Man, it took me two reads to realize Big Mom was talking to her hat. I love it!
Chapter 838: "Bropper"
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It's a shame, I preferred by far the grizzled big guy design for Cracker :sad:
And +1 on getting tired with the ass-pulled cloning powers we're seeing lately
Anyway, now we know Cracker can't stand pain, my money is on Nami and her newfound homies brigade somehow intervening after Luffy's time limit puts him in a shitty situation. Cue memorable scolding.
That or Capone turns up and makes a backstabbing move on the weakened Cracker. -
Another 2 weeks of power level arguing, god I hope this fight is resolved in the next chapter.
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I think everyone is jumping to conclusions, we can always go back in time to the fight in 2 weeks. I don't think the fight is over and done with per-say however the fact he can't take pain is a huge weakness for him.
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it did,he even said that it did
Nah, Oda really didn't show it affecting him aside from when Luffy said you must be hurting from Law's attack. But that was before G4 happened. The anime though basically had every other episode showing Doffy reacting to it.
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Good chapter, cracker seems very strong, even managed to wound luffy in G4, which doffy couldn't. Yonkou's commanders are living up to the expectations. Still believe Luffy could defeat him ( independently of cracker's presumed pain weakness) but hewould really have to go all out. Interesting development inside the mirror world, even though if it really is connected to all the mirrors on the island brûlée looks like an idiot for leaving them wandering unchecked inside, where they could, and probably will, find something important. And good to see shanks again, what Island and wedding might that be?
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Woooowwww, this chapter.. i'm shuddering so much *like reading in the office and cannot hide the excitement here and there
Well rounded chapter. The match is so good, the power is believable to overpower Luffy, and the set up that the probability is almost zero. Perfect. Cause Strawhats, will make things happened, and we love that !
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Is Sanji genuinely scared on the final spread? Damn.
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@Phoenix:
Nah, Oda really didn't show it affecting him aside from when Luffy said you must be hurting from Law's attack. But that was before G4 happened.
when both the protagonist and doflamingo itself say it did had an effect,i'm inclined to think it had,even if i'm not seeing doffy coughing up blood every two minutes
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Wait a second. Cracker's army aren't even clones….
Edit : at least not clones of him. -
I'm glad that the original Cracker doesn't skip leg day and look like a joke. Plus he managed to cut through Luffy's haki in G4, which means he already is superior to Doflamingo.
Also, if Cracker would have succeeded Big Mom would have known the results of his job. Because pretty much time has been passed. Yet they still don't know whether he accomplished the task or not. Which means Luffy and Nami probably won. -
Cracker looks like a Fairy Tail villain. And Sanji's brothers have this ugly emo-look. A shame. and lol. his elders don't even have a beard.
So the shichibukai are meh, cracker seems to be a beast
there has never been such things like "shichibukai level" so doesn't make any sense to say they are meh. since Hancock, Kuma and Weeble are damn strong are quit strong and Mihawk has a yonkou level.
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when both the protagonist and doflamingo itself say it did had an effect,i'm inclined to think it had,even if i'm not seeing doffy coughing up blood every two minutes
Well Oda screwed that up then. Since he made no mention of that post G4 reveal.
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@Phoenix:
Well Oda screwed that up then. Since he made no mention of that post G4 reveal.
do you really needed to be reminded that doffy was weakened every X chapters?
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Thoughts on the chapter:
- Who the hell is getting married? Shanks?
- Holy shit rhat reveal of crackers true form!
- Jeez Oda gear 4 ain't doing shit to cracker and Luffy got cut.
- Love naming being a badass and loading it over the homies.
- Sanji looks genuinely scared of ichiji and niji. can't wait to see their powers
- Of course oda is going on break. oh welll take it easy oda you deserve it.
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do you really needed to be reminded that doffy was weakened every X chapters?
If Oda wanted to downplay that G4 massacre then yes? Hell, Oda had no problem showing us Luffy's lack of haki weakness and the countdown until he got back up. If Oda wanted to hype up that Gamma knife injury, he could've had some panels of him not being able to reach Luffy since it was still affecting him but instead all we got was panels of Doflamingo talking about all that G4 hype.
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98,5% sure that Sanji final fight on this arc will be him vs Bro#1 and Bro#2. 2 people at the same time. That will make quite hype!
Yes we can
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…Red, Blue, Black, Green, Pink.
...So, uh, when are the Vinsmoke's gonna reveal their giant combining robot again?
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Is Cracker capable of withstanding king-kong gun ? What do you think, guys ?
