Volume 89 Predictions/Discussion

Long John Silvers Rayleigh

Thats pretty bunk. The entire climax was very clearly framed as Luffy running out of energy, and needing the support of Gatz and all the others to make it through. Luffy was about to pass out when Gatz reached him, he could barely even stand.
And on the flip side, saying that "Luffy would've won either way" just makes the effort of Gatz and everyone else to delay Doflamingo seem completely pointless.

Theres a lot of questionable things regarding the handling of Haki, but putting it on a timer takes the cake.

So what Oda is saying, is Caesar is totally joining the crew, right?

Seriously, while I appreciate Oda pointing out the (extremely) obvious here, it also throws the Straw Hat behavior in the Whole Cake ark in even worse light. Because while Nami apparently think Caesar is rotten to the core, with explicit backup from the author…that sure didn't make her raise any objections to using Caesars horrible weaponry to kill Big Mom. Nobody seemed to have any problem with that.

The translation was done by another person and it said
Q: I read the manga and watched the anime and noticed that after Luffy uses Gear 4, he not only can’t use Haki for 10 minutes but it also carries the tradeoff (risk) of being so fatigued that he can’t move. However, in Ch 885 he is moving totally normally right? Why isn't that tradeoff there anymore? P.N. BUSHI
Oda: The tradeoff of not being able to move that you’re referring to never existed in the first place. If he wanted to move but couldn’t use Haki during that time, he could still run from place to place to hide. In Dressrosa, after using Gear 4, he coincidentally ran into his allies and supporters so he could preserve his energy while they carried him to the next fight. If those people weren’t there then Luffy would just have to do his best!

This translation especially the last one makes far more sense as to how oda responds as he's stated pretty early on he never likes to comment on who would win in a fight between two peopl.

But I agree with you the standard growth of him leading him to move around more made enough sense of its own. Maybe doffy would beaten him up a bit more and he'd still win but the damage would be a lot worse. I mean we saw luffy take a ton of attacks from katakuri anyways

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@Long:

The translation was done by another person and it said
Q: I read the manga and watched the anime and noticed that after Luffy uses Gear 4, he not only can’t use Haki for 10 minutes but it also carries the tradeoff (risk) of being so fatigued that he can’t move. However, in Ch 885 he is moving totally normally right? Why isn't that tradeoff there anymore? P.N. BUSHI
Oda: The tradeoff of not being able to move that you’re referring to never existed in the first place. If he wanted to move but couldn’t use Haki during that time, he could still run from place to place to hide. In Dressrosa, after using Gear 4, he coincidentally ran into his allies and supporters so he could preserve his energy while they carried him to the next fight. If those people weren’t there then Luffy would just have to do his best!

This translation especially the last one makes far more sense as to how oda responds as he's stated pretty early on he never likes to comment on who would win in a fight between two peopl.

But I agree with you the standard growth of him leading him to move around more made enough sense of its own. Maybe doffy would beaten him up a bit more and he'd still win but the damage would be a lot worse. I mean we saw luffy take a ton of attacks from katakuri anyways

I didn't even bother looking at the original, but now that you pointed out, yeah, the second translation is way more accurate. The original: 頼る人がいなきゃ頑張ります！

EDIT: The Nami bit apparently only says "Nami is only gentle with women and children" (ナミは女子や子供だけは優しいので). Which is not that different, but seems way less, say, suggestive.

King Cannon

@Daz:

So what Oda is saying, is Caesar is totally joining the crew, right?

Seriously, while I appreciate Oda pointing out the (extremely) obvious here, it also throws the Straw Hat behavior in the Whole Cake ark in even worse light. Because while Nami apparently think Caesar is rotten to the core, with explicit backup from the author…that sure didn't make her raise any objections to using Caesars horrible weaponry to kill Big Mom. Nobody seemed to have any problem with that.

What other choice did they have?

Without Bege, they wouldn't have been able to do anything, and Bege wanted to kill her.

There were lives at stake here. I'm sure Luffy would let an enemy die if it meant saving a friend of his.

