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    One Piece Chapter 874 - King Baum

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    • Maju
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      I don't mind the cake theory as long as it is used to drive away Big Mom while the crew fights Katakuri's squad and escape.
      If the Big Mom pirates genuinely let the crew escape as a reward for the cake I will be very disappointed.

      if they escape still on enemy terms with Big Mom, an even bigger plotholes opens up, since she would send them the head of a relative every week for the rest of the journey… she has done less for people no showing a tea party... they destroyed one.. and also tried to kill her.

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        @RamistaR:

        Hahah true, One Piece is full of great planers. I guess I get that vibe out of Katakuri because he doesn't seem to be underestimating Luffy, unlike the others.

        Yep, full of geniuses. I mean DD looked like he might be a second Crocodile but then he went on actually showcasing the real Mera Mera and expected Diamante and fodder gladiators to keep Luffy inside the colosseum…

        At least the Tenryuubito thing was interesting.

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          Katakuri is so cool!

          I wonder if Nami being able to manipulate Zeus has something to do with her having part of Big Mom's vivre card.

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            if they escape still on enemy terms with Big Mom, an even bigger plotholes opens up, since she would send them the head of a relative every week for the rest of the journey… she has done less for people no showing a tea party... they destroyed one.. and also tried to kill her.

            But most of the shs don't even have parents. And luffy has dragon and garp… go get their heads?

            And pudding can be used to delete bm's memory about some events so she doesn't go after them.

            The worst thing would be if bm goes the pudding way and turns from evil to good and just forgives them.

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              @uniaka:

              Yeah, I never liked Sunny anyway. Too small for pirate king's crew. They need one of those marine battleships.

              Oro Jackson wasn't that big as well.

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                @RamistaR:

                I don't mind the cake theory as long as it is used to drive away Big Mom while the crew fights Katakuri's squad and escape.
                If the Big Mom pirates genuinely let the crew escape as a reward for the cake I will be very disappointed.

                Yeah, I really hope they don't reach some 'understanding' and let them go. I'm thinking Pudding uses her memory powers on Big Mom and makes her forget the whole ordeal while she eats the cake or something. Then she helps them make their escape from the rest of the crew.

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                  @uniaka:

                  But most of the shs don't even have parents. And luffy has dragon and garp… go get their heads?

                  And pudding can be used to delete bm's memory about some events so she doesn't go after them.

                  The worst thing would be if bm goes the pudding way and turns from evil to good and just forgives them.

                  It doesn't need to be a parent… all of them except robin and brook have innocent people they care for.. luffy has fus ha village, Nami has coconut village, zoro has a dojo with his old master, usopp has his village, franky has the family at water 7 and iceberg, sanji has the baratie and the guys at kama baka, chopper has the entire drum kingdom

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                    Seriously, Katakuri, just destroy the freaking ship.

                    You're kidding, right? The ship is top tier loot. Could be the best ship in OPverse.

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                      I thought that too at first, but isn't his attitude instead meant to show he recognizes the attack from that time Dory and Broggy freed the Strw Hats back in Little Garden?

                      Of course, but the fact he recognized it and the focus on his face might be a slight foreshadowing. After all, he can gigantify his body parts and make them as hard as actual weapons. And they probably will visit Elbaf.

                      Or maybe he invents his own version even before that. And uses it on Kaido.

                      Originally Posted by Outerspec

                      Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                      It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                        Aw man i felt genuinly sad about that tree dude.

                        He'll never get to see his tree fiance again

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                          Sanji's comment just confused her and made her break down at first. What really made her fall for Sanji was his attitude afterwards when she tried to shoot him again, and how he rescued her despite her trying to kill him, I guess.

                          Well yes, it could justify her motivations. However the comic doesn't take any steps to show her making up her mind about anything, or her evolving resolve, neither does it provide even the tiniest of hints that these acts may have touched her. All we see on panel is a one-liner that resulted in a complete character change, which is just as bad as it was when it happened with Viola. At least we learned later that Viola had had ample motivation to break away from the Donquixote family all along. In Pudding's case, it seems that she will throw away everything she was until now based on this single compliment, which really makes it too convenient for the protagonists.

