Per the Shonen Jump website, Volume 84 is scheduled to be released on February 3, 2017.
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I'm pretty sure the Vinsmokes are going to be this cover's focus. It'd be cool if we got a cover with just the six of them like the Doffy family in Vol. 77. Though Luffy will probably be on there too and maybe the BM Pirates enraged army will be in the background. Background color will probably be a shade of black/gray.
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Per the Shonen Jump website, Volume 84 is scheduled to be released on February 3, 2017.
I'm pretty sure the Vinsmokes are going to be this cover's focus. It'd be cool if we got a cover with just the six of them like the Doffy family in Vol. 77. Though Luffy will probably be on there too and maybe the BM Pirates enraged army will be in the background. Background color will probably be a shade of black/gray.
cant wait to see their official colors
Hmm, well I doubt that Oda's going to do an "all villain" cover for Germa 66, at least not yet. He's only ever done it with Baroque Works, Cipher-Pol 9, and the Doflamingo Pirates. All those were near the finale of the respective arc, and had large casts of bad guys. Maybe we will get something like that, but I'd expect it to come much later & focus on the Big Mom Pirates and/or Germa, however the final matchups of this arc play out.
I think there's a good chance of Nami, Pudding, Brook, Chopper, Pedro, and Carrot appearing, though probably not all of them. I wouldn't doubt a Germa-centric cover either, considering the first few chapters will be all about them. The volume will then transition into revolving around the present situation again, with Luffy beating Cracker, shouting at Sanji, fighting the army, and getting caught. Maybe the cover could have to do with Luffy standing on that spot & confronting Sanji.
Hmm, well I doubt that Oda's going to do an "all villain" cover for Germa 66, at least not yet. He's only ever done it with Baroque Works, Cipher-Pol 9, and the Doflamingo Pirates. All those were near the finale of the respective arc, and had large casts of bad guys. Maybe we will get something like that, but I'd expect it to come much later & focus on the Big Mom Pirates and/or Germa, however the final matchups of this arc play out.
I think there's a good chance of Nami, Pudding, Brook, Chopper, Pedro, and Carrot appearing, though probably not all of them. I wouldn't doubt a Germa-centric cover either, considering the first few chapters will be all about them. The volume will then transition into revolving around the present situation again, with Luffy beating Cracker, shouting at Sanji, fighting the army, and getting caught. Maybe the cover could have to do with Luffy standing on that spot & confronting Sanji.
To be fair though, a Germa 66 cover is not just about showcasing a group of antagonists. It's about showing off the secret and deadly family of a main character in Sanji, not to mention his flashback and Sanji brutalizing Luffy being in the covered chapters (just like how the Doflamingo Family cover was for the volume that included Law's flashback, I believe). I find it hard to see Oda resist making a volume cover for the Vinsmoke Family to show off the tragic family of one of his original main characters since the first 100 chapters of the series.
I guess the title will be "Luffy vs Sanji" and it will showcase Luffy and Sanji and the Vinsmoke family as kids.
Unrevealed: Loki/Rocks/the man marked by flames/Im-san
Island: Elbaf/Raftel/GodValley
Unresolved: Weevil´s plan/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan
DFWind/Metal/Acid/Liquid/Time-Stop
@Don:
I guess the title will be "Luffy vs Sanji" and it will showcase Luffy and Sanji and the Vinsmoke family as kids.
"I Shall Never Forget The Debt That I Owe You", "Vinsmoke Sanji", "Luffy vs Sanji", and "Goodbye" are all fitting titles to me. But I agree that "Luffy vs Sanji" is the best.
I never thought about a volume cover depicting Luffy and other crewmates as kids. That would actually be really refreshing! But I'm still expecting Sanji and his family, and maybe Luffy preparing to fight the Enraged Army in the foreground or background or something. And maybe Pudding and/or Zeff in a corner or something lol, I just hope it isn't too crowded beyond the Vinsmokes.
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@Count:
I never thought about a volume cover depicting Luffy and other crewmates as kids. That would actually be really refreshing!
Not a volume cover but still
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But we had Robin as a kid featured on volume 41^^
Having the Vinsmoke family as kids on the cover would showcase the flashback happening in the volume, while Luffy and Sanji get a cool pose.
