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    • Blowfish
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      Pirate King Luffy will have the eye patch.

      "The Night Is Dark And Full Of Terror"

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        @Gentleman_Bastard:

        My man is finally going to join the crew

        nope, never gonna happen…. he just doesn't fit.....

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          That would be random and anti-climatic given the level of weight Oda's given the eyepatch. There's no way it was just "Oh um…Jimbei will be the guy.". Because then what was the big deal in saving it then.

          But moreover the roulette didn't have eye on it so why would that even happened.

          For example scring head icon and lowerst possible number could be resulting in loosing an eye/ finger and so on depending on icon and number value. For example.

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            BTW do anyone asked for why Neko and Inu never trusted Whitebeard enough to showm him the Poneglyph or they simply realized that he didn't care

            Roger was interested in changing the world(that's what he asked Ray when they met), Whitbeard just wanted to enjoy his life.

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              Can we stop this "Jinbe doesn't fit"! joke? It was never funny at the beggining and it is starting to get annoying.

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                Calling it now

                Luffy is gonna punch Big Mom so hard in the stomach she won't have the rage cravings anymore.

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                  Calling it now

                  Luffy is gonna punch Big Mom so hard in the stomach she won't have the rage cravings anymore.

                  We're gonna need a king kong gun for that.

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                  Probably some sexy time with mama. :ninja:

                  It might be husband haha

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                    @KageKageKing:

                    Can we stop this "Jinbe doesn't fit"! joke? It was never funny at the beggining and it is starting to get annoying.

                    Maybe the joke is that Franky, the guy with nipple lights powered through a cola system, can't change a door frame. Not that it makes it any better.

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                    Maybe the point system works differently. Maybe it is a competition to see whom gets certain amount of points first. Big Mom has two slots(if you hit these you lose points), you have all the rest, but there are penalties to whatever limb you hit.

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                      My issue is i don't really mind of this "Whole Cake" island or even Big Mum, seems like a breakdown since the team splits, and there's no humor to save the rest…
                      That's not this chapter which ennoys me, it's more global.

                      I need an OP break i think, there is so much others mangas at their top, i lost the envy to follow this one for no on.
                      I'm in the same mood as i was with Fishman Island, even if the plot is much more essential for the rest of the series.
                      That atsmosphere reminds me too much Disney and déjà-vu, from a occidental perspective

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                        @Hachibukai:

                        My issue is i don't really mind of this "Whole Cake" island or even Big Mum, seems like a breakdown since the team splits, and there's no humor to save the rest…
                        That's not this chapter which ennoys me, it's more global.

                        I need an OP break i think, there is so much others mangas at their top, i lost the envy to follow this one for no on.
                        I'm in the same mood as i was with Fishman Island, even if the plot is much more essential for the rest of the series.
                        That atsmosphere reminds me too much Disney and déjà-vu, from a occidental perspective

                        Is Ennoy the word for when you enjoy something but you are annoyed?

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                          Sorry, my english is poor (grammary especially, i'm from belgium talking french and sometimes traducts somes expressions litterally)

                          "Ennoys me" is not the good verb in english but in french it's the same expression as "bores me"

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                            I've been waiting this chapter for, like, 3 good years… but the idea of Jinbe losing any body part just doesn't sit well for me. No-no.

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                              You know with the revealing of Charlotte Praline, it shows that Big Mom isn't picky about who she beds. Since Praline is half mermaid, it must mean her father was a mereman.

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                                I've been waiting this chapter for, like, 3 good years… but the idea of Jinbe losing any body part just doesn't sit well for me. No-no.

                                He'll land on the flag symbol, and lose his honor or something. Or some life-span, if that's her ability.

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                                  You know with the revealing of Charlotte Praline, it shows that Big Mom isn't picky about who she beds. Since Praline is half mermaid, it must mean her father was a mereman.

