It was at least better than her miraculously getting her memories back. A better lesson: if you lose your memories, just make new ones.
The Promised Neverland
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I mean, thematically, there is nothing wrong with the the story after Goldy Pond, but for some reason everything feels rushed and makes it harder to feel invested on it.
-Norman collaborationg with a fallen demon faction? That was cool, but we barely knew they guy.
-The demons being tridimensional characters, instead of plain evil monsters? Nice too, but without expending at least a couple of chapters knowing the daily lives of demons it feels cheap (Musica and Sonju doesn´t count because the first is a exception to all demons and the second actually wanted to hunt humans again)
-Mom being alive and helping the kids one last time before kicking the bucket? Cool concept, but too few chapters and zero foreshadowing regarding that.Still, I like the themes of the series and how straightfoward it tells them, so I would still say that the series had a good-decent ending.
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It was at least better than her miraculously getting her memories back. A better lesson: if you lose your memories, just make new ones.
Yea I won't fault the series for not going completely dark with it, where she just never reunites with them. Even if I'm beyond tired of how toothless the series has become, that would've been too dour of an ending. This was the best compromise.
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slowly but surely devolved from a cruel but well thought story in a series of "we can do everything with teamwork and love" events.
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I mostly agree with this, it faced a wall of how to portray a bunch of sheltered orphan kids toppling the demon kingdom without having to age them to adulthood, and sadly it couldn't climb over it.
They simply got overwhelmed by the sheer amount of characters they kept introducing to progress the story and never developed them. That also pushed important existing characters like Rey into the background. That is why it fell off after Goldy Pond; that was the first time they introduced a bunch of extra kids to the already numerous cast that escaped Grace Field. In the end, there were just too many characters to do any of them justice.
That is something that Oda understood by having Luffy's crew be small even if it is unrealistic in a world where big pirate crews have hundreds of members. Much better to have a few well-developed core members with guest characters in different story arcs than do what the Promised Neverland did and getting overwhelmed with a lot of permanent ones diluting the quality.
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Not the best ending but not the worse either. I only wish the final arcs didn't feel rushed and more characters got development. Overall, I was satisfied Emma didn't get her memories back but I'd like it a bit more if they agreed to stay in contact instead of just deciding to live together. Make it more bittersweet yet hopeful.
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I just don't want Emma to leave her new grandpa.
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I like to think the authors had a very solid first arc planned, came in and swoop the industry and because they had the first arc planned so well they spent their otherwise limited free time to plan the 2nd arc while drawing the first.
And then it went downhill from there because of deadlines, exhaustion, and not as good planning.
I mean they got an outline but they didn't have the time to plan the execution which is why everything is either rushed or flat.
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Again, the weekly grind is the death of creativity, that some monsters can pull it out doesn’t mean that everyone can, and specially that they should.
Jump has to face too many different forms of entretainment now, each chapter can’t be done in a week if it aspires to be something else than narutwo, a yokai manga but (with a twist!), the new to love ru, death note but with (random gimmick), or the first manga about competitive polo or curling, or a new comedy about a fish out of water where hijinks ensue.
Would this lineup survive without one piece?
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tldr; it should be two chapters each month, double the number of manga, the editorial juggles them however they see fit for that month, authors can ask for Inter arc idea gathering periods Where they go into planed hiatus to come back strong for the same story.
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Just make them monthly and use that extra time to color them as well. The colored manga is a completely different experience and even more beautiful to look at.
Obviously none of that will ever happen because how are you going to get a company to turn down all that weekly income or increase production costs on a project. Not to mention tradition isn't changed easily or quickly in Japan. The desire exists for new manga every week so they provide it.
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I essentially agree with what everyone has been saying, but I dislike monthly manga, since it never feels like the waiting time makes up for the little bit of progression we end up getting. Something like Oda's schedule should already be pretty good for most mangaka. Something like 3 weeks on, 1 week off. It would give the authors breathing room while ensuring the editorial department could rotate the missing series gradually, so it never feels like a specific issue is weaker than the previous one. But at least as long as One Piece sustains their ridiculous production scheme, it won't change. Getting Shueisha to go digital was already a huge win and it took years of effort and ever decreasing sales to achieve. And still most people complain about their MangaPlus app all the time.
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Shueisha already does digitally colored version as bonus, but from the ones I see only OP is worth getting.