Game And Guy

i want daddy luffy

ScotchInformer

EMUNOPLA

The official website of One Piece Has announced new birthdays for few Characters based on SBS#89 such as Jack and Stussy :

https://one-piece.com/news/detail/20180604_7337

Kaido King of the Beasts

@EMUNOPLA:

The official website of One Piece Has announced new birthdays for few Characters based on SBS#89 such as Jack and Stussy :

https://one-piece.com/news/detail/20180604_7337

Imagine being lucky enough to have bounty hunter bros whose birthdays are right by yours. Three-day party!

Captain M

Full cover scan from a Japanese blog:

Wintermute

@Kaido:

Imagine being lucky enough to have bounty hunter bros whose birthdays are right by yours. Three-day party!

Or, without knowing it for 20 years, share the same birthday with Yosaku. I'm happy and incredible sad at the same time now -__-

maxterdexter

Someone gave my birthday to Miss Buckings. My Bucking luck.

Chrior

Does anyone else find the colours of this cover a bit… duller than usual? OP colours are normally very lively and bold, but this one feels really light in terms of tones, I don't know how to explain any better.

theackwardstation

Yes, it looks like Oda used an eraser on top of the painting.

DemonX

@Daz:

Thats pretty bunk. The entire climax was very clearly framed as Luffy running out of energy, and needing the support of Gatz and all the others to make it through. Luffy was about to pass out when Gatz reached him, he could barely even stand.
And on the flip side, saying that "Luffy would've won either way" just makes the effort of Gatz and everyone else to delay Doflamingo seem completely pointless.

Theres a lot of questionable things regarding the handling of Haki, but putting it on a timer takes the cake.

Things like this make me lose faith in Oda sometimes. This is just…bad.

Hisoga

@DemonX:

Things like this make me lose faith in Oda sometimes. This is just…bad.

what? isn't that Luffy literally said "He can't use Haki for 10 minutes and still can run" to Gatz when he asked for help to stall Doffy in chapter 786?
so, what Oda said in this SBS will not make the effort of Gatz and everyone else to delay Doflamingo pointless. Luffy still can stall for time even without Gatz and Dressrossa's peoples.:wassat:

KageKageKing

Luffy had to outrun Cracker and Katakuri somehow.

Hisoga

@KageKageKing:

Luffy had to outrun Cracker and Katakuri somehow.

is there problem any problem with that?:wassat:

redon

Some changes from Shonen Jump version to One Piece Volume 79, thanks to @takachanOP.

https://twitter.com/takachanOP/status/1003979204222840832
https://twitter.com/takachanOP/status/1003981356492152834
https://twitter.com/takachanOP/status/1003981405137727488

- Chapter 891: Charlotte Flampe is 36st daugther

- Chapter 891: Katakuri's wounds in his face

- Chapter 896: Draw is out of cover frame.

- Chapter 896: "Poro" onomatopoeia added.

- Chapter 896: Katakuri's wound in torso.

- Chapter 898: Tamago's eggshell.

- Chapter 898: Sanji's eyebrow.

Kaido King of the Beasts

Luffy may have been able to run away and come back on his own, but without the people's help, he wouldn't have been able to return to his fight against Doflamingo before the Birdcage killed everyone. Which is what the majority of that stretch of chapters focused on.

Hisoga

@Kaido:

Luffy may have been able to run away and come back on his own, but without the people's help, he wouldn't have been able to return to his fight against Doflamingo before the Birdcage killed everyone. Which is what the majority of that stretch of chapters focused on.

Actually that is another issue and not the focus of my post. But since you mention it, I will try my best to explain my point of view.
Please bare with my English.

At least from what I understand some fans complain about Oda statement regarding Luffy actually can win against Doffy even without people support make that whole scene with Gatz and the peoples pointless and another complaint is how Oda comment is inconsistent with Luffy condition in that scene where he seem so weak and unable to move because he's out of haki. and this is also what the fan's letter question all about. And I think, this is also what some fans think too until Katakuri vs Luffy where Luffy still can run away no problem after using G4. Its looks like there is inconsistency on the after effect of using g4.

I don't know what Oda thought process is, but I think maybe he got many fans question regarding this matter, fans thought that Oda made a mistake but Oda disagree. and he did thought it through from the very beginning. and I agree with Oda because of what Luffy said to Gatz - "He still can run away from Doffy to stall for time until his haki returned". If Oda didn't insertthat in that scene, I'll be joining all the fans that feel angry and disappointed at Oda too.