                                  more like a fishman,since mermen lack,you know,THAT

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                                    You know with the revealing of Charlotte Praline, it shows that Big Mom isn't picky about who she beds. Since Praline is half mermaid, it must mean her father was a mereman.

                                    I wonder if Big Mom had sex with a dwarf.
                                    That's a disturbing thought. O.o

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                                      more like a fishman,since mermen lack,you know,THAT

                                      I think mereman, because I have a feeling there is a way for human females and meremen to procreate together. The question of how will probably for the best remain a mystery, since this is technically a kid's manga.

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                                        Fun thought… a half shark/half kraken fishman and half lion/half bear mink have a baby... who also eats some kind of crazy dinosaur, dragon, or even just alligator zoan.
                                        That's not something you'd want to see pissed off... or probably see at all.

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                                          This felt more like Chapter 829.5, really. We're still in more or less the same scenario we were before: Jinbe wants to leave BMs crew and Luffy is about to arrive at Whole Cake Island. This is out of character for Oda, it feels more like a Bleach chapter in terms of how much actually moved on.

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                                            Lol at Big Mom's laugh. Mamamamama. I'm sure someone guessed it.

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                                              Fun thought… a half shark/half kraken fishman and half lion/half bear mink have a baby... who also eats some kind of crazy dinosaur, dragon, or even just alligator zoan.
                                              That's not something you'd want to see pissed off... or probably see at all.

                                              There are no Fishman/Merman with 2 different species. Tom's Brother just explained how Merfolk breeding works.

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                                                @Teclo:

                                                This felt more like Chapter 829.5, really. We're still in more or less the same scenario we were before: Jinbe wants to leave BMs crew and Luffy is about to arrive at Whole Cake Island. This is out of character for Oda, it feels more like a Bleach chapter in terms of how much actually moved on.

                                                We didn't see the roullette? We didn't learn about Alladin's marriage? We didn't find out that the Sun Pirates gave Jinbe license to leave? Pedro didn't announce plans to go on a completely different path to get the poneglyph? Maybe we read a different chapter, because that's plenty plot for me.

                                                Plus, they weren't about to arrive at Whole Cake island in the chapter before, they were making their way.

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                                                  Sorry if this has been asked already but who is this behind Carrot? Everyone is accounted for and nobody has any spears

                                                  I know people have said Nami but literally on the other side of the page she is back into her old outfit. If its meant to be her that was a very instant change.

                                                  ![](http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg198/scaled.php?server=198&filename=groosesig.png&res=m edium)

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                                                    @black-leg:

                                                    Sorry if this has been asked already but who is this behind Carrot? Everyone is accounted for and nobody has any spears
                                                    http://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/51/3486/016-017.png

                                                    I know people have said Nami but literally on the other side of the page she is back into her old outfit. If its meant to be her that was a very instant change.

                                                    This reminds me of Ace in Buggy's party (volume 25)

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                                                      It is Nami, some time passed between panels. You can also see Brook changing places.

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                                                        1). I think this wheel is a darts board. Jimbe will have to through a dart at it, as opposed to spining a wheel.

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                                                        ! http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160623/8ee970c64a3801c4fa71ff22b2840b9f.jpg

                                                        What's written in Japanese on the little boy's back please?

                                                        So is it now safe to say Moscato is really dead. They said move the body, and the scarecrow man says not even her own son is safe.

                                                        Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:

                                                        So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?

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                                                          @andre:

                                                          We didn't see the roullette? We didn't learn about Alladin's marriage? We didn't find out that the Sun Pirates gave Jinbe license to leave? Pedro didn't announce plans to go on a completely different path to get the poneglyph? Maybe we read a different chapter, because that's plenty plot for me.

                                                          Plus, they weren't about to arrive at Whole Cake island in the chapter before, they were making their way.