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I essentially agree with what everyone has been saying, but I dislike monthly manga, since it never feels like the waiting time makes up for the little bit of progression we end up getting. Something like Oda's schedule should already be pretty good for most mangaka. Something like 3 weeks on, 1 week off. It would give the authors breathing room while ensuring the editorial department could rotate the missing series gradually, so it never feels like a specific issue is weaker than the previous one. But at least as long as One Piece sustains their ridiculous production scheme, it won't change. Getting Shueisha to go digital was already a huge win and it took years of effort and ever decreasing sales to achieve. And still most people complain about their MangaPlus app all the time.
I think it depends of the manga, but I understad your point. I lost interest in Blue Exorcist and Seraph of the End because when a new chapter appears I had already forgotten what happened in the previous one, maybe reading it by volumes is better for monthly series. That said, series like Spirit Circle or Dungeon Meshi can actually pull off the monthly schedule pretty well.
To avoid talking off topic too much and thinking about it now, I really don´t know if TPN could have been better in a monthly schedule, at the very least the art (that it´s already good), could have been even better.
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It is not precisely to work on the art, but to let ideas grow and develop, to weave chapters better together, to stop relying on weird plot twist that are only important until next chapter and never again, those kind of things are the fruit of ideas that didn’t get enough time to iterate or mature.
Is like this science show that I watched recently, it was about the “end of physics”, that it is not so much that they know everything there is to know, but in order to run the kind of experiments that would actually lead to breakthroughs , you have to build the machines, and get the findings, the army of interns, rare materials, and such. Likewise to explore another story on the friendship effort victory it takes time and effort, teamwork that puts an overhead of meetings and synch up.
I want something fun, that respects my time by ensuring that every chapter becomes its own individual experience and that the story is poorer if it is removed, with characters that can surprise me in ways that make sense, in a world crafted with imaginative ideas that invite to be thought about, using the medium in a way that makes it something unique in contrast with any other media, something that can only exist in comics made by that author.
I don’t believe that the overhead of coloring is worth it, to be honest.
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If we consider that The Promised Neverland was popular through the whole run in Japan, being #3 most of the time below One Piece and Kimetsu no Yaiba, I don't think giving them more time would have improved the quality overall, at least to our tastes.
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I agree with most of the points maxdex said and suggested.
A 2 chapter with a 18-20 page per month basis would do wonders.
Time would increase the quality of a work , I don't doubt that at all.
The breathing space, the addition exposure to other media, actually sleeping for once, etc.Most young shounen mangaka comes in with a brilliant idea or two, perform well in execution for a while and then somewhere near the mid or end point they just tatter off.
Just look at the nosedive in quality for the last decade of most, if I daresay, even all of shounen jump series.
If you've picked up a pen or drew before, drawing is an incredibly taxing task. Just a piece of artwork or one panel can take hours.
No one deserves that because we are too impatient to get our endomorphine high for the weekends.
Their lifestyle is brutal.
Oda is the exception and never the norm and dude collapsed a few times already.
The whole "Passion" and robotic hard work approach to be able to churn out quality no longer works when your staff gets 4-5 hours of sleep a day and have little to no free time.
The Jump culture pissed me off but then I realize it's also the Japanese culture and that's double whammy so now I'm sad.Also I'm strongly opposed to digital colouring because I'm on the side that it's a lot more effort than it's worth (seriously, colouring is a whole other dimension of learning) and no one asked for that.
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Or maybe an antology series, like Mushishi, this concept could keep fresh with a minimal cast.
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That was really nice.
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Finally caught up. That was wholesome. Emma could never convince me that there was no catch to the wish.
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That one shot seemed a bit pointless. Didn't we already get a chapter or two about Ray's memories and stuff?
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It was more about Ray's point of view during his childhood knowing the truth more than revealing new info. Also I think he straight up murdered a baby to test the tracking device theory (or there's a plot hole and he already knew).
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The one shot is most likely promotional event for the movie anyway
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https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1008304
Sister Krone one-shot
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If they wanna make a spin-off series just about girls training to be Moms I would totally read it.
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More side stories!
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1008316! Alright, it's guessing time. Which of these sisters are who's mom? My only guesses right now are Scarlett is Don's mom and Matilda is Emma's (because she's the one with the most focus in the chapter)
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! Hair color says that the prominent one was Norman's and the nervious wreck was Emma's and sharp eyes one is from the 5th kid who's name stops mattering. The one left being Don's
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Sienna - Emma
Scarlet - Don
Matilda - Norman
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So annoying comparing in the phone, there are 2 escapees with dark hair and clear skin, one of the two kids that always stirred shit together, and the only other girl that was on the tomboyish scale with Emma, with wild anime MC hair.
