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I think the idea of one month of fighting makes you the best breaks the logic of this world and that the power creeping started in the fight between class A and B. It makes the whole school and lifelong training be ridiculous. But that's my personal opinion.
Ch. 213 definitely marked a turning point for sure…
Where is this idea that fighting Gigantomachya made their quirks stronger even coming from? That might have increased their base stats but the reason Shigaraki can level cities now is because he overcame a mental blockade. Same deal with Twice. Toga just found out a new ability of her quirk. The others are the same.
And I guess there's also this new 'quirk evolution' concept, but that has nothing to do with Gigantomachya either.
So with a few exceptions, MHA generally alternates between "school arcs" and "serious/villain arcs." So we're probably getting another school arc next, but I'm not really sure what's left to cover. So far we've had:
-Class A vs. Class A (Prologue arc)
-Class A vs. the rest of the school (Sports Festival)
-Class A vs. Teachers (Mid-term arc [At least I think that's what it was])
-Class A vs. other schools (License exam)
-Mini-arc with Todoroki and Bakugo retaking their exam
-Culture festival arc with a low level minor villain
-Class A vs. Class B arc
The only ideas left that I can think of are a more high level Class A vs. Class A arc, or a more focused Class A vs. Other Schools arc. I guess there's finally moving onto Year 2, but I'm not really sure how you can turn that into an arc.
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An actual bet and conversation on the Chapter 905 thread, literally an hour before he got banned again.
With Shigaraki you can say it's both remembering his past and the level grinding. There's no way the League didn't improve fighting Gigantomachia. It's been shown the more the train your quirk the stronger it gets. I'd argue the reason Toga can use other people's quirks now is because she level grind.
So with a few exceptions, MHA generally alternates between "school arcs" and "serious/villain arcs." So we're probably getting another school arc next, but I'm not really sure what's left to cover. So far we've had:
-Class A vs. Class A (Prologue arc)
-Class A vs. the rest of the school (Sports Festival)
-Class A vs. Teachers (Mid-term arc [At least I think that's what it was])
-Class A vs. other schools (License exam)
-Mini-arc with Todoroki and Bakugo retaking their exam
-Culture festival arc with a low level minor villain
-Class A vs. Class B arcThe only ideas left that I can think of are a more high level Class A vs. Class A arc, or a more focused Class A vs. Other Schools arc. I guess there's finally moving onto Year 2, but I'm not really sure how you can turn that into an arc.
The VS Other Schools Arc could happen. Another arc giving a Class A student more focus is always welcomed. Never thought about until now but Deku needs a new hero to intern under and Gran Torino's probably still busy looking for Shigaraki.
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Never thought about until now but Deku needs a new hero to intern under and Gran Torino's probably still busy looking for Shigaraki.
Also Bakugo and Todoroki now can operate along with heroes. Bakugo never had a pro to work with for the internship. He can't work with Best Jeanist so he's going to have to go with someone new. Still hoping for Mirko. Todoroki is probably going back to Endeavor so he can train further with his fire. Deku might either get a hero to himself or be teamed up with a classmate.
With Shigaraki you can say it's both remembering his past and the level grinding. There's no way the League didn't improve fighting Gigantomachia. It's been shown the more the train your quirk the stronger it gets. I'd argue the reason Toga can use other people's quirks now is because she level grind.
^ Basically what I've been getting at.
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! Yeah, everything about Hawks is rushed af. Didn't really expect to see him there. It's weird. Can't wait to see if he's actually killed BJ.
Yeeeeees
! He still has the face hand so I can call him Facepalm.
! That new name is worse than either of the two previous ones. I'm just going to call them the Paranormals. I like the intent to rebrand themselves outside of being criminals though.
! Toga with an eyepatch, oh my god.
I love it! Glad she pulled through.
! The artwork was pretty damn cool for those spreads.
Yeeeeees
! He still has the face hand so I can call him Facepalm.
! To be honest, I dig the new Shigaraki with one facepalm. Multiple hands looked creepy, but it really didn't come acrossed as forceful and intimidating.
One facepalm keeps the integrity of the character design, but gives Shigaraki more presence. On another note, I remain substantially
disappointed that there was no big double spread of Gigantomachia swearing fealty to Shigaraki. The initial goal of the arc for villains was to tame
him, but no there was no substantial set piece for that purpose, and I can't help but feel disappointed.
! So, Geten is female? It's hard to tell either way. I hope it's a she.
! Yeah, that new name doesn't roll off the tongue but its hard to top the cheesiness of League of Villains. Like Shiggy said it doesn't matter. I like Twice remembering Toga Clone's sacrifice and a know several people over the net will be happy he didn't just "get over" his trauma. Bonus to points to him sliding up onstage. That's my Twice.