                          As a character, I really have a hard time telling which one is her true self in the end, and what could or could not motivate her. She reminds me of these infiltrated agents that are so much caught in their roles that they themselves don't know anymore who they are. This is not necessarily a bad thing.

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                            You're kidding, right? The ship is top tier loot. Could be the best ship in OPverse.

                            honestly, someone from a Four Emperor's crew, and not just someone, but a Commander with a 1 billion bounty, could careless about a rookie''s ship. Yes, Luffy is just rookie for them albeit defeating the Thousand Cookie Cracker and messing with their entire organization. The threat that he hoped to eliminate.. but he wont be able to.. jesus christ.. just destroy the ship already.. but it aint gonna happen. Even smothering the whole ship with mochi so it wont be able to sail even with Jimbei on board aint gonna happen.

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                            Why Dogtooth didn't just destroy the ship ? I thought he wanted to ensure Strawhats won't escape

                            A. He collect ships.. and put it inside bottles..
                            B. He's just stupid.. pure muscles and mochi.. no foresight at all.. oh wait..
                            C. Sunny's plot armor.. come on.. it still have to get to Raftel.
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                              The only problem here is Katakuri. They'll probably manage to escape from Bigmom and Jinbei will help once they'll reach the ship for the ennemies in sea and else.

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                              Aw man i felt genuinly sad about that tree dude.

                              He'll never get to see his tree fiance again

                              Agreed. He is the MVP of the chapter.

                              KingBaum for next crewmate !

                              Every nation gets the government it deserves.–-- Joseph de Maistre

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                                Aw man i felt genuinly sad about that tree dude.

                                He'll never get to see his tree fiance again

                                Aww, come on. As if a giant ball of fire could genuinely kill anyone in the OPverse. 😁 We'll catch a panel of him in the care of his good lady by the end of the arc

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                                  BM wrecking stuff. +1
                                  Nami seducing a Thundercloud after flash-convincing King Baum to continue his death sentence walk. +2
                                  King Baum continuing to be the #1 poor bastard punching bag of the arc. +1
                                  A grand fireball just dropped. +1
                                  Pudding…eh, expected. +/- 0

                                  This was a satisfactory chapter for me.

                                  Now if we get another 1-2 of BM showcasing how scary she actually is and that they would have no chance of making it out of there alive, I´ll be OK with the ... cake rescue.

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                                    Ok, if they make it to the ship, Luffy probably CoCs th chess soldiers and then it is pretty much Katakuri vs the straw-minks.
                                    In the end Jinbe probably pulls off some fishman ability to get rid of those sea-slugs with the top hats on the ocean floor. Or his old Crew distracts them or sth.
                                    Bege has almost as hilarious faces as CC.

                                    There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                                    But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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                                      It's funny that no one complained when Perona didn't destroyed Sunny back in Thriller Bark.

                                      Also, Zeus looks a lot like Pac-Man lol.

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                                        Wouldn't he need a weapon for that?

                                        Nah, he's already got spear leg attack.

                                        Same as he doesn't need guns to use gomu gomu no pistol 😉

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                                          @KageKageKing:

                                          It's funny that no one complained when Perona didn't destroyed Sunny back in Thriller Bark.

                                          Perona was about to use the Sunny to escape from Thriller Bark. Completely different situation.

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                                            I actually would have liked it for Luffy, Nami and Brook to fight Big Mom together. Nami taking Zeus, Brook fighting Prometheus and Luffy fighting BM and Napoleon. And Sanji making the cake.

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                                              If they see the ship is destroyed, they are less likely to approach, at least for people who have no attachment to their ships. Obviously getting the Sunny destroyed, would make Luffy flip shit, but they have no way to know that.

