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    • Wintermute
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      Well, I pretty much liked everything about the first episode. (I never noticed that mother had violet eyes. Odd somehow)

      As I read Neverland for the first time, Conny never made an impact to me (except the moment when she died of course) because I didn't knew what would happen to her.
      But now, knowing what's up with this world, seeing her live and happy just broke my heart. That is hell of a rewatch bonus to put it mildly šŸ˜ž

      One thought for the manga spoilered because of hopefully new influx on readers

      ! I agree on Ray beeing seen way to often just standing around knowingly, lol.

      ā€œAs I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!ā€ – David Scott, Moon

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        Episode 2 of the anime already disappointing.
        It was speed blitzing through the material that hardly any of the bombs had the same weight or felt as important as their manga counter part.
        It also detracted most of the fun factor by removing scenes where they do stuff, and only left the dramatic speeches; which gives the impression that this is a moody series about weak kids trying to escape certain doom, instead of intelligent kids trying to outsmart their genius mother while the odds are stacked against them that the manga actually delivered.
        Just saying my opinion, episode 3 might change my mind tho.

        ! Who thought not showing this in episode 2 was a good idea?

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        I'm not really opposed to fast pacing, and to be honest, the episode was well directed for the most part.
        It's just that the overall atmosphere doesn't seem like the one I felt from the manga. Everything is so bleak, unlike the ups and downs of the original, still, maybe it will change with later episodes.

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          Honestly TPN is much better at the hands of people who actually cares.
          Maybe madhouse or IG. Instead we get this attempt that, while too early to say, I predict will be an adaption of mostly edgeyness.
          The sheer inconsistency of the animation studios in Japan bewilders me sometimes but blah blah culture blab blah
          For once maybe if TPN is picked up by a western company it will do better.
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          ! I still think there's a lot to the current Norman. Unless Emma straight out thinks he is a different person assuming the identity of her old friend, I'm going to go with the fact that he is really Norman but it's apparent that he's a different person at the same time.

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            ! Isn’t it a little bit odd to Norman had achieved so much in two years?
            And the whole why demons eat humans is gonna turn into a Soylent Green situation ain’t it?

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              Link:
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              ! I still think there's a lot to the current Norman. Unless Emma straight out thinks he is a different person assuming the identity of her old friend, I'm going to go with the fact that he is really Norman but it's apparent that he's a different person at the same time.

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              ! Isn’t it a little bit odd to Norman had achieved so much in two years?
              And the whole why demons eat humans is gonna turn into a Soylent Green situation ain’t it?

              ! Norman said he was sent to a farm that experimented on children, so at this point I'm going to assume they made him age at a faster rate than a normal human. It's already been 2 years since the escape, so while Emma and Ray are now 15 (or 16 if my timing is off), Norman looks at least 18, if not his 20s. Or what should be his 20s but he's really just 15.

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                ! Isn’t it a little bit odd to Norman had achieved so much in two years?
                And the whole why demons eat humans is gonna turn into a Soylent Green situation ain’t it?

                ! I'm kinda expecting that all demons start like mindless animals and then gain intelligence based on what they eat the brain of. That would explain why geniuses are high grade products.

                Life flows on. I'd just go with it, if I were me.

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                  ! I'm kinda expecting that all demons start like mindless animals and then gain intelligence based on what they eat the brain of. That would explain why geniuses are high grade products.

                  Good point, good point, that would make sense.

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                    ! I'm kinda expecting that all demons start like mindless animals and then gain intelligence based on what they eat the brain of. That would explain why geniuses are high grade products.

                    ! The town demons didn't seem stupid at all (if not genius-level), and all they seem to eat is 3rd-grade "meat".

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                      ! Also Luciel, or whatever, the first of the poachers to die. He was dumb as bricks.

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                        ! Too bad the manga skipped Norman's escape. Unless, there's something he's not telling the others.

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                          They'll probably show us in a flashback.

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                            Yeah the flashback will probably cover the demons existance and why they are like are as part of normans fact finding and then lead into the escape at the end

                            Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:

                            So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?

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                              Ah come oooon!

                              ! That's how the Chimera Ants happened.

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                                ! Pacifist vs Pragmatist. Ah the age old yet forever exciting clash of ideals.