Unrevealed: Loki/Rocks/the man marked by flames/Im-san
Island: Elbaf/Raftel/GodValley
Unresolved: Weevil´s plan/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan
DFWind/Metal/Acid/Liquid/Time-Stop
@Don:
Not a volume cover but still
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But we had Robin as a kid featured on volume 41^^
Having the Vinsmoke family as kids on the cover would showcase the flashback happening in the volume, while Luffy and Sanji get a cool pose.
I know about that color spread. I loved that color spread the first time I saw it lol.
Oh yeah, I forgot about Robin. XD
The Vinsmokes as kids would be sweet. But I also feel like this might be the only fitting chance to have the Vinsmoke Family in present time take an awkward family picture.
Given its ending, I think chapter 849 will be the last one in this volume. Pudding's goodbye in the previous chapter would have worked too, but Reiju being injured is too good a hook not to use. I doubt there's any chance we won't be seeing Vinsmokes here. They're simply too prominent not to use. Perhaps Vinsmoke Sanji as the title, to emphasise his apparent deviation to their side.
Since each of the Vinsmoke kids has an associated colour, it'd be cool to see those play into the cover design. Perhaps a stripe of each in the middle square that's such a central part of Oda's covers, and something that would compliment them for the background?
I think the title will be vinsmoke sanji
Have we ever had a _______ vs _______ volume title on two individual characters? This article is very heavily sanji centric so I think it we'll have that and the family there, maybe encircling the outside and luffy and sa facing opposite directions in the middle
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So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
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I think the title will be vinsmoke sanji
Have we ever had a _______ vs _______ volume title on two individual characters? This article is very heavily sanji centric so I think it we'll have that and the family there, maybe encircling the outside and luffy and sa facing opposite directions in the middle
The closest we've had are "Pirates vs. CP9" and "100,000 vs. 10". No two individual characters. I agree that "Vinsmoke Sanji" is the most likely title, although "Luffy vs. Sanji" might rake in more interest from casual fans with how crazy fan bases can get over hero vs. hero conflicts.
Honestly, all the chapter titles in this volume (except for "Tamago's Security") would make cool volume titles. "Luffy vs. Sanji" seems more likely though.
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Honestly, all the chapter titles in this volume (except for "Tamago's Security") would make cool volume titles. "Luffy vs. Sanji" seems more likely though.
I don't think "Chobro in the Land of Mirrors" would be an apt title for the highlight of the tenuous flashback and conflicts in the first several chapters. That was the title of Chapter 849, which might be the closing chapter of this volume unless Chapter 850 pulls a bigger end twist than an injured Reiju.
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"Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."
@Count:
I don't think "Chobro in the Land of Mirrors" would be an apt title for the highlight of the tenuous flashback and conflicts in the first several chapters. That was the title of Chapter 849, which might be the closing chapter of this volume unless Chapter 850 pulls a bigger end twist than an injured Reiju.
Yeah I agree, was saying that with the mindset that 848 would be the final one.
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@Kaido:
Yeah I agree, was saying that with the mindset that 848 would be the final one.
Perfectly understandable.
Chapter 850 would be the perfect closer to this volume with that ominous ending. Especially with it having so much focus on the Vinsmokes and Sanji accepting his fate with the wedding.
I was sure 849 would be the last, given how uncommon 12 chapter volumes are, but my god 850's final page would be a hell of a note to end on. All of the last three chapters have just been steadily escalating cliffhangers, and they would make the last quarter of the book a wild ride for anyone reading for the first time in that format. It still sits within pagecount expectations as well, in spite of being on the long end of the spectrum.
And it'd be a great start to the 20th anniversary year having a longer than normal volume with everything from the Germa flashbacks to this launching in February. There's seriously a lot of great content in this one.
On the other hand, you could argue that the Reiju cliffhanger works better when the reader has some time to sit and consider it after it comes out of nowhere on the final page, as opposed to resolving the whodunnit less than twenty pages later.
Vol 84: 10 chapters ends with "goodbye", or 12 chapters ends with " ray of hope". Hard choice. Good luck Oda.
Vol 84: 10 chapters ends with "goodbye", or 12 chapters ends with " ray of hope". Hard choice. Good luck Oda.
Yeah, this is pretty much what it boils down to. I really hope it ends with the latter though. Ending on eleven chapters with "Bropper in Mirrorland" with an injured Reiju out of nowhere would feel like too much of a cheap and random tease than a satisfying climax that compels me to continue reading.