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                                                I don't understand why BM can kill her children just because she want to eat something and still somebody complains that a part of her very own soul cannot betray her for greedyness. I just don't get it.

                                                But right now I would like just to quote every single user that was bragging about Pudding when she came out as evil, making fun of who thought from the beginning that she would end up being good.

                                                But you know, you can still argue about katakuri not destroying the sunny lol

                                                "I'm simply an accident. Why take it all so seriously?"

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                                                  Maybe we get a Groot-like revival for king baum:ninja:

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                                                    King Baum has the worst luck. Blackmailed by hostile pirates into betraying his own, seperated from his fiancée, used as a demeaning tool of transportation and ultimately incenerated. If only those shitty hostile pirates hadn't come along he would've been enjoying himself with his fiancée right now! King Baum would've been better off ditching the assholes and pleading for mercy, but given the nature of the blackmail I can see how he'd be conflicted. Really, even with Big Mom dealing the finishing blow, the blame lies squarely on the hostile pirates who roped King Baum into this for their own gain. What jerks.

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                                                      @I♥Taeyeon:

                                                      honestly, someone from a Four Emperor's crew, and not just someone, but a Commander with a 1 billion bounty, could careless about a rookie''s ship. Yes, Luffy is just rookie for them albeit defeating the Thousand Cookie Cracker and messing with their entire organization. The threat that he hoped to eliminate.. but he wont be able to.. jesus christ.. just destroy the ship already.. but it aint gonna happen. Even smothering the whole ship with mochi so it wont be able to sail even with Jimbei on board aint gonna happen.

                                                      It's not just some Rookie's ship, it's like newest Ferrari. It's a ship built by best materials by one of best shipwrights and have great technology inside of it. It's a treasure.

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                                                        She reminds me of these infiltrated agents that are so much caught in their roles that they themselves don't know anymore who they are. This is not necessarily a bad thing.

                                                        Whoa, nice angle.

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                                                          @Tarek:

                                                          Perona was about to use the Sunny to escape from Thriller Bark. Completely different situation.

                                                          She was there before she was defeated by Usopp to steal their loot.

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                                                            So… Would it be okay for Baum to die were he to be single and not have a fiancé waiting for him?

                                                            Eh, fuck it.

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                                                              Where is Brook in all of this? Did something happen to him?

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                                                                @Black:

                                                                Where is Brook in all of this? Did something happen to him?

                                                                He and Chopper are returning to the Sunny via Shark Submerge

                                                                Waldorf: You know Statler, after watching the last one thousand episodes of One Piece, I think I've come to a conclusion.

                                                                Statler: No you haven't.

                                                                Both: DOHOHOHOHOHO!

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                                                                  And I imagine they will get captured by katakuri unless they see ship is captured and don't go there.

                                                                  @Maju:

                                                                  It doesn't need to be a parent… all of them except robin and brook have innocent people they care for.. luffy has fus ha village, Nami has coconut village, zoro has a dojo with his old master, usopp has his village, franky has the family at water 7 and iceberg, sanji has the baratie and the guys at kama baka, chopper has the entire drum kingdom

                                                                  And it never made sense how BM gets all that information. If in the case of sanji judge told her he left him in east blue or something and limited the search area, how will she find out about the past and relatives of the others?

                                                                  https://imgur.com/MyjRSWw

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                                                                    Where is Brook in all of this? Did something happen to him?

                                                                    he is recuperating the shark submarine in another point of whole cake island

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                                                                      It's great to see Big Mom going all out. Prometheus' size and face reminded me of the moon from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask combined with the Angry Sun from Super Mario Bros. 3 lol. I'm glad to finally see Nami countering Big Mom's powers like we have all been predicting throughout the whole arc by recruiting Zeus. I would really like it if Zeus or a small version of him stayed with Nami for the rest of the series. Since Zeus got handled by Nami, I expect Brook to eventually return and handle Prometheus due to damaging him earlier in the arc as foreshadowing and there being potential for an ice versus fire theme.

