I loved that we found out a little more about the West Blue.
It´s underworld being dominated by 5 mafia groups says alot about the toughness of this Blue compared to weaker East Blue.
Bege being a guy who enjoys creating scenarios where other will slaughter them sounds threatening enough, but why he wasn´t the guy getting bored after taking down the other mafia heads makes me wonder, lol.
Chapter 857: Rook
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UnresolvedWeevil´s plan/Explaining DFs/Deal with Kuma-Bonney´s past/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan
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Something about all the strawhats moaning about how the "tea party" was full of conspiracy and backstabbings made me smile. I refuse to believe there wasn't an inch of self awareness on Oda's part.
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@Don:
I loved that we found out a little more about the West Blue.
It´s underworld being dominated by 5 mafia groups says alot about the toughness of this Blue compared to weaker East Blue.Oh yeah. After hearing that the East Blue is the weakest of the 4 so long ago, it's nice to see what's going on in the other Blues that makes them so much tougher. Only South Blue is missing at this point, and I assume we'll be getting that with Bonney at the latest.
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Loved the god father references with the beheaded horse and the making an offer you can't refuse!
@Count:
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I'm such a sucker for organized crime tropes. All Bege needs to do is pet a cat (Pekoms would do nicely) for me to switch over to a Bege avatar.!
Just wait for the next chapter, when Luffy and Bege meet:
Bege:"Buonasera, buonasera!"
Luffy:"Buonasera? What is that? Some Kind of Meal?"
He CAN pet Pekoms like that actually. His DF allows him to shrink persons, if they are Close enough to his Body. -
The style of humor wrapped around Jinbe this chapter was pretty funny. He picks up Chopper by the antlers and uses him like a phone, he's completely serious through the entire conversation. He adds Diesel and Brûlée to the group of 10 allies twice, even after they protest, still he's completely serious. I really like how there are a few absurdities surrounding Jinbe but he continues in serious-business mode, lol.
What really got me however was after all of that exposition detailing what kind of horrible person Bege is, along with half of the group expressing their dislike of the situation, Jinbe's like "glad you said yes cause I already set up a meeting!"
Jinbe had enough understanding of Luffy that he set up the meeting before hand and just burst out laughing when Luffy did exactly as he expected. Dude is a Straw Hat through and through. ^_^
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
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Just wait for the next chapter, when Luffy and Bege meet:
Bege:"Bonasera, bonasera!"
Luffy:"Bonasera? What is that? Some Kind of Meal?"I'm italian and I don't know what bonasera is
i do know "buonasera" though@RomanceDawn:The style of humor wrapped around Jinbe this chapter was pretty funny. He picks up Chopper by the antlers and uses him like a phone, he's completely serious through the entire conversation. He adds Diesel and Brûlée to the group of 10 allies twice, even after they protest, still he's completely serious. I really like how there are a few absurdities surrounding Jinbe but he continues in serious-business mode, lol.
What really got me however was after all of that exposition detailing what kind of horrible person Bege is, along with half of the group expressing their dislike of the situation, Jinbe's like "glad you said yes cause I already set up a meeting!"
Jinbe had enough understanding of Luffy that he set up the meeting before hand and just burst out laughing when Luffy did exactly as he expected. Dude is a Straw Hat through and through. ^_^
it's strange though since it was quite uncharacteristic for luffy to say yes..i mean he said yes to a temporary alliance with crocodile,but only after ivankov explained the situation and said he would keep him under control.. I was quite surprised that he was open to an alliance with someone like Bege
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I'm italian and I don't know what bonasera is
i do know "buonasera" though16 chars of Sorry
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What really got me however was after all of that exposition detailing what kind of horrible person Bege is, along with half of the group expressing their dislike of the situation, Jinbe's like "glad you said yes cause I already set up a meeting!"Jinbe had enough understanding of Luffy that he set up the meeting before hand and just burst out laughing when Luffy did exactly as he expected. Dude is a Straw Hat through and through. ^_^
Well, he witnessed that Luffy wouldn't get along with Croc at ID. But then Luffy agreed to team up with him in order to get out of ID. From there he might know that Luffy allies with not-so-Kind-persons for the greater good.