My point of view is that, when Luffy forgot and use all of his haki, first, Oda already set that unable to use haki or haki depleted doen't mean the user will totally unable to move or too weak to move. So this is what we saw in vs Katakuri scene. in fact iirc Luffy did stopping his G4 mode earlier unlike during his fight with Doffy so that his body condition will not as worse as in vs Doffy where he overuse his haki. I don't know, most all of the complaint that I saw, its more like fans forgot that Luffy said he still can run but if Gatz and the gang wanted to help, thats even better. didn't Luffy even took the time to sleep iirc?

secondly, how is Luffy can win against Doffy invalidate what Gatz and the gang were doing? Their helps and sacrifices will still be as important to their country and its citizens. It doesn't matter whether Luffy can win with or without their help. and at that time, I think Oda knows that there were 2 way for the story to go. Luffy win alone (thats why Oda put the Luffy "I still can run") and another way is Gatz and the people help Luffy to stall for time. And I am glad Oda choose the latter. Its make much more sense for the people to come together to stop Doffy after what he did to them. Yes, I too didn't like the whole stalling for time, another chasing scene in the arc that full of chasing scenes, and its also a rip off of a far better countdown scene from Davy Back Fight arc, but at least its still far better than Luffy hiding and running around to stall for time.

kouch_lee

The main problem I see with that is that Luffy was so destroyed after using G4 against Doffy he couldn't even keep his arms straight.

If anything, Oda could've explained that this state he was in was because of ALL the accumulated exhaustion and damage he took till that point during the fight, and not because "10 minute haki break, I can still perfectly run, as you can see". Hmmm, no, no you can't, you can't even fully open your eyes.

theackwardstation

People, One Piece overly is dramatic and visual… why the confusion now?

Since Luffy was obviously extremely exhausted after his haki was completely consumed in the fight against Doflamingo (not to mention all the damage), Oda made sure to show it to you through all those dramatic visual elements... it's important in order for you to feel it. Now that you know the pain, Oda clarified that Luffy could find the strength to run if he needed to in that very same scene. So that's it. No mistery.

Just to remember, there was a point in the fight against Lucci that Luffy couldn't even move anymore, but then he got up for the last round.

andre

I think I can understand the point of view of Oda and how he was trying to portray Luffy through my experience as an athlete. There have been so many times where I had to stay in basketball games running on pure fumes, but still found a way to do so while other times, at about the same level of pure exhaustion I've basically collapsed on the bench, thankful that someone else could take my place, at least for a few minutes. It's entirely plausible to me that at least, Luffy could have kept going in some capacity, even if he wasn't truly feeling it, based on pure adrenaline and willpower. And we had seen Luffy more exhausted in a fight than he was against Doffy after the first burst of G4 before, when he fought Lucci and Moria. I think that second burst of G4 is the difference between the still lucid Luffy of that period and the sleep for 3 days Luffy.

Dahaka. 0

@Captain:

Full cover scan from a Japanese blog:
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/guran2016_ms06/imgs/8/c/8c210dbd.jpg

I have a request - can someone translate the comment on the left? The one with saluting man. I've seen some people giving this volume 1 star on amazon while talking only about his message. I'm curious what is says and what's the historical context.

Shobu Yoruichi

@SBS:

About Gear 4 time limits and Dolfamingo in Dressrosa :
Q: After reading the manga and seeing the anime, I wonder why Luffy was unable to do anything for 10 minutes after Gear 4, but then moved around without a problem against Katakuri. Is this a plothole?
Oda: There is no limit. As long as you want to move, even if you were not able to use Haki, you could run away or fight anyway, right? In Dressrosa Luffy had help after using gear 4, so he relied on that help and saved his strength to prepare to take out Doflamingo once and for all. If he had no one to rely on, he would have still succeeded all on his own.

Luffy using willpower to overcome Crocodile's Scorpion's poison at Alubarna
Luffy failing at the use of willpower to overcome Magellan's poison at Impel Down
[…]
Wounded Luffy fighting 8 hours against Katakuri, after only resting 3 hours from a 11 hours battle with Cracker, thanks to his willpower at Mirror World.
Luffy asking for a blood transfusion from Jinbe after Hodi's fight at Fishman Island
[…]
Luffy asking Noradrenalin hormones to Iva to overcome his tiredness at Marineford
Luffy letting himself rest on the back of Guts for 10(?) minutes to regain Haki to keep going against Doflaming at Dressrosa… and Oda says that he didn't need it.

