I think Shanks might show up at the tea party, he should've heard the news about Luffy's crewmate getting married
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I think Shanks might show up at the tea party, he should've heard the news about Luffy's crewmate getting married
IMO it's too early for that. He said return this hat after you become a great pirate but since marineford he really has only took out one more warlord, and he took out two pre-timeskip ( power level discussions be damned ) so i think he has to beat a yonko first to signify him as being a real heavy hitter
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IMO it's too early for that. He said return this hat after you become a great pirate but since marineford he really has only took out one more warlord, and he took out two pre-timeskip ( power level discussions be damned ) so i think he has to beat a yonko first to signify him as being a real heavy hitter
Yea hes not coming for the promise Luffy made…I think he might just be coming undercover...he does like parties though, he's coming for sake
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At first thought I would say no. Tea parties seem to come often throughout the year for what ever occasion while the Reverie is one event discussing world affairs every 4 years. I suppose their could be some conflict if Big Mom invites a royal to her party and that same royal was expected to attend the Reverie.
Like the Vinsmokes? They're royalty and they also have a seat at the Reverie despite not having a nation to rule over. Plus, the Vinsmoke family is invited to the Tea Party to see one of their own get married to one of BM's daughters. However, we don't know if the Vinsmokes are actually planning to attend the Reverie though.
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I'm so confused about the timeline lol isn't the reverie in about 1-2 days? It is night now so the SHs have been in Totland for about a day? :s
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Like the Vinsmokes? They're royalty and they also have a seat at the Reverie despite not having a nation to rule over. Plus, the Vinsmoke family is invited to the Tea Party to see one of their own get married to one of BM's daughters. However, we don't know if the Vinsmokes are actually planning to attend the Reverie though.
The connection should pay off later with one of the vinsmokes attending
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I'm so confused about the timeline lol isn't the reverie in about 1-2 days?
Remind me where this was said.
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I'm so confused about the timeline lol isn't the reverie in about 1-2 days? It is night now so the SHs have been in Totland for about a day? :s
me too… what should happen first now? and with what delay? Isn't almost at same time?
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Remind me where this was said.
Same. I just re-read the chapter where all of the kingdoms are preparing to leave and none of them mentioned any specific dates.
I don't expect the Reverie to be shown until after Wano though lol. News about the Straw Hats playing a major role in getting such an ethnocentric country to open up its borders is something that would be fittingly discussed about at such an event (along with the fall of a Yonko and all of the Shichibukai abolishment controversy). Not to mention that it would make sense for every kingdom influenced by the Straw Hats' to appear in some fashion.
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Anybody else kinda annoyed and surprised at the bitching about the forrest plot? Seriously they've only been there since chapter 831.
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I have to second true savior here: One Piece isn't some RPG where the enemies continue to get stronger at later levels; if that were true Wapol and Galdino were more powerful than Arlong, and Enel was weaker than Foxy, Lucci, and Moriah. With those examples in mind, you really can't say that the enemies have really been getting stronger, right?
With that in mind, the reason I accuse you of fanboyism is that, in spite of the author saying one thing in regards to Kaidou's power (that being, its best to bet on him in a one-on-one fight versus anyone) , you continue to hold to the notion that Shank is special and exempt from that statement, for a reason that doesn't even make sense in the context of the story.
While he might be right, Wapol isn't a good example. I'd argue it's common for One Piece to have weaker foes leading up to a greater one…and sometimes weaker ones appear again before he gets a true challenge again. That said, there are cases where the big bad of the saga isn't as big as the one previously, which is why I say fair enough with that aspect for the argument.
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I still don't get why everyone thinks the Tea Party=pirate Reverie (not that anyone has explicitly said this). I think the Tea Party will just have Big Mom's family and allies in attendance and that's it. Now, the idea that some other big name (in status or in the fandom) might show up isn't crazy, I just don't get why people treat it as a given. Crocodile, Shanks, Buggy, Luffy will make so many allies during the Tea Party, etc… What??