! Shigaraki rocking a suit! But the sneakers aren't read, come on Shiggy. Huge points to Skeptic for manipulating what really happened while still showing citizens using quirks in a positive light.
! Is that really Best Jeanist? I'm going to say no only because there's a big enough time jump between Hawks pulling out his sword and him carrying the bag with public knowledge Best Jeanist went missing. BJ never showed his face, it's possible it can be a fake and the real Jeanist is hiding after Hawks explained his mission.
! Good point, now I think it's a fake too.
That new name… ew
! They really went for sushi. Attaboy Hori.
! I was honestly surprised the chapter didn't swing back to the kids lol. Hopefully next chapter? As intriguing as this is to me, being able to see the villains grow and plan start to finish, I miss the kids.
! With the Hawks clifhanger I'm not certain.
! Cool chapter, even though I was hoping to see the kids again. Hopefully next chapter they will be back.
! It´s clear that the top members of the MLA aren´t happy with this, but they are following Re-Destro´s will. About the baldie, I am digging the chair, but seeing him being a bootlicker is a heavy contrast with the huge monster that pushed Shigaraki to the limit, I guess that it may be because of all that stress from being the leader being gone, but it´s still sad. That said, in the spread with Shiggy and the new top members, we only see his shadowed face instead of a happy one, so maybe he has something more in mind that hasn´t told Shigaraki.
! About the league members, it´s nice to see that Twice´s trauma didn´t get magically healed, so he can only use sad man´s parade with a really clear goal on mind. And I feel bad for Spinner, the poor guy is so under-qualified for this job.
! Lastly, what´s is stopping Hawks from selling them off right now? A lot of them may get away, but at the very least the police could take away the influence they have and seize their companies.
^ My guess it's the…
! High-End Nomu. He still doesn't know who's responsible for them, how many they are, and where they are. That's that last piece of the puzzle he was hinting at finding.
Seriously, can we go back to the heroes now?
I really like(d) this villain arc. It gave us an insight into how the antagonists of our story are becoming the threat that they need to be. This chapter kind of soured that for me.
Do not get me wrong, I see where it is important from the perspective of the script to create a force that must be overcome, but it really makes the hero level up arcs somewhat more pathetic in comparison. When our protagonists level up they usually lost something as part of it. Permanent injuries, loss of the strongest hero, and loss of powers of friends have all occurred. For our antagonists, a few did have life altering injuries occur, but they lost no one in this particular arc, got stronger, gained money, gained influence, gained a scientific genius, gained a seemingly unstoppable juggernaut, and gained a ridiculously loyal army. Seems that for them the pay off was much greater for the pain they endured.
There in lied the rub. To rationalize the massive pay off in my head, I had to step back from the characters and say this was done for the story. It kinda broke me out of the enjoyment.
I don't mean this in a personal way, but the more that people ask for the heroes to come back… the more I want another villain chapter XD
But hey, you probably aren't gonna be waiting much longer. The main conflict was settled, it's just wrap up now.
I'm happy that Hori isn't hurriedly skipping past the aftermath. He's going at a natural pace and the audience should be patient 
I've just got a thought about why Horikoshi might have offed Curious.
You know how, in One Piece and a lot of series, female villains always have a bigger tendency to turn good, be spared, etc?
Considering the heavy use and playing with tropes this arc had, maybe he decided to do the opposite and have the female villain die gruesomely while all the others join the 'protagonist'.
Maybe he didn't want another character that could explode stuff lol.
Vigilantes is out on Shonen Jump app. Such a wholesome arc lol.
So they are training with Midnight's boss. I wonder what type of figure would let a 17-18 yo run on her birthday suit and a coat as a costume.
Link to Vigilantes 60
We really need names for all the teacher and students. It's driving me nuts. I wanna know what that hairball kid can do.
Midnight's costume is ridiculous. I think we've seen it before but I don't remember it being so bad. I like Mic's old costume. It reminds me of Jiro. Just a cute chapter overall. Makes me sad knowing something will go down with Shirakumo eventually.
We saw that in a extra where Midnight and Mt. Lady where being interview and started to have a cat-fight to Mineta's delight. Also in volume 7 there's the prototype for Midnight.
! Truly, with Re-Destro's money and Shigaraki's wellspring of evil, Phil Lesh and Friends will be unstoppable.
! 1-A will need to train hard to beat Shigaraki and the Palestinian Liberation Front.
Off track a bit because I dont want to quote everyone that said that the villains level up faster because they grind harder or because "training grounds" and fighting the same dude for days = actual justifiable power scaling.
That confused the shit out of me for a second.
Wow. Why have an Academy to train and develop your quirk? Why is there a need for the foundation of this series in the first place?
