@Shobu:
Oi oi oi… i don't think Jaguar meat is something palatable. Also, can't be emergency food, he holds almost Zoro's bounty, not even Luffy can kill it to eat it.
Just add salt and pepper or ketchup, made out of his blood. Zoro's bounty is heavily undervalued. I am not surprised though, the government will judge wrongly or put a limit to bounties.
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@Tamiel:
Just add salt and pepper or ketchup, made out of his blood. Zoro's bounty is heavily undervalued. I am not surprised though, the government will judge wrongly or put a limit to bounties.
Regarding Zoro, you're speaking nothing but truth. I mean look at Cracker and Jack… they're shit but only for their captains they have that amount.
If you put ketchup on Pedro, a war will start inside the Sunny, Franky would like to make it a burger. Now that it competes with ketchup, i wonder if you can make mayonnaise with Tamago...
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@Shobu:
Regarding Zoro, you're speaking nothing but truth. I mean look at Cracker and Jack… they're shit but only for their captains they have that amount.
If you put ketchup on Pedro, a war will start inside the Sunny, Franky would like to make it a burger. Now that it competes with ketchup, i wonder if you can make mayonnaise with Tamago...
Tread carefully, you may spark some golf sauce enthusiasts to proclaim Tamago will be the next crewmate.
And I mostly speak the truth, I just hide it among nonsensical poopoo so only true believers may notice.
@Tamiel:
If Sanji ever hits a woman, it would probably be a slap. I could see it happening to Pudding. Nothing as drastic as a beat down, but a good slap could convey the message on how he is changing his views.
I could be game for that. But it would be way more hilarious than actually engrossing if he, of all things, slaps someone who is bragging about killing his friends, family, and himself lol.
The thing is, when mentioning Oda's track record, I actually don't remember a female villain ever acting as despicable and evil as Pudding in this chapter. Characters like the female Baroque Agents, Kalifa or Perona were part of an evil villainous group, sure, but they were just flunkies, you certainly never had any strong feelings of hatred towards them. But Pudding just completely betrayed and emotionally manipulated Luffy, Nami and Sanji in particular, and laughed in their faces at the thought of murdering Sanji and the rest of the Strawhats dying. The only other female character in the story who even came close to such a level of evil that I can think of was Monet. Monet was certainly ruthless, feeding little children drugs with a smile on her face. And did she get redeemed? Nope, she got her heart stabbed and was left for dead (I don't think she's actually dead, but still, a rather brutal end). The only chance for Pudding to come out of this arc unscathed would be the whole split personality thing. But if this is really her true character? I just can't see any way that she could be redeemed. She comes across as absolutely remorseless. Luffy even states in this chapter that he'll never forgive her either. I mean, Oda certainly didn't pull any punches in portraying her as a horrible human being this chapter.
And what I personally like about this development is that Oda really appears to me to have been playing with his readership's perceptions about his "track record" as you say. There were plenty of hints that Pudding was hiding something all along ( her hidden eye, for example) and that there was more to her than meets the eye, no pun intended. But the majority of people, me included, was still completely taken by surprise by the reveal in this chapter, and I think one of the reasons for why this twist worked was Oda's usual way of writing women. We had plenty of female characters in the story who seemed evil at first but turned out to be mostly good people (Vivi, Robin and Hancock, for example), but never the other way around. It was just easier to believe that Pudding was as nice and wholesome and boring as she appeared to be, because that just seemed more along the lines of Oda's common portrayal of pretty girls. So yeah, I'd be really disappointed if Oda went back on that. I don't want to Pudding to be redeemed at all, I'd much rather see her trapped in one of Big Moms books as a very rare three-eyed girl for eternity, lol. (Sadistic, I know, but I feel so betrayed by her, too :ninja:
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I understand how a character like Pudding is technically a new thing. But Oda has to eventually at least switch up the villainous personalities of his characters as well as up the ante as the series progresses. So Pudding more "hateable" alone doesn't solely strike me as being irredeemable. And even then, this was Robin's introduction:
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It's not as emotionally enticing as Pudding being an established character who we thought could be trusted in such a bleak arc for our antagonists, but Robin's introduction was literally showing up as the murderer of a supporting character we were supposed to like. Of course, as we should have known from oda back then if we had foresight, Igaram showed up alive on Alabasta. But at that moment, Robin sure did seem irredeemable and cold, did she not? And I even remember plenty of people being uncertain about Reiju having redeemable qualities even though I kept saying it was right in their faces with Reiju's introduction having her save Luffy's life and act courteous to Sanji's friends, as well as never verbally supporting her family's prejudicial dogmas.