                                                                      Additionally, I loved Big Mom's callback to Dorry and Broggy using their own Spear of Elbaf move to at the end of Little Garden:

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                                                                      I like the idea of her going complete Yandere and wanting to kill Sanji by herself and that she's upset BM might. It seems like there is little to add credence to it at this point. But Pudding has done so many face-heel turns it can't be positively excluded.

                                                                      See, the thing about that is not only the caption at the end of the chapter about the tears being genuine, but also how when she is crying this time, we actually see her third eye too. Throughout her whole act as a good girl, we knew that she was hiding her third eye under her forelock for some sort of unknown reason. So that, along with the convenience of her running into the Straw Hats so conveniently, was a clue hinting at how there's more to how she's acting than she is letting on. But now that we finally see all three eyes crying and even the nose drip, meaning that all of the cats are already out of the bag I'm inclined to believe this is true.

                                                                      I wouldn't mind yandere Pudding though, trust me.

                                                                      @wolfwood:

                                                                      Aw man i felt genuinly sad about that tree dude.

                                                                      He'll never get to see his tree fiance again

                                                                      You know that he's going to live, Woody. I expect better judgment from you.

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                                                                      Well yes, it could justify her motivations. However the comic doesn't take any steps to show her making up her mind about anything, or her evolving resolve, neither does it provide even the tiniest of hints that these acts may have touched her. All we see on panel is a one-liner that resulted in a complete character change, which is just as bad as it was when it happened with Viola. At least we learned later that Viola had had ample motivation to break away from the Donquixote family all along. In Pudding's case, it seems that she will throw away everything she was until now based on this single compliment, which really makes it too convenient for the protagonists.

                                                                      As a character, I really have a hard time telling which one is her true self in the end, and what could or could not motivate her. She reminds me of these infiltrated agents that are so much caught in their roles that they themselves don't know anymore who they are. This is not necessarily a bad thing.

                                                                      Pretty much all of this. But this was always going to happen ever since we got that flashback glimpse of feeling smothered by Big Mom and thinking about Lola. Not that the execution of the heel-face turn is flawless, it's not lol.

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                                                                      Where is Brook in all of this? Did something happen to him?

                                                                      Brook and Chopper went to get the Shark Submerge III.

                                                                      Spoiler:

                                                                      "Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."

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                                                                        A. He collect ships.. and put it inside bottles..
                                                                        B. He's just stupid.. pure muscles and mochi.. no foresight at all.. oh wait..
                                                                        C. Sunny's plot armor.. come on.. it still have to get to Raftel.
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                                                                        D. there are tons of ships in the island,so destroying it wouldn't make their escape that much unlikely, they can always invade one of the tons of surveillance ships around,much like it happened at the exit of impel down.
                                                                        this way instead they have a perfect place to set up an ambush on

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                                                                          She was there before she was defeated by Usopp to steal their loot.

                                                                          She didn't destroy the ship because Luffy, Zoro and Sanji(whose shadows have been stolen) were supposed to leave the island with it.

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                                                                            What if katakuri is the final villain this arc. He had his clash with luffy and said he won't allow him to escape since he wil lturn into danger for bm in the future.

                                                                            They deal with bm by baking her a cake and maybe change memory but they still beat some of her crew since they would have no reason to allow them to leave even if they make this cake.

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                                                                              This was a nice chapter. 🙂

                                                                              And damn, Prometheus looks big as hell! O_O

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                                                                                Katakuri just wants to join the crew.

                                                                                Every nation gets the government it deserves.–-- Joseph de Maistre

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                                                                                  Seriously, that´s why i thought as well. He´s like "fuck this bitch, i had enough of these tantrums, time to join a real crew with competent people".
                                                                                  All Katakuri is this arc is a plot device, so taht at least one BM Pirates can seem competent.

