It's a science series, and the question of "how a 6 person population can lead to a small village 3k years in the future" has to be addressed.
Dr. Stone
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Hmm. Well we know this hit everyone who was outside. But what about people in structures that had no exposure to air? Like deep inside buildings or underground?
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It's a science series, and the question of "how a 6 person population can lead to a small village 3k years in the future" has to be addressed.
but I don't want it toooooooo
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Unless it's deep ground kind of things, like missile silos and stuff, I doubt it, as it was confirmed that the internet was silent.
While a neet might take a while to notice, some other people like a meeting room or people in the subway would realize it faster.
We don't know if this event was something in the explossion or in the air though, but it seems to have been in the air and the explosion being unrelated or not the actual cuase, because the sparrows were already affected without any noticeable global event triggering it, and the space team did see the explosion without any ill effects.
They also might get to earth and fall prey to the stone effect.
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but I don't want it toooooooo
Well, too bad, if they didn't want us asking icky questions, then they wouldn't had set up the "only six" line here.
Well, other countries (russia, china or USA) might have a secret space base, but without this lucky crew composition of 3 and 3, that would lead to even ickier questions, or just extinction on less than 50 years.
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ISS Roundup:
-Byakuya Ishigami (Japan)
-Lillian Weinberg (U.S.? Probably? "Find yourself a nice Jewish girl, Byakuya")
-C. Lee (China- first name unknown)
-Shamil Volkov (…Russia? And dead ringer for Ginro, but with Kinro's personality)
-??? Yakov (also Russia? first name/initial unknown. Speech tic is "Oho!" Clear progenitor of the fat old white dude types in the village, though obviously everyone is everyone's progenitor given the insane amount of incest that presumably has to happen)
-??? ??? (??? ? Woman with short hair. Too short to read her nametag on title page)Hmm. Well we know this hit everyone who was outside. But what about people in structures that had no exposure to air? Like deep inside buildings or underground?
It's…possible? But the language in chapter 1 and chapter 42+43 is pretty darn clear: all of humanity on the earth.
The central mystery, as Maxter points out, is still "How does a primitive village of ~forty dirt farmers descend from six, 3,700 years apart?"
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Incest aside, does anyone else get the impression that someone on the crew might be involved with 4/20, the day the Earth got stoned? We just got a glimpse into the one known spot safe from the hardening, and several people with distinct designs riding on it. Granted there could be more safe spots, and the designs are there to make the connection the the descendants, but this is the first time we've seen anyone who might be viable candidates for the grand stoner (or someone who might be related to whoever that may be).
Most suspicious award goes to the conveniently-timed and noticeably characterized space tourist, Lillian Weinberg. Could be a red herring, though, diverting our suspicions from Lee, the other guy who was characterized. Well, next chapter we're probably going to get some more characterization, but I'm just throwing out the easy guesses based on the least possible information.
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They have the resources, might have the knowledge, but motivation is unclear.
One of the less nefarious reasons that comes to mind with the stoning experiment is to create a "cleaner" civilization, starting from 0 but with the advanced knowledge of the environmental issues that scale and greed can bring, because the way that the process works is way too convenient to be a "let's kill all humans!" kind of thing, too exagerated in scale to be a "I need to freeze this loved one until we find a cure", or a "Killer radiation/virus incoming, let me put mankind on pause to preserve it".
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Well, too bad, if they didn't want us asking icky questions, then they wouldn't had set up the "only six" line here.
maybe the side effect of the 4/20 incident (yes, Wagomu, that's now canon) in space is that everyone now reproduces by budding
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Hey, if humans didn't make it, who says that humans cell didn't? I'd guess none of them are fertility experts, but there is time, maybe they found frozen embryos and carried a few to term for biodiversity's sake. The issue is that would require akward decisions on the mothers part, like "carry the babies of 10 stranger couples for humanity's survival!!".
Yeah, the more I think about it the more I hope that they found a way to free people but limited in resources or conditions.
