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    • Elektrik Dynomite
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      I usually wait til they are on the Funimation App to watch, and then I buy the Collection sets

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        So it's only me and Blake, lol. I bet the digital sets sell only in the low hundreds. Probably the physical releases sell in the low thousands.

        These are blind guesses, obviously.

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          Doesn't seem to be available on the UK microsoft store, seems such a weird niche only available platform alienating a lot of anime fans, am I misremembering or around the time they started doing that didn't they also release on amazon to buy?

          Still get so confused as to why the licencing for UK seems to be so far behind with getting the releases.

          I've got quite a bit of buffer with episodes to be watching. Usually watch with my dad and little sister. Last thing I watched was the Film gold filler arc and then Heart of Gold. Then after film Z can finally reach Zou.

          Main thing I'm anticipating is some great Brook moments (more so when we get Totland). Is the Master Cat-Viper song any good in the dub?

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            @Krillin:

            am I misremembering or around the time they started doing that didn't they also release on amazon to buy?

            Yeah, in the US, Season 10 and Season 11 V1-4 were simultaneously released on Microsoft and Amazon. So anyone who was using Amazon had to switch platforms and have their episodes split between two different libraries.

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            Doesn't seem to be available on the UK microsoft store

            Starting fairly recently, they've been adding episodes to the UK store starting from episode 1. They've added up to the end of Enies Lobby, so maybe eventually they'll catch up. And add the Japanese episodes like in the US. And charge a more reasonable price (£37.50 a Voyage! Are you kidding me?).
            Stampede's on offer for £4 at the moment, which is a good deal if you don't mind either owning a Microsoft device in perpetuity or losing access to the movie at some point.

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              I’ve bought every digital release since season 11

              http://25.media.tumblr.com/bcfcb30da…f4f5o1_500.gif

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                That makes three of us lol

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                  Man, I really love that latest Kaido performance. He nails the intimidation, and the voice is so interesting/unique. Can’t wait to get to Wano to hear that almost weekly.

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                    So Crunchyroll and Funimation are officially merging their content. However, it doesn't appear that the One Piece dub is coming over to Crunchyroll. So I guess I'll have to keep paying for both services?

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                      I’m also confused about whether AoT & Demon Slayer will come weekly to CR. Currently, they come weekly to Funi. Gonna wait a few weeks to see how this shakes out regards OP streaming new eps and AoT/DS before I switch over.

                      Neither app is great, but the Funimation app has always given me less problems, so I hope CR gets their shit together and redesigns their app soon.

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                        @Zephray:

                        I’m also confused about whether AoT & Demon Slayer will come weekly to CR. Currently, they come weekly to Funi. Gonna wait a few weeks to see how this shakes out regards OP streaming new eps and AoT/DS before I switch over.

                        Neither app is great, but the Funimation app has always given me less problems, so I hope CR gets their shit together and redesigns their app soon.

                        Yeah AoT, Demon Slayer, and One Piece are the only shows I'm currently watching on Funi, so I really hope they announce those soon.
                        I just re-subscribed to Funi last week too, so hopefully I can get some sorta refund when I cancel, since I pay for yearly.

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                          You should check out Ranking of Kings. That anime is the best one this year by far

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                            @Zephray:

                            You should check out Ranking of Kings. That anime is the best one this year by far

                            Oh I plan to, just waiting for the dub to be complete so I can marathon. Same with Odd Taxi

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                              https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/crunchyroll-adds-funimation-anime-sony-1235192876/?sub_action=logged_in

                              Funimation is no more! LONG LIVE FUNIMATION!

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                                Dang, this is a end of era in a way. Since I been watching Funimation stuff since the Ocean dub era of both Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. I'm guessing the future One Piece home video releases will be Sony home video releases.

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                                  So does this mean no more physical releases? streaming only now?

                                  FC: 5043 2397 0050 In Game trainer name (WolfWood)

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                                    We probably get physical releases still.

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                                      So does this mean no more physical releases?

                                      In all likelihood, the physical releases will continue with the same producers but a different logo on the spine/opening (assuming that Sony is phasing out the Funimation brand entirely). There's no need for Sony to have two anime streaming services, but Funi seems to be doing just fine in terms of home video.

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                                        Woahhhh

                                        ”In addition to consolidation of two streaming services, Sony-owned Funimation Global Group LLC will now operate as Crunchyroll LLC and has initiated rebranding across its global footprint.”

