final battle?
Please no, either left Deku solely with Black Whip or have him losing all the other vestiges but have Decay transferred to him.
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@pariston_hill said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
@JulieYBM said in My Hero Academia II - A true Hero:
I wonder if the fallen OFA users' powers/spirits will transfer for Deku's friends, giving them a second Quirk for the final, final, final, final battle?
Please no, either left Deku solely with Black Whip or have him losing all the other vestiges but have Decay transferred to him.
Deku with decay would be pretty neat and could make some neat fanfiction.