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Most suspicious award goes to the conveniently-timed and noticeably characterized space tourist, Lillian Weinberg. Could be a red herring, though, diverting our suspicions from Lee, the other guy who was characterized. Well, next chapter we're probably going to get some more characterization, but I'm just throwing out the easy guesses based on the least possible information.
Never thought about it this way! Could be. Hmm.
But Lee is the Chinese woman. The other one with actual characterization is named "Shamil".
The most famous Shamil in history seems to be this guy, Imam Shamil: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam_Shamil
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Hey, if humans didn't make it, who says that humans cell didn't? I'd guess none of them are fertility experts, but there is time, maybe they found frozen embryos and carried a few to term for biodiversity's sake. The issue is that would require akward decisions on the mothers part, like "carry the babies of 10 stranger couples for humanity's survival!!".
Yeah, the more I think about it the more I hope that they found a way to free people but limited in resources or conditions.
That would be interesting…
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Since it is a science manga I can't imagine them skipping over the issue of forming anentire village fron such a limited gene pool. They'll science their way to a solution
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Wait a flipping second.
China has never sent anyone to the ISS.So either Dr. Stone is set in an alt-history world where everyone gets along, or C. Lee is just American/Canadian/whatever. Shame on me for racial profiling.
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If everyone gets along, then Trump wouldn't be president.
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If everyone gets along, then Trump wouldn't be president.
Fair point. It's definitely our reality on Earth 1 :(
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We are in the darkest timeline DrStone!Trump is not a piece of shit.
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Two final observations for this week.
1. Astronauts are required to have perfect vision (maybe not Diva Lillian…?) yet Kinro and Suika have poor vision unrelated to aging. This is evidence against the "3,700 years of breeding starts with 6 individuals and gains no external gene pool diversity." ...Or there was so much incest that things swung in the other direction. But I like theory A better.
2. Boichi pays remarkable attention to real-world detail.
Soyuz Capsule:
Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan: -
Science data: Current theories about nearsightedness indicate that being indoors and reading is the leading cause of non genetic origins.
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Tater, one month ago: "hey, everybody, come read this really cool new manga"
Tater, this week: "I mean, it's still cool, but there's a pretty significant incest quandary we're trying to sort out at the moment"
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Honestly, heavy incest would not have lead us to healthy old dudes like… craftman old dude.
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Considering Boichi's comment in the TOC this week, he will be glad that people like CCC praised his research.
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Considering Boichi's comment in the TOC this week, he will be glad that people like CCC praised his research.
Sadly the man's not on twitter himself (just his "official" website profile which seems to be run by a French person?) but I'm still planning do a Japanese version of the tweets once it's not the middle of the night in Japan…
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Random nitpick:
Shouldn't the stone people coming back to life have introduced a whole new wave of diseases into the current population? Wouldn't the people from the past also be extremely vulnerable to modern mutations/evolutions of bacterial and viral diseases?
Also, if this population of humans has been around for thousands of years, why didn't they breed like crazy and take over the world? Is there something we don't know about that's stopping them?
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Random nitpick:
Shouldn't the stone people coming back to life have introduced a whole new wave of diseases into the current population? Wouldn't the people from the past also be extremely vulnerable to modern mutations/evolutions of bacterial and viral diseases?
Also, if this population of humans has been around for thousands of years, why didn't they breed like crazy and take over the world? Is there something we don't know about that's stopping them?
Big ass lions roaming around.
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Big ass lions roaming around.
Oh yeah.
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Only swallows turned to stone, a few days before humans. "Why" is a big part of the central mystery!
Senku is seen studying this in the flashback that is chapter 43.
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Big ass lions roaming around.
Not to mention what seems to be a law of isolationism in the community. There are communities today that have barely progressed in the same way, over many years.
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https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/dr-stone/en/0/43/page/1
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The flashback while necessary, is so far the least gripping part for me.
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Volume 4 cover:
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The blue thing just destroys the balance of the cover, it's reminiscent of some old (as in pre-80s) volume covers that had invasive jump branding. that is just for the digital comics, I hope.
