The 0th rule of bleach: if you care more than Kubo, you already lost
Bleach Discussion █: Soul Society, but not!
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Is this true?
Espada 8th or whatever his original name was the 1st 0th Espada but then he divided himself into Yylfordt Granz and Szayelaporro Granz. Supposedly that this was mentioned in the novel and his sketch was drawn by Kubo. So, that’s why Nnoitora said he (Szayelaporro) wasn’t an Espada anymore in chapter 295.
This was because of in his 0th espada form he was unable to control himself. Unable to do his research to the perfect existence. So he split his soul into 2.
It was on Spirits are Forever with You, a novel by Ryogo Narita. Narita seems to carry a lot about consistency and filling holes, but his ideas are batshit crazy.
He is currently publishing another Bleach novel, Can't Fear your Own World, though. It is a sequel novel just like another one published by another author and apparently those are supposed to be half-canon, at least - apparently the general take is that the reveals in those are canon, the story itself not so much.
For example, Shinji and Hisagi bankais are revealed in this novel and Kubo already made clear that's the Bankai he had created for the characters but never got to use:
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I bet Hisagi's Bankai adds 1000 carry weight for 4 minutes. :ninja:
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Hisagi's getting fulton'd back to Mother Base in 3… 2... 1...
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THis interview talking about who?
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i know it's censoring for mystery, but goddamn calling everyone varying amounts of "X"s is such a bleach thing to do
I seriously can't keep up with all this side info.
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Then you should read how Kyouka Suigetsu work in the novel :ninja:
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! Can't Fear Your Own World III (pages 236-243; translated)Chapter 5
"Hahahaha! I see, I see! The sharpness of your slashes has increased remarkably! How interesting!"
Not just the speed.
Tokinada smirked as the attacks of Kazeshini continued, the accuracy of the throws increasing dramatically. The angle, power and movement of the chains also grew in precision, corresponding to the blades, responding well with their timing, flow and shape.
However, the speed of Kazeshini continued to rise further.
Tokinada found himself being captured within the narrow area of a single tatami mat. Taking a step forward would narrow down the slashing area more. The rotating scythe was manipulated in such a way by the chain, so that Tokinada's body could be confined without being bound. It seemed like Tokinada was completely entrapped by the two blades.
Tokinada tried to double their weights by using 'Wabisuke', in order to halt their movements.
But Kazeshini, like a living creature with will, avoided contact with Wabisuke as soon as it was manifested.
-Did you actually see it?
To confirm his suspicions, Tokinada created a wall of flame, using Ryujin Jakka, between himself and Hisagi and attemped another test slash with Wabisuke.
But the result was the same as before.
Looking at the blades of Kazeshini which broke through the wall of flame, Tokinada realized-
Hisagi could practically perceive everything with just his reikaku alone.
At the same time, he came to the conclusion that his own reiatsu was far below Yamamoto Shigekuni's.
-My reiatsu is not enough to melt his zanpakuto. Even if I use all of my reiatsu, the heat won't rise to that extent.
If it had been the original 'Ryujin Jakka' wielded by Genryusai, then he would not have had to rely on 'complete hypnosis', its heat would have been enough to end all of this swiftly.
-It doesn't matter; I'd have to get rid of them sooner or later anyway…
If too much reiatsu is expended on Ryujin Jakka, thought Tokinada, then the effect of 'complete hypnosis' would have to be reduced. But that may cause trouble.
Tokinada began to ponder on what to do.
Should I slay all of them as it is, or should I let Kyoraku fall into despair by killing around eighty percent of his allies first?
It would be good if I could get the job done here. One can't be too careful.
If Hikone is at a disadvantage with regard to Kenpachi, then there is always Aura on whom physical attacks have no effect.
There is only one thing to do here.
And so, Tokinada chose the option involving the swift annihilation of all present here, even if it meant the abandonment of his distorted pleasures and desires.
Now was not the time for carelessness.
As Hisagi's attacks became more and more intense, the Quincies and Arrancars around him began to follow his lead and started attacking with renewed energy. Tokinada dodged them by using the abilities of various suitable zanpakuto. Some of the attacks were even bounced back.
