I honestly do not see the point of a timeskip when Izuku went from 20% to 45% in a few months already. The whole point of a timeskip is to have characters become stronger without having to show it, something that just happened.
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I just noticed, even if they don’t recover the old man, Toga and a bag of Twice’s blood formerly known as Twice are right there.
I am not feeling the time skip yet, while this amount of death (and a little media fallout on the crimes of Hawks and Endeavor) is bound to send shockwaves, and maybe crumble society as it is, I don’t think that Horikoshi is going to go full “land of villains”, but I do feel like it is time for the governing body to fail catastrophically in how they deal with this crisis.
Like that now it is shown how heroes fail, the general population don’t see them as invencible heroes or paragons, but as the humans that they are, now the weight of their crimes (both real and imposed) will fall on them, and the government will try to force business as usual and overplay their control, just for the audience not feel sorry for them when they get Shiggy’d. And maybe then there is a time skip.
Remember that if hawks killed Jeanist, it was all for nothing, and Even if not, Twice can’t be his first victim.
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Baseless snark or explaining that is less than that because toshinori and deku had no quirks, and I wouldn’t count either the super strength of one for all or black whip as mastered.
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Izuku will probably activate Nana's Float Quirk and just barely control it to escape Shigaraki's dusting.
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Let's see:
1st: Shigaraki's Brother - Stockpile quirk (given), quirk transference - Nothing to master
2nd: Unknown Name - Unknown quirk - needs mastering
3rd: Unknown Name - Unknown quirk - needs mastering
4th:Unknown Name - Unknown quirk - needs mastering
5th: Daigoro - Black Whip - needs mastering
6th: Unknown Name - Unknown quirk - needs mastering
7th: Nana - Float - needs mastering
8th: Toshinori - quirkless
9th: Deku - quirklessSo given the stockpile resulted in super strength, there 7 quirks for Deku to master.
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All I know is, if All Might shows up I am going to be very upset.
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Rather than a timeskip, I think we're heading for the kids having to abandon Japan and continue their training/studies abroad. Maybe seeing how/if the rest of the world deals with their hero/villain problems differently can give some of the kids the character development they need to change how they do things in Japan. Or we can just get Deku training up in America, further following in the footsteps of All Might or something.
Just need sacrifice from some big names or even just the side-effects of not being finished to somehow stop Shiggy from expanding his doom-zone for the next few years.
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Rather than a timeskip, I think we're heading for the kids having to abandon Japan and continue their training/studies abroad. Maybe seeing how/if the rest of the world deals with their hero problems differently can give some of the kids the character development they need to change how they do things in Japan. Or we can just get Deku training up in America, further following in the footsteps of All Might or something.
Just need sacrifice from some big names or even just the side-effects of not being finished to somehow stop Shiggy from expanding his doom-zone for the next few years.
That seems unlikely. The league is still the minority and they simply do not have the means to immediately instill a complete reign of terror. It is more important than ever to have all hands on deck as to not let them get a strong foothold.
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I just noticed, even if they don’t recover the old man, Toga and a bag of Twice’s blood formerly known as Twice are right there.
Unless Toga is an expert at guessing measures, she's not gonna be able to do much with Twice's blood.
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I had figured Deku plus a couple others would go train in the US to tie in the characters from the movies and spinoffs since they are technically canon.
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This dramatic turn and widespread horrific chaos is giving me hope that some students aren't making it out of this.
(I would expect and settle for just one.)I don't want to seem like a cruel asshole for wanting some of our kids dead,
but at the same time we're losing pros here… the threat level is very real.
I want the stakes of the situation to hit the kids directly. In my eyes they NEED a casualty or two for this arc to 100% work.
Something to shock the rest of the kids to their very cores and light a fire under them like nothing else can.There's also the aspect of "Do it! Do what barely anyone else dares to do! Erase some of your plucky younguns! Be THAT daring shonen author!
You've been flirting with darker elements for a long long while, it's time to commit to the darkness and stick at least one knife into your main cast.
Even if you hesitate in harming class A there are more options in class B, so just do it!"I'm being very selfishly biased here, but at the same time I honestly think the feeling of dread would be fully sold to me if we didn't get all of the class back.
