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    Chapter 849 - Bropper in Mirrorland

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      Reiju self-inflicted the damage. She wants our attention! Nah, my theory is that she discovered something she wasn't supposed to… and someone in BM's crew spanked her ass.

      Brook vs Big Mon! That's a battle I wanna see

      I think Bropper didn't do much today compared to Carrot, damn that bunny has some moves, she even caught Diesel before he could report to BM which is a big deal

      Overall a very nice chapter, I also liked that the Germa plans to take the couple to live with them as insurance, I am sure BM won't like that though...

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        @Gentleman_Bastard:

        Still convinced that Capone is working with Blackbeard and he's a Trojan horse and that he is going to use the wedding to try and take out BM when she's distracted by the cake.

        Pretty entertaining idea since you know Capone is basically a castle so it would be one hell of a bit of irony.

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          So I guess Bropper and carrot could rescue Brook from BM, as long as tresure room has mirrors? Same for luffy, nami, Pedro if they got mirrors too in the rooms.

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            Is it just me, or does it look like Reiju is bleeding from the crotch? 😞

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            Last chapter, I felt like Pudding was going to commit suicide. This chapter, I feel like Reiju had an abortion or something.

            But realistically, the best theory that I have is that Pudding committed suicide via confrontation with Reiju, injuring her in the process. That would be pretty interesting and heartbreaking-- the only family member that Sanji likes killing his potential wife. Probably too dark for One Piece though.

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              @will-of-R:

              The most creative cover request that I've ever read in OP (y)

              It definitely became one of my favorites on the spot.

              @Dr.:

              The line of Judge on taking Pudding as hostage in her castle with Sanji confirms they aren't in league with Capone for some sort of coup.

              The chances of Pedro joining have just increased a bit, first he had some similarities with Sanji about the cigarette and the hairs covering his eye, and now we found out he has some similarities with Brook, Pedro lost 50 years of lifespan, Brook lost 50 years wandering in the Florian Triangle, Moriah stole Brook's shadow, and Big Mom stole part of Pedro's own soul/lifespan.

              About Reiju i think it would make sense if Pudding was the culprit. In that way she could ruin the relantionships between Big Mom and Germa without both parties blaming Sanji and thus taking action against Zeff, and by the last chapter we learn she has clearly already decided with all intentions to sacrifice her own life for Sanji. Big Mom would only blame Pudding, because Sanji has already agreed to marry, and Germa wold only blame Big Mom's family as a whole. The only problem is….how could Pudding do that? 3rd eye theories?

              Oh well. It was a hail mary prediction regardless. But I can still see them pulling their own coup or teaming up with Bege during the wedding in an on the spot fashion from the Fishman Island bombs exploding and Big Mom rampaging. Oda keeps homing in on the strained trust between Judge and Linlin for some sort of reason.

              Those similarities are precisely why he won't join due to not being unique enough. Zoro and Jimbei even have scars across their left eyes too. XD

              I think it might have something to do with Pudding too. In fact, I haven't seen anyone mention this, but what if Reiju actually helps Pudding out with wanting to escape like Lola? She helped out Sanji and has met her before with how Reiju said that Pudding seems like a nice girl. Of course, that probably has or could turn out horrible. Especially with that mysterious third eye…

              @Dr.:

              I think the mirror world exists as an element of One Piece world independently from Brûlée's DF, she can only control the access to it.

              I wouldn't be surprised if Blueno's door dimension worked in a similar fashion to Brulee's mirror world.

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              Both Brûlee and Randolph have been portrayed as glass cannons.

              And the rest were flunkies. None of them ever gave the impression of being able to take alot of punishment.

              To be fair, Diesel was seen in the silhouetted line of panels of Big Mom Pirates ravaging other territories for ingredients with Amande and Randolph. So for him to amount to just running away without even seeing a single attack is a bit underwhelming. But his unexpected cartoony bandit face and seriously sweet manually rotated train wheel super speed almost make up for that lol.

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              "Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."