I do agree with you that I really like how Oda played with our expectations, especially with keeping the third eye a secret to lure in some sort of suspicion and then use it as a visual hook to truly cement how shocking Pudding's betrayal and "true inner self" looks like.
Also, Monet showed absolutely no signs of being friendly towards the heroes or having any redeemable traits. Anybody who did and legitimately supported her as nakama potential was just into her tits and Logia fruit lol.
Luffy's also stated he'll kick Big Mom's ass all over the New World and will take down all four Yonko (despite only holding up three fingers for some weird-ass reason unless that's Oda's "subtle" way of telling us he'll only beat three). Somehow, maybe it's just me, but I doubt either of those statements will come to fruition. For an assortment of substantial reasons.
All in all though, we REALLY shouldn't bank too much on Sanji of all characters having a morally satisfying storyline for either himself or Pudding from oda's established track record, especially with Enies Lobby. If he sticks to his guns with Pudding and actually has Sanji overcome his chivalry for once, that's FREAKING SPECTACULAR. Seriously, it gets me a bit giddy because of how satisfying it would be. But as of right now, it's best to temper expectations and not get too invested off the bat.
Are there any more instances of Pudding and Lola seemingly having a nice and friendly relationship?
Not yet, no. But what sells me on it is the tone of how Oda presented Big Mom in that flashback with how oppressive she was. Pudding and Lola could easily have a tenuous relationship. Maybe even sold her out. But that juxtaposition with both Big Mom treating Pudding solely like a doll and psychologically manipulating her with a shadowy face saying "Just follow my orders and everything will be fine", as if Pudding needs to reassure herself she's doing the right thing, and then going out into the rain are practically flashing neon signs of internal conflict. I do think she is being honest about her betrayal and how she has at least convinced herself to feel about the Straw Hats as of right now. But plenty of developments and tensions could still develop up to the wedding and the chaos surrounding it, to the point where Pudding actually performs a triple cross and maybe even actually falls in love with Sanji. I personally wouldn't care for such a development, but it's still quite possible. There's no narrative purpose to have all of that dark and emotionally visual flashback page if all that character was going to amount to was "Hey, I'm just a horrible person to the end."
You could argue that Pudding might hesitate but still end up choosing a villainous path, which I would love. But Oda tends to write his villains pretty concrete when it comes to moral alignment.
@uniaka:
Sanji vs his family plot has to be solved, and locking them in prison seem the worst IMO. besides, with judge's relation with vegapunk, his life blueprint that vegapunk also has, clones, Sora the naval hero and comic stip with evil army, mystery of germa kids creation, superhuman experiment that needs to be explained, curly eyebrows, they are bound to play role in the future, not just lock them now in prison and end with them.
Locking them in prison won't teach them anything or us, they have to learn something that their ways are bad and learn to regret what they did to sanji and appreciate him, that's a good plot end to their family thing, solving their issues. Defeated and locked in prison they would still be some spoiled brats that like Royal status, their would still be in bad relation with the brother they kicked out, and oda bringing sanji's past only in chapter 800 must count for more then just 1 arc only beating them for the sake of action and no family issues solving.
If anything, sora that seems to be vegapunk only shows sanji will play a role in the vegapunk arc.
And with all their problems, sanji does fit with his brothers, they look like a family.
They can all play a role later in the arc or in the future without the Vinsmokes. It would be a bit disappointing if they all didn't get tackled in this arc, but a Vegapunk-centric arc could easily explain all of that. Just like how Haki was a weird random element until getting built-up for it explanation by Rayleigh.
WaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitWAIT. You're saying that we as readers can't learn anything from being inspired by their profound struggles and motivations of our protagonists and witnessing the detestable acts and corrupt philosophies of the antagonists if said antagonists are not redeemed? Seriously? That literally means that every other villain that has ended up in jail up throughout the series hasn't had any of their arc's moral messages be effectively conveyed. That means guys like Arlong and Hody should have been forgiven and convinced to change their ways. Seriously, who cares if they're still stuck up in prison or wherever else they may end up as long as they are prevented from committing evil? They've been portrayed to be irredeemable and nothing else, and thus have no convincible reason to be redeemed. Villains can stay evil, lots of them don't have reasons to want to change for obvious reasons. And forcing them to for the sake of it will only make the writing have less quality and be more distasteful, with Naruto being a prime example of that.
