I just assumed they'd make Chopper's human form a regular human and have him in that form most of the time to save money outside action scenes.
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It's both hilarious and impressive how casually you throw these details around. I bet that's a great party trick whenever someone starts to talk about movies
.So they could maybe do it for Arlong… but they know they'll have to deal with Jinbe down the line so they may want to keep that practical to future proof it. They will do SOMETHING practical, with digital enhancement. Wheel of Time is doing some cool animalistic trollocs, maybe something along those lines.
Do we know that they really intend to go all the way? Not necessarily hitting every minor arc (I imagine they will skip Foxy :sad:), but most of it?
I wonder what they will do if this isn't successful enough. Sure the brand alone will carry to some degree, but picture a GoT-style fiasco where they just have to drop the show for whatever reason.
Maybe the timeskip would be a fitting cutoff point if they have to, which would already cover what… 5-6 years of runtime?
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I'm excited. And I don't expect a 1:1 adaption. That's insane. Neither in story, nor in how the characters look like. Japanese anime film adaptions do that, and it looks like cosplay. Do whatever changes are necessary, but if you include some wacky elements, then I'd prefer if they acknowledged them. Sanji wearing a suit on board a pirate ship? That's fine, but let someone make fun of it or smgt.
I also expect Luffy's rubbery attacks to be really quick, like Gear 2nd quick. Then you don't need to spend as much time on making the stretching look good.
Do we know that they really intend to go all the way? Not necessarily hitting every minor arc (I imagine they will skip Foxy :sad:), but most of it?
They have to cut stuff and make significant changes. I love Skypeia, but that's too much of a side quest and possibly too expensive. Thriller Bark is also somewhat side-questy, but you need Brook, so they would need to tone it down a lot. Fishman Island is also a problem.
Amazon Lilly, Impel down and Marineford I think need to be rewritten. You just can't sideline the other actors for that long. And the scale is an issue.
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Only the truly popular Netflix shows get past season 3 (the algorithm says that's generally when viewers drop off) so they will probably build in some kind of conclusion when they hit that point, just in case.
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Do we know that they really intend to go all the way?
They obviously INTEND to go as long as they possibly can. But they'll very likely build in clean stopping points between seasons just in case.
Not necessarily hitting every minor arc (I imagine they will skip Foxy :sad:), but most of it?
They're doing all of East Blue in 10 episodes. Its not going to be the anime. I imagine Crocodile arc Alabasta would be all of season 2, including Drum and Little Garden if they do those. Skypeia is… an easy edit to make given it would need extensive unique sets to make work... but it also wouldn't be 45 episodes long like it was in the animation.. more like 5.. (Hour long episodes, granted.)
They could easily get to the Time Skip by season 5 and 50 episodes, rather than the 500 episodes the anime needed. I have no idea how theyh would handle say, Amazon Lilly/Impel Down/Marineford, because they won't want to scatter the cast for a full season but... those will all be easier to figue out when we see just how they're abridging the earlier stuff.
Tone down the scale and "going the distance" makes a lot more sense.
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I truly believe Chopper will be a mix of LucasFilm-Henson animatronics and CGI for his brain point form. In scenes where we can't see his face or he is filmed from a distance, he'll be an animatronic. When they need him to emote and be front and center, he'll be mostly CGI.
His heavy point will be some guy in makeup with prosthetics. Think the Grinch or Harry from Harry and the Hendersons, but more refined.
Walk point will be a real reindeer…or a deer that will be spruced up to look like a reindeer.Another alternative for Chopper is casting a child actor for the role (with an adult taking the heavy point role), although I'm not sure if that's viable in the long term.
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Don't see the point of the show if they just do a 1:1 retelling of the manga but in live action. We already knew some gags wouldn't fly.