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I still don't get why everyone thinks the Tea Party=pirate Reverie (not that anyone has explicitly said this). I think the Tea Party will just have Big Mom's family and allies in attendance and that's it. Now, the idea that some other big name (in status or in the fandom) might show up isn't crazy, I just don't get why people treat it as a given. Crocodile, Shanks, Buggy, Luffy will make so many allies during the Tea Party, etc… What??
Some people can't distinguish things that can happen in the manga and things that they want to happen in the manga.
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Anybody else kinda annoyed and surprised at the bitching about the forrest plot? Seriously they've only been there since chapter 831.
That is precisely the reason why the chapter threads are sometimes unbearable to read…I just don't get the people who seem to be personally offended and outraged that Oda is spending more than one chapter in this forest. I found the forest plot very creative and entertaining so far and don't feel at all that it has been going on for too long.
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That is precisely the reason why the chapter threads are sometimes unbearable to read…I just don't get the people who seem to be personally offended and outraged that Oda is spending more than one chapter in this forest. I found the forest plot very creative and entertaining so far and don't feel at all that it has been going on for too long.
Agreed people want to rush the hell out of things just to get to the next big fight…
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That is precisely the reason why the chapter threads are sometimes unbearable to read…I just don't get the people who seem to be personally offended and outraged that Oda is spending more than one chapter in this forest. I found the forest plot very creative and entertaining so far and don't feel at all that it has been going on for too long.
Even worse when realized that in ch 831-835, two chapters weren't even about the forest. How can people complain about being stuck here months when we've only had 3 chapters of focus? 0.o
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Even worse when realized that in ch 831-835, two chapters weren't even about the forest. How can people complain about being stuck here months when we've only had 3 chapters of focus? 0.o
Largely because they suck imo. The complainers that is.
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I still don't get why everyone thinks the Tea Party=pirate Reverie (not that anyone has explicitly said this). I think the Tea Party will just have Big Mom's family and allies in attendance and that's it. Now, the idea that some other big name (in status or in the fandom) might show up isn't crazy, I just don't get why people treat it as a given. Crocodile, Shanks, Buggy, Luffy will make so many allies during the Tea Party, etc… What??
Yea, I get that. But, not all of Big Mom's allies are 100% loyal to her & all have their own agendas..they only marry into the Big Moms family for power and protection..I won't be surprised if Luffy does make some allies out of the tea party. As for some famous people showing up, i wouldn't put it past Oda to web something together out of nothing so lets. Definitely gonna be exciting.
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or some people who want to get out of Big Mom's family but can't without losing an arm or leg so they might find Luffy as their 1 shot to get out and may back him up.
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I really wanna complain about the boring dragging woods, too, but I'm completely unsure what to demand.
So we all know that the woods are boring and way too dragged out as well as that Big Mom definitely is the weakest Yonko leagues behind the likes of Kaido.
But what about Kaido? Of course, he is way stronger than Big Mom, but… is this enough or still too weak? So should I demand a fight between Luffy and Kaido or should I instead demand to immediately start the very final battles and then just roll the credits?
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Everyone is gonna wish Oda dragged a few chapters more when OP does end. Gonna be a day with mixed feelings. Sad/Happy/idkwtftodo
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I really wanna complain about the boring dragging woods, too, but I'm completely unsure what to demand.
So we all know that the woods are boring and way too dragged out as well as that Big Mom definitely is the weakest Yonko leagues behind the likes of Kaido.
But what about Kaido? Of course, he is way stronger than Big Mom, but… is this enough or still too weak? So should I demand a fight between Luffy and Kaido or should I instead demand to immediately start the very final battles and then just roll the credits?
No no no, what's the matter with you.
Kaidou is incredibly super duper powerful because he looks really awesome and has huge muscles. How don't you get that?
Big Mom is obviously weak because she looks silly, wears a polka dot dress, has a crew that looks like a show for babys, andis femaleis not a big huge serious faced muscle person.As for the woods, why should I care about woods. Or cities for that matter. Like big whoop Oda, this is all wallpaper for the fights right? Well somewhere along the line I think our author forgot that? And now is depicting exotic interactive environments like this is some sort of adventure comic book or some shit.