The volume would have fitting bookends by starting with the Vinsmokes reuniting and ending with the plan to assassinate them.
Amazon Japan has updated it's Volume 84 listing and according to it the volume will consist 200 pages which i assume will be 10 chapters from chapter 839 - I owe you my life to 848 - Goodbye.
Amazon Japan has updated it's Volume 84 listing and according to it the volume will consist 200 pages which i assume will be 10 chapters from chapter 839 - I owe you my life to 848 - Goodbye.
The math checks out, that'll be our chapters this time around.
Twelve chapters would have been nice to see again, but this way we'll have volume 85 moving a mile a minute with all the twists and revelations we now know fill its opening chapters.
Ending a volume with chapter 848 is very cruel.
Ending a volume with chapter 848 is very cruel.
Nah. It works with Pudding saying goodbye and how, at the time, people were convinced that she would either try to run away like Lola or attempt committing suicide. What would have TRULY been cruel is if the volume ended on 849 with the random injured Reiju twist cliffhanger.
Spoiler:
"Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."
Nah. It works with Pudding saying goodbye and how, at the time, people were convinced that she would either try to run away like Lola or attempt committing suicide. What would have TRULY been cruel is if the volume ended on 849 with the random injured Reiju twist cliffhanger.
It's actually terribly cruel as is.
Volume and JUMP fans are fiercely divided in Japan. They're unable to talk with each other and this has created very specific online communities that don't interact. This makes things very difficult for fans to come together at a time when it's very important for the series to gain back some of its faded glory.
It's actually terribly cruel as is.
Volume and JUMP fans are fiercely divided in Japan. They're unable to talk with each other and this has created very specific online communities that don't interact. This makes things very difficult for fans to come together at a time when it's very important for the series to gain back some of its faded glory.
Really? That's interesting. Isn't JUMP pretty cheap over there? I thought people buy JUMP and then collect their favorite series. So does that mean there are people ONLY following OP through volumes?
It's actually terribly cruel as is.
Volume and JUMP fans are fiercely divided in Japan. They're unable to talk with each other and this has created very specific online communities that don't interact. This makes things very difficult for fans to come together at a time when it's very important for the series to gain back some of its faded glory.
Seriously? That's messed up. Maybe I can understand a bit of it coming from the volume community perhaps not wanting spoilers from weekly Jump chapters, but that degree of bad blood from the one of your text sounds like that relationship is just absurdly antagonistic for the sake of it.
It's actually terribly cruel as is.
Volume and JUMP fans are fiercely divided in Japan. They're unable to talk with each other and this has created very specific online communities that don't interact. This makes things very difficult for fans to come together at a time when it's very important for the series to gain back some of its faded glory.
This is news to me, but I guess not unexpected. The volumes are just close enough behind the magazine you could call yourself up to date, but far enough behind that you still risk huge spoilers. I have friends who won't watch shows like Game of Thrones, for the most obvious example, until a season is ended and will avoid weekly discussions with extreme prejudice, creating a rift when they're in a group with people who watch in other ways. Increase the scale from happening for ten weeks once a year there to happening all year long for 20 years running and I can see where the vitriol comes from.
So does that mean there are people ONLY following OP through volumes?
Yes indeed.
Wait, why? Is One Piece selling bad?
It's still huge. But just looking at Gold's reception is an accurate depiction of the ramifications of a plodding comic arc followed by an insultingly paced animation and the increasing broadcast purchase costs that causes the anime to be up to THREE WEEKS behind the Tokyo broadcast in many parts of the country with 2AM time-slots.
Yeah.
Wait, why? Is One Piece selling bad?
Bad is relative:
If something is touching 0 it means no data.
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Yep. The manga is performing as it needs to. It's not killing it like it was because people aren't picking up the series for the first time in droves.
….Buuut that also means people aren't picking it up for the first time in droves.
The problem is in the broadcast.
The broadcast is the easiest way to spread the series among the target audiences and it's not succeeding in doing that.
As an elementary school teacher, I have my fingers on the beating pulse of Japan's harshest critics, 5th and 6th graders. Without fail, what they find interesting is going to be a hit across the country. Whereas in 2011 just mentioning OP in a classroom would have the entire class in a whirlwind of excitement, now it gets a lukewarm response from about 1/3 with maybe a few super fans.