I'm fine and even welcome liberties being taken, as long the spirit of the series is here and the characters feel like themselves at core. ( Goku from Dragon Ball evolution being a prime example of taking too much liberties) :ninja: -
I actually didn't know this show was more than a joke before seeing this thread with the castings, but I'm positively surprised, I was a bit afraid we'd get an all-japanese cast despite Oda having his Charas based on other nationalities. I like Luffy and Ussopp, Nami and Sanji might be good, too. Agree on Zoro not looking masculine enough, tho. Maybe they'll give him more pronounced sideburns and a stubble, to save that, tho, that might help.
The budget is also kinda surprising, didn't think it'd be that high, kinda makes me hope it won't look as cheap as some anime-adaptations sadly tend to do.
also it feels really weird to see the talk about Wheel of Time here, both WoT and OP have been the two Series that I've been following for most of my life. Good times, good times.
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@lix:
Agree on Zoro not looking masculine enough, tho.
Are you talking about his face or his physical build?
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@All:
Are you talking about his face or his physical build?
Both, kinda. I was glad when the built of characters started to change because Zoro always looked too slim for what he was even on the manga, so I was hoping he'd start with a more fitting built in this series. His as for his face, I just have a hard time imagining Zoro looking this… K-Poppy.
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Both, kinda. I was glad when the built of characters started to change because Zoro always looked too slim for what he was even on the manga, so I was hoping he'd start with a more fitting built in this series. His as for his face, I just have a hard time imagining Zoro looking this… K-Poppy.
No offense to the actor, I just always imagined him to look way manlier.He is buff. Check out his performance in the Rurouni Kenshin movie and in another movie called Overdrive.
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He is buff. Check out his performance in the Rurouni Kenshin movie and in another movie called Overdrive.
His work in Rurouni Kenshin was amazing. If we can get something like that for Zoro I would be very pleased. I'm not normally interested in live action remakes but after thoroughly enjoying Kenshin I'm going to give this a shot. Hearing that many people that are working on this project are actually long time One Piece fans, Oda being involved and the fact that it has a big budget means this might actually be good.
I know they are filming now but what would be the release date? Is this known?
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Another alternative for Chopper is casting a child actor for the role (with an adult taking the heavy point role), although I'm not sure if that's viable in the long term.
I intentionally left out a child actor because, eventually, they'll outgrow the role. Maybe they won't care about Chopper's voice changing over the years, but having a cute-sy young voice is part of his appeal.
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Well, cowboy bebop has 47% on rt, so it doesn't look good. I hope that everyone that worked on that Have nothing to do with OP.
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Maybe we are going to see the OP version that was supposed to last 5 years
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Maybe we are going to see the OP version that was supposed to last 5 years
But that’s One Piece without Shichibukai. I gotta see live action Hancock.
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I know they are filming now but what would be the release date? Is this known?
No, unfortunately. Probably early 2023.
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Game of Thrones started shooting its second pilot (the one that actually aired) in spring 2010, a little under a year before it premiered on tv. So my prediction would be somewhere in the first quarter of 2023.
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It's both hilarious and impressive how casually you throw these details around. I bet that's a great party trick whenever someone starts to talk about movies
.Do we know that they really intend to go all the way? Not necessarily hitting every minor arc (I imagine they will skip Foxy :sad:), but most of it?
I wonder what they will do if this isn't successful enough. Sure the brand alone will carry to some degree, but picture a GoT-style fiasco where they just have to drop the show for whatever reason.
Maybe the timeskip would be a fitting cutoff point if they have to, which would already cover what… 5-6 years of runtime?
You could definitely restructure things around and get rid of Foxy Arc but I feel it could actually be really well received in live action if they do a nice and tight kind of job of shooting it. Plus it’s a big carnivalesque kind of thing
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We shouldn't go too far into worring about Long Ring Long Land as of now, not even about Chopper since he will not be part of season one.
And whatever they do with the Arlong Pirates is gon give us a good idea of what could Chopper and Jinbro look like anyways.
Also, they're totally going to skip things, is just 10 chapters so say good bye to Gaimon at least.