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Can I say that I think Sanji and Namiw ill end together at the end of the manga
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I think Capone is a really caring Mafia at heart, look at the final panel. HE GAVE CAESAR A FUCKING FINE SUIT!
Overall! Fucking well done Chapter.
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I think Oda is giving us what most of us complained about: A way out of this situation that doesn't end with Luffy taking down Big Mom before defeating Kaido.
Shifting some of the blame & a painted target that was sure to be on their backs moving forward had they ruined this all by their lonesome does making the Strawhats walking away from this without more than a little "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those rotten kids" from Big Mom seems way more plausible now with this Alliance between Bege and Strawhat.
That reminds me, considering how much Oda had Jinbe emphasize that Bege and Co have already made arrangements , I believe they must have a way to at least subdue Big Mom or else why bother? Which is where I think CC will come in, whose role as a chemical savant could be their trump card for incapacitating her at least long enough for them to make an escape…
Then again I highly doubt Bege is planning to walk away from such an advantageous base of operations like Totland. Especially if his endgame is to maybe replace Doflamingo as the new face of the underworld brokering network so prevalent in the New World.
The next few chapters will be very interesting to say the least.
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Well, he witnessed that Luffy wouldn't get along with Croc at ID. But then Luffy agreed to team up with him in order to get out of ID. From there he might know that Luffy allies with not-so-Kind-persons for the greater good.
Oh I'm not questioning the outcome or Luffy's/Jinbe's logic, just pointing out that I thought the situation was humorous.
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It did take an explanation from Jinbe about the benefits of allying with Bege - Luffy didn't agree as soon as Jinbe brought up the possibility.
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As far as The Big Mom Pirates continued incompetence, I think it's a nice balance compared to when we first met Pekoms and Tamago at Fishman Island, how subtly menacing they seemed and earlier in the arc where Luffy and co struggled so much against the Sweet Commander Cracker and was later overwhelmed by her horde of thugs before being locked in the prisoner Library.
They woulda had to make mistakes eventually and it's only natural that it's because of their own over confidence in the structural fortitude that'll be their downfall. Big Mom uses fear to rule her crew, plain and simple, her habit of smiting her children for anything from trivial to serious is what bred the apprehension of key information , even by her most loyal and capable soldiers I might add.
This has worked in our heroes favor to be sure , but I think it's refreshing that Oda is showing us a different side to the all powerful and influential Yonko. Big Mom has gotten lazy and is resting on her laurels, especially how it pertains to her df ability. She is content letting her crew do a bulk of her leg work hence why these set backs keep happening.
She's kinda similar to Moria in a way and it's gonna come bck to bite her in the ass in the biggest way after her latest scheme literally blows up in her face.
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That reminds me, the page where Nami says "I won't forgive you" and an arrow goes through Sanji…..ouch.
(yes I know it wasn't played super seriously, but still!)Oh I think it was pretty serious, her eyes were dead set. Sanji will have to have a moment with her later on in the arc because nami beat the shit out of luffy in front her eyes, luffy forgave him already but nami thought he went too far and im glad oda didnt just have her forgive him right away.
We might get a "This is my real family/apology speech" by sanji at the wedding and nami will forgive him then. Important to note the only other person who said those exacts words was iceburg, who forgave franky after that.
Anyone else excited to know onky 5 hours left til the wedding
I cant see this ending in only 15 chapters
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Lol Big Mom continues to look stupid.
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bad feeling about capone, but luffy needs all help he can right now.
