Given her previous track record Occam's razor tells us she sure as hell is pregnant.
One Piece 865: "Hey, Mother"
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Sure Robin and Franky were "bad guys" but their actions were flipping over a finger to a box of kittens next to what Big Mom does it.
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@Shobu:
Huh? Do you expect a mere 'sprint' when the man can and has performed almost everytime his own version of Soru since after the timeskip? You sure are easily conformed.
Anyways, Luffy at the moment has not shown anything to think that he can take Lin Lin, Oda don't shows his personal effects after Mom's HH… which is to imply for the best of him, which i don't do... but doesn't matters, Luffy is not there to beat a Yonko. Just saiyan, how weak he looks.
Using Soru wouldn't have helped Luffy at all since he was right on Big Mom's heels and needed to stand in front of her. And who's to say Katakuri wouldn't have been able to keep up as well?
We saw Luffy after the scream, he was blown away by the scream but wasn't affected by Conqueror's Haki. Of course Big Mom is supposed to be stronger than Luffy, she's a Yonko and I'm not expecting him to beat her either. But with their strength in regards to each other well established, there's no need to call Luffy weak. It's pointless to call someone weak every time someone manages to overpower them because otherwise you will never be satisfied in an action manga like this.
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I wouldn't mind this flashback to have a very little microscopic piece of information about Uranus. It's been a long time since we last heard about the Ancestral Weapons and even less about Uranus, so having the first smidge of detail here could help the pace of their sub plot. Especially if the fact why giants seem to be so powerful and important now is because they have the weapon
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I think that the "Mama needs to choose what she is the more upset about" thing and Perospero not killing the Vinsmokes because of bad-pacing are the worst things that happened in this arc by far. Maybe the worst thing that happened to the manga since Luffy being "out of haki".
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I think that the "Mama needs to choose what she is the more upset about" thing and Perospero not killing the Vinsmokes because of bad-pacing are the worst things that happened in this arc by far. Maybe the worst thing that happened to the manga since Luffy being "out of haki".
I can things of worse things like the Birdcage or something related to Hody Jones.
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I can understand the out of haki thing, but for sure armaments or hardening needed some nerf.
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@Kaido:
Using Soru wouldn't have helped Luffy at all since he was right on Big Mom's heels and needed to stand in front of her. And who's to say Katakuri wouldn't have been able to keep up as well?
We saw Luffy after the scream, he was blown away by the scream but wasn't affected by Conqueror's Haki. Of course Big Mom is supposed to be stronger than Luffy, she's a Yonko and I'm not expecting him to beat her either. But with their strength in regards to each other well established, there's no need to call Luffy weak. It's pointless to call someone weak every time someone manages to overpower them because otherwise you will never be satisfied in an action manga like this.
I do not consider One Piece an action manga, but that's just me… because Oda is not good enough to my standarts when it comes about battles... which is why Luffy Vs Usopp stands atop of my battle ranking.
The soru thing, you're defending the undefendable, which specially you Kaido should not do, because i know pretty well that you know about the movements of the Luffy Vs Doflamingo, battle that showed Gear Second's full capacity.
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@uniaka:
I can understand the out of haki thing, but for sure armaments or hardening needed some nerf.
Oda has put it quite simple, when Busoshoku is involved, two things matter: How hard is the thing embued and the skill of the user using it.
So, when battles are in need of a balanced development, he just has to use one of those resources.
He has did it before, in theory; at Cracker's battle, only G4's muscular power could tear the embued biscuit soldiers, so no chance for Luffy to chew the biscuit… but with Nami's rain, he could do it because the first resource was played, it losed hardness.
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Problem is that Luffy is getting trashed around too easily. Sanji too, but don't get me started on that.
It used to add charm to all the fights in the beginning. Seeing how reckless he is and how he gets surprised, but still bounces back. Here we have him caught and then saved by Jinbe. Then caught again. Lucky Jinbe was there and he knew Katakuri's ability. If only Bege mentioned something about him earlier when they were planning the attack.
The real problem is that all these skirmishes are getting as little attention as possible, so too many small details are left to reader's imagination.