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We shouldn't go too far into worring about Long Ring Long Land as of now, not even about Chopper since he will not be part of season one.
And whatever they do with the Arlong Pirates is gon give us a good idea of what could Chopper and Jinbro look like anyways.
Also, they're totally going to skip things, is just 10 chapters so say good bye to Gaimon at least.
There's nothing to worry about though. As seen in the MCU for instance, but also in many other recent movies with CGI, the current technology is more than capable to create a believable chopper and Jinbei. For fishmen I think they'll go to a more realistic gritty look, at least that is my hope. I think because it is live action some of the comedy of the series might be lost which was, to me at least, also the case in Rurouni Kenshin. Oda's sometimes silly art can be difficult to recreate and fishmen should look somewhat menacing.
What I feel would be a difficult thing to accomplish is the height of characters. Oda himself is not really the best at this but at least he has a medium where it is easier to have a human be 3,5 meters or 4,2 meters tall. Will they keep the admirals or Doffy so tall or will they give them more acceptable real world measurements? I know Gimli in LOTR is a pretty big guy normally so it is possible but it is one thing to have one character like this but in One Piece there's no end to the weirdly large humans.
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There's nothing to worry about though. As seen in the MCU for instance, but also in many other recent movies with CGI, the current technology is more than capable to create a believable chopper and Jinbei.
I went over this on the previous page, but the issue isn't CAN they do it, because yes the CG tech is there now… but can they AFFORD to do it. Those films have 200-350 million dollar budgets for two hours of film.
THe tv shows have budgets of 10 million per episode for 10 episodes.... but that's like half what the films are spending spread over nearly five times as much footage. Since some of the money is also going to sets and powers and the crew and actors.... its not like they can throw all 10 million dollars at creating a CG character and having them on camera all the time.
The tech has limits and they're not going to make a regular character CG. They might be able to do it for a one off like say Arlong, but then they'll have to be aware that CHopper and Brook and Jinbe are coming... and they'll want and need something more practical for all of them.
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The 10 million budget is not confirmed. Even if the sentence was given by the CEO, who of course do what a CEO does and helps booster marketing, the exact words were purposely left uncertain such as "predict" and "could". We'll see but I doubt it really is on GoT's budget because of various aspects that we could talk about forever but just take it with a grain of salt.
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The series was specificly announced as being the most expensive Netflix project ever and meant to rival series such as GoT.
They ve been repeating those terms since the beginning, it would be pretty weird if they re actually working on a 100 bucks and a ham sandwich budget.To all the doubts one could have about the adaptation the fact that Netflix is throwing all the money they can at it shouldnt be one of them
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Money is nothing If You don't know how to use it. Like look at all the WB/DC fails that likely cost even more then Marvel movies.
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In the matter of height, what they did with Peter Dinklage in Infinity War doesnt seem expensive at all.
But looks kinda goody, I'd prefer everyone is real-world sized instead, except for the actual giants(Elbafs, Oars, Yeti Cool Brothers, Giant Marine Squad, etc)
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It's probably smarter to do something practical, but I'm not sure a CGI Chopper would be impossible to budget. It is super expensive, no doubt. But if they actually make it that far, they will invariably run into the problem of having too big of a cast anyway. The manga kinda doesn't handle it well nowadays (granted, the cast has ballooned way too much) and Oda did a marvelous job back in the day to juggle the crew that is not to be underestimated. I they play it straight (which they don't have to), by Alabasta, the Straw Hats (including Vivi) have 7 characters. That's a lot. Some of them will have to be in the background or straight up disappear for multiple episodes anyway. I don't envy them having to balance all that, but the longer this goes, the less regular the "regular" characters will appear.
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Another alternative for Chopper is casting a child actor for the role (with an adult taking the heavy point role), although I'm not sure if that's viable in the long term.
Child or dwarf, costume and makeup, CGI eyes and mouth.
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Moving this over from another thread:
Usopp has definitely got some black in him if it were the real world. What did Oda say, Africa? Ok white and black.