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                Dayum, this was the OP best chapter in quite a while! The story in general's been interesting lately, but I was on the edge of my seat pretty much the whole time for this one. Waiting two weeks for the next one is going to be torture!

                And as for Reiju's injuries, since I read the spoilers and knew about that going in, my first thought when Yonji was asking at the beginning where she is was that one or more of her brothers did it. (Yonji didn't seem to know, so perhaps Ichiji and/or Niji were actually responsible?) Considered Judge as well, but I certainly doubt it, and I really, really hope not. Bege or one of his crew seems like another viable option.

                Maybe it was Pudding, but honestly, I can't say I understand all the suspicion that she always seems to get. It's true that, if she's Three-Eyed Girl, she's still hiding something from us, but so far, all of her appearances, both on her own and around a variety of different people, make her out to be nothing but a sweet, kind-hearted girl who just wants to be happy and whose main flaw is being deluded in thinking that her mother would never harm her no matter what. Unless she's going really out of her way to lie about it, she wants Sanji to be happy, and Reiju, despite having to appear otherwise, is the only Vinsmoke besides Sanji himself who wants that as well. Reiju seems like the sibling who's least likely to get into a fight with Pudding if it has something to do with disrupting the wedding; if anything at all, I'd sooner imagine them teaming up than going against each other.

                One thing's for sure, though. Having to wait two weeks (at least) to find out is gonna be hard.

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                  Reiju being the "good sibling" is too simple. I expect more from Oda, I hope he delivers.

                  Solid chapter with a good cliffhanger as well. Finally glad to see Brooke get some action.

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                  I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.

                  You won this week Fairy Tail.

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                    Sanji is about to cook something for Luffy!!!


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                      This chapter does make me wonder, since Chopper and Carrot can't seem to leave Mirror World unless Brulee willingly takes them, and I highly doubt Pedro is going to die in this arc, meaning both Big Mom and Brulee will have to come into play in some kind of way to resolve these issues. The ending of this arc gets more and more mysterious…

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                        Good chapter… Brook vs Big Mom will be interesting and the ending gives a lot to discuss about.

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                          @Count:

                          Those similarities are precisely why he won't join due to not being unique enough. Zoro and Jimbei even have scars across their left eyes too. XD

                          It's not like i support him joining, i just caught that similarity and threw a post about it XD. Personally i'd prefer that no one would join the main crew anymore.

                          @Count:

                          I wouldn't be surprised if Blueno's door dimension worked in a similar fashion to Brulee's mirror world.

                          That raise the question if DFs are the origin of all the elements in OP's world, or they have been created to control them. Those details we caught suggest the latter.

                          @BellisarioFaith:

                          Maybe it was Pudding, but honestly, I can't say I understand all the suspicion that she always seems to get. It's true that, if she's Three-Eyed Girl, she's still hiding something from us, but so far, all of her appearances, both on her own and around a variety of different people, make her out to be nothing but a sweet, kind-hearted girl who just wants to be happy and whose main flaw is being deluded in thinking that her mother would never harm her no matter what. Unless she's going really out of her way to lie about it, she wants Sanji to be happy, and Reiju, despite having to appear otherwise, is the only Vinsmoke besides Sanji himself who wants that as well. Reiju seems like the sibling who's least likely to get into a fight with Pudding if it has something to do with disrupting the wedding; if anything at all, I'd sooner imagine them teaming up than going against each other.

                          The suspicions raised in this chapter are different from the ones before. I myself never supported since the beginning Pudding being evil and manipulative, but now it's a bit different, because she's in love with Sanji, which could lead her to do extreme actions for his sake, plus she stated in the last chapter "My presence here is causing pain to everyone" just before saying goodbye crying, by the very upset expression of Nami (crying) and Luffy we can only conclude she's planning to do something very drastic that will harm her or take her life. That being said i agree that, even though we don't know how well they know each other, Pudding harming Reiju seems a bit off from the point of view of their personalities.

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                            What if the person who injured Reiju had been Reiju herself? She would be trying to stirr trouble between Big Mom's crew and the Vinsmokes in order to jeopardize the wedding - a manner of redeeming the part she took in pushing Sanji in this atrocious situation.