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I think that the "Mama needs to choose what she is the more upset about" thing and Perospero not killing the Vinsmokes because of bad-pacing are the worst things that happened in this arc by far. Maybe the worst thing that happened to the manga since Luffy being "out of haki".
I don't agree that Mama's cake conflict was bad. She's placed importance upon the cake in nearly every scene she's been in since the arc started - sure, it was never stated outright like the picture was, but it was built up enough to make sense - and in a way, that makes it quite a bit better than the portrait.
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I can things of worse things like the Birdcage or something related to Hody Jones.
The birdcage was really bad yeah, it stretched on too many chapters. This kind of thing really deserves its own thread. "TOP10 most cringing things" or something like that.
@uniaka:
I can understand the out of haki thing, but for sure armaments or hardening needed some nerf.
Haki has never been haxed or whatever.
Plus, we'll probably never ever see an "out of haki" scene. I suspect Oda to have created this thing just for this very moment.
Problem is that Luffy is getting trashed around too easily. Sanji too, but don't get me started on that.
It used to add charm to all the fights in the beginning. Seeing how reckless he is and how he gets surprised, but still bounces back. Here we have him caught and then saved by Jinbe. Then caught again. Lucky Jinbe was there and he knew Katakuri's ability. If only Bege mentioned something about him earlier when they were planning the attack.
The real problem is that all these skirmishes are getting as little attention as possible, so too many small details are left to reader's imagination.
Jinbei might be getting too much hype. Last time he struggled was literally against Ace in his flashback. He's getting a better portrayal than his future captain.
Also, Luffy is really being trashed yeah, if he can't use his gear4 (because too tired) he'd better awaken or something because if not, he'll just be useless the rest of the arc.
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@Kaido:
I don't agree that Mama's cake conflict was bad. She's placed importance upon the cake in nearly every scene she's been in since the arc started - sure, it was never stated outright like the picture was, but it was built up enough to make sense - and in a way, that makes it quite a bit better than the portrait.
Her cake conflict was good, but her having to think about what she's the more pissed about was complete bullshit. She should have started screaming two chapters ago.
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Her cake conflict was good, but her having to think about what she's the more pissed about was complete bullshit. She should have started screaming two chapters ago.
She wasn't really thinking though - she was in a rage overload because two different but equal possessions of her got destroyed and she was unable to focus on one over the other.
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@Kaido:
She wasn't really thinking though - she was in a rage overload because two different but equal possessions of her got destroyed and she was unable to focus on one over the other.
Which psychologically makes no sense. I have never heard about this end neither did you. If I get fired and have my apartment burned the same day, I'll be pissed, I won't black out because I wouldn't know what to be the more pissed about.
She wasn't thinking about what to be the more pissed about, she "didn't know". Not much of a difference.
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Which psychologically makes no sense. I have never heard about this end neither did you. If I get fired and have my apartment burned the same day, I'll be pissed, I won't black out because I wouldn't know what to be the more pissed about.
She was thinking about what to be the more pissed about, she "didn't know". Not much of a difference.
Except that for the cake she goes on a murderous rampage until she gets more while for the portrait she falls into despair as her defenses drop. That's quite a bit of a difference.
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@Kaido:
She wasn't really thinking though - she was in a rage overload because two different but equal possessions of her got destroyed and she was unable to focus on one over the other.
But the question remains of why she even had to focus on prioritizing one above the other. They were both destroyed by the Straw Hats, a singular and present threat. There wasn't really a reason for these two sources of agony to conflict rather than complement her wrath and shock. A rage overload for a situation like this was an arbitrary move by Oda. Probably so that he could showcase Bege getting outed as a traitor with an ample amount of time before the KX launchers are shot, along with giving more panel time to the Vinsmokes.
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@Kaido:
Except that for the cake she goes on a murderous rampage until she gets more while for the portrait she falls into despair as her defenses drop. That's quite a bit of a difference.
First one being 5seconds of being weakened and kill the one who touched the picture, and the other one is sheer rampage. Not that different if you ask me.
Also, as Count Mario just said, there is no point of prioritizing one above the other.