-I see.
-He should have been at the level of a Lieutenant. So why... why...
He realized that Hisagi's manoeuvre of Kazeshini was much different and faster than what he had seen in the past via the recordings. Tokinada tried to formulate plans.
However, before he could bring out the ability of a different zanpakuto-
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-He's still speeding up?
When Tokinada realized that Hisagi was not an opponent to be taken lightly, he relaxed his tautness as he imagined the pleasure of bringing the strong to his knees as he scattered 'Senbonzakura' in the air-
Everyone witnessed what happened in the next instant.
The blizzard of petals scraped Kazeshini, but every single one of them was deflected by the force of the extraordinary rotation of one of Kazeshini's scythes.
At the same time, the second scythe of Kazeshini approached Tokinada from high up through the gap and loped off the right arm that held Enrakyoten.
"Gah….!"
"Tokinada-sama....?"
Hearing his cry of pain, Aura turned towards Tokinada.
"Impossible... I never imagined that he could penetrate the wall of Senbonzakura...!"
As soon as they heard the screech and saw the disappearing sakura petals enveloping an injured Tokinada and Aura, those who were watching, seized this opportunity and moved all at once as if it was a chance of a lifetime.
"Ha! Let's destroy that zanpakuto along with his arm!"
Candice was the first to fire one of her 'Galvano Javelin' Heilig Pfeil towards Tokinada, followed by a Cero from Grimmjow.
"And that's that..."
As Tokinada fell to the ground, Ikkaku looked at him, the long spear of 'Hozukimaru' hoisted upon his shoulder.
"Well, even if it was Kyoka Suigetsu, it'll obviously be different from Aizen's."
Yumichika muttered. But they did not relax their fighting posture, neither did they lower their guard. Although Tokinada had fallen, the mysterious Fullbringer woman was still alive.
The Shinigami surrounded Aura.
Hisagi, on the other hand, was breathing in painfully. Perhaps it was because he had continued to swing Kazeshini at incredible speeds which even exceeded his own limits. He desperately tried to catch his breath and calm himself down. He felt his own reiatsu rippling through his body violently, as though every single cell within his entire body was being torn off.
"D-Did...I...do...it?"
Hisagi's shoulders slumped in relief as he sensed Tokinada's reiatsu disappear.
However, a dark shadow took shape within his heart.
-I did fall into the vortex of vengeance too, didn't I?
Hisagi wondered whether it was hatred that caused him to slash the one who had brought despair into Tosen's life, who had robbed Tosen of his future.
-There is no time to think… Aura and Hikone are still left to deal with...
! - "What you bear is not hatred." All of a sudden; words heard in the past; were repeated in his mind.
! - "It is merely a sentiment left behind by the fading footprints of Tosen Kaname." Whose words were they?
! - "Remember this." - "No matter how strong the determination one holds-" Perhaps this was a memory that Hisagi's mind had accumulated; based on his long experience as a Shinigami.
The words heard in his head felt like a warning.
Then, a loud voice jolted him back to reality.
Muguruma's voice reached Hisagi's ears.
"Shuhei! Watch out!
That woman is right there!"
"What?"
Aura's reiatsu could not be detected by reikaku.
In a moment of panic, Hisagi's eyes snapped open, to stop his opponent's actions.
He finally remembered the last part of the sentence.
! - "-it is not possible to slaughter a warrior with sentiment alone." Yes, recalled Hisagi, those were Aizen's words.
In front of his slowly uncovering eyelids, he saw the blade shattering almost simultaneously.
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! "Hmm!?"
The landscape around Hisagi shattered; his open eyes now perceived the truth exposed by Kyoka Suigetsu.
Tokinada's figure, on the ground, was actually Aura's; whereas Aura's figure in front of Hisagi, was actually Tokinada's.
Tokinada had on a strange cloak.
Yoruichi gasped.
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I'll never understand why Hisagi gets focus. Like he has a solid character arc for sure but I always felt he….was kinda plain?
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Who is Hisagi? What kind of arc did he have? And more importantly why is Bleach still relevant in 2019?
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I'll never understand why Hisagi gets focus. Like he has a solid character arc for sure but I always felt he….was kinda plain?