                            The idea is far-fetched, though, because this would be the first time she puts herself in harm's way for the sake of Sanji.
                            That she found out something she should not have about the wedding and/or Big Mom's plans regarding the Vinsmokes, and in doing so possibly ran into the third sweet commander, seems likelier, I have to admit. But the possibility is still there

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                              Excellent chapter! I'm so happy we finally get to see the other Strawhats shine, I can't wait to see what happens with Brook next. I have a feeling he already copied the Poneglyph by the time Big Mom gets in the treasure room. But I am curious to see if they do a battle of souls or not.

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                                @Dr.:

                                It's not like i support him joining, i just caught that similarity and threw a post about it XD. Personally i'd prefer that no one would join the main crew anymore.

                                But a soccer match battle royal between the Straw Hats and Blackbeard Pirates is too good. I'm not even talking about how that proves there will be eleven Straw Hats, I just love Oda having such random quirky inspiration like that similar to how Araki makes music references all of the time in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.

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                                "Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."

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                                  I hope it's some kind of translation issue but it seems Sanji is not even interested in the status of his crew mates anymore. Can this man sink further?

                                  IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….

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                                    Am i the only one here who don't give 2 shits about Sanji x Pudding and totally ships Brook x Big Mom :wub:. I want the marriage proposal in the next chapter by Brook or Big Mom!

                                    @Count:

                                    But a soccer match battle royal between the Straw Hats and Blackbeard Pirates is too good. I'm not even talking about how that proves there will be eleven Straw Hats, I just love Oda having such random quirky inspiration like that similar to how Araki makes music references all of the time in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.

                                    Counting Doc Q and Stronger as one the Blackbeard pirates are 10 now, it'll be harder but i think Chopper will have to fight them both together.

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                                      I just hope the reason Oda threw Big Mom into Brook's face is to show how their DFs interact with each other. That ought be fun!

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                                          @Dr.:

                                          Am i the only one here who don't give 2 shits about Sanji x Pudding and totally ships Brook x Big Mom :wub:. I want the marriage proposal in the next chapter by Brook or Big Mom!

                                          Counting Doc Q and Stronger as one the Blackbeard pirates are 10 now.

                                          They would actually eleven lol. I think you forgot Teach and only focused on his crewmates or something.

                                          And actually, Teach has ten Titanic Captains. And I very much doubt that Stronger is one of them instead of still being paired with Doc Q, so a new Blackbeard Pirate joined up during the timeskip. They even call Blackbeard "Admiral Teach" now lol.

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                                          We need Brook to ask Big Mom if he could look at her panties.

                                          Spoiler:

                                          "Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."

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                                            I hope it's some kind of translation issue but it seems Sanji is not even interested in the status of his crew mates anymore. Can this man sink further?

                                            Not even interested? He's having someone give him updates.

                                            He told him to stop because he doesn't like what he is hearing. The more conflict there is between his crew and big mom the more likely it is that his deal will fall apart and Luffy is murdered.

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                                              I hope it's some kind of translation issue but it seems Sanji is not even interested in the status of his crew mates anymore. Can this man sink further?

                                              Don't worry man Zoro is coming to save the day (NO)

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                                                I´ll start from the end. That looks like a stab wound on her left thigh.

                                                Pudding is a pure and self-less person, a good person, Luffy´s friend (who´s got an eye for hearts, which is an understatement) and one of his (new) motivational factors for taking action on the island.
                                                To me, it´s quite unbelievable how many people still expect bad things from her like hurting others, especially after last chapter. But OK.

                                                So, Bege was my first suspect. But he usually goes for the kill (despite failing against Pekoms) and his way of fighting as the "Firetank pirate" (guns, canons, cavalry) would not go unnoticed.
                                                That´s why, from my perspective, his move (when it comes), is much more suited in a crowded tea party/wedding which he could quickly turn into a bloody mess with his power.