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In a world where there is a narcoleptic guy that has personality disorder while suffering from a case of sleepwalking I have to wonder why should I care if it makes sense psychologically.
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It's not really about whether it makes sense psychologically as much as if there's a narrative point to it if Big Mom is still going to scream after only one or two chapters later than expected.
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In a world where there is a narcoleptic guy that has personality disorder while suffering from a case of sleepwalking I have to wonder why should I care if it makes sense psychologically.
Then switch the word "psychologically" with "logically". That really isn't the point though. "She doesn't know what to be the more upset about" goes in the same league as "he is out of haki". At least it only lasted one chapter, and 4 or 5 with Luffy being carried around waiting to get his "haki back" at once.
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Happy Mother's day to all the forum Mothers out there…
Yes. Yes he did.
Well because of that spread, Oven is now missing in action. Or did Oven and Smoothie rotate on shifts?
Cause now we see Oven MIA and Smoothie trying to do something by giving orders [ Even though no one can hear her due to the scream]. lol.@Kaido:
Yes, because engaging in a bloody massacre out of turn during a formal ceremony is obviously the same thing as doing the best to get the job done after all hell breaks loose.
And I don't really see how you can be criticizing Katakuri when he went above and beyond to stop Luffy from getting the picture. The plan to show the picture would have failed if Luffy's Devil Fruit powers didn't come to the rescue - what more do you want? And I'm sure if Bege had actually pressed him in this chapter you would criticize him for being an embarrassment of a Sweet commander.
I am very sorry it takes you so long to read a double spread with three words of dialogue.
No one was ever under the impression that showing the portrait again wouldn't make Big Mom focus on it. That has been explicitly stated in the last chapter and this one, you're just ignoring it because it doesn't fit your view of the power levels of Big Mom's reactions. Sure, she didn't blow anyone away when she was craving cake. But no one is in danger from her right now, she's just screaming and physically weak. When she was craving food she attacked Luffy with Prometheus, which he had to dodge. Now, he's immobilized, but so long as Big Mom keeps screaming he's in no danger. Also, you seem to be forgetting that her actual assassins, Bege Vito and Gotti, are quite fine and ready to get the show on the road. Impossible to compare the two on even grounds; they are different reactions to two things that Big Mom values dearly.
First of all, having different reactions is a non issue. One is worse than the other and that is the picture reaction. Luffy is hurting and in pain holding his ears. He wasn't doing any of that in Meme's cake rage. So you're just flat out wrong. Also, Dogtooth now says assassinate the smokes when he should of did thta chapters ago when the plan was out the moment he tried to snipe Sanji. It's just Oda wasting time to set up Bege. At least make the Mom and her pirates competent while preparing the assault.
BTW, Why do I have this feeling Pekoms is gonna interrupt Bege from Super Soaking Big Meme?
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In a world where there is a narcoleptic guy that has personality disorder while suffering from a case of sleepwalking I have to wonder why should I care if it makes sense psychologically.
that's hakuba tho
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Even if you change from psychological to logical it makes no difference when pairing it up in the same sentence with Big Mom. To such a greedy, gluttonous character, the amount of offenses that transpired in this arc alone were unlike anything she had experienced during her pirate life. Luffy has managed to insult Linlin in every way she has been insulted before (which is funny considering she is not aware of the glyphs yet and other pending bombs to consider) and more. So it comes to no surprise that she just loses it for a while. The fact is, Luffy almost ruined the plan by almost throwing Mama into a rage instead of a cry. The fact that Mama did not scream the instance the frame was broken just proves to show, that there was no physical link between them, which it seems it was still expected given the amount of times Dorian's picture was brought or the Harry Potter charms.
There is nothing shown so far that makes me believe Luffy is taking this seriously enough to warrant a Soru, gear 2nd, much less gear fourth.
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First of all, having different reactions is a non issue. One is worse than the other and that is the picture reaction. Luffy is hurting and in pain holding his ears. He wasn't doing any of that in Meme's cake rage.