Maybe. He is said to use gadgets and tech like Vegapunk. But the seagull hat looks like Sengoku's too.
So if a character looks similar to his captors or torturers, they belong together? That is a VERY disturbing outlook.
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I still don't see Sanji hitting a woman, he has never really been critiqued for it hell in DVD Oda says Nani like it from him or some shit.
Oda/Sanji has been adamant about never hitting a woman and all that stuff, some way I see Sanji chivalry like Tenma core in Monster: "All lives are Equal"
@Shobu:
Oi oi oi… i don't think Jaguar meat is something palatable. Also, can't be emergency food, he holds almost Zoro's bounty, not even Luffy can kill it to eat it.
Good post above. Sanji will do what nobody can do... or in this case, can't do something that everybody can, open a fucking door xD
His bounty is bigger than Zoro's (380,000,000 > 320,000,000), not that it really matters.
Is Nitro suspicious to anyone?
He yet to even speak a word of dialogue yet even though he's been in multiple scenes when every other homie has sworn the power to talk, plus I can't trust him wearing that hat.
I still don't see Sanji hitting a woman, he has never really been critiqued for it hell in DVD Oda says Nani like it from him or some shit.
Oda/Sanji has been adamant about never hitting a woman and all that stuff, some way I see Sanji chivalry like Tenma core in Monster: "All lives are Equal"
…Oh my God. I can't believe someone compared that inspiring moral message with loads of philosophical depth portrayed in anthological tales ripe with conspiracy, psychological trauma, and the struggle to indulge in vengeance that only breeds a perpetual cycle of hatred with Sanji's BS chivalry underwhelmingly inherited from Zeff. XD
I'm not making fun of you at all, by the way. I'm just literally cracking up at how right you are with how Oda treats Sanji's chivalry as a character flaw that obstructs the main themes of risking your life for friends and dreams in One Piece. lol It's also always pleasant to see other people who have read/watched Naoki Urasawa's Monster.
His bounty is bigger than Zoro's (380,000,000 > 320,000,000), not that it really matters.
Cavendish's bounty is also bigger than Zoro's.
I was just trying to think of a character who basically pushed to break what he believes but in the end won't compromise what he believes and terms was the first that came to mind even though they are wildly different and yeah people got read Monster
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Does Big mom really aim to kill vinsmoke family? Or pudding is acting on her own..
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Does Big mom really aim to kill vinsmoke family? Or pudding is acting on her own..
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@Count:
You mean two weeks. :ninja:
It is technically next week somewhere now.
It since jump ships stuff early for the New Years we may get one before the very end of the year.
It is technically next week somewhere now.
I know. But I believe it'll happen the Monday after this Monday. Which is over a week if we're being technical. But feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Monday or not Monday, it still next week 7-8 days later.
Monday or not Monday, it still next week 7-8 days later.
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His bounty is bigger than Zoro's (380,000,000 > 320,000,000), not that it really matters.
Ah, that thing is very weird. I can be possibly wrong, but the bounties are very strange this days, some examples are:
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Plus the billion to Jack. I can't tell if grouped with Yonko makes it expensive… because of Bege and Pekoms and bad translations.
I get the captain of Nox pirates have an expensive bounty than his crew... but if one of them goes to Big Mom, in theory it should surpass the previous captain. Yonko commanders have sky rocket bounties and family got an upgrade too.
I don't know what believe D:
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@Shobu:
Ah, that thing is very weird. I can be possibly wrong, but the bounties are very strange this days, some examples are:
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I get the captain of Nox pirates have an expensive bounty than his crew... but if one of them goes to Big Mom, in theory it should surpass the previous captain. Yonko commanders have sky rocket bounties and family got an upgrade too.
I don't know what believe D:
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. Is it that you don't think that bounties of a crew added up can't equal or be bigger than the captain's? Because I don't see the problem with that, especially since that's already happened with the Straw Hats.
I don't think you need to be concerned regardless through since it's likely for Big Mom to have anywhere from 3-5 Billion Beli.