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That seems unlikely. The league is still the minority and they simply do not have the means to immediately instill a complete reign of terror. It is more important than ever to have all hands on deck as to not let them get a strong foothold.
I mean once you can dust a city and you dealing with a society similar to irl instead of classic superheroes havent you already won? He should be able to just "If I see any hero approach me or am attacked I'll just dust wathever city I'm in." He's basically a walking nuclear deterrent with a terrorist mindset.
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@MDL:
This dramatic turn and widespread horrific chaos is giving me hope that some students aren't making it out of this.
(I would expect and settle for just one.)I don't want to seem like a cruel asshole for wanting some of our kids dead,
but at the same time we're losing pros here… the threat level is very real.
I want the stakes of the situation to hit the kids directly. In my eyes they NEED a casualty or two for this arc to 100% work.
Something to shock the rest of the kids to their very cores and light a fire under them like nothing else can.There's also the aspect of "Do it! Do what barely anyone else dares to do! Erase some of your plucky younguns! Be THAT daring shonen author!
You've been flirting with darker elements for a long long while, it's time to commit to the darkness and stick at least one knife into your main cast.
Even if you hesitate in harming class A there are more options in class B, so just do it!"I'm being very selfishly biased here, but at the same time I honestly think the feeling of dread would be fully sold to me if we didn't get all of the class back.
How would you feel about Aizawa or Mic dying instead?
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I mean once you can dust a city and you dealing with a society similar to irl instead of classic superheroes havent you already won? He should be able to just "If I see any hero approach me or am attacked I'll just dust wathever city I'm in." He's basically a walking nuclear deterrent with a terrorist mindset.
Good point. Still, let us see what the limits on his powers are before we can declare that he could just destroy any city anytime.
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Rather than a timeskip, I think we're heading for the kids having to abandon Japan and continue their training/studies abroad. Maybe seeing how/if the rest of the world deals with their hero/villain problems differently can give some of the kids the character development they need to change how they do things in Japan. Or we can just get Deku training up in America, further following in the footsteps of All Might or something.
Just need sacrifice from some big names or even just the side-effects of not being finished to somehow stop Shiggy from expanding his doom-zone for the next few years.
That would be a great way to bring America's Captain Celebrity into the main series.
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There's also the aspect of "Do it! Do what barely anyone else dares to do! Erase some of your plucky younguns! Be THAT daring shonen author!
If the series was less successful he maybe could. But Naruto couldn't even get away with killing Choji of all people, who was never popular even after his single shining moment..
He can't kill any of the popular characters, not without a massive chunk of time dedicated to it. So Tsuya, IIda, Ochako, Kirishima, Tokoyami, Todoroki, Bakugo, Yaoyorzu, and obviously Deuko are all immortal without major story time to get a death scene. Jiro hasn't been a main but after she got that school concert arc and opening in the anime, she's invincible too.
And killing say, Tailman or Sugarman or Cellophane or Invisigirl , just isn't going to have any impact on the readers, any more than killing random adult heroes is doing now.
Killing Mineta would have the opposite effect, people would be happy.
So its not going to happen. Certainly not just as a byproduct.
Also, we really don't need more Hunter X Hunters with random body counts of named characters just because. That doesn't actually make the story any better or more interesting.
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Mount Lady grows to maximum size and chucks some of the kids to safety while she's left crumbling.
Fatgum Gum Gum Cannonballs some of them out while sacrificing himself.
Edgeshot starts dusting, but grabs some kids and strings himself out far enough and fast enough to outpace the process until they're far enough away.
That's all I could come up with.
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Also, we really don't need more Hunter X Hunters with random body counts of named characters just because.
huh? hxh doesn't have that. a better example would be chainsawman and it's great.
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I don´t think any of the kids will die, but if Hori does it right I wouldn´t mind. Kekkaishi is a great example, just one unexpected death helped to set the stakes a lot, but it´s not easy to pull out.
And I know is impossible, but Kirishima and Iida would be great heroic sacrifices, the first could die while saving someone from Machia and the second could sacrifice himself to save someone without thinking about it. Again, I like both characters, but those two I think would hurt the most while making sense because of their characters arcs.