Yes, but is Big Mom threatening his life? No, she is just as helpless as he is. And just because one reaction immediately floors Luffy doesn't mean it's more important than the other; that's an arbitrary standard you're setting.
So you're just flat out wrong. Also, Dogtooth now says assassinate the smokes when he should of did thta chapters ago when the plan was out the moment he tried to snipe Sanji. It's just Oda wasting time to set up Bege. At least make the Mom and her pirates competent while preparing the assault.
But Katakuri wasn't attempting to take part in massacring the other Vinsmokes, he was trying to kill Sanji to get the plan rolling. If anything, his epic fail should have made the other Big Mom Pirates even more cautious about stepping out of turn. Not to mention that his main focus after trying to kill Sanji was trying to contain the chaos that he foresaw Luffy causing - since what good is a massacre if you have uncontrolled chaos?
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Haki has never been haxed or whatever.
But it was compared to the other 2 types of haki. One haki can ko fodder, one can see a few seconds in the future and one haki is the only way to fight logias(besides elemental weakness, if they got one), is armor that protects from df or attacks, and also make attacks stronger and can be combined with weapons or dfs to make them better(g4).
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Which psychologically makes no sense. I have never heard about this end neither did you. If I get fired and have my apartment burned the same day, I'll be pissed, I won't black out because I wouldn't know what to be the more pissed about.
She wasn't thinking about what to be the more pissed about, she "didn't know". Not much of a difference.
The thing the reaction she's supposed to have because of the wedding cake being destroyed is not the same that the reaction she's supposed to have because of mother carmel portrait being destroyed. In the first case it's more her stomach who talks and she'd be in a berserk mode, wanting do destroy evrything. In the second case, it's more her heart who talks and she'd be sad and panicking
So it's not that surprising that she don't know what to choose between being mad or being sad, what to listen betwen her heart or her stomach.
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BTW, Why do I have this feeling Pekoms is gonna interrupt Bege from Super Soaking Big Meme?
Me too, and a also a move from lola's father who is the only bm's hasbend remaining in the isle, maybe saving the others after the escaping mirror break.
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@uniaka:
But it was compared to the other 2 types of haki. One haki can ko fodder, one can see a few seconds in the future and one haki is the only way to fight logias(besides elemental weakness, if they got one), is armor that protects from df or attacks, and also make attacks stronger and can be combined with weapons or dfs to make them better(g4).
Yes using haki gives you an advantage against those who don't, but doesn't make it haxed and didn't need to be nerfed.
Adding that logias are still logias wether they're fighting a haki user or not. From what we've seen with Katakuri fighting Capone, Jinbei and Pedro, also Marco and Vista vs Akainu –- it seems that the ability of a logia DF is still working as usual against a haki user (except that they just feel the pain).@Monkey:
The thing the reaction she's supposed to have because of the wedding cake being destroyed is not the same that the reaction she's supposed to have because of mother carmel portrait being destroyed. In the first case it's more her stomach who talks and she'd be in a berserk mode, wanting do destroy evrything. In the second case, it's more her heart who talks and she'd be sad and panicking
So it's not that surprising that she don't know what to choose between being mad or being sad, what to listen between her heart or her stomach.
I've already answered to this. It doesn't matter, and she could definitely be both at the same time. Reason why she blacked out was to give time to other plotlines to progress, that's the thing. And this is blatant. It screwed up all the pacing to have Luffy showing her the pic a second time. Really stupid thing. "she can't make her choice, let's help her" also why did she open her eyes at once when he showed her the pic the second time ? anyway, this might be nitpicking though, but her not knowing what she's the more upset about is not. (nitpicking, it's not nitpicking)
Also you're using the "stomach" and "heart" thing but it all comes from the brain, those are just images. Anyway, it really doesn't change a thing. People should sometimes just acknowledge Oda's errors. The pacing of the last 2-3 chapters aren't good. The rest of the arc is fine though (imo).
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Considering I have seen people torn between two or more issues, and then see them shut down, not saying or doing anything because of this conflict, I would say Big Mom reaction is pretty accurate to what her personality has been built up to. Everytime I see Big Mom it reminds me of an over-sized entitled child, and her reaction fits that description.