                                                Then I suddenly remembered that a couple of chapters ago one of BM´s children was "playing" with knives.

                                                Anana, the psycho-kid.

                                                And it would kind of make sense. Reiju, who is one of the strongest characters on the island, is more likely to have her guard down against a child, not expecting to be stabbed, than suffering such a wound in actual combat. Plus the wound is in a place which a kid could reach, not to mention Reiju looks like a doll/action-figure, if the kid needed an excuse. Anyway, would love to see Sanji find Reiju first.


                                                As for the chapter itself. I have imagined some crazy action sequences with Chopper taking care of business in Ant-Man-like fashion, utilizing all of his formes in unreadable combos (kung-fu uppercut into monster hammer, brain dodge of scythe then locking it into that Diesel guy etc.), but I´m also satisfied with him being the brain of the operation and the mighty Croc-slam. I admit I did not get the frog switch which confused me quite a bit.

                                                The highlight of the chapter was Carrot the phenomenal, agilie and strong bunny-girl. Stone-throw (did I see that right? OMG), gymnastics, electro-shocks and super-speed. Love her.

                                                I am giving props to BM for actually trying to do something by herself already, that was a pretty badass entry to the chamber. Now I want to see a Devil Fruit soul battle and how well Brook´s power matches hers. Although now I have this weird thought in my mind of Brook´s Soul showcase resulting in BM wanting Brook as her x-th husband who can actually "control" her to an extent through sheer awesomeness).

                                                Anyway, Pedro participating in this mission after losing 50 years of his life the last time he was there, what a brave warrior. Looking forward to that showdown, I just hope we get to see it. But yeah, this is yet another reason why BM will go down or lose a large portion of her power/influence soon including the years she takes from people.

                                                Vinsmoke men just being their usual assholes, but it´s good that we still don´t know what exactly they want to achieve here.

                                                I really, really liked the chapter.

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                                                  @Count:

                                                  They would actually eleven lol. I think you forgot Teach and only focused on his crewmates or something.

                                                  And actually, Teach has ten Titanic Captains. And I very much doubt that Stronger is one of them instead of still being paired with Doc Q, so a new Blackbeard Pirate joined up during the timeskip. They even call Blackbeard "Admiral Teach" now lol.

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                                                  I was looking at this wiki haha, my bad. I forgot it was stated there are 10 Titanic Captains.

                                                  @Count:

                                                  We need Brook to ask Big Mom if he could look at her panties.

                                                  I bet that would only make Big Mom wanting him even more in her collection!

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                                                    I love your theory about Reiju, and find it quite possible; and I also agree on the Chopper fight, that Ant-man panel could have been awesome but what we got is fine too 🙂

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                                                      I was looking at the wiki haha, my bad. I forgot it was stated there are 10 Titanic Captains.

                                                      I bet that would only make Big Mom wanting him even more in her collection!

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                                                      I don't know how lucky I was to find this on another forum.

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                                                      "Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."

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                                                        ! http://i.imgur.com/xmQnKFQ.png

                                                        I don't know how lucky I was to find this on another forum.

                                                        I'm just having dinner, and that line of Big Mom not wearing any panties killed a bit my appetite lol

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                                                          I'm just having dinner, and that line of Big Mom not wearing any panties killed a bit my appetite lol

                                                          I am so sorry.

                                                          ! Not really.

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                                                          "Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."

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                                                            I hope it's some kind of translation issue but it seems Sanji is not even interested in the status of his crew mates anymore. Can this man sink further?

                                                            There's still time left friend, don't worry 😆 If he cooks for Linlin before Luffy for instance.

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                                                              The chapter was regular.
                                                              I didn't like much Carrot's double because Brulee should be capable to master her abilities to a degree of a sibling of a Yonko, but in the end Chopper's strength and Carrot's speed would work no matter what Oda put to decorate the moment, so don't it doesn't matter actually, i don't read One Piece to see battles.