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@Count:
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. Is it that you don't think that bounties of a crew added up can't equal or be bigger than the captain's? Because I don't see the problem with that, especially since that's already happened with the Straw Hats.
I don't think you need to be concerned regardless through since it's likely for Big Mom to have anywhere from 3-5 Billion Beli.
I can't put it to any other crew but between Big Mom and Nox.
Pekoms was travelling with Pedro (higher bounty of Nox, pressumably), got an strong bond with him and pressumably was part of the Nox crew, then Pekoms joins Mom crew and gets a 330 millions, which is thanks to be part of a Yonko crew. Pedro has a higher bounty than Pekoms and it's retired from piracy.
Should not be Pekoms to have a higher bounty than Pedro? Bege, supposedly joined Lin Lin two years ago, when he got an amount of 300 millions, a newcomer in the crew but still with an upgrade on that.
It is not a problem to me either, bounties are overrated, but i say that it is rather weird because the importance of the Yonko for the World Government to ally with the marines and create the Shichibukai. Pekoms and Bege are kind of underrated on that, specially the former for the years of service.
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@Shobu:
I can't put it to any other crew but between Big Mom and Nox.
Pekoms was travelling with Pedro (higher bounty of Nox, pressumably), got an strong bond with him and pressumably was part of the Nox crew, then Pekoms joins Mom crew and gets a 330 millions, which is thanks to be part of a Yonko crew. Pedro has a higher bounty than Pekoms and it's retired from piracy.
Should not be Pekoms to have a higher bounty than Pedro? Bege, supposedly joined Lin Lin two years ago, when he got an amount of 300 millions, a newcomer in the crew but still with an upgrade on that.
It is not a problem to me either, bounties are overrated, but i say that it is rather weird because the importance of the Yonko for the World Government to ally with the marines and create the Shichibukai. Pekoms and Bege are kind of underrated on that, specially the former for the years of service.
Ooooohhhhh. I see what you mean. Well, there are two things to take into account. Pedro claims to have not wanted to be a pirate. He waned to explore and find Poneglyphs. Which is obviously a big no-no as seen with Robin's bounty of less than 90,000,000 for surviving Ohara.
Also, so what if Pedro's part of a Yonko crew? They might be a big name, but bounties are labeled based on threat level in a mix of strength, capabilities, and feats. Being under Big Mom doesn't change how, as an individual, his threat level is probably not that much more than it was with the Nox Pirates.
And Pedro being retired from piracy doesn't mean that one of his subordinates or even his first mate is going to surpass him in threat level. It all depends on what types of crimes Pekoms committed and how stronger he got. Strength is relative to characters, and everybody has a different ceiling. And all we've seen from him so far is that he goes around collecting candy tributes and people Big Mom wants to attend Tea Parties. Although maybe she had him decimate a country or two like Bobbin, Amande, Diesel, and Randolph, but that's already to be expect from someone with a bounty that ranks above 100,000,000 (as seen in how Kid, Law, and Hawkins have invaded territories and taken names in their own right before and over the timeskip).
For all we know, Pekom's bounty could have been much lower while with the Nox Pirates and increasing to over 300,000,000 with Big Mom, despite still not being on-par or above Pedro's, which would be a remarkable accomplishment.
There is a break? there's no writing on the chapter!
There is a break? there's no writing on the chapter!
It is a double issue from Jump, so there is no need for a warning that there is a break next issue.
I never trusted Pudding. Even though currently I wish for her to die, I'll withhold judgement until after we see more developments. Some wonder why she would blab so much before the wedding, as that wouldn't help them to assassinate the Vinsmokes. In fact, it would go against helping that very thing. If we use the Red Wedding as an example, there, they were tricked and killed, which is more effective than taunting that there will be death during the wedding. This is warning them before hand, or being stupidly over-confident. Even if Pudding may be acting with good intentions, I wouldn't trust her openly. I would be skeptical of her as I am skeptical of Little Finger. Sure, LF could be on my side 'now' but I'd have to be aware of his ambition and his willingness to side with … whoever? I forget who he usually would side with and for what reason, but he's a wild card to me. It's a bad sign that when I think of LF I think of Law. 0.0 (Luffy being Ned Stark and Law being Little Finger) I don't think Law would do that though. Also, that makes me think that a person like Little Finger is bound to lose because of his flaky nature.