                                        So yeah, the logo on releases will change to either Sony or Crunchyroll, and the new episodes will be dubbed by “Crunchyroll” and no longer “Funimation.” What a bummer. I guess the sub giant won out over the dub giant. Certainly confirms that subs are bigger in the states.

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                                          I mean, sony may just consider crunchyroll a more recognizable name. It’s not that Funimation did not have a reach, they have dragonball for gods sake, they’re just not primarily known for their streaming nor is their name itself as recognizable. Crunchyroll has had several big pushes as a sponsor on youtube videos and such, I think it’s merely a situation of better advertising.

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                                            That’s what I was saying. The service that focused on subs was the more successful company.

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                                              What I was saying is I do not think it is necessarily because subs are preferred over dubs. I am not explicitly saying that is not true either, but I feel like lonely framing it that way is kindve disingenuous

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                                                I will have you know that Crunchyroll dubbed stuff too,Zephray!

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                                                  @Captain:

                                                  https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/crunchyroll-adds-funimation-anime-sony-1235192876/?sub_action=logged_in

                                                  Funimation is no more! LONG LIVE FUNIMATION!

                                                  Interesting chain of events here, man itnis truly the end of an era I been rocking with Funimation for years now. I hope that it doesn't effect the dub for OP or at with it mainly being under CR now we can hopefully get the dub simulcast now

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                                                    Crunchyroll was likely chosen over Funimation because of their wider global presence. I know that Funi has recently been expanding, but Crunchyroll has been available outside of America for a long time, already supports many different languages, and will be known to almost all English Funimation users.
                                                    One Piece is a good example of this. Crunchyroll already hosts the series in the Americas, the UK, Europe, Australasia, the Middle East, and North Africa. Funimation only seems to stream the series in North America, where they share the license with Crunchyroll anyway.

                                                    Hopefully they'll add S12V3 alongside Funi on March 15, and just maybe the UK will finally get a stream of the dub.

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                                                      As has been said, Crunchyroll is available worldwide.

                                                      Funimation meanwhile region locked its own website for years and years. Not just the videos. Access to the website itself.

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                                                        This is still odd to me since Funimation has been around longer than Crunchyroll.

                                                        It's going to be even odder when the Funi logo is no longer used on the physical box sets.

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                                                          Wow…I'm legit sad. Can't believe we're losing the FUNi name.

                                                          I hope the FUNi app sticks around, because it's easier to watch content on my smart TV than to constantly open the Crunchyroll app so I can AirPlay it over to the TV.

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                                                            Yeah, this entire situation with Funimation is sad. Since I still remember buying the first two Funimation dub vhs tapes of their dub for Dragon Ball Z (the two tapes were Captain Ginyu: Assault and Captain Ginyu: Double Cross) during the beginning of Summmer 1999 before tv airings of Season 3 debut in the fall and I also remember buying the Freeza saga vhs tapes as they came out.

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                                                              so FUNi went from fighting illegal streaming battles with CR to basically being owned by CR in just 14 years. Crazy

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                                                                I’m kind of confused. They call Zunisha a woman at some point, yet her voice sounds very masculine.

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                                                                  I’m up for trans Zunesha.

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                                                                    Yeah but that wasn’t the intention. I think they just messed up in translation? Either that or Oda did or the characters were just mistaken.

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                                                                      @Zephray:

                                                                      I’m kind of confused. They call Zunisha a woman at some point, yet her voice sounds very masculine.

                                                                      Orochimaru is voiced by a woman with such a deep voice that it might as well just be a man voicing him.

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                                                                        I am aware, it was a joke. From what I can find Zuneshas gender is never explicitly stated in the manga at least. But there’s enough ambiguity I just don’t particularly care if they make a mistake, technically nothing abt it is even inherently contradictory. Like Zunesha does not even speak that’s a mental projection or however you’d refer to it.

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                                                                          Where is our resident episodes-per-set guesser with guesses for WCI? Do we expect 12 episode sets for the foreseeable future?

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                                                                            4 voyages will be 13 episodes, 5 will be 14 episodes.

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                                                                              Your math is off there; that totals to 122 episodes when it should be 109.

                                                                              Season 13 should either be:

                                                                              3 “13 episode” voyages and 5 “14 episode” voyages
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                                                                              8 “12 episode” voyages and 1 “13 episode” voyage

                                                                              And I’m more inclined to believe the latter, since 12-13 episodes is generally the standard count for these sets

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                                                                                I meant the former thing you said. With the sole exception of season 3 which I think was handled slightly different due to how it was produced, historically we’ve had as few voyages as possible to get through a set, 14 episodes being the maximum simply cuz that’s the most that fits on two DVDs. 3 sets of 12 episodes just so happened to be the most efficient way to split up season 12, 8 voyages of 13 episodes and 1 of 14 episodes just so happened to be the best way to split up season 11.