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Big Mom is obviously weak because she looks silly, wears a polka dot dress, has a crew that looks like a show for babys, and
is femaleis not a big huge serious faced muscle person.Good points, however you forgot the most important point why she's that weak: Her incredibly weak DF. She only has soul manipulation powers which cannot do anything to strong people because we already saw and know everything. (Though I guess this may be covered by not being a big serious muscle person already as only them can have strong DF powers…)
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Honestly, and I don't want to be rude but sometimes it's called for, people who jump the gun and assume too much are idiotic. I think after seeing Buggy pull off becoming a warlord they think that just anybody can become a Yonkou too.
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The Vinsmokes have a spot at the Reverie, but that's not where they are right now. So which of these is most likely?
A) They sent a representative to go (I doubt this; I think Judge would want to go himself)
B) Reverie is already over (again doubt it; I think we'll see some more Reverie panels at the end of the arc)
C) They don't really care about Reverie right now because of the weddingI accept Jesus Burgess as my Lord and Savior
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The Vinsmokes have a spot at the Reverie, but that's not where they are right now. So which of these is most likely?
A) They sent a representative to go (I doubt this; I think Judge would want to go himself)
B) Reverie is already over (again doubt it; I think we'll see some more Reverie panels at the end of the arc)
C) They don't really care about Reverie right now because of the weddingWell it's obviously not B lol.
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what happen?! still waiting for the chapter 836
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Someone on the dumb predictions thread mentioned some interesting stuff, with Moria. Just thinking about Gear 4th shadow-powered Luffy brings all kinds horrors to my imagination Shudders it could be the only way for Luffy to actually do some serious damage to Kaido, since even Oda said Luffy will have to come up with something to damage that beast.
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Well it's obviously not B lol.
Are you in the opinion the reverie's after wano because if the vinsmokes get collectively smashed after this arc, they wont really be in that good of shape to go. Maybe im looking at it backwards in that respect but none of them going to the reverie seems odd since oda mentioned it. ( Of course there's the possibility of reiju face turning but im lower on that than I used to be. )
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Someone on the dumb predictions thread mentioned some interesting stuff, with Moria. Just thinking about Gear 4th shadow-powered Luffy brings all kinds horrors to my imagination Shudders it could be the only way for Luffy to actually do some serious damage to Kaido, since even Oda said Luffy will have to come up with something to damage that beast.
Well there's this
Oda "When Kaidou appeared for the first time, I said that Luffy can't defeat such a strong character yet. And I'm yet to know how Luffy would defeat Kaidou. Probably my audience will not be satisfied if the reason for defeating Kaidou is just because Luffy's punch is so strong. Luffy and I have to find a solution somehow." And If we are to believe in subtle forshadowing, dont know about the translation but the point being the strongest person doesnt always win.
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Kaido might be the strongest person alive, but he is not undefeated. As stated in his debut he lost many fights and was captured by the Marines on more than one occasion. That being said I'm imagining Luffy will need help from the Supernovas like he did with Doflamingo to put Kaido down.
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The tea party is 2.5 days away now, and given that the rulers just started traveling a few days ago it's unlikely the Reverie is to happen soon. Once this arc ends, and hopefully Judge is beaten into a pulp, he will either fail to make it to Reverie or come to Reverie with revenge on his mind. Either way, it's going to add another time bomb to the whole thing.
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I hope the tea party ends up being exciting.
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So now that BM's df power is known, then what is up with that tree on her jolly roger? It represents the forest?
The tea party is 2.5 days away now, and given that the rulers just started traveling a few days ago it's unlikely the Reverie is to happen soon. Once this arc ends, and hopefully Judge is beaten into a pulp, he will either fail to make it to Reverie or come to Reverie with revenge on his mind. Either way, it's going to add another time bomb to the whole thing.
if Sanji will be new king of vinsmokes and luffy somehow find out information about the reverie and want to go there, sanji will be his ticket to enter( but still have to be undercover, luffy). But I can only see the reverie before wano, since we had the '' a few days later'' twice, now with the 3 days tea party. After wano would make it too long, since the kings left long ago..