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                                  ! I bet forging a new pact involves emma beating "unsuppported unicode characters" in a match of go. Also I remember them saying demon reproduction was actually really slow hence why the stalemate between demons and humans.

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                                    ! Musica and the other demon didn't eat people, right? I think Norman is lying and Emma noticed. However, something about the 6 months might be true, just not what Norman said.

                                    Wash your hands.

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                                      ! Unless they eat human-eating demons.
                                      ! Also, this was foreshadowed by Numa/Nous, and THE MONKEY/the missing body of one of the poachers.

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                                        @KageKageKing:

                                        Ah come oooon!

                                        ! That's how the Chimera Ants happened.

                                        Yeah, but there is still the question how they actually reproduce…

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                                          ! Now THAT was unexpected. Never thought of demons growing like that.

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                                            ! Pretty neat twist I gotta say. In regards to both, the demon's evolution and society, as well as the ways of fighting them. Makes sense and opens up a lot of possibilities for the remainder of this manga. I just hope with all the super powered Lambda children this won't turn into too much a a battle fest and focuses on wits and tactics, too. And oh boy, I do sense some conflict between Emma and Norman. She didn't seem all too fond of the plan he came up with.

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                                              ! So it's a you are what you eat scenario hum… i was kind of right. But them again they feel much more like the chimera ants. How long till a Norman-san situation?

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                                                ! The little ones seem pretty on board with Norman“s plan, don“t they remember Musika and Sonju? Then again, the second wasn“t really a good person.

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                                                  ! The little ones seem pretty on board with Norman“s plan, don“t they remember Musika and Sonju? Then again, the second wasn“t really a good person.

                                                  ! Wonder how they actually retain intelligence considering they don't eat humans. The possibility of making a new pact without eating humans indicates there might be more to the demon's intelligence than just eating.

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                                                    ! The little ones seem pretty on board with Norman“s plan, don“t they remember Musika and Sonju? Then again, the second wasn“t really a good person.

                                                    ! their mere existance is a spit in the face of this "revelation" since they don't eat humans at all do they?

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                                                      Why you guys use the spoiler alart all the time. Two or three times after chapter is out should be enough…

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                                                        It's a new rule to use spoiler tags until the official release, which is 1 or 2 days after the scanlations are up.

                                                        Wash your hands.

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                                                          The new Shonen Jump app being so cheap is what brought this around. We want to support the offical release. But at the same time we're also too excited to wait extra days lol.

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                                                            Man is an impatient animal.

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                                                              @Maju:

                                                              ! their mere existance is a spit in the face of this "revelation" since they don't eat humans at all do they?

                                                              ! At least we know Norman thinks this is true, because his whole war strategy is wait up until they are mindless monster easy to kill, he is too smart to do something like this withouth being 100% of that weakness.
                                                              ! Maybe Musika and Sonju must have something that makes them special, she had that weird amulet and both of them appeared on Lewis last thoughts before dying. Perhaps the weird demon god prevents them from becoming beasts or perhaps they eat demons who had eaten humans (but that looks out of character for Musika though)

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                                                                I'm digging the anime. Can't wait the see how people react after the kids leave Grace Field.

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                                                                ! At least we know Norman thinks this is true, because his whole war strategy is wait up until they are mindless monster easy to kill, he is too smart to do something like this withouth being 100% of that weakness.
                                                                ! Maybe Musika and Sonju must have something that makes them special, she had that weird amulet and both of them appeared on Lewis last thoughts before dying. Perhaps the weird demon god prevents them from becoming beasts or perhaps they eat demons who had eaten humans (but that looks out of character for Musika though)

                                                                I like where you're going with this. This might be the compromise needed for Emma to get onboard. I think her problem is killing all the demons, but if they can survive without humans its a win-win.

                                                                There goes my KFC theory. This series is so good at showing the horror of children raised to be eaten. Man, I really gave the Ratri clan the benefit of the doubt thinking they developed the demon killers on purpose. Guess they're simply irredeemable.

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                                                                  ! doesn't destroy the farms means to kill a shitload of "cattle"?
                                                                  ! i didn't expect Emma to just go with it.

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                                                                    ! Maybe they could take care of the last farm's humans, but it is impossible for them to take care of all of them.