                                                              Brook handling in the treasure room was a bit too easy. Smoothie cares for the castle as appeared for only Lin Lin destroying the walls to enter, the joke wasn't too funny but still appreciated. I admit that it will be awesome to see Brook fighting the Soru no Mi, hope a glimpse of that.

                                                              The first page was the most intriguing thing of the chapter. Just as was pointed, the trust between Germa and Charlotte families is non-existent; the former doesn't know about that almost every fiancee coming from the latter are meant to be under Lin Lin's wing. The story regarding the benefits for each after this entaglement becomes chapter by chapter into a thing that it won't occur and Oda can't hide well. The feelings of Ichiji and Niji about Sanji are a nice catch for the reader to notice that Hell will be upon Sanji from now on.

                                                              On other thing, the last page was, in some corners, only sketched. Lucky there's an official rest for authors, Oda must gain strength.

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                                                              Ok, what if Reiju is in Bege's castle ? 🙂

                                                              You nailed well, man.
                                                              It is indeed Bege's castle. You can check the most significant difference, which are lanters:

                                                              Whole Cake Castle:

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                                                              Candles are for illuminate beyond Sanji's room and even in Mont D'or's prison book, which supposedly must resemble to the castle, at least the he lives there. Also the ceiling of the passageways are curved compared to Bege's.

                                                              Bege Castle:

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                                                              Lanters are in the passages and has lower separations between crossed passages but with a flated ceiling.

                                                              Now, what could Reiju have find out to be kept inside? What she's plan about it? Yeah, that with the Judge plan are the best thing of the chapter.

                                                              Nothing exists; even if something exists, nothing can be known about it. Even if something can be known about it,

                                                              knowledge about it can't be communicated to others. Even if it can be communicated, it cannot be understood.

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                                                                I'm just waiting for that cheesy cliche moment where Sanji tries to find Pudding and ends up seeing/hearing something shocking that makes him melodramatically drop the bouquet of flowers. C'mon Oda, I know you have it in you.

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                                                                "Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."

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                                                                  Pretty entertaining idea since you know Capone is basically a castle so it would be one hell of a bit of irony.

                                                                  Kinda inspired by the idea that since Oda is a GOT fan he's going to do his own version of the Red Wedding. I mean we know Capone is up to something, which is why he offed Pekoms. Even if BM isn't defeated this arc there has to be something that weakens/distracts her so she shifts her focus from the SH's. Besides, Blackbeard also needs the Road poneglyphs if he want's to become PK so…

                                                                  I would love it if right when BM is about to cut into the wedding cake one of Blackbeards commanders and an army just explode out of Capone. Reall interested in seeing how the wedding/tea party is going to play out.

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                                                                  The chapter was regular.
                                                                  I didn't like much Carrot's double because Brulee should be capable to master her abilities to a degree of a sibling of a Yonko, but in the end Chopper's strength and Carrot's speed would work no matter what Oda put to decorate the moment, so don't it doesn't matter actually, i don't read One Piece to see battles.

                                                                  Brook handling in the treasure room was a bit too easy. Smoothie cares for the castle as appeared for only Lin Lin destroying the walls to enter, the joke wasn't too funny but still appreciated. I admit that it will be awesome to see Brook fighting the Soru no Mi, hope a glimpse of that.

                                                                  The first page was the most intriguing thing of the chapter. Just as was pointed, the trust between Germa and Charlotte families is non-existent; the former doesn't know about that almost every fiancee coming from the latter are meant to be under Lin Lin's wing. The story regarding the benefits for each after this entaglement becomes chapter by chapter into a thing that it won't occur and Oda can't hide well. The feelings of Ichiji and Niji about Sanji are a nice catch for the reader to notice that Hell will be upon Sanji from now on.

                                                                  On other thing, the last page was, in some corners, only sketched. Lucky there's an official rest for authors, Oda must gain strength.

                                                                  You nailed well, man.
                                                                  It is indeed Bege's castle. You can check the most significant difference, which are lanters:

                                                                  Whole Cake Castle:

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                                                                  Candles are for illuminate beyond Sanji's room and even in Mont D'or's prison book, which supposedly must resemble to the castle, at least the he lives there. Also the ceiling of the passageways are curved compared to Bege's.

