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    • KaizokuJinbei
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      http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/05/09/hellboy-to-be-rebooted-with-new-director-actor-according-to-creator-mike-mignola

      The reboot will be R-rated, said Mignola on social media, and be helmed by The Descent and Dog Soldiers' director Neil Marshall. David Harbour, most recently known for his role as Police Chief Jim Hopper in Stranger Things, will replace Ron Perlman as the eponymous red superhero.

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        I guess I can see why they would replace Perlman given his age (and it being a reboot). Don't know about everything else.

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        I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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          No Del Toro plus no Ron Perlman makes this a "Eh." announcement to me.

          Complicating things since 2009.

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            A part of me kinda died inside. But at least Hellboy isn't forgotten.

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            If anyone needs me, I'll be rewatching the two movies and animated movies while crying in the corner.:cwy:

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              So for ten freaking years they say "nope, third movie is never happening" and right when all the people formerly involved officially give up on it forever a new one is given a go ahead? Sigh.

              No Del Toro and no Ron Pe…

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              No Del Toro plus no Ron Perlman makes this a "Eh." announcement to me.

              Yeah, that.

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              I guess I can see why they would replace Perlman given his age (and it being a reboot). Don't know about everything else.

              As intensive as that makeup was, his age really doesn't matter much. The age of the rest of the cast… maybe.

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                I'll tried to be open minded about this. But I got a feeling this isn't going to be good without Del Toro and Perlman.

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                  http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/05/10/hellboy-reboot-aiming-for-a-horror-movie-style-working-title-revealed

                  "Hellboy: Rise of the Blood Queen", and is aiming "to walk a razor’s edge between horror and comic book movie".

                  Working title and what style they are aiming for.

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                    I was about 13 when I first saw Hellboy and absolutely loved it. It was my first taste of a quality horror/occult film, plus I just loved Hellboy as a character. I couldn't stop thinking about it for days after that. It's going to be kinda weird not seeing Hellboy in a Del Toro vision, and hard not to compare the new film with the old.

                    I want to remain open-minded about this, and I'm okay with the casting of Harbour. Would've been happier if Hellboy III went through, though.

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                      http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/08/resident-evils-milla-jovovich-to-play-villain-in-hellboy-reboot

                      Milla Jovovich cast as the Blood Queen

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                        Yeah, this isn't looking something that will go smoothly.
                        http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41077054

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                          It can't doesn't look like it's gotten to clusterfuck levels like the Young Han Solo film not yet at least.

                          Originally Posted by Ubiq

                          I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                            I find it interesting I've heard all about the actor quitting, but absolutely none of the scandal of the initial whitewashing accusations.

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                              I find it interesting I've heard all about the actor quitting, but absolutely none of the scandal of the initial whitewashing accusations.

                              I saw a few articles about it. But I also follow Angry Asian and Love of an Asian Guy on facebook.

                              I'm glad he quit. I want to watch these movies guilt free. Also since things seemed to be already shakey with production they didn't need extra scandals weighing down interest.

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                                Looks like they are casting Daniel Dae Kim as Ben.

                                https://nextshark.com/daniel-dae-kim-will-replacing-ed-skrein-ben-daimio-hellboy-reboot/

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                                  Close enough .

                                  Originally Posted by Ubiq

                                  I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                                    Yeah it's a few steps in the right direction. But I'm not really liking that they interchange Asian people to fit roles. Daniel is Korean but the character is Japanese American. sigh

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                                      @Cyclone_Baroness:

                                      Yeah it's a few steps in the right direction. But I'm not really liking that they interchange Asian people to fit roles. Daniel is Korean but the character is Japanese American. sigh

                                      I know I originally was going to point that out but I was having another conversation elsewhere and just punched it in.

                                      Originally Posted by Ubiq

                                      I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                                        @Cyclone_Baroness:

                                        Yeah it's a few steps in the right direction. But I'm not really liking that they interchange Asian people to fit roles. Daniel is Korean but the character is Japanese American. sigh

                                        Also he may not be the right age, right height, right weight, right blood type…

                                        geez there's so much wrong here with this picture.

                                        (Seriously at this point I'm just happy that Asian actors are getting work rather than this white-washing bullshit so...whatever, I'm fine with it.)

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                                          @Cyclone_Baroness:

                                          Yeah it's a few steps in the right direction. But I'm not really liking that they interchange Asian people to fit roles. Daniel is Korean but the character is Japanese American. sigh

                                          Japanese and Korean people look the same.
                                          Just like British and German people, Turkish and Arab, Nigerian and Senegalese, Pakistani and Indian etc.
                                          Not the controversy you're imagining.
                                          I'm glad Daniel doesn't have to just sit around on his hands until Korean characters show up, because that can't be very often.