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@K.:
Considering I have seen people torn between two or more issues, and then see them shut down, not saying or doing anything because of this conflict, I would say Big Mom reaction is pretty accurate to what her personality has been built up to. Everytime I see Big Mom it reminds me of an over-sized entitled child, and her reaction fits that description.
Honestly, BM being confused like that isn't much of an issue for me. Compared to how most of her children are reacting to this, it barely blinks on my radar.
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Honestly, BM being confused like that isn't much of an issue for me. Compared to how most of her children are reacting to this, it barely blinks on my radar.
About the children, I think there are two things to consider, which might be a bit hard to do. The first one would be that not all party members are Big Mom's children, and I think that goes beyond the underworld leaders. I am not going to begin counting the guests, however the amount of inactivity is in part because of this. Not to mention that Bege was in charge of security, so most of the on hands personnel that would deal with this problem, is part of it.
The second aspect would be the amount of time that has transpired. I think, this concept is really hard to pull off in a manga, not to mention we know how much 3 seconds can be 1 hour, it is my perception that the events happening are not only surprising, but happening in quick succession.
Cake blows up -> avoid cake -> check the status of the plan -> Potato gets yelled for stepping out of line/even though he can see the future -> Jimbe quits the crew and is not afraid of Big Mom -> picture is broken… And so on, events stacking against them, to which they are reacting to, but cannot anticipate, what to do, unlike Potato. Potato's biggest fault was to not instruct the other Big Mom pirates to organize, but again these fast event kept him busy just trying to keep up. In short, if we would guess how much time went by since Luffy broke out of the cake, we could say it has been less than 2 minutes, with Jimbe's speech taking like no more than a minute, and that is pushing it.
To put it in perspective, like a high end basketball game. One of the team is strong, but the other changes their tactics and for a minute or two start pounding the team out of 15-20 points, which then the coach would ask for a timeout to halt the momentum. When Potato was stopped by Jimbe, he should have started coaching his crewmates to what to do.
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But for me the thing is: Her threatlevel looks like a Shichibukai not a Yonko
The one that pre-timeskip and pre-gears Luffy beat to a pulp?
The other one pre-timeskip Luffy also beat to a pulp?
The one Luffy utterly trashed on Gear Fourth?
Or maybe her threatlevel is around Law's?
Jinbe? Boa? Weevil?
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I think closer to Buggy as both of them are big fat jokes. :ninja:
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Not to mention that Big Mom's children did leap into action once they realized what was going on and knew they could at least try to solve it by beating the shit out of the alliance.
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Yo, guys. Something I should let you all know: this is likely going to be the last time I'll be able to be done with the chapter comparisons this early in the day. From the next chapter on, I will have begun full-time employment, and as such, likely won't be able to do these until after work for the vast majority of the time. Rest assured that I still plan to keep doing them; they just won't come out until later in the day. Hope you understand~
And with that, let's get started. Since this was a relatively action-heavy, dialogue-light chapter, not too many differences today:
- In Mangastream, Cavendish is describing something that happened when he "was a young boy". While that does seem to match the picture in his thought-bubble, Jaimini's Box just uses "in the past" while VIZ uses "years ago".
- In the MS bubble where Caesar is thinking "So then what's the hold-up?", while it basically has the same message, that's an MS-exclusive; JB and VIZ both say "And yet–!" there.
- In part of Reiju's thoughts, both scanlations say "I'm saved/I've been saved!", so I'm guessing that's probably the actual translation of the original words there. However, the official translation fills that in a little more, saying "I feel like my heart has been redeemed at last!"
- Similarly, when Katakuri's mochi is rushing towards Luffy, both scanlations have Luffy shout "You bastard!", so again, I'm sure that's what the original Japanese actually said, too. However, the official has him say "You want this?!", referring to the picture in his hands.
- Bege's one-liner as he and his men prepare to shoot Big Mom is different in each version. MS uses "Time for a dirt nap!" (which I'm reasonably certain is not a literal translation, lol), JB says "Ciao" (which fits their Mafia theme), and VIZ goes for "See you in hell" (which, again, is probably a loose translation, but it's pretty fun).