It was so cute how jimmy picks up chopper to talk to Luffy. HOPING HE JOINS THE CREW WHEN THIS ARC IS DONE
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there is something i dont understand about bege's plan. how was he thinking of defeating big mom by himself? he is now allied with jinbe-strawhats, but obviously he already had everything set up for his crew to attack during the tea party. so what was his plan? persuading other members of big moms crew or powers present at the ceremony maybe?
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I'm still completely lost as to how the crew intends to resolve the Zeff hostage crisis. Crashing Big Moms beloved tea party with a side order of massive betrayal doesn't seem like a solution.
Germa will probably end up protecting them.
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Just wait for the next chapter, when Luffy and Bege meet:
Bege:"Buonasera, buonasera!"
Luffy:"Buonasera? What is that? Some Kind of Meal?"I'm italian and I don't know what bonasera is
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… He adds Diesel and Brûlée to the group of 10 allies twice, even after they protest, still he's completely serious...
Makes you think whether Diesel and Brulee is really 2 of the ten. Maybe he has some other 2 in mind.
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I wonder about that too, but there isn't really an obvious choice. So right now, they're just trying to save as many people as they can in their immediate vicinity despite the risks. It's probably going to be one of those lucky miracle turnouts when all of the wedding chaos probably spirals into Big Mom forgiving Luffy. Although I'm just hoping that instead of them being on goody-goody terms, Luffy makes Big Mom a deal she can't refuse by somehow gaining leverage that convinces her to let both the Straw Hats and Zeff go.
But hey, maybe something related to Zeff can come up in the next chapter where we're bound to learn more details about Bege's plan (unless Oda pulls a Fishman Island and decides to skip out on showing specific planning details until it's already starting to unfold).
Like kidnap her only way to Pirate King :ninja:
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there is something i dont understand about bege's plan. how was he thinking of defeating big mom by himself? he is now allied with jinbe-strawhats, but obviously he already had everything set up for his crew to attack during the tea party. so what was his plan? persuading other members of big moms crew or powers present at the ceremony maybe?
It was said in this chapter that he goes after the boss only and leaves the crews intact. So maybe that seastone spear he has was going to be used on BM at the wedding when she doesn't pay attention?
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@Galaxy:
Here's the Jaimini's Box version.
you should fire your proofreader
page 6:
- How's are things on your side
- Ponegylphs page 8:
Brook: you bald idiot (MS says –-> you simpleton) ?????
page 14:
as you already know, BM's plan is murder the whole Vinsmoke family…
either the word TO is missing right after IS, or their should be : after IS but if you do the latter, then murder needs to be spelled with a capital M
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Brook: you bald idiot (MS says –-> you simpleton) ?????
IIRC "Baldy" is an insult in Japanese that's used even when they don't have hair(?)
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I'm still completely lost as to how the crew intends to resolve the Zeff hostage crisis. Crashing Big Moms beloved tea party with a side order of massive betrayal doesn't seem like a solution.
So I wasn't the only one bothered by it? Good to know. I also had the same when Sanji explained why he couldn't go back for now and it was shrugged as Sanji hiding his feelings.
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Excellent. Now all I need is Jinbe came up with a name for the plan XD
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there is something i dont understand about bege's plan. how was he thinking of defeating big mom by himself? he is now allied with jinbe-strawhats, but obviously he already had everything set up for his crew to attack during the tea party. so what was his plan? persuading other members of big moms crew or powers present at the ceremony maybe?
Well we're not supposed to know that right now of course
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Lol Big Mom continues to look stupid.
overstatement considering they foresaw SHs coming and have contingencies in place. I assume this will be the case as well.
SHs got lucky w/ a lot of the stuff.
This arc is going exactly as I'd imagined it would. Though i expected someone else to join to stand a chance. And I love that Bege thinks he could take out Jinbei, Luffy, Sanji and Pedro
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I think the reason Bege is so confident is because he has got the 3rd sweet commander on his side. I could see Oda introducing him as Bege explains the plan to the SH
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She wasn't even in this chapter, stupid.
That's what I'm saying she doesn't even need to be in chapters to look stupid. Makes me think about the other Yonko.