What a ingenious method of training, screw the curriculum because apparently the heroes are all trash and retarded because they couldn't figure out the secret to mastering their quirk is to repeatedly grind them.
Is this for real.
No seriously.
"But the Academy is for them to control their quirk, not necessary to strengthen"
Uh yeah no, that doesn't fly when you look at the shit they put their students through.
So I guess the most recognized and elite school of heroes should start taking lessons and inspiration from the villains.
Eh why bother treating each quirk uniquely and build lessons around them when you can just traumatize them and pray they win the bullshit lottery.
The only villain that actually got a power up was Toga, though.
Shigaraki's quirk was originally like this (spreading a wave of destruction from a starting point), but he was consciously reigning it back along with the memories of when he awakened his quirk.
What one could argue is that his quirk was too powerful to being with instead of starting weak and growing through training, but he would not be the first case (see Todoroki or Eri). There are quirks that start small and need to grow powerful through training, while others seem to start powerful and need to be refined and mastered through training, it depends on the quirk nature.
Rather stay with the villians so much entertaining than the bland kids.
It was established that new generations are stronger than old ones, so the likes of Endeavor will be surpassed in the long run.
Hell, you could argue Shouto is close to surpassing Endeavor, if not already did so. He just doesn't have the same experience, but in raw power, they're comparable.
Then you have Inasa (whirlwind), Shindo (earthquakes), Tamaki and Nejire of the Big 3… I would argue Heroes had it stacked for them for quite a time.
And, Shigaraki and Gigantomachia aside, none of the villains of the LoV are that horribly strong. The High End threat is still not a reality since they haven't finished development. Things are not that bleak yet.
...
LoV walked over the MLA?
Sure surpassing the current heroes, who have 10 plus year of experience, will happen in the long run but it wont or shouldnt before these kids are in their 20s. So why are we following them at 15?
Close to passing Endeavor?! The students couldn't handle the teachers when the teachers weren't even trying to harm them.
So the story isn't hero academia, it's people who have a strong quirk and is their disposition more good or evil.
Shiggy basically beat the entire MLA solo.
Sure surpassing the current heroes, who have 10 plus year of experience, will happen in the long run but it wont or shouldnt before these kids are in their 20s. So why are we following them at 15?
Close to passing Endeavor?! The students couldn't handle the teachers when the teachers weren't even trying to harm them.
So the story isn't hero academia, it's people who have a strong quirk and is their disposition more good or evil.
Shiggy basically beat the entire MLA solo.
Errm… isn't this just the same thing that every shonen manga ever? Luffy is gonna be pirate king before he hits 20 when people with decades of experience haven't been able to, just to give one of hundreds possible examples. That's the thing about stuff aimed at teens, teens always end up doing everything.
! I wasn't 100% in the know when it comes to Hawks, but it would appear that he's a double double agent when it comes to his actions. Also Dabi seems to be in the know in some capacity and working with him (forgive my ignorance) so things are slowly clicking in place for me. I hope Best Jeanist is alive and Hawks filled him in. It would make sense for him to go off the radar to not rise suspicion for Hawks operations. Though the body in the bag doesn't sit well with me in the slightest since it would mean either he DID kill Best Jeanist, or he killed a random person and played it up. Overall this is gonna be a huge stain on his record as a hero. Its hard to say where this all will lead, but whatever hawks was working towards, he went in too deep.
! As for shiggy and the gang, besides himself, everyone seemed to only unlock their potential in the heat of the moment. So there's still room for progression.
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Midnight's old costume makes me think of nudist beach folks from Kill La Kill.
Errm… isn't this just the same thing that every shonen manga ever? Luffy is gonna be pirate king before he hits 20 when people with decades of experience haven't been able to, just to give one of hundreds possible examples. That's the thing about stuff aimed at teens, teens always end up doing everything.
First, big difference between 15/16 and 20. Second, Luffy got destroyed by Kaido and laughed at by Big Mom. I highly doubt he is going to be Kaido alone.
In fact I think OP says the opposite because most strong people are a decent amount older than Luffy, Zoro, Sanji.
Well the other thing is Horikoshi has also had characters mention how the next generations are getting stronger quirks. So in MHA case younger folks with more complex quirks would start to overpower the older generations. So it's a bit different in other shonen where the main group of teens is becoming stronger than the previous top dogs through just working hard or lucky lineage. Shouto bred to be stronger. Mutant Eri and Shiggy. Weirdo anomaly stockpile quirk OFA. Lucky genetic combo Blasty. Whatever the hell Tokoyami is lol.
Whatever the hell Tokoyami is lol.