Oda, please, stop... without consistency, it doesn't matter if you want to clear the fails you do.

Captain M

@Dahaka.:

I have a request - can someone translate the comment on the left? The one with saluting man. I've seen some people giving this volume 1 star on amazon while talking only about his message. I'm curious what is says and what's the historical context.

I'm no translator, but I'm seeing posted that it's "When you eat from a plate and something remains uneaten, I came up with a name for this: Sergeant Yokoi. For example: 'Sergeant Yokoi is left on a plate! Somebody finish the war!' Kids who don't understand, look it up."

From a quick google, Yokoi was a Japanese soldier who kept "fighting" after Japan surrendered at the end of World War 2, basically by hiding himself and a few mates out on an island for nearly 30 years. Seems pretty funny to me.

Now I know that people in any country will get touchy if you make a joke about soldiers, particularly real ones, but given who Yokoi was - a relic of Imperialism and a terribly misguided extreme of the old 'death before surrender' mentality - I get the feeling that the kind of people who'd get mad about a Yokoi joke are not the kind of people you'd want to associate with. Bombing a comic with bad reviews for having a giggle about a guy like that seems the kind of thing a pro-Imperialist equivilent of the alt-right might do, right?

Ah, I don't know. Take my analysis with a huge grain of salt because I'm making a lot of guesses. There are people on this forum far more qualified to talk on Japanese culture and politics than I am, and I'd love to see any of them comment on this.

sandman

Today Shonen Jump official website has made an announcement about Oda's author comment regarding Yokoi.

It says both Oda and editors should have been more cautious about those statements.

source:
https://www.shonenjump.com/j/2018/06/14/20180614_oshirase001.html
Some 5ch people are angry at Oda's author comment…
http://matsuri.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/wcomic/1528951240/933

Kfunk

Netouyo can't take a joke, lol.

Shobu Yoruichi

@Captain:

I'm no translator, but I'm seeing posted that it's "When you eat from a plate and something remains uneaten, I came up with a name for this: Sergeant Yokoi. For example: 'Sergeant Yokoi is left on a plate! Somebody finish the war!' Kids who don't understand, look it up."

From a quick google, Yokoi was a Japanese soldier who kept "fighting" after Japan surrendered at the end of World War 2, basically by hiding himself and a few mates out on an island for nearly 30 years. Seems pretty funny to me.

Now I know that people in any country will get touchy if you make a joke about soldiers, particularly real ones, but given who Yokoi was - a relic of Imperialism and a terribly misguided extreme of the old 'death before surrender' mentality - I get the feeling that the kind of people who'd get mad about a Yokoi joke are not the kind of people you'd want to associate with. Bombing a comic with bad reviews for having a giggle about a guy like that seems the kind of thing a pro-Imperialist equivilent of the alt-right might do, right?

Ah, I don't know. Take my analysis with a huge grain of salt because I'm making a lot of guesses. There are people on this forum far more qualified to talk on Japanese culture and politics than I am, and I'd love to see any of them comment on this.

Now i understand why Oda doesn't likes Sorachi… and didn't helped Watsuki with his problem unlike with Shima's one, 'cause they worked with soldiers to earn money.

Shame, shame on this guys, Oda must think.

Laffitte Doflamingo

Do Japanese also give a shit about political correctness as people here in the US do? :blink:

Captain M

@Shobu:

Now i understand why Oda doesn't likes Sorachi… and didn't helped Watsuki with his problem unlike with Shima's one, 'cause they worked with soldiers to earn money.

Shame, shame on this guys, Oda must think.

Uh, could I get a refresher on Oda and Sorachi and Oda and Watsuki, because I have no idea what interactions you're talking about.

@Laffitte:

Do Japanese also give a shit about political correctness as people here in the US do? :blink:

lmao at people making this out to be some lefty 'political correctness gone mad' kinda deal when it's actually more along the lines of America's right being suspiciously touchy about how the Confederates are depicted and remembered despite the horrible things they fought for. The outcry is not coming from the kind of person who would go for any traditional sense of political correctness.

redon

ONE PIECE VOLUME 89 DIGITAL RAW

https://www97.zippyshare.com/v/nWG4GdkO/file.html

Captain M

So they didn't even get Oda to do a new comment for the digital version of vol 89, they just cut the author comment entirely. Safe guess all future reprints of the physical book will be the same, and Shueisha will probably tell Viz not to use the comment in their version as well. We're really just pretending it never happened, huh? A shame.