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I do love the smell of assumptions in the afternoon
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I do love the smell of assumptions in the afternoon
Smells just like Coffee.
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The style of humor wrapped around Jinbe this chapter was pretty funny. He picks up Chopper by the antlers and uses him like a phone, he's completely serious through the entire conversation. He adds Diesel and Brûlée to the group of 10 allies twice, even after they protest, still he's completely serious. I really like how there are a few absurdities surrounding Jinbe but he continues in serious-business mode, lol.
The lost character trait finally reappears again, Jinbe gains quirkiness fitting for the crew.
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The lost character trait finally reappears again, Jinbe gains quirkiness fitting for the crew.
He had quirkiness before hand with faces being a good straight man (Then again every SH is a straight man with Luffy lol)
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you should fire your proofreader
page 6:
- How's are things on your side
- Ponegylphs page 8:
Brook: you bald idiot (MS says –-> you simpleton) ?????
page 14:
as you already know, BM's plan is murder the whole Vinsmoke family…
either the word TO is missing right after IS, or their should be : after IS but if you do the latter, then murder needs to be spelled with a capital M
The three small typos are valid, but Bald Idiot is a valid term.
I'll pass things along in regards to fixing those.
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@Galaxy:
Bald Idiot is a valid term
Reference? 16ch
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The Whole Cake Island Arc has had an abundance of creative ideas, but some decisions Oda made were not that good(for instance I would have expected the Mirror World to be far more developed… :wassat: ).
But this chapter definitely represents a height of the arc. The final page with Capone waiting is one of those moments which, at least to me, feels already very iconic. I very much liked the exposition regarding his background, which in the midst of the obvious and spot-on Godfather reference also gave me this dark, grimmy feeling we had when Doberman revealed Rob Lucci's past. The fact that we now seem to (at least temporarily) go for an alliance with him is a very good surprise. Luffy decided to go for realpolitik with regards to Capone.
Even though the idea that Big Mom will take out Bege while she ravages is far more superior to me than any idea which says that this will be an alliance which lasts beyond the wedding. The general conclusion many members arrived at is that Luffy and Big Mom will end this arc with a rather amicable truce. So the story will probably take another jump from where we are now (Big Mom is currently the "enemy") and shift to the scenario where Mom will again be more trustworthy. So the idea that the alliance will set in motion Big Mom's rage with Capone, but that Capone will be a victim of that rage makes sense. For me, this is the most likely scenario now.
Jinbe's explanation is also good. Oda achieves a maximum of fun and he does it precisely because Jinbe maintains his stern attitude.
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Bege was always the supernova i cared about least. Good to see Oda is giving him more depth.
This was a good chapter and stepped the arc up in my ideas. Good to see we are moving from the Sanji stuff to more meatier territory.
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What i think will happen is that Mom knows Beges little backstab plan and somehow fuck it up and Bege will not go forward with the plan buy Luffy with say that his crewmate wanted this and create chaos anyway and force Bege to act.
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there is something i dont understand about bege's plan. how was he thinking of defeating big mom by himself? he is now allied with jinbe-strawhats, but obviously he already had everything set up for his crew to attack during the tea party. so what was his plan? persuading other members of big moms crew or powers present at the ceremony maybe?
He is the security, he could let everybody he needs enter the party. He could have arranged some agreements with underworld guests. He probably has some part of the BM family with him. He definitely has Caesar. He now has Luffy & Co.
The fact also that Jinbe decided to mutiny against Big Mom after talking with Pekoms about Bege's plan make me think that even Jinbe thinks that Capone has a real chance on defeating her.
For what we know Gang is a mastermind and I hope Oda plays his cards well cause this arc could end as a Masterpiece or a big piece of crap. I hope it's the first.
For the Zeff kidnapping thing, if BM is defeated and Vinsmokes saved it would not be a problem anymore. If BM stay alive, let's see how Oda thought about it.