Narita's previous novel had Don Kanonji as main character.
So…
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Kanonji is one of the best characters Kubo ever made.
Hisagi is 69 scythe man.
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Well he copied 69 from Kensei. Just on his face. Like some chauvinistic emo rapper or something.
I mean Kensei, whose original reason for putting it on can't be especially good, could at least hide it with a shirt.
If someone's dick pic started circling around SS, we all know who the first suspect would be.
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well aside from the obvious joke (which I don't think Kubo actually used), the 69 on Kensei has meaning.
"6" from "mugu", part of his name (Muguruma)
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Oh, didn't know that. Or forgot, lol. Could have also been his horoscope sign symbol (Cancer), if his birthday was about a week earlier.
So much missed potential, Kubo.
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do we have a grasp of Hisagi's bankai concept by now, or only Kubo's design?
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All three books were published already, so people should know what both Bankai do by now. They are being translated by some fans, but I don't know how far they got… I only read the first book and didn't felt like going for the second yet (whenever Narita introduces something, he has a need to backtrack and cite every character/related event in the main story to make sure nobody it is going to think there is a plot hole. It happens too constantly, ruins the pace of his narrative and overall makes the book feel like a fanfic to me. It irks me a lot as a reader).
Kanonji is one of the best characters Kubo ever made.
Hisagi is 69 scythe man.
Oops. For some reason I thought you had said Hisagi was non-relevant to the plot, that's why I pointed out Kanonji. But yeah, Kanonji is a remnant from Bleach's best years.
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I don't know if I even want to read those novels. Kubo had ample time to cover all this in the series proper. All of those pointless and boring quincy fights. Those smug monologings. The Chekov's Guns that went completely nowhere. It's fun to bitch about how asinine bleach became with my friends, but damn is it a tiresome series.
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Ah. I didn't bother reading em..
I just read the key points summarized here:https://www.reddit.com/r/bleach/comments/9yvpl8/bleach_tybw_manga_sequel_novel_cant_fear_your_own/
All i was interested in was the origins of the Soul King, and who the new Soul King was and that was dealt with so i'm pleased.
Only thing we still don't know is the two legs of the Soul King and how YWach came to be/how he's the son of the Soul King…. and how he apparently had the same powers as he did... -
It looks like there going to be announcement for Kubo Tite's new project on Issue 19 of Shounen Jump
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Oh how long before it gets axed?
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Weird i thought Kubo didn't like working for Shonen Jump.
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Someone randomly in a raid I was in mentioned that the last arc was getting animated.
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Oh how long before it gets axed?
Kubi is one of those that can write any shit he wants that they will let it run for at least 3 volumes.
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Kubi is one of those that can write any shit he wants that they will let it run for at least 3 volumes.
Would be a bit of a step down from Zombie Powder:ninja:
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Weird i thought Kubo didn't like working for Shonen Jump.
Can't say no to the monies and a platform to communicate his abstract satire poetic storytelling
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Despite how bad the last arcs were, I still like Bleach as a whole and love some of its characters (Tousen is among my favorite manga characters in general up to this day).
Sadly, I have zero interest in anything new Kubo comes with now. I still praise his character designs, he never faltered in this area, and I thank him for a main duo composed of a man and a woman who can be close friends without developing romantic feeling towards each other, but other than that… ugh, Bleach late years are unsalvageable.
Most of Bleach problems seem to come form Kubo developing a too highly opinion of himself to the point that Bleach became an outlet for him to praise himself with what only him could see as interesting twists and developments. Even his art became stale as he kept doing the same panels over and over and over and over again with zero creativity...
If the break after Bleach's end had allowed him to revisit his immense flaws as a story writer and improve, I could be excited to see what he can come up with, but sadly it seems he only got worse.
His recent interview on the JET databook shows a Kubo that is almost delusional, the man even had the nerve to come out and say that whenever he starts a new arc he has everything planned including its end... Yeah, he dared suggest he had the Arrancar arc's ending in mind when he started doing it... guuuurrrl...