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So now that BM's df power is known, then what is up with that tree on her jolly roger? It represents the forest?
..maybe it represents her family tree, since she has soo many children and lover
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Someone on the dumb predictions thread mentioned some interesting stuff, with Moria. Just thinking about Gear 4th shadow-powered Luffy brings all kinds horrors to my imagination Shudders it could be the only way for Luffy to actually do some serious damage to Kaido, since even Oda said Luffy will have to come up with something to damage that beast.
The way he is unkillable and talked about as the Strongest Living Being its very likely that his devil fruit let him shrug off almost all physical damage. Its also weird for a Yonkou with that reputation that its mentioned how often he has been defeated and captured before, so maybe while its possible to take him out in some way and form in the short term, its almost impossible to do so in the long term.
So its likely that dealing out enough physical damage is not the issue here, but rather to overcome some weird functions of his df. Kinda like fighting Crocodile without Haki. -
Kaidou just needs a reason to live and Luffy is gonna give that to him.
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So now that BM's df power is known, then what is up with that tree on her jolly roger? It represents the forest?
The forest, the tree of life (which makes sense to me), her family tree… it could have many meanings in one.
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Anybody else kinda annoyed and surprised at the bitching about the forrest plot? Seriously they've only been there since chapter 831.
More surprise for me, this kind of stuff happens in One Piece all the time. I look at something like the Seducing Woods as a tour of someplace you've never been before. It gives you a greater sense of appreciation for where you are and makes the whole trip more worthwhile as a result. There are action oriented shonen that get by without paying attention to details like that. Maybe those who have a problem with what's going on in the woods prefer that kind of approach?
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They're just used to a faster pace in One Piece; not the characters (more literally than ever before) running around in circles.
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That said, I'll be okay with it so long as it ends in a chapter or two. I think they've exhausted the confusion plotline there.
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They're just used to a faster pace in One Piece; not the characters (more literally than ever before) running around in circles.
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That said, I'll be okay with it so long as it ends in a chapter or two. I think they've exhausted the confusion plotline there.
How can they be used to faster pace, if things have been like this for 5 years now!
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So… We have a chapter this week, correct?
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Well the entirety of Zou was basically Oda spoiling us weekly readers; we moved on to new developments within a chapter or two.
And the confusion stuff seems to have more or less ended, now we have the Straw Hats realizing just how screwed over they are and trying to figure a way out.
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I'm not sure why people are complaining about Big Mom and her crew, and her land etc. I'm perfectly fine with having a wonky, wacky environment, with, imho, some pretty spooky powers mixed in. Big Mom has some true freaks on her crew, like that Bobbin chap (come on Oda…bring him back...let him be a Sweet Commander, if they are indeed equal to the Calamities of Kaido).
I don't think every Yonko needs to be brute strength, muscular giant men like Whitebeard and Kaido.
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They're just used to a faster pace in One Piece;
Someone with 2007 in their join date should know better than to even let these words get typed on their screen. Let alone post them as if they're not complete nonsense.
not the characters (more literally than ever before) running around in circles.
Yeah that's it. Nothing else is happening, no character introductions, no action sequences (that they claim to enjoy). Just walking in circles.
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To me looks like skilled coo haki users can hide their presence like Sengoku did with The Most skilled coo haki user until now:Fujitora
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Kaido might be the strongest person alive, but he is not undefeated. As stated in his debut he lost many fights and was captured by the Marines on more than one occasion. That being said I'm imagining Luffy will need help from the Supernovas like he did with Doflamingo to put Kaido down.
I would like to see another nightmare Luffy using g4 to take down Kaidou with gomu gomu no storm (after all Oda said that he can't imagine Luffy taking down Kaidou with a single Punch. "Fine," I thought, "then use gatling or storm."
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And wow, the most annoying totland-char (giant face) finally became sth interesting: Lola's and Chiffon's dad!
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It took me a second to realize SJW stands for San Juan Wolf and not social justice warrior.
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