Monkey King

@andre:

I think I can understand the point of view of Oda and how he was trying to portray Luffy through my experience as an athlete. There have been so many times where I had to stay in basketball games running on pure fumes, but still found a way to do so while other times, at about the same level of pure exhaustion I've basically collapsed on the bench, thankful that someone else could take my place, at least for a few minutes. It's entirely plausible to me that at least, Luffy could have kept going in some capacity, even if he wasn't truly feeling it, based on pure adrenaline and willpower. And we had seen Luffy more exhausted in a fight than he was against Doffy after the first burst of G4 before, when he fought Lucci and Moria. I think that second burst of G4 is the difference between the still lucid Luffy of that period and the sleep for 3 days Luffy.

Yeah the human body is weird.
I'm a regular victim of insomnia, and work with all sorts of age groups of kids. So yeah I'll go into work on little sleep and have to deal with 20+ crazy kids/teens, and somehow get through just fine.
The day will suck harder if it's boring well behaved kids (or high schoolers who mostly ignore you). I'll be struggling to keep up.
But when it's a crazy day with elementary and middle school kids? In spite of running on fumes and usually little to no breakfast, I power through just fine if not well.

No its not healthy on me, but the body has ways of finding the energy when it needs to.
Those little tykes don't realize I tend to actually appreciate them misbehaving and keeping me busy lol.

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@Captain:

I'm no translator, but I'm seeing posted that it's "When you eat from a plate and something remains uneaten, I came up with a name for this: Sergeant Yokoi. For example: 'Sergeant Yokoi is left on a plate! Somebody finish the war!' Kids who don't understand, look it up."

From a quick google, Yokoi was a Japanese soldier who kept "fighting" after Japan surrendered at the end of World War 2, basically by hiding himself and a few mates out on an island for nearly 30 years. Seems pretty funny to me.

Now I know that people in any country will get touchy if you make a joke about soldiers, particularly real ones, but given who Yokoi was - a relic of Imperialism and a terribly misguided extreme of the old 'death before surrender' mentality - I get the feeling that the kind of people who'd get mad about a Yokoi joke are not the kind of people you'd want to associate with. Bombing a comic with bad reviews for having a giggle about a guy like that seems the kind of thing a pro-Imperialist equivilent of the alt-right might do, right?

Ah, I don't know. Take my analysis with a huge grain of salt because I'm making a lot of guesses. There are people on this forum far more qualified to talk on Japanese culture and politics than I am, and I'd love to see any of them comment on this.

This post is legit, can't see anything wrong you said here about the implications of people review bombing Oda for that.

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@Laffitte:

Do Japanese also give a shit about political correctness as people here in the US do? :blink:

Do you mean that right wing political correctness is a thing that exists, is hugely downplayed by the right, exists in both Japan and America, and is why One Piece 89 has people throwing 1 star reviews at it on Amazon?
The answer to all cases is: yes!

Johnny B. Decent

Japan has a disturbingly large community of right-wing Imperial Japan loyalists. Like "The Rape of Nanjing Never Happened Despite Massive Evidence It Did!" kind of people.

Rivaille

Thanks Redon

Sibersk Esto

So the volume has been out for 4-5 weeks and according to sales numbers hasn't hit 2 million yet.

It sounds ridiculous to say, but i can't remember the last time an OP volume failed to crack 2 million this far in.

MrBits

I hope this drop doesn't continue onto the next volume's sales.

theackwardstation

Two million is not more special than any other number… Fact is that One Piece is steadily dropping in sales for years now and it was bound to get below 2 million at some point.

Greg

It was a blip on the radar.

People that care about this aren't usually people that buy the comic and if anything, have a chip on their shoulder regarding the series.

It's a non-issue and there has been nothing about it after the apology.

Captain M

I posted these to Reddit but I figure you guys might appreciate them too. Compilations of all the covers and spines to date, all taken from the digital volumes, each set in one big beautiful image. Obviously, the covers one is the full size version of what I use for my sig.