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Holy clunky exposition Batman! Cracker explaining his ability like that is bleachesque writing to be honest. Oda shouldn't stoop to the level of having villains explain their power. I would honestly have preferred Cracker to remain in his original form. I also can't understand why all of a sudden we get a time jump. Maybe the battle should have been concluded beforehand? Not pleased with the development in this chapter one bit.
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Orgins of Cracker's powers : Oda ate a really hard biscuit.
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Next chapter, pretty sure the flashback is beginning.
…Red, Blue, Black, Green, Pink.
…So, uh, when are the Vinsmoke's gonna reveal their giant combining robot again?
Sanji vs the whole Family
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@John:
Next chapter, pretty sure the flashback is beginning.
I would think he would save the flashbacks until the SH reveal. We'll probably follow the Sanji brothers for now.
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Let's talk Brulee and Cracker
They're the 8th daughter and 10th son, so assuming roughly an equal birth rate of sons and daughters (only roughly, as we know there are more sons than daughters, though not by much, and that Pound gave her two daughters in a row), their births and ages would be pretty close together, and they likely would have grown up side by side.
Interestingly, they both have rather similar facial scars. Cracker's is wider, and they both go diagonally in different directions, but it's still an odd trait to share coincidentally. Not to mention they both seem to have suffered some kind of trauma in the past: Brulee thinks she's hideous and has a violent envy of Nami and Carrot's traditional beauty, which is obviously related directly to her scar. Cracker claims to abhor ever the smallest amounts of pain, and avoids it at all costs, which means that whichever battle resulted in his wound must have either been one hell of a loss, or it's the source of his phobia.
Clearly Cracker and Brulee each have a bit of history that was permanently damaging physically and emotionally, but maybe, just maybe, it was the same event for the two of them. Maybe when they were kids, hence the psychological issues.
Or maybe it's nothing and Oda just likes drawing scars.
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How did Pedro and Brook manage to enter inside one of Cracker biscuit clone?
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Shank's front page is definitely going to be a surprise that affects the main story.
Also luffy's fight = cliffhanger? I'm assuming he'll somehow win and we won't see it…..
Oh Sanji is literally the BLACK sheep of the family.
Wonder if big mom's powers affect Brook?
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How did Pedro and Brook manage to enter inside one of Cracker biscuit clone?
Pedro is the 4th Sweet Commander. He knows things.
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@Phoenix:
Pedro is the 4th Sweet Commander. He knows things.
oh yeah…..never thought about that. wonder if he truly got defeated then? or if he faked getting defeated in order to leave the big mom pirates.
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oh yeah…..never thought about that. wonder if he truly got defeated then? or if he faked getting defeated in order to leave the big mom pirates.
I would hope he faked it becuase that would mean that he actually lost to Urogue if it was a legit win.
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FINALLY the cover story is over! It took forever to end and oh I was hating it. And this last addition was actually interesting with the mysterious wedding.
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Last week I said I love when a "fodder looking" character like Cracker turn out to be one of the strongest guys around, so I was disappointed with the reveal of his identity. Still, his real appearance is cool enough and I like his pun-intended hair.
The power though… A strong guy with the power of biscuits should be really interesting, but in the end it is used as a generic element-kind-of power. It is no different from Doflamingo using his strings to make clones, or anyone using anything to do the same. I hope we can see some uses that feel more uniquely related to the biscuit theme. -
I love how BM seems disappointed Luffy didn't arrived yet. Feels like she was actually hoping he would have defeated Cracker long ago.
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Vinsmoke kidzzZZZzzzzzZZ...
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do you really needed to be reminded that doffy was weakened every X chapters?
they both were weakened and they both acknowledged that, tho you can't blame everything injuries him being beaten senseless by gear 4th is clearly due to a huge difference in skill and power it had nothing to do with him or luffy being weakened
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@Phoenix:
Pedro is the 4th Sweet Commander. He knows things.
i think that if he really was a sweet commander…the guards would have all known about him instead of just tamago
also,the defeat of the 4th seat seems something relatively recent,while pedro doesn't seem someone that just arrived on zou..although we have no time reference for either the battle between urouge and when was the last time pedro went at sea
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Omg its Shanks….
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@John:
Next chapter, pretty sure the flashback is beginning.
Sanji vs the whole Family
He'll beat them all of course5 course beatdown.
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Come on Oda can't off panel a Luffy win like this, he has to have lost.
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Cracker's powers reminded me of those theories saying how the real Doflamingo was actually a tiny being inside his bigger body
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Cracker's real appearance and true power was a neat reveal, but yeah… a bit disappointed that Oda just resorted to letting him explain his own power while boasting, which is an exceptionally dumb move for a fighter imo. Maybe it was just to emphasis on his cocky arrogance and confidence, but still not a big fan of such a method.