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Let's see:
1st: Shigaraki's Brother - Stockpile quirk (given), quirk transference - Nothing to master
2nd: Unknown Name - Unknown quirk - needs mastering
3rd: Unknown Name - Unknown quirk - needs mastering
4th:Unknown Name - Unknown quirk - needs mastering
5th: Daigoro - Black Whip - needs mastering
6th: Unknown Name - Unknown quirk - needs mastering
7th: Nana - Float - needs mastering
8th: Toshinori - quirkless
9th: Deku - quirklessSo given the stockpile resulted in super strength, there 7 quirks for Deku to master.
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huh? hxh doesn't have that. a better example would be chainsawman and it's great.
It does, it has a habit of introducing new characters and killing them off in the same arc or bringing back old tertiary characters to kill. The Chimera arc had a huge body count of named character deaths. Also the characters that get killed in CSM are one-dimensional and received very little characterization. People need to stop thinking that a high bodycount means your story is good, the Marineford arc literally only had three named character deaths throughout the entire thing and still gets praised to high heavens.
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One for all counts as a quirk in need of mastering.
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What's to master ? It's only a transferring one( can be done by giving a hair of the owner to the successor) and for Deku to give it to someone else can only happen in epilogue.
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How would you feel about Aizawa or Mic dying instead?
I feel like they need to survive until the Kurogiri thing is resolved.
Also, both of them have likely been flagged as safe after Crust sacrificed himself to save them. I can't see Hori deliberately making that sacrifice meaningless.Also, we really don't need more Hunter X Hunters with random body counts of named characters just because.
That doesn't actually make the story any better or more interesting.I totally agree, especially since I don't think I was suggesting any of that.
(Or at least I didn't intend to.)I wouldn't want anyone dying for the sake of it either,
but I'm just saying that if Hori did dare to do something like that I'd be kinda happy that he went there.
This manga has always felt…. somewhat bold in this kinda thing. But without taking that final step.If it's a case of requiring substantial time dedicated to the death itself, then Tokoyami is a possible factor right now.
He charged in to save Hawks despite Fatgum telling him to stay back, and the last time we saw him he was being pursued by Dabi.
There's also a mentor/student bond going on between Hawks and Tokoyami.I know that things seem to be pointing towards "mentor dies in front of student, student takes it with him going forward",
but there might still be a slim possibility that Dabi's first major score will be a double kill. Not making any solid calls, just speculating.Mount Lady grows to maximum size and chucks some of the kids to safety while she's left crumbling.
Fatgum Gum Gum Cannonballs some of them out while sacrificing himself.
Edgeshot starts dusting, but grabs some kids and strings himself out far enough and fast enough to outpace the process until they're far enough away.
That's all I could come up with.
Woah, I could definitely get behind all of this.
Especially the Mount Lady one.She was first introduced as a fresh rookie on the scene, and she has a semi-friendly rivalry with Kamui Woods for public attention.
She was the kind of hero Stain hated, only seeming to care about the spotlight.
But then she (and Kamui) got involved in the serious Kamino operation and she showed her true heroic spirit (helping Deku's group escape by blocking a flying Compress with her face).It would definitely be an awesome final destination for her character if she spent her final moments saving others while crumbling.
The opposite attitude of when she intentionally and gleefully stole Kamui's thunder in chapter 1.@Kunt:
People need to stop thinking that a high bodycount means your story is good
I agree.
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What's to master ? It's only a transferring one( can be done by giving a hair of the owner to the successor) and for Deku to give it to someone else can only happen in epilogue.
It is on the name of the attacks, we are at “45%” the super strength. And you never know if the power inheritance has something else involved, like letting the original keep it, or to share it momentarily somehow.
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Are people still basing this off the horrid JB/Mangastream translations or do they legit don't know how to count? They're six quirks in the stockpile of OfA.Yeah, six new quirks and the stockpiled super strength, so that makes seven thing Deku needs to master in order to be at full power.
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@Kunt:
It does, it has a habit of introducing new characters and killing them off in the same arc or bringing back old tertiary characters to kill. The Chimera arc had a huge body count of named character deaths.
the characters that are killed are antagonists most of the time and that's completely normal for series that revolves around life or death battles look at dragon ball and naruto for example.
there were only 5 non villain character deaths in CA, 3 were extremely purposeful and important and the other 2 were to set up the mood for the arc witch is completely standard and not random at all.Also the characters that get killed in CSM are one-dimensional and received very little characterization..
no.