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                                            Japanese and Korean people look the same.
                                            Just like British and German people, Turkish and Arab, Nigerian and Senegalese, Pakistani and Indian etc.
                                            Not the controversy you're imagining.
                                            I'm glad Daniel doesn't have to just sit around on his hands until Korean characters show up, because that can't be very often.

                                            Do they? Personally I can't tell the difference physically. I remember being told the differences years ago, but I don't recall the specifics. I'm not really saying it's a huge controversy. But is it really that hard to find Japanese American actors?

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                                              Given how most Asian actors seem to be either Chinese or Korean I would think so.

                                              Originally Posted by Ubiq

                                              I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                                                @Cyclone_Baroness:

                                                Do they? Personally I can't tell the difference physically. I remember being told the differences years ago, but I don't recall the specifics.

                                                A raised eyebrow is always a pretty good response to that sort of talk. As it's almost always coming from a sort of nationalist silly place.
                                                Are there some traits that might pop up a bit more in Place A then Place B? Yeah. But do 75% of the rest of the traits show up interchangeably? Yepppp.

                                                But is it really that hard to find Japanese American actors?

                                                I don't see why it matters. The character is East Asian, and what they need is someone who looks East Asian (and not uh…a white guy lol). Not someone from exactly the right set of borders within East Asia.
                                                I mean maybe if they needed an authentic accent or something like that, but most Asian-Americans wouldn't have an accent anyway.

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                                                Given how most Asian actors seem to be either Chinese or Korean I would think so.

                                                Yeah, the US never really had a huge volume of Japanese immigration like it did Chinese or Korean. And what flow there was definitely dried up a long while back due to Japan first worlding and stabilizing. Heck even Korean immigration has been drying up for the same reason.

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                                                  @Monkey:

                                                  A raised eyebrow is always a pretty good response to that sort of talk. As it's almost always coming from a sort of nationalist silly place.

                                                  The differences are really blatantly obvious but since the rest of the world that can't tell the difference at all then…yeah. It really doesn't matter at all at this point unless one of the designated countries start throwing a hissy fit about the character portrayal. And it is even a greater moot point since he's supposed to be portraying an Asian American anyway so...shrug

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                                                    The differences are really blatantly obvious

                                                    Physically speaking naw not really. Which is what we're talking about.
                                                    No matter where you go in the old world people get really insistent that most if not all of their immediate neighbors are wildly different exotic beasts nothing like themselves. But like I said, this is at best a case of the narcissism of small differences. At worst it's nationalist nuttery.

                                                    I'm not making some "lol asians look the same" joke. I'm saying indigenous people all around the world who live in close regional quarters basically look like the same collections of phenotypes, with like some minority of traits that might be more common here than there at best. True Japan is an island country and not exactly manmade borders, but even still.
                                                    People insisting on "nu uh we look WAY different from THEM" is a global phenomena. At least in the old world where "we're an immigrant/slave/native slurry" isn't in play.

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                                                    It gets especially silly when you factor in the Korean peninsula as likely one of the main ancient contributors to the peopling of the Japanese islands.

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                                                      First poster for Hellboy reboot

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                                                        Arrgh. He looks good in the part, and I'm sure it's going to be closer to the comics and it might be a really good movie.

                                                        I just wish Deltoro and Pearlman had been able to finish out their trilogy.

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                                                          siiiiiggghh It's so hard to feel excited if it's not Del Toro and Pearlman.

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                                                            Oh crap, this looks pretty good.

                                                            The strange part is that I can't unsee Officer Hopper though.

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                                                              Another one this time featuring supporting characters

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                                                                First trailer has dropped

                                                                Looks entertaining if nothing else hahaha

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                                                                  Bwahahahaha!!! That was hilarious.

                                                                  Okay, I'm looking forward to it now. Even if it's not Ron Perlman.

                                                                  Also, can anybody tell me what song is playing in this?

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                                                                    Bwahahahaha!!! That was hilarious.

                                                                    Okay, I'm looking forward to it now. Even if it's not Ron Perlman.

                                                                    Also, can anybody tell me what song is playing in this?

                                                                    Mony Mony by Billy Idol it's a good song

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                                                                      I was expecting something more gore-ish, with a more dry sense of humour…it'll take sometime to get used to this more of a Deadpool-ish style, but I'm in

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                                                                        I kinda miss Abe even though he was kind not very useful.