Especially the fact that he seemed to downright tell Luffy his weakness (his real body being less durable than his biscuits).
↑Biological Weaopn of Doom and Destruction
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How did Pedro and Brook manage to enter inside one of Cracker biscuit clone?
Cuz they're both so damn sneaky.
Maybe Brook put the soldier to sleep and that's when they went inside.
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@le:
Cracker's real appearance and true power was a neat reveal, but yeah… a bit disappointed that Oda just resorted to letting him explain his own power while boasting, which is an exceptionally dumb move for a fighter imo. Maybe it was just to emphasis on his cocky arrogance and confidence, but still not a big fan of such a method.
Especially the fact that he seemed to downright tell Luffy his weakness (his real body being less durable than his biscuits).
he just said that he doesn't like pain,not that he isn't durable
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he just said that he doesn't like pain,not that he isn't durable
Well if so it will be hilarious if we get a Pearl scenario from him :ninja:
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Cracker wants to teach Luffy a lesson that there is always someone more powerful, no matter how hard you try. Which means someone has already taught him that lesson. Which means he still is unreachable for Cracker. But given that he is top tier of yonko with 860 mln bounty, that someone has to be a real deal. I bet he was the one who left that scar on his face. Wonder who it might be ? First mate ? Big Mom ? Or Mihawk ?
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I agree that Cracker is most probably beaten and the SH is just waiting for the opportune time to crash Big Mom's place. It'll be funny if, after all that incredible CoA, Cracker really can't take any pain and Luffy just one-shot him.
I imagine that Chopper and Carrot should find Brulee, beat the crap out of her, and hold her hostage so they can freely use her Mirror World. That's quite a useful ability and reminds me of Knov's from HxH.
I'm really intrigued on how Big Mom sounds disappointed that Luffy can't make good on his "bravado" (I presume, about how he want to take FI out of Big Mom's hands).
Still, I wouldn't dream that that Vivrecard from Lola is gonna be their trump card in the suducing woods. They really luck out on that one.
Sanji getting "shivers" in anticipation of his brothers gets me anxious. However, I'm really looking forward to what he'll do in this arc. I mean, all the Sweets Commanders use foods as weapons. That means, Sanji is allowed to use his hands against them! He has to take out one of them sweet commanders. (Then his family, or just his father, should apologize to the way they treat him in the past and that they really loved him and missed him.)
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Sanji getting "shivers" in anticipation of his brothers gets me anxious. However, I'm really looking forward to what he'll do in this arc. I mean, all the Sweets Commanders use foods as weapons. That means, Sanji is allowed to use his hands against them! He has to take out one of them sweet commanders. (Then his family, or just his father, should apologize to the way they treat him in the past and that they really loved him and missed him.)
Holy shit. I didn't even think about that, you're right.
I'm hyped now.
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All Cracker's power really seems to do is stall for time and drain his opponents stamina, it's OP in a different sense. Not really sure why you would reveal every single thing about your ability the moment your true form is revealed, especially if pain is your weak point.
But Chopper not being cutesy useless is a plus.
Also Shanks wedding?? Wut??
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@Phoenix:
Pedro is the 4th Sweet Commander. He knows things.
If Pedro was the 4th Sweet Commander, that would put him at Yonko commander level…similar to Jack. Not sure about that. I would also think he be way more recognizable if he was a known commander. Only a Minkmen recognized him. The soldiers/homies that talked to Tamago had no clue who Pedro was. They thought he was a leopard mink.
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Cracker's real design is fucking amazing. Might actually be one of my favorite character design in the entire series.
What an awesome chapter this was. Last week i was afraid that after all the hype Cracker was going to get one-shotted by Luffy but it's good to see someone other than Doflamingo giving Luffy challenge for his gear fourth. Really interested to see how Luffy will get out of this situation.
Both Niji and Ichiji are looking awesome, and the panel where Sanji is shivering just from them arriving was really good. Their interactions are gonna be so interesting.
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A few brief thoughts:
-It's not much, but it is nice to see Shanks again. Wonder whose wedding he's at.
-I notice that the two back strands of Cracker's hair appear to be lit. I suppose that would make him a firecracker.
-I'm half-expecting Chopper and Carrot to drop in one of their allies at a very inopportune moment.
-Just noticed that the belts on the Vinsmoke brothers are a reference to their nicknames. Kind of a nice touch.
Overall, I'm happy with this chapter.
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i don't get why people are saying that cracker admitting that he doesn't like pain was such a mistake..it's not like luffy's strategy changes because of that…his option was always "punch him really,really hard",it doesn't really matter if he likes it or not