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                                                                                    I was holding out hope for a truly vicious Pudding. Her first reveal was one of the more interesting points in the arc, as it reduced Sanji to despair so completely. I would have also been pretty satisfied with Pudding going over to Chiffon's side because she's always been plotting to escape a la Lola. But going after her because she needs to save Sanji and his friends? That's pretty weak. Her entire relationship with Sanji was based on a plot to kill him, his family, and eventually all the Straw Hats who showed up. She did a total 180 because Sanji said her third eye looked beautiful? I just can't see it.

                                                                                    Nobody on Totland, a place where every other person looks like a bizarre human-food hybrid, ever thought Pudding's relatively minor superficial quirk was beautiful? And Pudding is so shallow that she'd completely shift her priorities because a total horndog liked the way she looked? Yeah, yeah we got a flashback about her being teased as a kid over the eye, but that seemed really quick and convenient to me. We also got the scene where Mom was a jerk to her about her eye, but that was pretty minor compared to the way Mom has treated her other kids. It didn't even come off as malicious, but rather ignorant or inconsiderate about Pudding's feelings. Not exactly the kind of cruelty that would serve as the foundation for a complete character change in my eyes.

                                                                                    Ultimately this turn of events transforms Pudding into the beautiful princess who needs to be rescued from her cruel family. It's something we've seen countless times, it makes her earlier deceptions totally meaningless, and I personally think it's just boring.

                                                                                    On a more positive note, I quite liked a lot about this chapter. Mom's Elbaf Spear attack, Zeus being naive and food-obsessed just like his Mom when she was younger, and Prometheus going supernova were all highlights.

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                                                                                      And I imagine they will get captured by katakuri unless they see ship is captured and don't go there.

                                                                                      And it never made sense how BM gets all that information. If in the case of sanji judge told her he left him in east blue or something and limited the search area, how will she find out about the past and relatives of the others?

                                                                                      her having a big network to find info about what she wants is one of the first thing we knew about her..and she also knew about kamabakka,so she didn't rely on judge to find info about sanji.

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                                                                                        Solid chapter. Pudding is to be expected, this is Oda afterall. Nami possibly getting a power up is welcome. The colorspread is nice.

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                                                                                        I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.

                                                                                        You won this week Fairy Tail.

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                                                                                          I still wanna know how the hell nami knew that zeus would like her black balls..she says something like "thunder attracts thunder"..but it seems like something out of the blue with no real reason behind it.

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                                                                                            I was holding out hope for a truly vicious Pudding. Her first reveal was one of the more interesting points in the arc, as it reduced Sanji to despair so completely. I would have also been pretty satisfied with Pudding going over to Chiffon's side because she's always been plotting to escape a la Lola. But going after her because she needs to save Sanji and his friends? That's pretty weak. Her entire relationship with Sanji was based on a plot to kill him, his family, and eventually all the Straw Hats who showed up. She did a total 180 because Sanji said her third eye looked beautiful? I just can't see it.

                                                                                            Nobody on Totland, a place where every other person looks like a bizarre human-food hybrid, ever thought Pudding's relatively minor superficial quirk was beautiful? And Pudding is so shallow that she'd completely shift her priorities because a total horndog liked the way she looked? Yeah, yeah we got a flashback about her being teased as a kid over the eye, but that seemed really quick and convenient to me. We also got the scene where Mom was a jerk to her about her eye, but that was pretty minor compared to the way Mom has treated her other kids. It didn't even come off as malicious, but rather ignorant or inconsiderate about Pudding's feelings. Not exactly the kind of cruelty that would serve as the foundation for a complete character change in my eyes.

                                                                                            Ultimately this turn of events transforms Pudding into the beautiful princess who needs to be rescued from her cruel family. It's something we've seen countless times, it makes her earlier deceptions totally meaningless, and I personally think it's just boring.

                                                                                            On a more positive note, I quite liked a lot about this chapter. Mom's Elbaf Spear attack, Zeus being naive and food-obsessed just like his Mom when she was younger, and Prometheus going supernova were all highlights.