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This chapter was everything I wanted it to be and more! My man Bege is finally entering the main stage:
-I still feel bad for King Baum every time we see his lifeless corpse. Poor guy, he did nothing wrong.
-I like Nami not being so quick at forgiving Sanji, she was pissed off the most when he fought Luffy after all.
-Jinbe using Chopper as a telephone of sorts hahaha, his humor was on point this chapter. I love when it he does ridiculous stuff while keeping the straight-man act.
-Something people had been speculating about since Big Mom's Tea Parties were first mentioned was whether or not people outside of her family/crew would be invited. Well, here we have the confirmation for it being the case! I can't wait to see Potato Starch and other freaks, one of this arc's strongest points has been character designs. Maybe we'll get to see whoever is left to be shown from the brokers who watched Caesar's experiment…?
-We finally get some background on Bege. He used to be a mafioso leader, that much was obvious. But it seems Bege doesn't care about territory or fame, he just takes whatever he wants from his dead enemies, sits back and enjoys the ensuing chaos. I didn't expect such sadistic tendencies from him, but I love it! He did shoot Pekoms to his "death" with a smile on his face. One of my favourite things on this arc has been how Oda has hyped up both my favourite supernovas, Bege and Urouge, who were kinda looked down on by the fanbase.
-Luffy is going to work with Capone to crash the wedding, I knew it. What I didn't expect was for Capone to be in charge of the security. It makes sense, but Big Mom should know about his background, I hope she's not as naive so as not to have any kind of security net. The panel with Bege laughing on the background is pretty awesome.
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It's nice to get some info on another one of the Blues after Law's flashback, it certainly seems to be way more dangerous than East Blue.
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Jinbe had already contacted Bege, I certainly didn't see that coming. I bet the 2 votes in favour of the alliance are Jinbe and Pedro's.
-Vito was the one to take out Bobbin with his Monster Gun. Expected. He's been shown to be pretty competent so far.
-I love the final double spread, Gotti looks way better here than he did in his previous appearances. About the Caesar lookalike, even if it isn't him, he may have an important position in the Firetank Pirates seeing how the spread is laid out, as he is shown sitting alongside Gotti and Capone.
All in all, a chapter well worth the break. Luffy and Bege's unlikely alliance is bound to have a few hiccups, I hope the wedding doesn't disappoint, as it has all the ingredients necessary to make a fine meal.
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I have the feeling that people seem to underestimate some of the Supernovae, including Bege. Don´t get me wrong, it is understandable when comparing Supernovae to Yonkou, but this is not an open conflict, army vs army (like Whitebeard vs Marines or pirate-mink-samurai alliance vs Kaido), this is an inside job, I mean infiltrating an organization and destroying it from within, utilizing an insider´s intel and exploiting weaknesses, catching the other side off-guard etc., basically people are more susceptible to being hurt by the ones they care about or trust than an outsider.
For me, if there is one person on the island who is able to create a bloodbath in a room full of people, at a wedding ceremony, it´s Bege.
On one hand, we still don´t know the full extent of his power and guns and cannons haven´t been showcased as dangerous as devil fruits or physical strength of certain characters, but still. If Pudding has a gun capable of piercing Germa armor, chances are she is not the only person with access to such a weapon.
For all we know, Bege could have hundreds of underlings with such weapons inside him, or Pacifistas or whatever we can imagine. If Bege and Franky were pals, oh man…Then he seems to be able to use Color of Observation, which is rather rare lately. I am talking about how he pinpointed Sanji and co. in a place full of very strong Minks, then the whole scene with Caesar hiding up in the trees and maybe the portion with "a nearby monster" (Nekomamushi), if I recall it somewhat correctly. This allows him to read people and catch them off guard.