                                                          They're still making their way, technically. The other things are stuff that had already happened (the marriage of a very minor side character) or that still haven't happened yet (Pedro's future actions). One could assume that Jinbe's crew would be okay with what he's doing, that's not exactly a revelation or a plot point - it's the kind of thing that may happen in a single cover story frame. The roulette merely serves to set up another future event, still nothing has happened with it, it's just prefacing what's going to happen next chapter (hopefully).

                                                          So what I mean overall is that if you look at where we were last week, we're still in the same place. Just think that the main two plot points are "SHs getting to BM" and "Jinbe leaving BM" and those two strands barely moved an inch. If the SHs had actually got to the island and if the roulette had actually spun and the consequence played out, that would be worthy of a chapter. Instead we have "next chapter a roulette wheel will be spun!", "Pedro will do a thing in many chapters!", "the SHs will make land next chapter (probably)!", and "Oh this side character you'd totally forgotten about is married to a character you've never met before", the latter being the only thing that isn't just a setup for next chapter.

                                                          I'm happy for you if you personally enjoyed it and I'm not trying to detract from that, but it did barely move the plot forwards at all, it just padded it out a little.

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                                                            @Teclo:

                                                            They're still making their way, technically. The other things are stuff that had already happened (the marriage of a very minor side character) or that still haven't happened yet (Pedro's future actions). One could assume that Jinbe's crew would be okay with what he's doing, that's not exactly a revelation or a plot point - it's the kind of thing that may happen in a single cover story frame. The roulette merely serves to set up another future event, still nothing has happened with it, it's just prefacing what's going to happen next chapter (hopefully).

                                                            So what I mean overall is that if you look at where we were last week, we're still in the same place. Just think that the main two plot points are "SHs getting to BM" and "Jinbe leaving BM" and those two strands barely moved an inch. If the SHs had actually got to the island and if the roulette had actually spun and the consequence played out, that would be worthy of a chapter. Instead we have "next chapter a roulette wheel will be spun!", "Pedro will do a thing in many chapters!", "the SHs will make land next chapter (probably)!", and "Oh this side character you'd totally forgotten about is married to a character you've never met before", the latter being the only thing that isn't just a setup for next chapter.

                                                            I'm happy for you if you personally enjoyed it and I'm not trying to detract from that, but it did barely move the plot forwards at all, it just padded it out a little.

                                                            You can feel that way, but the comparison to Bleach, I think, is unfair. Oda has always taken his time setting things up in a proper way. If there were wasted pages or moments, I could see your point, but I don't think there are any. Everything is relevant, everything leads somewhere or shines light on a situation. When you go straight to the action for no reason, you end up with Toriko. I have love for Toriko, but One Piece is on a different level.

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                                                              Aside from Brook moving an inch, there's really no indicator that time passed between those panels. Everything after "The Next Morning" seemed to happen in like 5 seconds.
                                                              I'm not saying it can't be Nami with the armor and spears, but if it's supposed to be a site gag, it's a little sloppy I think.
                                                              I think there are even chances that it's a sloppy joke, an artist brain fart, or, something like Ace on Buggy's ship. It could be one of a million Big Daughters who had stowed away, only to go all derpy and reveal themselves because they're a dumb One Piece character.
                                                              Like the rest of you, I'm leaning more towards Nami donning armor, but it's not obvious. Don't be mean to anyone just for questioning it.

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                                                                The guy at the end is probably one-Leg Jimbe. I can't see him loose a hand, he needs those for the Kamehameha-like move. Loosing a leg could potentially make him loose a lot of speed making Sanji the fastest Strawhat under water.

                                                                Zoro vs. Caesar

                                                                Don Noflamingo vs. Robowarden

                                                                Luffy vs Akainu (fan made manga)

                                                                The Birth of Frank aka FFotSDMDBeB: First fist of the Sea, DonMarimo DoBuggino exploring Bonesbeard.

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                                                                  mangastream seems to have changed the translation a bit..now Mont d'or is saying to that shadow/slime tingy "don't leave behind even a "single second""..so it seems like those things are somewhat used in the whole lifespan thing by big mom or something.