                                                                  Bege Castle:

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                                                                  Lanters are in the passages and has lower separations between crossed passages but with a flated ceiling.

                                                                  Now, what could Reiju have find out to be kept inside? What she's plan about it? Yeah, that with the Judge plan are the best thing of the chapter.

                                                                  Oh Shit! That totally does look like Bege's castle. I mean I know he was probably involved but its nice to get confirmation. Great catch.

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                                                                    I was thinking more pudding has the third sweet commander on her side taking out germa, ether way she had something to do with Reiju…also notice big moms walls spying on the other Germa family members while they were conversing.

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                                                                      she wants Sanji to be happy, and Reiju, despite having to appear otherwise, is the only Vinsmoke besides Sanji himself who wants that as well. Reiju seems like the sibling who's least likely to get into a fight with Pudding if it has something to do with disrupting the wedding; if anything at all, I'd sooner imagine them teaming up than going against each other.

                                                                      Does she know that Reiju is the exception. Maybe she think that all of Sanji's siblings treat him the same and she just attacked Reiju first because she saw her alone.

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                                                                        Ok, what if Reiju is in Bege's castle ? 🙂

                                                                        I skipped your post somehow. You really may be right on that. Now i think it's either Bege's castle or Pudding. The former is supported by the different architecture and not only by the lanterns. The latter is supported by Pudding's suspicious absence at the lunch meeting, as Sanji said.

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                                                                          despite my reservations from the spoliers,i quite liked the chapter.although there were multiple storylines,i never felt like they were scrambled and it felt like everything got it's required time for display.
                                                                          Of course chopper and carrot were awesome.although the enemies were easily defeated,they weren't worthwhile opponents anyway despite their interesting visuals.Brook and Pedro's part were also nice and progressed their thread well enough.The cliffhanger seems somehing is starting that was until now kept under wraps.I think it was a third party,and Bege and Potato-starch are obvious candidates.Let's see what happens there.but i was curious,who was that person with Brook in the cover page?
                                                                          also noticed something interesting:http://mangastream.com/r/one_piece/849/3874/14

                                                                          In the middle panel,and even in the upper one,there are multiple clocks showing different time.do they mean anything?One is showing 10:30 ish,one 5:07 ish and one around 7:55

                                                                          maybe i'm just overthinking

                                                                          that which cannot be stopped:inherited will,a man's dream,and the flow of time.as long as man continues to seek out the answer to freedom,these things shall never be stopped.-PK Gol D. Roger

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                                                                            You nailed well, man.
                                                                            It is indeed Bege's castle. You can check the most significant difference, which are lanters:

                                                                            Whole Cake Castle:

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                                                                            Candles are for illuminate beyond Sanji's room and even in Mont D'or's prison book, which supposedly must resemble to the castle, at least the he lives there. Also the ceiling of the passageways are curved compared to Bege's.

                                                                            Bege Castle:

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                                                                            Lanters are in the passages and has lower separations between crossed passages but with a flated ceiling.

                                                                            Now, what could Reiju have find out to be kept inside? What she's plan about it? Yeah, that with the Judge plan are the best thing of the chapter.

                                                                            I liked the idea she was inside Capone ever since it was mentioned, but there aren't enough similarities between Reiju's corridor and Capone's interior shown before to make anything conclusive. And there's that vine decoration on the lanterns which corresponds both to elements found in BM's decorations and Germa 66 symbol.

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                                                                            It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                              Ok, what if Reiju is in Bege's castle ? 🙂

                                                                              You really nailed it with this one. I already thought Bege was responsible considering he's stated that he's just waiting for the right time to make his move on Linlin. Setting up a scenario where Germa/Judge thinks Big Mom is responsible and having them at war with each other seems to be the best call for him. I'm sure the Tamatebako exploding will benefit both him and Luffy & Co. to make their move. Whther or not they work together is hard to tell, but anything is possible.