But until this chapter I was only thinking about his offensive capabilities, but Jimbei was talking about his impenetrable defense. We know he´s a walking castle/tank. But I wonder, what happens if you try to punch Bege or shoot at him? Say Luffy G3 Elephant Gun. Would Luffy´s fist turn into a miniature version before connecting with Bege´s body, losing its power, or would Armament bypass that "aura"?
Last but not least, Bege has already been showcased as a schemer who picks his fights. He is not Luffy who proclaims his future PK status and directly confronts a big-shot without a second thought.
The fact also that Jinbe decided to mutiny against Big Mom after talking with Pekoms about Bege's plan make me think that even Jinbe thinks that Capone has a real chance on defeating her.
This. Somebody as experienced as Jimbei considers it a big deal that Bege has planned this for so long. It´s safe to say Bege would not attempt this if he wasn´t confident he could pull it off.
Anyway, my line of thinking for the wedding ceremony right now is Bege "storing" Luffy inside his castle. I do believe Bege has a realistic plan to off BM considering his personality, but I don´t think BM is actually going to die, but at the very least her family will fall apart, reducing her threat level considerably to the point where she no longer can do as much evil as she pleases.
If somebody was to die, I would predict Judge, protecting his children (best creations), allowing Reiju to have a free will, among other things.
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All in all, I have many harsh words for Wholecake Island, but this is a nice way of reaching the conclusion. I really like Bege even more now that I know that his mafia style isn't just a reference, but an actual practical aspect of his character. I still picture him speaking like Don Vito. All that melodrama with Sanji last chapter got on my nerves, but to see him and Luffy basically being back to buddy-buddy stuff is great.
The NamiXSanji fanfiction community is squeeling in joy right now. Even as somebody who's staunchly against pairings in Shounens, I thought they had a really cute moment this chapter. I hope Sanji will get a hug at least when it's all over. Lord knows he deserves it. A nice chapter on it's own, I wasn't annoyed with it like I've been with the past 4-5.
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[hide]@Maju:why would big mom invite so many of his allies on a cerimony that basically screams "i'm untrustworthy"
From my perspective, it seems it is not a matter of trust. Whomever is invited has no other option but to attend, unless they have no qualms about disrespecting Big Mom. The sacrifice in her tea parties could be something recurring, but no one knows besides those who come. Hence why Germa would be blind to the fact, or if they were, they might have expected either Sanji, or someone else to be the victim.
that's one of the main point i don't like about this arc,everything involving the marriage just doesn't make any sense…from big mom waiting for a cerimony that will not happen to both open the tamatebako and and eat the cake
We as readers know the ceremony will not happen. Capone plans to ruin it, but from all perspectives around Big Mom, the wedding is happening. Especially if it is revealed that she knew about Capone's scheming. Even if she does not, I am sure she is confident that she can quell any uprising, considering she has her strongest subordinates gathered.
to her needing a surprise attack to kill the vinsmokes when they are literally trapped in her country and can be attacked at any point, espcially from someone with the resources of a yonkou.
I could agree to this, unless the soldiers are not invited to the wedding. If none of the soldiers attend, and are just waiting back in Germa, then it makes plenty of sense to wait for the ceremony, where they'll be separated from their forces. If Big Mom launched an attack now, she would have to deal with Germa soldiers and the Vinsmoke, and they could destroy the technology if things get dire.
they are business partners at worse anyway, still not the kind of audience i would want to show how much untrustworthy i am…even if the yonkou are the biggest feeding hands in the new world, all that profit is not worth the risk of dealing with a woman that it's basically admitting that her word has no value.
But that is the thing, they have no choice. If they rebel, they get destroyed, it is as simple as that. In a strange way, the only word of value that matters is her deciding to eradicate you or not. She always struck me as someone that had enough power to make anyone do their bidding. "You may live, if you do as a say, for as long as I decide to"[/hide]
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[hide]@Daz:I'm still completely lost as to how the crew intends to resolve the Zeff hostage crisis. Crashing Big Moms beloved tea party with a side order of massive betrayal doesn't seem like a solution.