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These special chapters are pretty damn good, but a part of me would have liked to see them in the actual series, like I understand that Isabella rebelling had to be a twist, but still.
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They are better than what we got, but they just don't fit in the regular schedule. Extending Chrone's death a whole chapter? A flashback of Ray's baby memories when Emma does the ear device extraction? a random flashback of the moms when they reveal their betrayal? the first two can easily fit, with chrone being reminded about her friend, and telling part of the story to the kids instead of in the flashback, but the most recent one would have needed to make the four sisters characters beforehand, and not make it obvious that they are the mothers for it to fit.
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So I guess this was the pilot?
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1008363Nothing apparently to do with the actual demon/human world or the farms, but keeps the theme of the value of living in a shitty world.
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Probably the orphans will swoop in and save them. It just focuses that even in the human world people can be seen as food/money by other people. Granted, Andrew already made that speech just before he became diner.
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Apparently they are speedrunning season 2 towards the end by removing Goldy pond and Yuugo altogether.
Like, that's really the second best arc in the series ever and they just went nope.
I'll understand if they adapted Goldy and ended the adaption then and there though.
The reason seems to be that the author didn't like his own ending? Or whatever, fans are upset and stuff.
I honestly don't get why studios pull this shit anymore in this time and age and get away with it.
I know Japanese fans are less vocal and all, but come on.I really would have liked Goldy Pond..so that's unfortunate
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Wasn't it reported somewhere that Kaiu Shirai was involved in the script for the anime and wanted to include an original story? That would mean that now unknown content could follow. Whether the missing parts will be adapted later is unfortunately unknown to me.
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Apparently they are speedrunning season 2 towards the end by removing Goldy pond and Yuugo altogether.
Like, that's really the second best arc in the series ever and they just went nope.Whaaaaaaaaaat?!!!
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This seems really stupid.
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Yeah it seems that they decided that they would only do a second season and decided to ask the author to help them write an anime original ending that could fit in that season.
That's the unfortunate risk of seasonal adaptations starting late or with the manga ending not long after the anime starts. You're not guaranteed to have a full adaptation unless there is a really big incentive for the production committee.
To be honest, when the 1st season didn't end with a 2nd season announcement starting soon, I immediately got a bad feeling.
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I gave them a pass in the first season when they skipped some things. I thought they were just going to address it in season 2 as an alternate sequencing choice. They never really addressed it and began to skip more as season 2 began.
When they skipped Yuugo, it was confirmation for me that they're gonna pull some bs. Then, a moment that wasn't meant to happen until after GP arc happened and I turned it off. This show is ass. I've never seen anything like this before.
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After the 1st arc the Yuugo, Goldy Pond stuff was the next best. I'm glad I didn't start the anime yet. That's just so bizarre to me.
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Incredibly stupid is what this is. Goldy Pond was not just some filler arc where nothing happened as it had very important plots elements and characters introduced into the story. This cannot be seen as anything less than the butchering of the plot.
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So, me and the wife have been watching the anie, haven't read the manga… but now I'm seeing that season 2 has completely dropped the ball and is apparently leaving out huge chunks of stuff?
Is it actually important or is the internet over-reacting? And why would the skip stuff when the manga is already done and they know exactly how much material they have?
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Without spoiling, we don't know.
Vague analysis:
! The skipped arc introduced a bunch of characters and villains, the characters didn't mesh well with the main cast, except a few of them, and the villain was the second best of the series.
! Some things have to be mixed up to acomodate the overall plot, but the characters fade into the background hard, and the villain had conections that went underexplored.I believe they are overreacting, but with every change there are unforseen consequences.
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Its not that much nessesery to watch, it is just very good. After this point the manga drops in intensity. and you loose a bit of the (psychological) battles. And the "villain"is great
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So, me and the wife have been watching the anie, haven't read the manga… but now I'm seeing that season 2 has completely dropped the ball and is apparently leaving out huge chunks of stuff?
Is it actually important or is the internet over-reacting? And why would the skip stuff when the manga is already done and they know exactly how much material they have?
Hard for me to say since I haven't seen the second season of the anime yet, but keep in mind there's three arcs in the manga and it sounds like the anime is essentially omitting one of them. Also, if they are excluding the villain from the second arc, then that's a damn shame because he may be the best villain in the whole series.