                                                                              Would also love to see Luffy storming the inside of Bege's castle and end up prying open his eye lid or something, lol.

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                                                                                One more thing concerning "(Capone(Reiju)Bege)" theory. I'm doubting she would be able to escape for long, since Capone has full control over the castle.

                                                                                Originally Posted by Outerspec

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                                                                                  Haha,and you warned me a little bit late too.

                                                                                  I exaggerated about some elements that i mentioned of course,but justifying the hurry for Wano's sake,still seems unnatural to me.

                                                                                  The ''let's skip this in order to see it in Wano'' argument, sorry, but ain't gonna cut it for me.

                                                                                  I totally agree. I for one find Whole Cake Island to be a way more compelling setting & the Big Mom Pirates way more interesting villains. And while I adore the designs/visuals/tight plot of this arc so far, I have to say I am a little disapointed in one regard. Much as I love the island and it's bizarr-o landscapes, I feel like I don't really know it in any meaningful way. We haven't met any regular citizens who could give us even slight insight into how the life of your average WCI citizen goes. (I mean you could argue about when they met Pudding back on one of the earlier islands…but still) In a lot of the other outlandish places we've been (Alabasta, Skypiea, Water 7, Fishman Island, Dressrosa) we've met several ordinary people and been able to get some more perspective on those islands and their culture. It's just kinda disapointing that we have this insanely awesome island, the headquarters of a YONKO, with a badass crew...and yet it feels like we haven't gotten all that intimate with the place.

                                                                                  All that said, I did really like this chapter. I have no qualms with how things turned out, and I loved seeing Chopper and especially Carrot prove how badass they are. Honestly was a tad worried that Oda was about to make one of the few very strong female fighters he just introduced into a damsel, and was really glad to see that wasn't the case at all. (All part of Chopper's Keikaku) Some people try to really underrate Carrot's strengths, and I'm glad Oda's just showing them why they're wrong. Plus the whole action scene was plain exciting. The only disappointment I have, I guess, is that this is the end of the road for Randolph. I liked the other villains in the Mirror World fine, but I'm okay with them getting knocked out. Randolph though I had hoped to see more of, he was just this lovely combo of badass, adorable, and hilarious. Oh well, hardly a big deal.

                                                                                  Also very hyped to see Pedro vs Tamago go down! This arc is on the cards for being one of my favorites, what with the setting, villains, plot, etc. With some more fleshing out of those elements, more twists and awesome moments/build-up, I think it'll turn out great! I just reaaaaally hope we don't rush this too much. I do love the tight pacing, but I don't want Oda to actually rush it.

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                                                                                    Such a roller coaster this chapter, things are finally progressing. One set of SH captured, the other set free themselves, Brook and Pedro's backs against the wal lthe Germa 66 planning something (which isn't surprising really, had a feeling they were gonna pull something like this), Pudding off to do..something and Reiji injured. And of course the manga has to go on break before we can find out what. Can't say I'm not excited though.

                                                                                    Get nuts or go crazy trying.

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                                                                                      I liked the idea she was inside Capone ever since it was mentioned, but there aren't enough similarities between Reiju's corridor and Capone's interior shown before to make anything conclusive. And there's that vine decoration on the lanterns which corresponds both to elements found in BM's decorations and Germa 66 symbol.

                                                                                      But regarding the castle, it makes it unique. Germa's castle has quadratic fashion-like walls in the lower and middle sides of the castle decorated with candles only in one side. So, between the three options, it's the only who come closer to be Bege's.

                                                                                      Just as you point anyway, Bege must know and even take Reiju immediately, but if Brulee losts in her dimension just because a flaw in her own ability, why can't Bege fall on that too?

                                                                                      Nothing exists; even if something exists, nothing can be known about it. Even if something can be known about it,

                                                                                      knowledge about it can't be communicated to others. Even if it can be communicated, it cannot be understood.

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                                                                                        There are countless reasons for why Capone might try to kill one of the Vinsmokes.

                                                                                        Here are some of the top of my head.