@Count:
Same to you and your family, Kishido. If I'm correct, this will technically be your daughter's first Christmas. Congratulations. :happy:
Thank you very much but it was hard as fuck… All family wants to visit you and my mom has birthday as well... My little mellorine has now reached a technical K.O. with all this new stuff...
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I'm not a big fan of Pudding's Bond villain-esque musings to Reiju. Why exactly is she doing this to Reiju, and why explain her plan? If Reiju escapes and tells the rest of the Vinsmokes then all hell is going to break loose before the wedding even happens.
I was thinking that too. She stuck to her stick more than she needed to before, and now she drops it all at once like this? Doesn't make sense.
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Why did Pudding cry after annoucing her evil plan to Luffy and Nami? There was no one to fool anymore but… us, readers. And since obviously she didn't break the fourth wall, I wonder what those fake tears were for. If they were fake. This plot twist changes a lot. I thought Sanji would end up facing Germa, but it seems like they will end up allies in a battle against Big Mom. I guess Sanji should try warning his family right away - altough after all they did to him, I don't think their lives matter that much.The future is more interesting than ever. How will Sanji react to this? How are the other crew mates getting saved?Looking forward to the next chapters.
That's why I'm glad that aside from his sister, they've been established firmly as irredeemable. It's more unique to have two very evil sides fighting each other with Sanji stuck in the middle, with no chance of wanting to ally with either of them.
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the only way i can see this making any sense is some kind of devil fruit power linked to the eye…
like,the real pudding goes to "sleep" for a set amount of time leaving "another one" that she can program with a set of characteristics and then acts independently until it's time to "wake up"
that would explain all of those instances where it didn't really made sense for pudding to continue the act
that would also explain why he helped luffy reach whole cake island..there was no particular trap on the beach, and if they had knew long enough where luffy was they could have intercept him way before he was so close to sanji.
That makes alot of sense.
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Am I the only one who noticed Pedro spinning his tails to fly like Tails?
nah, I noticed it lol
I've been thinking, Sanji bet everything on his own sacrifice, starring at disappointment and doom right in the face maybe the catalyst that moves Sanji to the next level. Maybe all of this is good afterall.
Is it just me or is the Name from Baron Tamago the shortened version from Tamagotchi?
Is it just me or is the Name from Baron Tamago the shortened version from Tamagotchi?
Actually Tamagotchi is the combination of "Tamago" and "Watch" with Tamago meaning egg in Japanese.
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I remember the main character having two personalities in 3X3 Eyes (nice and innocent Pai vs cruel and proud Parvati)
it could be the same with Pudding.
I mean, why would she cry when saying "goodbye filthy rats" ?
Also remember this Osamu Tezuka series:
ok, so after re reading the chapter and read this thread i am gonna jump to "the evil third eye Pudding" camp. at least this could explain :
I am not sure myself …...................
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I hope she is simply evil. Love her that way
thats the only way to avoid the marriage so act like a villain to destroy the alliance of bigmom and germa. she sacrifice herself. its a plot twist in a plot twist we need
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thats the only way to avoid the marriage so act like a villain to destroy the alliance of bigmom and germa. she sacrifice herself. its a plot twist in a plot twist we need
to go deeper
That's what I'm thinking is going on. If that's the plan I guess telling the other strawhats that Sanji is going to die is to prevent them from being passive anymore and force them to take Sanji away.
That's what I'm thinking is going on. If that's the plan I guess telling the other strawhats that Sanji is going to die is to prevent them from being passive anymore and force them to take Sanji away.
This actually makes sense… but she is so evil and looking cool like this
@Kaido:
Actually Tamagotchi is the combination of "Tamago" and "Watch" with Tamago meaning egg in Japanese.
Actually Tamagotchi is the combination of Tamago and Tomodachi.
Pudding reveal is weird. I'm sure there's a couple of moment and plans that just becomes ridiculous if Pudding is evil.
Why the hell is Pudding running around telling everyone she's evil. Isn't that suppose to be a well guarded secret?
Pedro seems like a good fighter.
I don't think super fodders are so good that Big Mom should throw away her good name. No many will is going to want to marry into her family anymore.
Sanji should just escape with the crew. Big mom gets her clones and there is no more reason to kill Zeff.