I do not think we will have a clear answer to that, until we see how things resolve. The more Big Mom forces are diminished the higher the chance that they will not waste resources to chase Zeff, whom owns a restaurant that can move whenever they want. Also if, Zeff is a previous Grand Liner, Big Mom might try to send someone to chase him, but he could prove to be hard to catch. And is she really going to send one of her sweet commanders out, when she almost got dethroned? More than Zeff, that has a believable way to escap with his ship, I find the fate of Fishman Island to be more pressing. Personally, I think Luffy is declaring his first territory this arc.[/hide]
Count:
[hide]@Count:I wonder about that too, but there isn't really an obvious choice. So right now, they're just trying to save as many people as they can in their immediate vicinity despite the risks. It's probably going to be one of those lucky miracle turnouts when all of the wedding chaos probably spirals into Big Mom forgiving Luffy. Although I'm just hoping that instead of them being on goody-goody terms, Luffy makes Big Mom a deal she can't refuse by somehow gaining leverage that convinces her to let both the Straw Hats and Zeff go.
I think Luffy will threat Big Mom at the end of the chaos. I really do not see how this can still end on good terms or why the Strawhats would help Big Mom as you were proposing before. Are you still behind the combo healing?[/hide]
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I like the scene where Sanji regrets making the crew worried while touching his forehead. Seems like he was coming out of a bad headache/dream.
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It finally starts, the Strawhats devising a plan as wedding crashers. Some of them could be with Capone, the others could come from the mirrors. The possibility of the crew and Big Mom ending on good terms gets slimmer. Unless Oda is planning to reveal something we are not aware of. With Pekoms' words in mind, I feel we are all dancing on Big Mom's palms, or even if she is not aware of the plan, her ability to overcome. As others have shown concerns on Linlin making Bege the head of security, she might just be losing her edge.
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The several underworld emperors should finally reveal most, if not all of the people that were teased in Punk Hazard. Which by having watched the events could potentially ally with Bege and Luffy if they are not pleased to be at the whim of Linlin. The fact the Jimbe so casually keeps talking even when Diesel and Brulle are yelling is priceless. To anyone whom doubted his presence among the Strawhats, I hope the interactions that we have seen in the recent chapters finally convinced you otherwise. Can I get a Chopper phone, please?
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Bege's power are indeed interesting. We have seen him gain wheels like a tank. Could he be able to make castles, or is his power really related to awakening. If so, including Big Mom and potentially other ministers, then Luffy will gain a lot of experience on what makes a devil fruit user awaken, and he could apply it to his battle with Kaido.
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I wonder if Luffy's quick reply about joining forces with Bege were due to him NOT wanting to make their own plan. I am glad the question about whom shot Bobbin was answered right away. To keep from speculating about more betrayers within Big Mom's crew. Although that is still an option. I am glad, this development revolved around Bege, and not him being a pawn.
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I do not think Luffy is getting that tooth back until we reach Wano.
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Am I the only one that doesn't feel anything special about the Nami scene this chapter?
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Count:
[hide]I think Luffy will threat Big Mom at the end of the chaos. I really do not see how this can still end on good terms or why the Strawhats would help Big Mom as you were proposing before. Are you still behind the combo healing?[/hide]
Totally. It's sort of affirmed in how Bege is clearly set up to be someone we're meant to dislike an have a problem with. There's no way this alliance is going to be successful or sustainable. Bege needs a comeuppance more than ever. But I am really glad that we're exploring how Luffy can be able to be persuaded to work with ethically dark people to a certain relative degree as a way to spice up the suspense of the arc rather than just having the Straw Hats be lucky fools or Bege just being a minor antagonist.
Also, that spread of the Firetank Pirates puts the Heart Pirates to shame. Law should be embarrassed.
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Am I the only one that doesn't feel anything special about the Nami scene this chapter?
Same. It was sort of an okay joke. I would've preferred if it had more emotional weight behind it, but I don't really care.