This is reality. Oda said himself that readership turnover is about 5 years. OP is in a relative to itself slump and that's to be expected. But, certain concerned and responsible parties need to get with the times and realize that anime/manga gap aside, all fans should be as close as possible to being on the same page.
Having to shut up about something like Pudding for three months is going to be terrible for people over here (not me of course).
tldr: Dividing the fans is not bright at this very important time.
As an elementary school teacher, I have my fingers on the beating pulse of Japan's harshest critics, 5th and 6th graders. Without fail, what they find interesting is going to be a hit across the country. Whereas in 2011 just mentioning OP in a classroom would have the entire class in a whirlwind of excitement, now it gets a lukewarm response from about 1/3 with maybe a few super fans.
This is reality. Oda said himself that readership turnover is about 5 years. OP is in a relative to itself slump and that's to be expected. But, certain concerned and responsible parties need to get with the times and realize that anime/manga gap aside, all fans should be as close as possible to being on the same page.
Those two datapoints are very interesting to me. What is the next big thing with the younglings?
It's still huge. But just looking at Gold's reception is an accurate depiction of the ramifications of a plodding comic arc followed by an insultingly paced animation and the increasing broadcast purchase costs that causes the anime to be up to THREE WEEKS behind the Tokyo broadcast in many parts of the country with 2AM time-slots.
Yeah.
How much is the possibility of these problems getting fixed soon? or fixed at all?
Also, do you think One Piece reception will remain stagnant?
I got a feeling that this might not last for too long, specially with a pretty hyped up arc (Wano), and the fast paced storytelling Oda has been adapting to lately.
The broadcasting issue sounds pretty bad, hope that won't be the case soon enough somehow.
How much is the possibility of these problems getting fixed soon? or fixed at all?
It can't be fixed. One Piece volumes sales are going down because:
One Piece had a big boost during Marineford because the story was at his peak with Ace dying and at that time Strong World came out and it was the first time Oda was involved with the movies. All of this made a big boost in the One Piece franchise. Can this happen again? no. The hype surrounding One Piece is gone in Japan. The movies aren't special anymore it's just "oh there is a new one piece movie out, whatever" while before it was "wow did you hear that? Oda made a movie! Strong world??! let's go!". I think the japaneses had an overdose of One Piece because it was spammed in every media and advertising. The medias have overfed the Japaneses with One Piece. And the story has been mediocre since Fishman island. Dressrosa was so-so…All of this can explain why One Piece selling are going down.
If Shanks dies maybe another boost will happen? I don't think so because Ace was a lot more popular than Shanks. The final arc with all the characters involved? Who knows... And keep in mind that the boost happened in 2010/2011 and at that time One Piece story had 55 volumes. Today, a teenage boy who wants to get the whole One Piece collection needs to buy 84 volumes, and this is going to increase until probably 120+ volumes. That's a lot of money to spend that's why it is very unlikely to see another boost in the One Piece franchise.
As for the anime one piece, you probably already know how it is, it can't be saved.
I understand your concerns but what can be done?
One piece is a 20 years old series and Oda does the best he can.
Is it not natural for people not be attached to a series after 20 years and have developed other priorities,hobbies?
To me it's a very natural outcome that you have to acknowledge,of course, but then… what can or must be done about it? Except from this desired unification of the fans?
I ask out of pure curiosity.
It is still the only series I know to sell about 2.5 million units per volume alongside maybe Attack on Titan, so….Why even bother?
It is still the only series I know to sell about 2.5 million units per volume alongside maybe Attack on Titan, so….Why even bother?
That too. It is inevitable to compare with the ''good times'', however the good times represented the ultimate coco bananas level of success for a manga , while today it's just unbelievable polular and still with no other manga to compare with.
Having to shut up about something like Pudding for three months is going to be terrible for people over here (not me of course).
Iam glad i don´t have to start the series right now, or else i would have been spoiled with such big twists as Robin joining etc from the get go^^
Being spoiled is always a possibility when you ain´t reading something up to date, but that´s the prize every long running series comes with.
So not having awesome twists, which will be revealed in a later volume, would be a far greater misstep by Oda in my eyes.