Pudding reveal is weird. I'm sure there's a couple of moment and plans that just becomes ridiculous if Pudding is evil.
Why the hell is Pudding running around telling everyone she's evil. Isn't that suppose to be a well guarded secret?
Pedro seems like a good fighter.
I don't think super fodders are so good that Big Mom should throw away her good name. No many will is going to want to marry into her family anymore.
Sanji should just escape with the crew. Big mom gets her clones and there is no more reason to kill Zeff.
The theory I've favored, and seen sprinkled about here and there on my way to this page, is that Pudding is pulling a double-bluff and trying to trick everyone for precisely that reason of screwing up Big Mom's rep.
I've felt for a long time that Pudding had the potential to be a Spanner in the Works regarding everyone's plans, since she's central to so many of them. Now, whether she's genuine about her evilness or not, she's fulfilling that role. If she's genuine she just exposed herself in front of Sanji without knowing it, and not in the sexy way. Sanji called her his Ray of Hope because she as the only good thing in this effed up situation. Now that's no longer true and he has lost a major reason to cooperate.
If she's bluffing, then it could well be that Pudding is plotting to put an end to Big Mom's arranged marriages by damaging her reputation beyond repair. She may not realize how potentially suicidal that is, or she does and it's not stopping her. It also has the added benefit of keeping Sanji and the Straw Hats out of the crossfire, since the consequences will fall on her.
Bluffing also explains the single biggest issue I have with her being for real: Why tell Reiju? That entire scene could've played out with one of her siblings almost exactly the same way, but Oda used Reiju, someone with a vested interest in stopping the plot Pudding just described. If she's bluffing, and is out to disrupt things as much as she can, then telling Reiju, and roughing her up of needed, serves her purpose.
The theory I've favored, and seen sprinkled about here and there on my way to this page, is that Pudding is pulling a double-bluff and trying to trick everyone for precisely that reason of screwing up Big Mom's rep.
I've felt for a long time that Pudding had the potential to be a Spanner in the Works regarding everyone's plans, since she's central to so many of them. Now, whether she's genuine about her evilness or not, she's fulfilling that role. If she's genuine she just exposed herself in front of Sanji without knowing it, and not in the sexy way. Sanji called her his Ray of Hope because she as the only good thing in this effed up situation. Now that's no longer true and he has lost a major reason to cooperate.
If she's bluffing, then it could well be that Pudding is plotting to put an end to Big Mom's arranged marriages by damaging her reputation beyond repair. She may not realize how potentially suicidal that is, or she does and it's not stopping her. It also has the added benefit of keeping Sanji and the Straw Hats out of the crossfire, since the consequences will fall on her.
Bluffing also explains the single biggest issue I have with her being for real: Why tell Reiju? That entire scene could've played out with one of her siblings almost exactly the same way, but Oda used Reiju, someone with a vested interest in stopping the plot Pudding just described. If she's bluffing, and is out to disrupt things as much as she can, then telling Reiju, and roughing her up of needed, serves her purpose.
Yes exactly, I think so too.
If it turns out to be true, I wish Oda added a scene where Sanji told Pudding about Reiju when he was describing his shitty family. Would give Pudding a reason to target her. Though I suppose Oda could just as easily say they were spying on the Vinsmokes the whole time.
That's what I'm thinking is going on. If that's the plan I guess telling the other strawhats that Sanji is going to die is to prevent them from being passive anymore and force them to take Sanji away.
Its either that or she is trying to get away from Big Mom and the only way to do that is get rid of the marriage. Im in favor of this just because I don't think egging the SH on to get them to mess up the wedding is necessarily a viable plan. I can see that line of thinking tho.
Too bad usopp is not here. Pudding is the perfect match for him, him with his new Coo, pudding with 3 eyes view, both snipers, both liars. And she fits the sugar/perona girls he tends to beat.
Pudding is a sniper?
Anyone have access to the Japanese raw and can translate?
Does Pudding state she is starting too get sick of her mother?
All right, VIZ is here! Last one of these for 2016, too.
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Thanks a lot, Bellisario. :)
- "See, it's that sarcastic and uncooperative side of you that we don't need."
"That we don't need" ? Weren't they planning on killing them anyway?
Anyone have access to the Japanese raw and can translate?
Does Pudding state she is starting too get sick of her mother?
Just so it's not lost on the last page.