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Yeah I don't think the blue stripe is part of the actual cover. Let's hope not!
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Reminds me of Tokyopop…. good old times.
By the way, the cosplayer in me has been wanting to do a cosplay from this series but man, Senku. What hair colour does he actually have? Early on it was blonde with black tips but now it seems to be grey/light blue with green/black tips.
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By the way, the cosplayer in me has been wanting to do a cosplay from this series but man, Senku. What hair colour does he actually have? Early on it was blonde with black tips but now it seems to be grey/light blue with green/black tips.
I see it as ivory with dark dark green tips, buuuut…
From boichi interview:
https://boichi.com/drstone/ask-boichi-dr-stone/Senku’s hair color is white, sometime I colored it yellow with a blue hue.
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Any info on when the first volume comes out in English?
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Any info on when the first volume comes out in English?
I've not yet been told if/that we're even doing volumes. One would assume, though.
When/if I do find out, I'll post here right away :)
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@CCC:
I see it as ivory with dark dark green tips, buuuut…
From boichi interview:
https://boichi.com/drstone/ask-boichi-dr-stone/Senku’s hair color is white, sometime I colored it yellow with a blue hue.
However, you might feel confused about his hair color because I’m not good at coloring. Really sorry about that.Brilliant thanks! I'll get to work on it.
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Ah, ok. Thanks. With how successful the series is, I'd assume so, too.
Are there any series released in the English Jump that haven't had physical releases?
Also, that blurb about the hair made me laugh. I saw people speculating that his hair changed colors after being in stone (Not sure if it was here or somewhere else), but it turns out Boichi is just inconsistent with it.
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The Manga's getting interesting and It's now Brains vs Brawns.
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Are there any series released in the English Jump that haven't had physical releases?
Cross Manage comes to mind. It was in English Jump & has digital english volumes, but never physical english volumes.
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Yah, but Cross Manage, while it wasn't as short-lived as the vast amount of 20-30 chapters series, it fizzled out by volume 5.
Baka updates say 31 chapters, but that might be just the scanlated ones.
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Cross Manage had 43 chapters total. I was just answering the question about if there was a series that was in English jump that didn't get a physical release. Wasn't trying to infer that it had any bearing on Dr. Stone getting physical or digital releases.
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Ok, no problem. I guess we'll learn soon enough.
Comparing with other Viz series, the Promised Neverland might give you a timetable for this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Promised_Neverland_chapters
All release dates of promised volumes are one year later than the Japanese release. With Black Clover having the same time difference and My Hero Academia being a little less at the start but followed the pattern in the latest releases.
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Personally I would love for Dr. Stone to get a physical release. I don't normally buy Viz releases physically anymore (buy them digitally instead) as most are pretty long and only have so much room but Dr. Stone is one I'd buy in a heartbeat because I've enjoyed it so much
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The manga is licensed in France by Glénat. It will be released on April, 4th. The Promised Neverland will be released by Kaze in the same month as well. Tokyo Ghoul :Re, My Hero Academia and Captain Tsubasa 2018 anime are returning in April too.
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Chapter is out at Jaimini box.
Happy now? The village itself is super incestuous, but Senku with them not.
Also they make the point that while science will always be reborn, see Chrome, but specific art once it is gone, is gone forever.
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I honestly hope more people managed to free themselves from petrifaction, otherwise this story just went into weird places.
Also, why make Senku and Byakuya not related? The only reason I can see a logical reason is if they're choosing to pair him off with someone and avoid the incest route. (the village is already confirmed to be inbred, so why care if Senku is blood related to them or not?)
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I wanna bet that the village is exactly opposite from ground zero, another clue from papa.
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So, after 3700 years they're just a village size!? they should be at least hundereds of thousands if not millions in population, with several other competing village and such.
I'll let it slide this time because this manga is more than enjoyable. Now that we're finished with the medicine plot, looking forward to what's next.