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                                                                          Mony Mony by Billy Idol it's a good song

                                                                          Which is also presently being used in Bumblebee commercials…....song has seen a lot of usage over the last few years for some reason.

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                                                                          I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                                                                            If I want to know more about this character what should I read/watch?

                                                                            I've seen the two Ron Pearlman movies but nothing else

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                                                                              If I want to know more about this character what should I read/watch?

                                                                              I've seen the two Ron Pearlman movies but nothing else

                                                                              There's been two animated movies. Maybe hunt those down. Then there's the comics, which have been collected into about 20 graphic novels, but the easiest to jump into is probably the Omnibuses they put out this year.

                                                                              https://www.amazon.com/Hellboy-Omnibus-1-Seed-Destruction/dp/1506706665/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1545565343&sr=1-3&keywords=hellboy

                                                                              There's four of them, (containing 67 issues total) and along with the two volume The Complete Short Stories will get you everything the creator did, in chronological order. (as opposed to publication order.)

                                                                              There's been a couple other miniseries and spinoffs, some by the creator, some by others, but that's for sure the best starting point. There's also Hellboy and the B.P.R.D.set in the 50's and that's semi-ongoing, and also a series of novels I know nothing about.

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                                                                                Thanks Robby, I see the animated movies are on Amazon Prime I'll probs check those out, might ask for the Omnibuses for my birthday, thanks again

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                                                                                  Is this really coming out in April? Wow.

                                                                                  Well the visuals are fabulous. The villainess isn't looking as fun as I'd hoped.

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                                                                                    Huh. Just now realizing this is gonna be the first R-rated Hellboy and, yeah, that trailer certainly shows it.

                                                                                    [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
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                                                                                      Looks like a mediocore cgi blockbuster fiesta.

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                                                                                        Looks like a mediocore cgi blockbuster fiesta.

                                                                                        You can never tell with movie trailers though, some look great and are horrible, like with Suicide Squad, and some look horrible and are great, like The first Kingsman movie

                                                                                        but I'm probs gonna see it regardless (I've got AMC a list so I get to see 3 movies a week for $20 a month….. so why not?)

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                                                                                          "Okay, we don't have Del Toro's visuals or Perlman's charisma. But you know what we do have? GORE AND A-CUSSIN'!"

                                                                                          Complicating things since 2009.

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                                                                                            Well, if that trailer was the first ever Hellboy anything I'd seen I'd be excited about this new property that looks kind of interesting. There's some cool stuff in that trailer.

                                                                                            But… it's not the first Hellboy movie. so it just looks and feels like "Yeah, that's not Ron Perlman."

                                                                                            Its one of those Amazing SPiderman things where it's just... too soon for a full reboot new origin story. Yeah it's been 10 years since Hellboy 2 and 14 since Hellboy 1, and 2 ended going in directions they couldn't ignore if they did a sequel in the same continuity (namely Liz being pregnant) so I GET it, but...

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                                                                                                Poor David Harbour. You want to encourage him, and it looks like he's doing a good job, but he's not Ron Pearlman.

                                                                                                It's like poor Rami Malek. He apparently did a great job in Bohemian Rhapsody (even if the film wasn't that good), but Freddie could have been Sasha Baron Cohen. And that's all people think about.

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                                                                                                  No reviews yet for Hell Boy, it always makes me nervous when they wait this long on the review embargo

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                                                                                                    No reviews yet for Hell Boy, it always makes me nervous when they wait this long on the review embargo

                                                                                                    And rightly so. If they hold review embargo until release, it means it sucks and they don't want a slew bad reviews getting out beforehand. If they have any confidence they let the embargo drop weeks ahead of time.

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                                                                                                      @Robby:

                                                                                                      And rightly so. If they hold review embargo until release, it means it sucks and they don't want a slew bad reviews getting out beforehand. If they have any confidence they let the embargo drop weeks ahead of time.

                                                                                                      Audience scores don't always correlate with critic ones so it might end up being one of those that really pleases the general audience. Rare, but it happens. Although given its release date right in the middle of so many other blockbuster types (a week after Shazam and two or so before Endgame? Borderline suicidal for a film, one would think) I'm skeptical of its ability to generate anything like a decent box office opening. But hey, a grittier reboot than the relatively tame stuff from before? I'm open to that. Might have made for a better series, though. Netflix broke up with Marvel so why not try this out? They wouldn't have to put any restrictions on the sexual or violent content.

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                                                                                                        From early screening reports this movie is ALL violence. Like, offputtingly so.

                                                                                                        I was fine with the previous films being PG, they didn't need to be dark and gritty and super bloody… they were fun and entertaining and I liked the characters.

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