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                                                                      ! This chapter smells like 10 thing that happen before a disaster

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                                                                        ! This chapter smells like 10 thing that happen before a disaster

                                                                        ! It's the calm before the storm, indeed. But I can be the only one that almost teared up at the last page, right?

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                                                                          ! Something's severely off with Norman, his plan & the little utopia neverland he built. Between weird glances from Ray, the kids being surprised to even see their "boss" and Emma noticing how most Grace Field kids already start to behave "like jin and hayato" anyone could tell that shit's about to hit the fan.

                                                                          We all float down here!

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                                                                            I wonder how long this rug is going to be under my feet.

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                                                                              Nothing will go wrong here.

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                                                                                Cute chapter, but I wonder what is bothering Enma that doesn“t matter to the rest, included Ray. Also I am curious about why they talk about demon genocide and they don“t spare a thought for Musika and Sonju (maybe they know about the details of their faith now, Minerva let them a ton of info after all)

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                                                                                  @Pennywise:

                                                                                  ! Something's severely off with Norman, his plan & the little utopia neverland he built. Between weird glances from Ray, the kids being surprised to even see their "boss" and Emma noticing how most Grace Field kids already start to behave "like jin and hayato" anyone could tell that shit's about to hit the fan.

                                                                                  Yup. It's just a too sweet to be truth scenario at the moment. But I don't like how Ray is handled… last 5-10 chapters he was nothing more than a side kick.

                                                                                  We know how well mind tricks worked with the authors in the first quarter. So I suppose there will be a mind game between Ray and Minerva/Norman with Emma as the one to suffer during the next couple of Chapters... Too sad to see them playing chess like friends. Could be a forshadowing.

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                                                                                    Good chapter. Knew it was coming but I like this outlook from Emma. Probably the first time her and Norman truly disagreed over something. Question is whether Norman is willing to listen to Emma like he did back at Grace Field. I'm guessing not. Wouldn't be surprised that letter was to the Ratri clan. I bet he's gonna go Punisher on them.

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                                                                                      Good chapter. Knew it was coming but I like this outlook from Emma. Probably the first time her and Norman truly disagreed over something. Question is whether Norman is willing to listen to Emma like he did back at Grace Field. I'm guessing not. Wouldn't be surprised that letter was to the Ratri clan. I bet he's gonna go Punisher on them.

                                                                                      If we know that Norman won't agree, we also know that Emma knows that he won't agree. I still believe that Ray will be the decisive indicator and find a solution. He was the cleverest of them all the time…

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                                                                                        ! They went in… and now they can't get out!

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                                                                                          Hello. I never had an interest in the series, but recently spotted the anime on Hulu and decided to give it a watch out of boredom. I have now spent the rest of the week reading the entire manga. This is goddamn great. I highly regret my initial indifference.

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                                                                                            Hello. I never had an interest in the series, but recently spotted the anime on Hulu and decided to give it a watch out of boredom. I have now spent the rest of the week reading the entire manga. This is goddamn great. I highly regret my initial indifference.

                                                                                            Hey, better late than never. Welcome aboard!

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                                                                                              I loved Ray this chapter. So blunt yet effective. "You're going to interfere in the most troublesome way." šŸ˜†

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                                                                                                Thank you, Ray, for convincing Emma to talk it out and prevent needless drama. Looks like the experimented group is little jealous of Grade A Grace Field. That live in harmony Jutsu won't be working on them.

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                                                                                                Hello. I never had an interest in the series, but recently spotted the anime on Hulu and decided to give it a watch out of boredom. I have now spent the rest of the week reading the entire manga. This is goddamn great. I highly regret my initial indifference.

                                                                                                Happy the anime is bringing folks onboard. I'm loving it so far. And that opening, man, I crack up every time they show the kids posing behind the fence looking "tough". No one's scared of some 8-11yr olds mean muggin'. lol

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                                                                                                  Gross theory:

                                                                                                  ! What if Musica is actally human and they both love each other so much that they interbreed and eat their … ah nevermind..

                                                                                                  ā€œAs I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!ā€ – David Scott, Moon

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                                                                                                    If that is so, then Musica is an hybrid, on the more traditional sense than what these demons are. She was born after the promise after all.

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                                                                                                      Chapter 124: Great, now I have Anxiety

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                                                                                                        Ohoho, it gets more interesting all the time.

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