@Blake-Bakes-Cakes neither do I but he cursed us from getting good dub songs and special features like commentaries and DVD games. Now it’s just a product that sells DVDs and Blu-ray of episodes and that’s it. 🥲
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That happened completely independent from him though??
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Yeah Vic has nothing to do with this. Losing dubbed songs 10000% is likely some licensing thing / probably takes a more work than its worth (in their opinion).
I originally thought we lost commentaries because Covid, but since its still not happening, I started to suspect Toei put the end to them since they took over. Idk why though.
But looking at other current releases, its seems like nothing else gets much in the way of commentary or special features either, so maybe its a Crunchyroll thing?
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@Elektrik-Dynomite no idea but honestly I have no hope for the future of anime having dubbed songs or special features anytime soon. Japan is a stubborn bull that you need to cook bbq with just to even get bloopers in one anime DVD. I have no hope for the future of the anime industry if they keep regressing backwards just for money. Japan still having no fair use laws in 2024 is hurting them both creatively and economically. I wish we could make a law forcing Japan to have their own version of fair use laws. But unlikely as Totally Not Mark is both blacklisted and rumored to be on a Hitman list from the yakuza if he steps in to the country. I wanna be happy for One Piece but I hate this corporate bullshit!
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I think the commentaries were just an expense that they determined wasn’t worth doing. They have to pay all the actors for appearing, then they have to pay the editors & sound engineers to make it watchable. OP is bare-bones now, not owned by CR but paid on a per-work basis by Toei. Adding extras to their bill probably just isn’t seen as necessary by them. They do one per season, figure that’s enough.
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@Zephray I guess so.
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The new Spice & Wolf just started getting dubbed, and the first episode includes a dubbed version of the OP.
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@Nitwit Lol was literally about to post about the new Spice & Wold season got their opening dubbed by Crunchyroll, so no need for the doom and gloom.
Also I followed the YouTube takedown for Mark, and I've never heard of this rumored hitman list, so pretty sure that is hyperbole.
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@Nitwit Again, Vic has nothing to do with this topic either. The last time we got a dubbed song in One Piece was in 2011, not counting songs like Binks' Sake or the Sogeking theme. Vic's problematic issues were brought to light much later in 2019. The lack of special features also has nothing to do with Vic.
I wish they kept going with the dubbed songs too. Was looking forward to hearing an official English dubbed Kokoro no Chizu since the dub began in 2007.
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@MugiMikey I'm feeling sad because I'm low on money, and moving to another country for a whole year where I'll have to speak a foreign language will be challenging. Additionally, the company I worked for doesn't have stores in Europe, so they're going to let me go. I might have to find another way to make money since my family needs me to be in Europe for a year. I just have to get used to the changes.
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The most recent set will be available on Crunchyroll May 5:
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Yay, an announcement with a release date! Boo that it’s a couple days later than usual, but for Luffy’s Birthday I’ll make an exception.
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On the subject of the dub itself:
Colleen and David really knocked it out of the park! Luci also nailed Nami's scene with Kaido. Loved that.
Something I noticed while watching this is that 1071 was MUCH easier to follow in the dub than I found it to be in the original. I think a big part of this might be the unique advantage that the dub voices over the original voices -- they get to record against the finished animation and not the other way around. Looking at Chansard's work, it seems obvious to me that he's animating against lines that have already been recorded, and that's likely what's going on when Mayumi Tanaka's Luffy is making random Gear 5 sounds -- they don't seem to perfectly match the actual action of the scene, unlike Colleen's very deliberate inflection and sounds, or how Kaido's voice while getting thrown around by Luffy sounds timed to the scene rather than the other way around.
I know dubbing has its own set of challenges, especially against Chansard's mouth animation fidelity, but holy cow did they put in the effort to make sure it sounds as good as it looks.
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@Kitsune-Inferno Wait, that's weird. Last I remember Japanese voice actors record their lines pretty late into production after the animation is already finished. As far as I know when it comes to anime, the Japanese cast records their lines as they watch the footage, much like how dubs are recorded. I suppose things could have changed since I last heard about it since the industry is much different now, but it'd be news to me.
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@MugiMikey It's an assumption on my part, I have no idea if Japan does it differently (I always learned to do audio first, then animate later), but it certainly doesn't FEEL like 1071 was done animation-first.
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Yeah anime is almost always animated first, thats why lip flaps are the standard way of animating speech over there in the first place. I think sometimes for films and stuff they’ll occur simultaneously, dubbers reference doing so to unfinished stuff from them from time to time, but at the very least in this interest I figure its probably just the direction.
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They usually will dub to animation yeah, specifically the layouts of the scenes before they get corrected and all, but due sometimes to scheduling issues and just the nature of the anime industry the layouts won't be done in time so they'll have to record to the storyboard for some scenes. Not sure if that was the case here for Vincent's scene but it is something that happens more often than some think.
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@Trueblade74 said in Funimation DVD Discussion IV (Please Check First Post for FAQ):
The new Spice & Wolf just started getting dubbed, and the first episode includes a dubbed version of the OP.
I saw a post on Twitter that said the dubbed opening for the new Spice & Wolf was provided by Japan.