                                                                                            I can see that she always fall for Sanji but rejected that feeling completely because she was over-unease with herself…
                                                                                            but indeed this 3 eyes things on such a island is not so convincing

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                                                                                            I still wanna know how the hell nami knew that zeus would like her black balls..she says something like "thunder attracts thunder"..but it seems like something out of the blue with no real reason behind it.

                                                                                            well she is a weather specialist and had strong feeling for this connection

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                                                                                              Surprised to see Luffy just left KB behind when Prometheus attacked. Not that he could do much in that situation, but still weird. Well, he is acting almost entirely OOC in this arc (at least in my opinion), so whatever…

                                                                                              Also good to see some serious reactions to BM power. So far the reactions were always face faults in a way it seemed more comedic, but now we can see "shit" written over their faces after she attacks.

                                                                                              As for Pudding, the fact that she is not outright saying Sanji name makes me think she is being honest now. If she was pretending to fall for him, it would be easy to just say "I want to protect Sanji friends", it would make her more sincere in Chiffon eyes. But refusing to say his name makes me feel like she is still a bit ashamed of what she is feeling right now.

                                                                                              The Zeus part was fun, Prometheus and Elbaf Spear were monstrous. Still in love with Linlin just wearing that pirate bandana on her head. As for the BMP: Brulee getting a break is well deserved, I still want to know little-kid-with-baggy-eyes name, Katakuri is one of the very few cool serious edgy guys that I like (maybe because, as everyone is saying, he is not trying to look cool by coming over his enemies and underestimating them)... But, again, WHERE IS SMOOTHIE??? I thought she would be going after Bege, but apparently not...

                                                                                              Also, I can't wait to post "the cake theory is getting more likely" in every thread 5 arcs from now.
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                                                                                              If they'd seen their ship was destroyed just now, they would have avoided going that way.

                                                                                              So what? BM is after them, the seducing woods is just a small obstacle compared to that.

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                                                                                                I wouldn't be surprised if the Big Mom Pirates wanted to take the Thousand Sunny for themselves after seeing how it impressively got away from Big Mom's ship with Coup de Burst.

                                                                                                Spoiler:

                                                                                                "Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."

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                                                                                                  At first i dislike how easy for zeus to be manipulated like that. but then i remembered that he has the soul of mama whose main trait is gluttony. so i'll let that one go.

                                                                                                  sanji wanting to be nami's slave is pretty funny.

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                                                                                                  Maybe we get a Groot-like revival for king baum:ninja:

                                                                                                  i wouldn't mind baby baum as nakama.

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                                                                                                    Chapter was certainly better than the spoilers led me to believe. That would be cool if Nami got to keep him but he will probably be seduced and tricked by another woman. Curious to see how they will get BM crew off the ship, if they stay on the ship I think Jimbe, Pedro, and Sanji will be the best bet to fight him. Using the water as an advantage since he is a DF user, possibly bring him out into the sea and try to drown him. However wouldn't Jimbe's fishman karate be able to use the ocean in it's attacks or direct a stream of water at Katakuri.

                                                                                                    Yeah seems like early foreshadowing of Luffy getting some kind of weapon or else why mention that. Because his attacks are already destructive so he wasn't pointing out the weapons destructive power.

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                                                                                                      At first i dislike how easy for zeus to be manipulated like that. but then i remembered that he has the soul of mama whose main trait is gluttony. so i'll let that one go.

                                                                                                      sanji wanting to be nami's slave is pretty funny.

                                                                                                      i wouldn't mind baby baum as nakama.

                                                                                                      And let's not forget big mom created Zeus when she was a child/young teen. I would assume that unlike linlin, Zeus wouldn't progress after his creation.

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                                                                                                        Surprised to see Luffy just left KB behind when Prometheus attacked. Not that he could do much in that situation, but still weird. Well, he is acting almost entirely OOC in this arc (at least in my opinion), so whatever…

                                                                                                        I don't get the feeling he left KB behind so much as he threw all of them off him to let them escape.

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