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                                                                    Here's the feeling I got at the last page of reading the chapter:

                                                                    (Beware, possible Game of Thrones spoiler!) http://imgbox.com/rjZrQliJ

                                                                    Anyone felt the same? This image just popped in my head.
                                                                    I love how cruel and creepy Big Mom comes across. Hopefully this will stay the same through the whole arc!

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                                                                      Last time we saw this much involvement with a Yonkou in an arch they ended up dying.

                                                                      Really excited to see how this all turns out. Seems unlikely Luffy can avoid an all-out fight with Big Mom. But at the same time, he's not strong enough to single handedly take out a Yonkou yet and he doesn't have enough backup(Jinbe is about to be nerfed). Also doesn't seem likely that Luffy and Sanji just walk out of Big Moms territory peacefully, nor will they be running with their tails between their legs(we've seen enough of that and Luffy seems to be determined never to run away from an enemy again).

                                                                      Plot twist, Luffy impregnates big mom as payment for Sanji?

                                                                      ps. Big mom is a big lady….how exactly is she conceiving with all those men? Are they all giants? because picturing a regular sized human try to......lmao

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                                                                        Last time we saw this much involvement with a Yonkou in an arch they ended up dying.

                                                                        Really excited to see how this all turns out. Seems unlikely Luffy can avoid an all-out fight with Big Mom. But at the same time, he's not strong enough to single handedly take out a Yonkou yet and he doesn't have enough backup(Jinbe is about to be nerfed). Also doesn't seem likely that Luffy and Sanji just walk out of Big Moms territory peacefully, nor will they be running with their tails between their legs(we've seen enough of that and Luffy seems to be determined never to run away from an enemy again).

                                                                        Plot twist, Luffy impregnates big mom as payment for Sanji?

                                                                        ps. Big mom is a big lady….how exactly is she conceiving with all those men? Are they all giants? because picturing a regular sized human try to......lmao

                                                                        This is One Piece where anything can be possible through the power of the nonsensical. She pretty much screwed to no end to create an army out of her womb.

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                                                                          So is it now safe to say Moscato is really dead. They said move the body, and the scarecrow man says not even her own son is safe.

                                                                          I actually think so, it's had to not accept what Mont D'Or's dialogue comfirms. Well, unless we missed something in translation.
                                                                          Eg. Maybe if the Black Don Slime things are actually being told by Mont D'Or not to "leave a single second of Muscat's life behind". As if, maybe, when BM drained his life force, it was spilled all around and the Black things are being asked to collect them up for Big Mum. Maybe if the leave 'some' laying around, Muscat may come back to life.

                                                                          BTW: I guess we just have to wait for the Viz translation from @BellisarioFaith or if @Redon, @Sandman, @YonkoProductions or any Japanese language savvy member can confirm if the line from Mont D'Or says what we have currently got.

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                                                                            When I saw the "do not leave behind even a single second" I thought those guys were actually recovering the life force of Moscato. Either to restore his life or to do something else with it.

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                                                                              Oda can not do any worse to Jinbei.

                                                                              Gg's.

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                                                                                @Teclo:

                                                                                This felt more like Chapter 829.5, really. We're still in more or less the same scenario we were before: Jinbe wants to leave BMs crew and Luffy is about to arrive at Whole Cake Island. This is out of character for Oda, it feels more like a Bleach chapter in terms of how much actually moved on.

                                                                                If you decide to completely ignore all events that happened during the chapter, then we could say the same about most chapters in One Piece.

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                                                                                  @Teclo:

                                                                                  This felt more like Chapter 829.5, really. We're still in more or less the same scenario we were before: Jinbe wants to leave BMs crew and Luffy is about to arrive at Whole Cake Island. This is out of character for Oda, it feels more like a Bleach chapter in terms of how much actually moved on.