                                                                                Looking at it it’s just clear to me that’s how it’s been prioritized. That’s why we’ve had periods where we’ve gotten 13 set episodes regularly, but only 11 for others. They always have an established episode count to reach based largely on the arc, they’re not actively thinking “we should make this individual voyage longer or shorter”, but the season as a whole. They don’t make a single voyage at once, and now that these arcs are going on for so long it only makes sense to release them in as a few as possible. I doubt these are selling well enough to milk more releases than necessary.

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                                                                                  Though I hope you’re right, I see the company trying to make the maximum amount of profit. So I’m 100% expecting the smaller sets of 12 with one 13.

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                                                                                    You’ve said yourself you know they must not sell well, I just don’t see any possible motive. They didn’t stretch out dressrosa to 10 voyages when they could’ve.

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                                                                                      Motive is making as much money as possible. It doesn’t matter whether the sets sell well. Selling two of them makes more money than selling one. Also, less episodes per set allows the sets to come out faster, which they also want.

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                                                                                        Again, they don’t produce by voyage. Like when it comes to batches of episodes directors, it appears episodes from the end of one voyage and the beginning of the next will be in their interest. I’m pretty sure there would be little to no extra time if they did larger voyages, and I just don’t know why you would suddenly expect them to do smaller voyages when they literally just did fewer voyages than they could’ve for season 11.

                                                                                        From a business perspective, yes on paper selling more pieces means more money, but to me it’s pretty clear their objective is just to catch up at this point, they want to maintain interest and dwindle in the same areas as little as possible. Taking too long with too many releases could very well mean less sales in the long run.

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                                                                                          Again, I hope you’re right. But Funimation/CR/Sony are companies. So “from a business perspective” is often all that matters to them. Doing less for DR would’ve meant doing multiple 11-episode sets, right? That’s well below the 13 that most fans expect, so I don’t think they would do that at the cost of pissing off fans/purchasers.

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                                                                                            The new dub episodes hit FUNi's site on the 15th, right?

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                                                                                              You say they only think from a business perspective, then go to say you think they made a decision in order to not upset fans? Don’t you find that at least a bit contradictory? I also just established why I think doing less sets would make sense from a business perspective anyways. Honestly, they’re close enough at this point I wouldn’t even mind 9 voyages that much. 8 just seems more in line with their decision making imo.

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                                                                                                Doing the standard 12-13 episodes is in keeping with their practices up until this point. Doing less or more on a consistent basis would be a break from their practices. I hope you’re right that they’ll do more episodes than they’ve ever done before for this upcoming season. More sets means more money for them, and it’s also good for them to not upset fans, which would likely result in less money for them. You’re being petty and arguing semantics with your “you’re contradictory” line, and you know it.

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                                                                                                  It is “more than their usual practices” because the way they do it simply hasn’t allowed for that many as of yet. I think having more voyages than possible would very much upset fans. From scrolling through average twitter replies, to put it bluntly most people expect 13 episodes, and when we DO get 13 episodes, they think it’s 12 because they do not know how to do the math properly. That may seem like a trivial point, but I assure you at this point I have seen it so many times I am fully convinced that is the majority of people. Either way I don’t think many people are that concerned with precise episode count beyond “we want more”. Like it’s constant complaining abt how slow it is no matter how fast we get it.

                                                                                                  Honestly you just seem to be kindve inconsistent with what you consider what would and wouldn’t make people upset and effect sales just in order to convey a pessimistic narrative. Like again! I wouldn’t even mind that much if we got 9 voyages! and it’s not like, literally impossible. I’m not trying to say that, there is a level of unpredictability and inconsistency caused by funimation and they fact they’ve had this property for like 15 years. But you can acknowledge if positive outcomes seem somewhat possible or likely it’s okay I promise. IIll drop this after this probably I don’t have much else to say..

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                                                                                                    Hopefully they will just sell large amount of episode sets. Isn't that what the Boruto home releases do currently with like 20 eps a set?

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                                                                                                      I highly doubt it, they’ve kept this model for over a decade.

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                                                                                                        @Blake:

                                                                                                        I highly doubt it, they’ve kept this model for over a decade.

                                                                                                        And you’re calling me ​contradictory?

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