- In the official, Big Mom's words when thinking about Mother Carmel included "Nobody…will hear me out" (in the places where the scanlations say "nobody will listen to me"), and the final line of panels say "Where did you go? Why did you just up and vanish?"
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"Where did you go? Why did you just up and vanish?"
Somebody's gotta hand out umbrellas on the lightning island :ninja:
(Kidding, no solid reason to believe that's her any more than Whitebeard's "lover" or someone completely different)
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- In Mangastream, Cavendish is describing something that happened when he "was a young boy". While that does seem to match the picture in his thought-bubble, Jaimini's Box just uses "in the past" while VIZ uses "years ago".
uhmmm, seems to me we're actually getting a Cabbage's fb also, I'm totally betting there will be another more popular kid on his story.
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Cabbage: "When I was a young boy, my father took me into the city to see a marching band."
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Yeah. So what if it is?
Nothing, just was cool to remember one of the best part of dressrosa. At least I wanted to say it.
I replied to you but honestly I didn't want to pick you up, it was more a Sen Dog line if you know what I mean
I don't know if that ain't fine with you but it was completely fine with me, sometimes when I'm bored I just get enthusiast for silly reasons
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@Kaido:
Cabbage: "When I was a young boy, my father took me into the city to see a marching band."
When I was a Young Boy, my father took me into the City to see a pirate get slain.
He said "one day, if you turn into a pirate, your fate will be the same." XD@Bellisario
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When I was a Young Boy, my father took me into the City to see a pirate get slain.
He said "one day, if you turn into a pirate, your fate will be the same." XD…His name was Gol D Roger, the most popular pirate. -wait!! the most popular??.... not on my watch!!
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So what do people think about this prediction:
Bonney is mother caramel, she is super old but can turn herself younger due to her (not confirmed) Age age no mi.
Big mom was inspired by bonney somehow but she does not know about Bonney being mother Caramel. Furthermore i think Big mom is half giant and her first marriage was with a giant of Elbath maybe Thor or someone.
what do you think?
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Mother Caramel being Bonney is one of the few ways we can still connect Bonney to Big Mom given their similarities. However, if Big Mom was an orphan which Caramel had custody too. Mother Caramel could have run an orphanage and Bonney was there.
The main problem is that Bonney has been confirmed to have come from South Blue, which seems like a very long trip, Elbaf -> South Blue. However, she was also in the custody of the marines at one point taking Akainu's words into consideration. Elbaf -> Marines -> Sout Blue?
By Big Mom words before the start of the flashback, it seems she either was already an entitled brat seeking attention, or she was a decent person that got fed up.
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So what do people think about this prediction:
Bonney is mother caramel, she is super old but can turn herself younger due to her (not confirmed) Age age no mi.
Big mom was inspired by bonney somehow but she does not know about Bonney being mother Caramel. Furthermore i think Big mom is half giant and her first marriage was with a giant of Elbath maybe Thor or someone.
what do you think?
I think if Oda wanted to go that route he'd at least show Bonney with a cigarette once.
However!
Maybe she quit.
People who stop smoking after a long time sometimes tend to stuff their faces with food. But mostly what I said first. And they don't even look alike.
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I think if Oda wanted to go that route he'd at least show Bonney with a cigarette once.
However!
Maybe she quit.
People who stop smoking after a long time sometimes tend to stuff their faces with food. But mostly what I said first. And they don't even look alike.
we are talking 60 years or something in difference just look at alvida, DF can do wonders ;)
Still i deffinently think Oda has something bigger planned with Bonney also since even Akainu seemed to be concerned about her.
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Damn !!! I keep on checking every half an hour if there are spoilers, and just remembered that there is a break !!! :(
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Still i deffinently think Oda has something bigger planned with Bonney also since even Akainu seemed to be concerned about her.
That he might. Nevertheless, I would find it a stretch if it turned out 'Caramel' Bonney has been around for over 60 years, with all the effort Oda made to introduce her as one of the Worst Gen rookies. Her fruit may allow her to hide her actual age, but it doesn't explain why no-one would have heard of her before.