Not according to Oda? Did he come out in an SBS to explicitly say Usopp and Brook are not black?
I understand that this is not an one-answer situation, so that's why I only said "arguably", but point is that Usopp does have some characteristics which are could be said to be ethnically black even if his skin tone in the manga is light/white (and he would be born in Africa in the real world, although that doesn't strictly mean he would be black). Not surprisingly, the Netflix live action cast a black actor for the role, and nobody (or at least not many people I've seen) are surprised by this choice. The same can be said about Brook and his afro, and Jimbe and all the racial connotations of fishmen.
And that's interesting, because Hawkins was given the real world location of Egypt, yet I've never seen anyone casually call him a black person, even though Egypt is located in Africa.
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Chopper seems like more of an issue/problem depicting.
For Jimbe, just get get a sumo wrestler and paint him blue. Then add all of the practical makeup and costume design.
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They might make it to Chopper, but no way this show lasts long enough to make it to Impel Down. XD
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I wouldn't count it out, they rented the lot in Cape Town for 7yrs we're definitely getting a few seasons out of this
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Sorry to derail this thread but something just pops up in my mind; if this show ever get so successful and make One Piece even more popular in this country, will it ever get a musical version?
I remembered discovering about a TMNT getting a musical version back in 1990 called "The Coming out of Their Shells" and a 1994 film "We Wish you a Turtle Christmas" and how bad it was handled.Just imagine One Piece getting the same treatment such as having Akainu singing about killing pirates in the name of justice or Vivi in a desert background singing about her struggles or Luffy singing about being a Pirate King. Every popular franchise seems to get this treatment, there is even a SpongeBob musical.
And making 10 million dollars for each episode does seems risky but I'm curious to see how this plays. But I really don't want One Piece to become like Game of Thornes , having to taking itself way too seriously. I did watch episodes of them but that show can get boring when it takes itself way way too seriously. I like One Piece mainly because there is a balance. It can take itself seriously or act goofy most times.
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The Strawhats are together (bar Mackenyu he got lost lol) and the actor who plays Sanji cooked for them.
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The Strawhats are together (bar Mackenyu he got lost lol) and the actor who plays Sanji cooked for them.
[qimg]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEiqG6bVQAE0qFU?format=jpg&name=medium[/qimg]
[qimg]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEixrCrVkAAEcRt?format=jpg&name=medium[/qimg]Nice find there dude. That is sure funny
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Are they together in Cape Town or they are still in The US?
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Are they together in Cape Town or they are still in The US?
Iñaki Godoy and Taz Skylar dont even live in the U.S., so they're likely in the set already.
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The Strawhats are together (bar Mackenyu he got lost lol) and the actor who plays Sanji cooked for them.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEiqG6bVQAE0qFU?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEixrCrVkAAEcRt?format=jpg&name=mediumI'll say this for the Strawhat actors: They come across as a super-sympathetic bunch, which is exactly what you need for the Strawhats. And I love how into the series/show they seem to be.
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Aww everyone is bonding …
https://mobile.twitter.com/OP_Netflix_Fan/status/1462531297427947524
And look at our cowardly duo
Inaki is truly Luffy lol
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Oh, Cowboy Bebop is getting pounded by mixed reviews; largely which is negative. Will One Piece get this treatment?
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Nobody will know until it is released. Reviews don't matter as much as viewership in the end.
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Oh, Cowboy Bebop is getting pounded by mixed reviews; largely which is negative. Will One Piece get this treatment?
If they hire a crappy comic book writer as showrunner to provide Whedonesque scripts except with more edgy foul language, then yes.
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Cowboy Bebop imdb score has only increased ever since it came out. A 0.1 point bump every few days.
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Cowboy Bebop tried to stay faithful to the original stand-alone stories within the anime (even with the music largely recycled) but then heavily featured and changed the antagonist-side characters for the worst. It didn't really offer the anime fans a huge amount of new content to dig their teeth into while at the same time opening a can of worms, providing more screen time to the underlying plot fan favourites and changing their portrayals, one which was seen as 'problematic'. However they nailed the main characters. I was happy with how they portrayed Faye, Daniella Pineda did a really good job.