I understand that it´s important that people talk about their favorite scenes to spread the love for this series, but honestly, those who wanna talk about recent events should be able to find enough people who are following this series just as closely as themselves, without them having to be assholes who ruin the fun for others^^
Unrevealed: Loki/Rocks/the man marked by flames/Im-san
Island: Elbaf/Raftel/GodValley
Unresolved: Weevil´s plan/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan
DFWind/Metal/Acid/Liquid/Time-Stop
Maybe it's time to revert back to having 9 chapter volumes again? If the problem is a divide in the manga fandom, then maybe having the volumes release a little bit sooner could aid in keeping the volume-only readers closer to the discussion.
Speaking of readers, are 5th and 6th graders not as engaged with Sanji's dilemma and the Big Mom pirates? Do they find Whole Cake Island not worth discussing as much as prior story arcs?
Maybe the marriage politics and the food setting of WCI isn't resonating with younger readers?
As for the anime broadcast, I can see it being a big problem and I'm not surprised.
The anime adaptation of Zou started strong with stellar art direction and okay pacing, but now three chapters worth of content has been stretched over four episodes.
Despite the drops of new information revealed, things aren't moving. The Straw Hats spend over three episodes in one room and for a casual viewer, they would find that extremely boring.
How much is the possibility of these problems getting fixed soon? or fixed at all?
The animation is unclear but I can't imagine it going back to what it was (i.e. filler arcs, nationwide standard broadcast, golden time slot)
The manga has been doing gangbusters since end of DR and I think fans will warm up over the course of the year if they handle the 20th celebrations appropriately and target the audiences they should be.
Also, do you think One Piece reception will remain stagnant?
Nope. I think Oda's call of 5 year reader turnaround is accurate. It would take a miracle to reach Strong World - Z- era sales again but that was a sales miracle. The magic cocktail of Paramount War and Strong World's Volume 0 might be possible to replicate in Wano and DEFINITELY in the final saga.
Maybe it's time to revert back to having 9 chapter volumes again? If the problem is a divide in the manga fandom, then maybe having the volumes release a little bit sooner could aid in keeping the volume-only readers closer to the discussion.
Yeah, there's not one given problem but rather many small ones that could be alleviated in this modern age to ensure that the fan community is as linked and sociable as possible. I would love to see a return to the '2 month, 2 month, 3 month' tank release schedule from days of yore but that's gone the same was as 21-22 page chapters.
Speaking of readers, are 5th and 6th graders not as engaged with Sanji's dilemma and the Big Mom pirates? Do they find Whole Cake Island not worth discussing as much as prior story arcs? Maybe the marriage politics and the food setting of WCI isn't resonating with younger readers?
Most youngsters are anime fans first, manga fans second. Super fans will read JUMP but I'm talking specifically about the average elementary-age fan. That is to say, most of them are still in Zou. Those few who know what's going on in JUMP or tanks ARE interested and fan response across the ages has been quite popular to the current arc. I haven't heard much criticism of it, actually not any on the JP side.
The anime adaptation of Zou started strong with stellar art direction and okay pacing, but now three chapters worth of content has been stretched over four episodes.
Despite the drops of new information revealed, things aren't moving. The Straw Hats spend over three episodes in one room and for a casual viewer, they would find that extremely boring.
Which, for me, as an adult fan this is a problem. But for the target audience (which according to commercials is divided between elementary students and 20-30-something females) -i.e. Gin, Ace, Marco, Law, Thatch, Sabo fans- who aren't familiar with the entire story (it's not uncommon for fans to 'like' the series but not own the whole series) it's a necessary evil. I don't mind the explanation stops. It's the ooc slapstick and silent shock pauses that kill me.
Those few who know what's going on in JUMP or tanks ARE interested and fan response across the ages has been quite popular to the current arc. I haven't heard much criticism of it, actually not any on the JP side.
That's interesting. Are there any other big differences in arc reception between the English and Japanese communities? I heard they didn't like Skypeia that much (at least while it was ongoing), and really love Alabasta.
Maybe it's time to revert back to having 9 chapter volumes again? If the problem is a divide in the manga fandom, then maybe having the volumes release a little bit sooner could aid in keeping the volume-only readers closer to the discussion.
I think that ship has sailed, so to speak, with the fall of the average pagecount of a chapter. At the start of the series 19 pages was the average, with very occasional jumps up to 21. Now, we get 17 most weeks, 19 sometimes (mostly on an issue with a colour spread coming after a break) and occasional drops down to 15. Chapter 760 had an unprecedentedly low 13 pages.