                                                                                  I suggest you actually go read bleach because i don't think you have recently since 1 one piece chapters gives you some amount as 3-4 bleach chapters in what happens in the chapter even with one piece taking breaks the story in one piece moves a lot faster than bleach lol.

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                                                                                    I hope carrot stays with the crew, she's a breath of fresh air, doing what the guys will normally do in the crew. When the giant centipede popped up, she was licking her lips, not screaming. She helping to pull sunny when it was stuck in the juice river.

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                                                                                    It is Nami, some time passed between panels. You can also see Brook changing places.

                                                                                    Why is she wearing armor and carrying spears?

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                                                                                      I kind of like that Oda knows how I feel about Jinbe - being dull for most time imo till now. And yet I am getting chapter with Jinbei proving to be more of a Strawhat material by the second. I loved that he was ready to loose his life when going to talk with Big Mom and now we are getting roulette "of death"..

                                                                                      Luffy will be pissed at Big Mom for doing ANYTHING to Jinbe. This arc shapes up to be absolutely lovely..

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                                                                                        the"seconds" mentioned by Mont d'Or reminds me of the little creatures in the recent Alice in Wonderland movie.

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                                                                                          I wonder, what does fishman taste like? I guess BM's about to find out.

                                                                                          The face of a Straw Hat.

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                                                                                            @black-leg:

                                                                                            Sorry if this has been asked already but who is this behind Carrot? Everyone is accounted for and nobody has any spears
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                                                                                            I know people have said Nami but literally on the other side of the page she is back into her old outfit. If its meant to be her that was a very instant change.

                                                                                            One Piece is a cartoon, everyone knows that right? In this world a character can change clothing between panels

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                                                                                              One Piece is a cartoon, everyone knows that right? In this world a character can change clothing between panels

                                                                                              I think what you're trying to say here is that cartooniness was responsible for Nami being able to change clothes.

                                                                                              Nope. She was not shown on panel in between "The Next Morning" panel and her appearance in the armor. She had plenty of time to change clothes.

                                                                                              Croc or Enel would never.

                                                                                              Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.

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                                                                                                BF4 Wonder-L-Alice

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                                                                                                  the"seconds" mentioned by Mont d'Or reminds me of the little creatures in the recent Alice in Wonderland movie.

                                                                                                  Really? They looked like something straight out of Spirited Away.

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                                                                                                  This felt more like Chapter 829.5, really. We're still in more or less the same scenario we were before: Jinbe wants to leave BMs crew and Luffy is about to arrive at Whole Cake Island. This is out of character for Oda, it feels more like a Bleach chapter in terms of how much actually moved on.

                                                                                                  Wow, it must be a really slow method of reading you use to have just caught up in 2016 after starting in 2009! What's your secret!

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                                                                                                    Only if he had facial reconstruction surgery and a new eyeball donated….

                                                                                                    Loooooool genuinely laughed out loud

                                                                                                    I don't think Big Mom actually sleeps with these husbands probably just sucks out certain fluids with here DF ability and impregnates herself. Could be how she managed to get some of that Whitebeard sample :ninja:

                                                                                                    Coz I know he would never hit that.

                                                                                                    Also inb4 Pedro is the dude that lead Jack onto the Island and wants to find the road poneglyph for Kaido.

                                                                                                    Year of Sanji, let's go!

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                                                                                                      I see these mentions of how Jinbei needs to be "nerfed" so Zoro and Sanji are stronger. I don't know i kinda think they are now regardless, i seriously doubt Jinbei could defeat Zoro, Sanji might be a BIT different, but hell i dont even think Jinbei knows Haki, im trying to recall, but i dont remember him ever using it.

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                                                                                                        No way Zoro is stronger then Jimbei now, The guy was equal to ace and able to hold a 5 days battle years ago. He didn't show haki so far, but how many characters did pre ts? It could be that he got even stronger in the past 2 years.

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