!

maxterdexter

I hope that Wano is a big fuck you to the far right.

Monkey King

I wish Oda had done something cool with the spine images, like a specific character on each one, or some sort of unfolding picture like Dragonball had.
He's usually very into doing cool renditions of classic manga stuff, so I've always found it strange that he just left that aspect up to random snapshots from the cover.

Ah well.

maxterdexter

That's a little presumptious for an ongoing series, regular series would be like "I'm sure we'll get to THIS number" so it's unfinished, while for One Piece is now "I'm sure I'll be done by THIS volume" and so there's more space for them.

Laffitte Doflamingo

@Greg:

It was a blip on the radar.

People that care about this aren't usually people that buy the comic and if anything, have a chip on their shoulder regarding the series.

It's a non-issue and there has been nothing about it after the apology.

I agree with what you said but I've also seen people blaming it for the big decrease in sales (looks like it may be 250 thousand less copies sold than Vol. 88 for the same amount of period, before its ranking falls below No.50 on ORICON weekly charts).

Monkey King

@maxterdexter:

That's a little presumptious for an ongoing series, regular series would be like "I'm sure we'll get to THIS number" so it's unfinished, while for One Piece is now "I'm sure I'll be done by THIS volume" and so there's more space for them.

It really isn't though. Dragonball sure as heck wasn't pre-decided upon length wise, there was multiple spine pictures (and two Yajerobes lol).

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@Laffitte:

I agree with what you said but I've also seen people blaming it for the big decrease in sales (looks like it may be 250 thousand less copies sold than Vol. 88 for the same amount of period, before its ranking falls below No.50 on ORICON weekly charts).

I'm willing to bet One Piece is just (has for awhile anyway) become really hard for new young readers to hop into. Its become massive after all.
Which I bet has long since been determined by Shueisha, and why the theory editors are pushing for the little catch-up panels that annoy us long time followers sounds spot on.

maxterdexter

Lol.

There are also two Goku as well. And Lunch is an important character! More than Tien, Chaotzu, Mr. Satan, Buu, all flavors of Trunks, Chichi and Goten.

I still would rather have something with a solid plan.

The second printing gets everyone in there, but it's bland and just puts giant letters to balance the image somewhat, while the "ultimate edition" is fine as a color work, but as a "This is DRAGON BALL" lacks some punch, other than the physical weight of 34 volumes.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31062

Monkey King

@maxterdexter:

There are also two Goku as well.

Not the same thing though. Kid Goku on the cloud, and then at the end adult Goku in SSJ form.

Those are both exactly the same Yajerobe (with inconsistent coloring lol), he just plum forgot in that case!

Greg

I agree with what you said but I've also seen people blaming it for the big decrease in sales (looks like it may be 250 thousand less copies sold than Vol. 88 for the same amount of period, before its ranking falls below No.50 on ORICON weekly charts).

Sure, sure. While the decreasing sales exists, I believe the source for that is based on volumes sold to retailers not actual volumes sold, no?

That was the case when OP was breaking initial print sales at least. They do the same things for video game hardware here.

And retailers ordering fewer copies may very well be due to the series popularity 'decreasing' (I use the term relatively) due to its age, length and lack of a boom from GOLD.

At any rate, of the many problems One Piece has from time to time, this wasn't something to worry about. Just another thing to remember about how sad haters can be over here.

Laffitte Doflamingo

@Greg:

Sure, sure. While the decreasing sales exists, I believe the source for that is based on volumes sold to retailers not actual volumes sold, no?

That was the case when OP was breaking initial print sales at least. They do the same things for video game hardware here.

And retailers ordering fewer copies may very well be due to the series popularity 'decreasing' (I use the term relatively) due to its age, length and lack of a boom from GOLD.

At any rate, of the many problems One Piece has from time to time, this wasn't something to worry about. Just another thing to remember about how sad haters can be over here.

Maybe. I'm not sure how ORICON actually comes up with the numbers, but I heard that they are not the actual/exact statistics (I imagine it would be impossible to count every single one sold). I also heard, maybe a year ago or so, that ORICON changed its algorithm. That being said, I never take the numbers too seriously, but instead pay more attention to the trends and make relative comparisons between different series.

Anyway, haters' minds never worth guessing.

andre

So what exactly was the controversy with this last volume?