So everything points to Kubo having his head stuck even higher up his ass now than he had back then. Anything he comes up with now is probably only going to carry over everything that was bad about Bleach late years and that's the kind of thing one can only force themselves to read out of a sense of obligation. -
I see Orihime and Yoruchi faces.
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Kubo can actually make good character designs if he feels like it
Putting Bleach aside, I would buy an artbook of characters designed by him. -
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Kubo can actually make good character designs if he feels like it
Putting Bleach aside, I would buy an artbook of characters designed by him.Same here. Love drawing his characters. Wish I had more time for it, though. :P
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As others have said, kubo's art and character design is pretty solid. He should team up with someone who can actually write to create a glorious series.
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As others have said, kubo's art and character design is pretty solid. He should team up with someone who can actually write to create a glorious series.
I like his character design, but I could almost never tell what was happening in late Bleach and I'm not sure I was supposed to be.
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I like his character design, but I could almost never tell what was happening in late Bleach and I'm not sure I was supposed to be.
He kept spilling his ink
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Did something happened? Why are we suddenly talking about this again?
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Did something happened? Why are we suddenly talking about this again?
No, nothing happened.
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so… now Nel and Grimmjow also have Segunda Etapa (Second Stage Resurrection)..
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Those are not Segunda Etapa, they are "a power greater than Resurrección". It is for the gacha, but as far as I know only Ulquiorra's and an Ichigo new form were designed by Kubo Tite. It has something to do with the hougyoku but I don't know, I don't play the game.
Ulquiorra, Zommari, Yammy and Nnoitra, btw (all of them look awful):
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Pumpkin guy is Zenyata
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Those are not Segunda Etapa, they are "a power greater than Resurrección". It is for the gacha, but as far as I know only Ulquiorra's and an Ichigo new form were designed by Kubo Tite. It has something to do with the hougyoku but I don't know, I don't play the game.
Ulquiorra, Zommari, Yammy and Nnoitra, btw (all of them look awful):
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[qimg]http://beta.bravesouls.fyi/static/img/en/Characters/1125/stand_gacha.png[/qimg]
[qimg]http://beta.bravesouls.fyi/static/img/en/Characters/1124/stand_gacha.png[/qimg]
[qimg]http://beta.bravesouls.fyi/static/img/en/Characters/1123/stand_gacha.png[/qimg]Oh. ThaNk you for the clarification.
I knew it, never trust bleach utuber.So, this mean its not canon. Thats good even though i like Nel's.
Why Kubo make yammy look like that. Somehow it feel like its far from Yammy giant monkey design style. It make him look generic edgy design like other new forms. -
These look like some edgy deviant art designs. Though, to be honest, I've seen some pretty cool stuff from fanart.
Also, Nel only gets love in noncanon content. Fuck you Kubo.
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What you were expecting a female character not named Rukia or Yorouichi to be used meaningfully.
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Those are not Segunda Etapa, they are "a power greater than Resurrección". It is for the gacha, but as far as I know only Ulquiorra's and an Ichigo new form were designed by Kubo Tite. It has something to do with the hougyoku but I don't know, I don't play the game.
Ulquiorra, Zommari, Yammy and Nnoitra, btw (all of them look awful):
! http://beta.bravesouls.fyi/static/img/en/Characters/0966/stand_gacha.png
http://beta.bravesouls.fyi/static/img/en/Characters/1125/stand_gacha.png
http://beta.bravesouls.fyi/static/img/en/Characters/1124/stand_gacha.png
http://beta.bravesouls.fyi/static/img/en/Characters/1123/stand_gacha.pngIs there a better link for me to see the images? My PC doesn't let me want to load the images for whatever reason. What do they look like fullbody style?
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It seems the site is down. Don't know one place to find them all, but it should be easy to google them (look for "beyond ressureccion")
EDIT: There are concept arts (missing Ulquiorra)
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Yammy looks like the bastard child of Godzilla and Balrog.
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Well I do like the designs.
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Yeah nice designs but makes me bit sad.
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Kubo making the villains look awesome again. I love this timeline man.
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Hey look, Ulquiorra finally has the heart.
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A lot of these designs are just too busy. There's way too much detail on them. Simplify, Kubo, simplify.