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Damn, same as Lightforce here. I completely forgot the break (and if Oda needs his break every couple of chapters, hadnt he had one at Golden Week? Does it really matter that much, that everyone else has one as well? )
But, if its already complaining time: When will be the time for the BM pirates to finally shine?
Okay, lets keep BM herself and Katakuri out of that (and honestly, even Katakuri for all his supposedly badass moments, has failed in every single thing he tried to do, but I wont blame him)
What happened to Oven? He had Pedro disarmed and at his mercy, openly declaring his intent to take him out for good….. and the next chapter Pedro is just nonchalantly fighting around a disabled Bm and no Oven anywhere in sight.
The less is said about Smoothie the better.
Perospero, what the hell are you doing? Just shoot already! What exactly are you waiting for?
And where are the rest of the BM bigshots? Mont'dor, Galette, that first daughter? All the actual enemies are around BM, so are they really still struggling with freaking ANIMALS? Okay, there was an element of surprise at first, thats understandable, but they are at it for multiple chapters now. Shouldnt they have kept them down already and lend poor Katakuri a hand?
[Thinking about it, Daifuku also is doing his job, no complaints here]The worst part is, that any possible BM Pirates counterattack is still in the future. We have now the flashback chapters, however long they will be. We will have the failed BM asassination and very likely a BM-centric response. We still will have at least one chapter for the Vinsmokes with their equipment and weapons to shine. AND THEN hopefully the BM Pirates will begin to take control of the battlefield.
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Damn, same as Lightforce here. I completely forgot the break (and if Oda needs his break every couple of chapters, hadnt he had one at Golden Week? Does it really matter that much, that everyone else has one as well? )
But, if its already complaining time: When will be the time for the BM pirates to finally shine?
Okay, lets keep BM herself and Katakuri out of that (and honestly, even Katakuri for all his supposedly badass moments, has failed in every single thing he tried to do, but I wont blame him)
What happened to Oven? He had Pedro disarmed and at his mercy, openly declaring his intent to take him out for good….. and the next chapter Pedro is just nonchalantly fighting around a disabled Bm and no Oven anywhere in sight.
The less is said about Smoothie the better.
Perospero, what the hell are you doing? Just shoot already! What exactly are you waiting for?
And where are the rest of the BM bigshots? Mont'dor, Galette, that first daughter? All the actual enemies are around BM, so are they really still struggling with freaking ANIMALS? Okay, there was an element of surprise at first, thats understandable, but they are at it for multiple chapters now. Shouldnt they have kept them down already and lend poor Katakuri a hand?
[Thinking about it, Daifuku also is doing his job, no complaints here]The worst part is, that any possible BM Pirates counterattack is still in the future. We have now the flashback chapters, however long they will be. We will have the failed BM asassination and very likely a BM-centric response. We still will have at least one chapter for the Vinsmokes with their equipment and weapons to shine. AND THEN hopefully the BM Pirates will begin to take control of the battlefield.
The problem is that the Big Mom Pirates aren't really major players in this arc. Ironic considering the setting, yes, but this arc has pretty much entirely focused on Sanji. Everything the Big Mom Pirates have done in this arc has been focused around him. We have not really gotten anything about them besides that, other than brief looks into Big Mom's obsession with Poneglyphs and the Carmel portrait. The only full battles in this arc were Luffy vs. Cracker and Brook vs. Big Mom, with the latter of which being a curb stomp. The entire sentiment of the Sanji Retrieval Team has been to essentially hit and run, focusing on rescuing Sanji and getting the Poneglyphs and nothing else. Even Bege's plan puts the crew in the backseat, as he's focusing entirely on taking Big Mom down and wants to keep her crew alive. So, essentially, Big Mom's crew members are tools that serve the function they're supposed to in this kind of plot; they have not been built up to be major threats that the Straw Hats have to engage in epic battles with (not to mention that there are too many of them for that to be feasible). Any further development of them will likely have to come in a future arc, and I hope that does come to pass, because there's certainly a lot of room to develop.