Those I've spoke to who never watched the anime seemed to enjoy it. The live action would obviously have higher ratings if critics went in blind. Season two is sure to happen.
With One Piece it's obvious fans will over-react to specific aspects being toned down such as Sanji being Sanji. Personally I would be very disappointed if they removed Sanji signature cigarette or Smoker's cigar.
Some of the more wacky characters won't appear for sure. I don't think Gaimon would add much to the story and not many fans would be sad to see him go either.I'm most interested to know who will handle the soundtrack. Tanaka's anime soundtrack has its trademark iconic themes that would be perfect re-arranged but not recycled. Possibly the worst direction would be is the Pirates of the Caribbean 'epic' generic orchestral soundtrack. It should be diverse like the characters and story.
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I think we may get vivi already in the first season. If IMDB is correct the last episode is called Grand Line so maybe they will finish the season at whisky peak introducing baroque works and setting the tom for what we can expect for season two.
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I think we may get vivi already in the first season. If IMDB is correct the last episode is called Grand Line so maybe they will finish the season at whisky peak introducing baroque works and setting the tom for what we can expect for season two.
I don't think it'll amount to more than them struggling with Reverse Mountain, I don't see us getting Laboon stuff until season 2.
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I'm interested to see who they cast as Shanks, Buggy and Mihawk.
I think if this is done right, One Piece could be huge. I mean who doesn't love a good Pirate adventure story with lots of fantasy elements, and moments that make you laugh and cry?
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Cowboy Bebop tried to stay faithful to the original stand-alone stories within the anime (even with the music largely recycled) but then heavily featured and changed the antagonist-side characters for the worst. It didn't really offer the anime fans a huge amount of new content to dig their teeth into while at the same time opening a can of worms, providing more screen time to the underlying plot fan favourites and changing their portrayals, one which was seen as 'problematic'. However they nailed the main characters. I was happy with how they portrayed Faye, Daniella Pineda did a really good job.
Those I've spoke to who never watched the anime seemed to enjoy it. The live action would obviously have higher ratings if critics went in blind. Season two is sure to happen.
With One Piece it's obvious fans will over-react to specific aspects being toned down such as Sanji being Sanji. Personally I would be very disappointed if they removed Sanji signature cigarette or Smoker's cigar.
Some of the more wacky characters won't appear for sure. I don't think Gaimon would add much to the story and not many fans would be sad to see him go either.I'm most interested to know who will handle the soundtrack. Tanaka's anime soundtrack has its trademark iconic themes that would be perfect re-arranged but not recycled. Possibly the worst direction would be is the Pirates of the Caribbean 'epic' generic orchestral soundtrack. It should be diverse like the characters and story.
There is so much they can just cut out entirely. They're going through around 100 chapters for the first season. It's fine if they cut out the non essential stuff that doesn't advance the main story. as long as what we get is good.
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/cowboy-bebop-canceled-netflix-1235060256/
"‘Cowboy Bebop’ Canceled By Netflix After One Season - Exclusive: The streamer has canceled the anime adaptation of the space Western after its premiere less than a month ago."
"Netflix has canceled its ambitious, widely hyped anime adaptation Cowboy Bebop after just one."Not sure what exactly this says, but certainly not good things. Regardless of your thoughts on it, it's clear Cowboy Bebop was not well received at all either by critics or fans, and Netflix - despite prior investment - is not willing to let it figure itself out. With this being the other premier Tomorrow Studios/Netflix Production, I can easily see a scenario where One Piece is not renewed past a first season. Maybe the investment is on a larger scale where that's not possible (it seemed Shueisha and Oda and other interested parties have a lot of money pushed into it specifically to see it succeed on some level), but it definitely gives a sharp image of the kind of margins the show will operate on.