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I hope it's a Fire Emblem Three Houses thing
Time skip a few years and everyone comes back to 2A , continuing their "academia" but with the purpose of rebuilding the school and inspiring new hope in an otherwise villainous society.
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Also, we really don't need more Hunter X Hunters with random body counts of named characters just because. That doesn't actually make the story any better or more interesting.
Agreed.
For me, it's just an easy emotional out if a couple of students get dusted here. If some of these students are going to die, then let them at least earn it.
You come at the king, you best not miss.
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Sato seems like someone destined to die later down the line. I just have a feeling.
Also, remember Mineta complaining about this mission at the start of all this? I feel like these next few chapter will prove him right. I wonder if we'll get back to him later on in a meaningful way?
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Sugar Man dying would be a mercy at this point, who are we kidding.
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“I wish that the characters I don’t like die”, kill your favorites you cowards, end froppy, kirishima, bakugou
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“I wish that the characters I don’t like die”, kill your favorites you cowards, end froppy, kirishima, bakugou
, momo.Hori already did it for me, now I only wait for Shigi to do it upon thy
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Mineta dies.
Suddenly the Hell's Gate appears and spits Mineta out.
"They didn't want me there." Said Mineta.
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“I wish that the characters I don’t like die”, kill your favorites you cowards, end froppy, kirishima, bakugou
, momo.Hey, I'll kill off Bakugou! Can I have Deku x Todoroki in exchange, though? Yes? No?
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! > Which is why I'm hoping from the bottom of my heart that Toga goes ape shit for some revenge soon.
She got zealously mad over Magne's death,
so I want to see her cut loose over Twice's death and scare us with how much carnage she causes for the heroes.
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FUCKING YES
IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING
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BROO
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FUCKING YES
IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO
HOLY SHIT ON A BIKE I CAN'T BELIEVE IT
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I fear for her life, but go off you crazy lunatic! Get one in for Twice.
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@MDL:
! Compress did call her rampage a "suicide mission",
but I'm hopeful that his comment will actually serve as a reverse flag and she'll make it out.! Can I talk about the chapter summary? Read at our own risk:
[hide]Shiggy called Machia to bring the LoV to him. By the photo posted she had already shanked 6-7 low profile heroes. [/hide]
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! After watching season 4 of the anime, I feel like I remember a time when taking down even one pro hero was a big deal. Even back then the League needed to 2v1 guys like Snatch and Rock Lock. Now, Toga through rage and good tactics is taking out a bunch. With all the death in this arc, it really feels like things are shifting in the hero world.
! Also, I'm really hoping Endeavor makes it out of this. I had him pegged as a guy who'd get too injured to be a hero by the end of the series, and be forced to be a father or teacher. Possibly he'd be one of the guys who gets hit with the anti-quirk bullets, but it's a funny thing that they get destroyed in the same chapter Endeavor confronts a guy he probably can't win against. Endeavor feels like he has a lot left to do in this series, so I'm curious to see how this ends up. -
! After watching season 4 of the anime, I feel like I remember a time when taking down even one pro hero was a big deal. Even back then the League needed to 2v1 guys like Snatch and Rock Lock. Now, Toga through rage and good tactics is taking out a bunch. With all the death in this arc, it really feels like things are shifting in the hero world.
! Also, I'm really hoping Endeavor makes it out of this. I had him pegged as a guy who'd get too injured to be a hero by the end of the series, and be forced to be a father or teacher. Possibly he'd be one of the guys who gets hit with the anti-quirk bullets, but it's a funny thing that they get destroyed in the same chapter Endeavor confronts a guy he probably can't win against. Endeavor feels like he has a lot left to do in this series, so I'm curious to see how this ends up.! There was that hero who got knocked out by that small-bit gang Overhaul literally teared seconds later.
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! More quirk erasing bullets. Doc Ujiko in for the save. And know he can control when to Decay or not. Please don't nerf.
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X-Less is the true MVP. He saved us from the horror of the Overhaul arc, so no more mass-produced anti-Quirk bullets.
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Endavour may die.
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So Tsuyu is licking a child's entire body while saving him… I can tell this sort of stuff will come back to ruin her hero career.
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I liked how the awkwardness of being wrapped by her tongue was mentioned in the Class VS Class battles.