Well the other thing is Horikoshi has also had characters mention how the next generations are getting stronger quirks. So in MHA case younger folks with more complex quirks would start to overpower the older generations. So it's a bit different in other shonen where the main group of teens is becoming stronger than the previous top dogs through just working hard or lucky lineage. Shouto bred to be stronger. Mutant Eri and Shiggy. Weirdo anomaly stockpile quirk OFA. Lucky genetic combo Blasty. Whatever the hell Tokoyami is lol.
Which feels silly because just give it 2 more years and a new group of 15 year olds will show up and pass the class A and B kids, minus deku, and will stop shiggys group.
To me quirks getting stronger only seems relevant on a macro societal level. Who wants to read a super hero comic about macro level political and societal changes and how they impact you life and freedoms? That sounds like a boring PHD dissertation not a fun superhero comic.
First, big difference between 15/16 and 20. Second, Luffy got destroyed by Kaido and laughed at by Big Mom. I highly doubt he is going to be Kaido alone.
In fact I think OP says the opposite because most strong people are a decent amount older than Luffy, Zoro, Sanji.
Yeah, there's a big difference between 15/16 and 20: in MHA, a 15yo hero student is comparatively much older than a 20yo pirate in OP.
Most top heroes in MHA are on their 20's~30's (40's at most) while the strongest people in OP are always at least on their 50's or bordering it.
And let's not forget 15 is Deku's age at the start of the manga. The hero course takes 3 years, so he'll be at least 18 when he graduates (not to mention it might take even longer for him to become the #1 Hero).
But who cares if it happens at 15 or 19? How are 4 years of any relevance to the point? Also, what Luffy beating Kaido by himself or not has to do with anything!? We are aiming at the conclusion of the story, not the current arcs.
The point is: in shonen in general, the protagonist will reach the peak of their world at a much younger age than the top contenders (and with a lot less experience).
Luffy is bound to become Pirate King at 19~20 with less than 3 years of piracy while even the most competent and powerful pirates ever didn't got there after decades of effort.
Naruto managed to surpass the whole ninja world by 15 and only 3 years as a ninja even though the most talented ninjas had been doing it since they were like 7 years old.
Ichigo became the strongest Shinigami at 17 and with like 1 year as a shinigami (since the 2 years of timeskip he didn't had his powers) while the other Shinigami literally trained for centuries, sometimes millennia.
That's the rule in battle shonen. The actual exceptions are those that understand the weight of years of experience as something you can't beat by sheer will and "power of youth".
If anything, out of all those manga MHA is the one that sets the best scenario for a new hero to already find a spot at the top. After all, in MHA being a hero is a regular job, simply the result of doing a course, studying and getting a degree: and with just like any other profession, someone can already excel at it in their early years as a pro and be at the top of their field among others who been at it for many years (see Hawks. Or Mirio, who wasn't even a pro yet and was already regarded as the most likely to take the #1 after All Might instead of any already established professional).
! Its hard to say where this all will lead, but whatever hawks was working towards, he went in too deep.
! It's funny that you mention Hawks being "in too deep",
because I have a sinking feeling that he's going to get himself killed gangster style while prying for this last piece of info.
! I just feel like there's an ominous air around the way he was portrayed at the end.
Like his hours are numbered.
! am I the only one who thinks Jeanist made a thread clone of himself like Doflamingo does? One that can't animate itself but at the very least can act as a decoy dead body?
! am I the only one who thinks Jeanist made a thread clone of himself like Doflamingo does? One that can't animate itself but at the very least can act as a decoy dead body?
! That could be possible but it would need higher up co-op to do, and I don't think that Hawks has that level of clearance.
@MDL:
I don't mean this in a personal way, but the more that people ask for the heroes to come back… the more I want another villain chapter XD
But hey, you probably aren't gonna be waiting much longer. The main conflict was settled, it's just wrap up now.
I'm happy that Hori isn't hurriedly skipping past the aftermath. He's going at a natural pace and the audience should be patient
It's good to thoroughly develop your villains, it's just been going on too long now. But like you said, we should be getting back soon.
Personally I wanna see more of Hawks than the kids
Quick FYI, Viz's translation is going with the name "Paranormal Liberation Front" for combination LoV/MLA team up.
I was kinda hoping the official name would be better. I also didn't notice Giran in the audience the first time. That's gotta be awkward for him.
Is there anyone scanlating the team up spinoff? There was that one chapter a couple weeks ago. But I wasn't sure if that was monthly or not. Or if maybe it's on a different site than dex.
Is there anyone scanlating the team up spinoff? There was that one chapter a couple weeks ago. But I wasn't sure if that was monthly or not. Or if maybe it's on a different site than dex.
It's every two months. I don't think anyone is scanlating it, since it's published in a minor magazine with no digital release.