                                                                                        -He might be backstabbing BM and trying to ruin her deal.
                                                                                        -The lady vinsmoker might have stumbled upon something she shouldn't have seen.
                                                                                        -BM might have planned to kill all non-son in law Vinsmokes and just keep the tech.
                                                                                        -He might be trying to frame the strawhats so that BM will actually kill them

                                                                                        With all due respect, that's a load of nonsense.
                                                                                        Capone backstabbed Pekoms to make the deal happen in the first place if he didn't want the deal to happen Sanji was inside his body at his mercy so nope.
                                                                                        Lady Vinsmoke seems like she's still in the castle grounds I don't think Capone and Co. Are anywhere near there.
                                                                                        Keep what tech, there's no tangible tech to keep, unless you mean their ship that houses the cloning machine? Does she even know how to use it, if that's her purpose she can just kill them here and now without having to go around doing the whole wedding crap, she's diplomatic in her own weird way
                                                                                        Frame the strawhats who are pretty much either captured or occupied with her crew? I'm getting a headache.

                                                                                        Year of Sanji, let's go!

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                                                                                          With all due respect, that's a load of nonsense.
                                                                                          Capone backstabbed Pekoms to make the deal happen in the first place if he didn't want the deal to happen Sanji was inside his body at his mercy so nope.

                                                                                          He could have captured Sanji in order to have access to the Germa Castle. Judge wasn't interested in handing his other sons to Big Mom.

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                                                                                            I think now that Reiju looks like she was stabbed on the left side. She is heavily bleeding from under her dress.

                                                                                            It could have been yet to be introduced Assasin from Big Mom crew. Someone Big Mom wanted to send after Lola or Zeff if needed.
                                                                                            Maybe Pudding ordered that person to kill one of Vinsmokes or there is somebody in Big Mom crew/family who does not want Germa to unite with Ling Ling family.
                                                                                            There should be a dozen of marines, other Yonko and many many more factions that do not want wedding to happen.

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                                                                                              For some reason, Big Mom in this chapter made me wish for some Kool-Aid.

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                                                                                                For some reason, Big Mom in this chapter made me wish for some Kool-Aid.

                                                                                                This arc needs a juice pitcher Homie as One Piece's Kool Aid Man.

                                                                                                Spoiler:

                                                                                                "Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."

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                                                                                                  We need Brook to ask Big Mom if he could look at her panties.

                                                                                                  If he really asks her that, oh boy will she be infuriated. Because she doesn't wear any panties at all…

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                                                                                                    If he really asks her that, oh boy will she be infuriated. Because she doesn't wear any panties at all…

                                                                                                    Please. Please Oda make that happen😁

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                                                                                                      With all due respect, that's a load of nonsense.
                                                                                                      Capone backstabbed Pekoms to make the deal happen in the first place if he didn't want the deal to happen Sanji was inside his body at his mercy so nope.

                                                                                                      You asked for possible reasons. And Capone betraying them is absolutely a possibility

                                                                                                      Lady Vinsmoke seems like she's still in the castle grounds I don't think Capone and Co. Are anywhere near there.

                                                                                                      Yes it would sort of ruin the who did it mystery if whoever did it and exactly where they are was in picture.

                                                                                                      Keep what tech, there's no tangible tech to keep, unless you mean their ship that houses the cloning machine? Does she even know how to use it, if that's her purpose she can just kill them here and now without having to go around doing the whole wedding crap, she's diplomatic in her own weird way

                                                                                                      All their gear and technology is on or is those ships. The gravity boots, the cloning, the moving snails, the silly suits.

                                                                                                      Another angle. Capone is stealing the stuff and lady Vinsmoke stumbled upon him doing it.

                                                                                                      Frame the strawhats who are pretty much either captured or occupied with her crew? I'm getting a headache.

                                                                                                      You do remember that BM has promised to free them all, right?

                                                                                                      Does that ease your headache a bit.

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                                                                                                        Do you guys really think Capone can take Reiju? I honestly doubt he can take Sanji and Sanji is the runt of the litter.

                                                                                                        IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….

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