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@Zek said in Funimation DVD Discussion IV (Please Check First Post for FAQ):
Yay, an announcement with a release date! Boo that it’s a couple days later than usual, but for Luffy’s Birthday I’ll make an exception.
Yeah, kind of a facepalm that they delayed the release for Luffy’s birthday.
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In other news, Season 14 Voyage 16 is releasing October 20th in celebration of the animes 25th anniversary !!
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@Blake-Bakes-Cakes said in Funimation DVD Discussion IV (Please Check First Post for FAQ):
In other news, Season 14 Voyage 16 is releasing October 20th in celebration of the animes 25th anniversary !!
I dont know if this is a joke.
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it is lol
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That reminds, did they plan ANYTHING special for the 25 anniversary? Dubwise or not?
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Not yet, but I think things are rarely announced that far in advance. I think there will probably be something.
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There were a few Toonami watchers last night who thought Sabo got redubbed. Guess nobody told them that Dressrosa didn't get dubbed until 2021 - if this thread is to be trusted, the dub halted progress near the end of Fishman Island in late 2017 and they spent 2020 playing catchup with partly-finished Punk Hazard stuff?
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From what we know from the behind the scenes stuff, they begin dubbing Punk Hazard back in 2017 or 2018, but they have to stopped for some reason.
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Why does Film Gold have such an extensive cast list on Netflix?:
The home video release didn't have this, nor do any of the other OP movies on Netflix
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@midod Money?
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Man, I remember the days when Rightstuf or Funimation would mail you things so early you’d get them before release day; now I’m lucky to get them several days after release day.
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@Zephray we should file this to the FTC and FCC about this injustice
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@Nitwit said in Funimation DVD Discussion IV (Please Check First Post for FAQ):
@Zephray we should file this to the FTC and FCC about this injustice
We cant, Those entities hold NO CONTROL over home video releases, that is why Funimation could release uncut stuff without any care about waht the FTC and FCC wanted.
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@Captain-Krupp That's messed up and should be illegal. They're killing off physical media, and both Sony and CrunchyRoll need to be investigated. I'm going to ask Joe Biden to investigate CrunchyRoll and Sony to ensure that media never becomes entirely digital.
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The dub for episode 1062 -1073 is now up on crunchyroll.
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@Nitwit you just have joe on speedial or something?
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An egghead arc/simuldub announcement would be great about now. I don’t wanna catch up and wait 3 months between releases
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…but the recap special isn’t up with them. Weirdly just has a single episode that’s subbed only in the middle of everything. Special 7, between 1061 & 1062. Was this episode dubbed on the digital sets? I also don’t see it on any illegal streaming sites.
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Update of my progress of catching up on the dub. I'm up to Episode 947 (Queen taking Big Mom to Onigashima and the Plague stuff is starting up. I got alot to to talk about from Episodes 926- 947 of the dub.
First off the dub doing a great job on Wano act 2 so far. I really like the dub voices for Hiyori, Toko, Orochi, and Queen are great. Queen in the dub have been stealing the show whenever he's on the screen. From the last episode that I watch the Queen freaking out about Big Mom made me laugh really hard.
The dub did amazing job on the Zoro stuff in this section of episodes (Zoro fight against Killer, Zoro's reaction Hiyori telling him about the Smile fruit, and Zoro and Sanji saving Toko from Orochi.). Also I like to mention that I like how the transition to the gold logo in the Dreaming on opening.
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Watching the new episodes on Crunchyroll. I guess this is how we'll be watching from now on? The dub track just slapped onto the Japanese simulcast footage with no subtitles or English titles whatsoever?
Saw the first new scene with the Five Elders. Sounds like they completely recast Ju Peter. He lost the raspy voice and sounds...British now???
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Whoops, wife and I accidentally watched the whole set in two nights. Our faces hurt from smiling so much.
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I got Collection 34 today. I think crunchyroll did a mistake. The first two discs got the Season 13, Voyage 4 disc label, while discs 3 and 4 is the normal collection discs (Discs 3 and 4 covers Season 13, Voyage 5.). This is one of those funny mistakes.
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The dubs of the One Piece tv specials are now up on crunchyroll.
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@Zephray The numbering on Microsoft is wack, are you referring to Zoro vs. A Lead Performer! Recapping Fierce Fights? It's the 14th episode on Voyage 14 and NOT on Voyage 15 based on my local files. That's weird they didn't include it in that batch. But when has Crunchyroll ever been known to give a damn about the One Piece dub in any capacity?
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Yeah, they clearly forgot to include it. I guess we could report it?
Here's the contact page. Y'all can report the lack of english text here, too.
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Here’s their response:
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@Zephray man, they encouraging people to go the Pirate Bay route oof. Toei Animation needs to fix this problem
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I think it's just some random support agent they've outsourced with a script. I sincerely doubt there's some acquisition glitch holding up this one special episode from streaming. It's just because it was at the tail end of the voyage and the uploader didn't get the extra note beyond "upload episode x to episode x".
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I really need them to fix this "missing English subtitles" issue. It's making watching the One Piece dub a hassle.
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@G1Ravage send them an email. Make your voice heard.
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They did fix the issue with the recap episode missing, it’s now added.
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@Zephray it’s up now. I ended up contacting them also to let them know it’s missing. Looks like they just waited until Tuesday to fix.