9 chapters in a volume made for about 170 pages of actual content then, up to 190ish with all the stuff a published book needs plus SBSs and Usopp Gallery and so on, and even then those volumes still look noticably thinner on the shelf next to the others. Doing 9 chapters with the average pagecount today gives the reader a mere 153 pages of comic to look at. That's around 170 after publishing, against the 200+ pages the volumes with more chapters have been giving us. You'd have to pad it to hell and back with extra content on the end to make it look remotely as large as the rest of the series. Readers are going to be disappointed when when they pay full price for a book and find it's so visibly thinner than the ones on either side of it on the shelf. I know I wouldn't be super happy.
You can blame whatever you like for the falling pagecounts - Oda's health, the increasing complexity of each page, or a combination of the two. (The counts first dropped during the battle of Marineford, then picked back up kinda tentatively from the post battle story through to the middle of Dressrosa, where they fell back to what they are now.) But it's a fact of how One Piece presently is. Unless Oda changes up how he's producing each chapter, a 9 chapter volume doesn't seem viable. Another solution needs to be found.
The anime adaptation of Zou started strong with stellar art direction and okay pacing, but now three chapters worth of content has been stretched over four episodes.
Despite the drops of new information revealed, things aren't moving. The Straw Hats spend over three episodes in one room and for a casual viewer, they would find that extremely boring.
Doing multiple episodes of one chapter happened even in the earlier parts of Zou, and that's happened over quite a few arcs now. Also, they spend just as long in the Whale Tree in the manga (817 to 820) with everything in there being infodumps and the formation of the alliance. Heck Zou is really nothing but an infodump arc.
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Bad is relative:
If something is touching 0 it means no data.
Yep. The manga is performing as it needs to. It's not killing it like it was because people aren't picking up the series for the first time in droves.
….Buuut that also means people aren't picking it up for the first time in droves.
The problem is in the broadcast.
The broadcast is the easiest way to spread the series among the target audiences and it's not succeeding in doing that.
As an elementary school teacher, I have my fingers on the beating pulse of Japan's harshest critics, 5th and 6th graders. Without fail, what they find interesting is going to be a hit across the country. Whereas in 2011 just mentioning OP in a classroom would have the entire class in a whirlwind of excitement, now it gets a lukewarm response from about 1/3 with maybe a few super fans.
This is reality. Oda said himself that readership turnover is about 5 years. OP is in a relative to itself slump and that's to be expected. But, certain concerned and responsible parties need to get with the times and realize that anime/manga gap aside, all fans should be as close as possible to being on the same page.
Having to shut up about something like Pudding for three months is going to be terrible for people over here (not me of course).
tldr: Dividing the fans is not bright at this very important time.
Oh, I see. Wow, I had no idea One Piece's sales dropped that much…. But that kinda makes sense, thank you for the explanation Greg!
That is to say, most of them are still in Zou. Those few who know what's going on in JUMP or tanks ARE interested and fan response across the ages has been quite popular to the current arc. I haven't heard much criticism of it, actually not any on the JP side.
Do you know how was the reception of Dressrosa in Japan? I have always wondered since the arc was heavily criticized by many of english readers.
@Kaido:
Doing multiple episodes of one chapter happened even in the earlier parts of Zou, and that's happened over quite a few arcs now. Also, they spend just as long in the Whale Tree in the manga (817 to 820) with everything in there being infodumps and the formation of the alliance. Heck Zou is really nothing but an infodump arc.
Normally by Infodump people mean this -> "an act or practice of presenting an indigestible or incomprehensible amount of information all at once". Something that no part of Zou was, in fact how the information was provided to the reader and the watcher were specially taken in consideration!
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That's interesting. Are there any other big differences in arc reception between the English and Japanese communities? I heard they didn't like Skypeia that much (at least while it was ongoing), and really love Alabasta.
As far as I know the middle volume of Skypiea got the best print at the time, 2.63M, being for a long time the most manga volume printed.
I hope that Shueisha and Toei do the 20th aniversary justice, for One Piece to lose the yearly top spot during a big aniversary, and while being the eldest series in Jump would be unbecoming.
Do you know how was the reception of Dressrosa in Japan? I have always wondered since the arc was heavily criticized by many of english readers.
Very similar to the reception of Skypiea. 'It's not 'bad' just long and meandering.' It lost many casual fans that way.
Which is…true. Moreso than Skypiea ^o^
