Do you think Jack has a strong officer on each ship ?
Chapter 819: Momonosuke, Heir of the Kouzuki Clan
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well his second in command on Zou seemed to be sheepshead, and we all saw how powerful he was.
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Do you think Jack has a strong officer on each ship ?
IDK, right now we just know about Ginrammy and Sheepshead. What I am sure of is the fact that Jack is pretty nuts. Went into a storm to fight an Admiral a former Fleet Admiral and a Viceadmiral, and now he wants to kill a thousands year old elephant.
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well his second in command on Zou seemed to be sheepshead, and we all saw how powerful he was.
He might be stronger than it seemed.
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Maybe he is worth 999 men and Sanji had the upper hand.
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He was blind sided by Sanji. And as far as we know, he might be able to transform further than he had.
At the very least, he could pose a threat to people weaker than Sanji.
Still, as far as Jack was concerned, there was nobody other than dead minks on the island, so I doubt he'd leave his most capable men there instead of taking them to fight marines.
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So if I were to tally it up hypothetically, We'd have Jack, Ginrummy, Sheepshead, and whatever other solid lower-level officers they introduce and a bunch of fodder (though they are Beasts Pirates and live in the new world). On the other side (I hope I don't miss anyone) we've got Luffy, Law, Zoro, Franky, Robin, the weak trio, Law's crew, Kinemon and Kanjuro, Pekoms and the Minks and their leaders. Hmm. Seems kind of one-sided huh? I'm guessing Jack can do some major tanking as a Mammoth Zoan and just being/looking sturdy as hell. I wonder if he'll be like Whitebeard and just tank a godly amount of damage while wreaking everything lol!
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I'm hearing we'll get an early chapter this week, is that true?
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@zeff:
I'm hearing we'll get an early chapter this week, is that true?
Where the hell do you heard that in the first place?
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He might be stronger than it seemed.
He felt like around pre-timeskip Supernova. I mean that he is given some position of middle boss of Gifters, that surely means something.
I would say he is somewehere around as strong as Scotch was being given "some" position but getting beaten by Supernova in direct fight, maybe stronger than Caribou.
Sanji KOing Sheepshead reminded me of Pekoms KOing Caribou if that says anything.
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@zeff:
I'm hearing we'll get an early chapter this week, is that true?
you would only get a chance of that if it was a holiday in japan that forced them to print it early.
people would have posted it before you if that was true.
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@zeff:
found this on fb
http://i998.mangapanda.com/assassination-classroom/177/assassination-classroom-7137679.jpgIf I understand correctly, it says WSJ is comingo out tomorrow just like it is supossed to be.
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If I understand correctly, it says WSJ is comingo out tomorrow just like it is supossed to be.
Yes but this is the one with chapter 819. Next issue is on the 19th instead of the 21st apparently (spring equinox)
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All right, the VIZ version's here. Woohoo! Like last chapter, most panels between VIZ and Mangastream said the same thing, just worded a little differently.
- MS page 9. Basically, on that page, Inuarashi's like "All it took was one of Kaido's squads to leave Zou looking like this", and Franky replied, "Yeah, but that's cuz he played dirty and used that weapon." Inu's reply to that (last panel of his on that page) doesn't quite fit in MS: "We may be able to come to terms with losing to the underhanded tactics of a cowardly enemy." In VIZ, he points out (in reply to Franky) "There's no such thing as being disqualified for fighting dirty in war," and Franky's bubble next to it acknowledges "Right." That makes a little more sense.
- Not really sure what to make of it, but the flashback speech bubbles at the bottom of page 12 are a little different. I guess VIZ's version sounds more encouraging, but either way, it's hard to tell who's talking to Momo. MS version: "Momonosuke! You will never be able to learn about it in its entirety. This is the real world!" VIZ: "Gaze out upon it! That is the world…Momonosuke!"
- The dialogue in the middle panels of page 16: instead of using "faith in" Momo/Law/etc., VIZ uses "pact". Inuarashi: "And thus the pact is formed". Law: "And what about our pact, Straw Hat?" Luffy: "Huh? You don't mind, right?" Law: "I don't, but still!" So yeah, it also confirms that Law wasn't actually opposed to helping the samurai at all.
- Like the first translation, the alliance actually is supposed to have four names–"Ninja-Pirate-Mink-Samurai"-- so the "ninja" is a separate category from the "samurai".
- Zoro: "In that case, I'm worth…two thousand." Nami: "Sure you are".
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@zeff:
found this on fb
http://i998.mangapanda.com/assassination-classroom/177/assassination-classroom-7137679.jpgOoh, yeah, so maybe we are getting an early chapter this week! Also, I don't see WJ17 (but the 28th is blocked by the giant "3", so I don't know), but is it saying 18-19 is gonna be a double issue (i.e. one chapter for 2 weeks)?
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If Kaido really wants to kill himself why doesn't he just jump into the ocean….I don't understand all the hate for the idea of Momo possibly becoming next nakama, he is allready showing charachter development he has an interesting chemistry with Luffy, a funny gag with how the girls don't realize he's a mini pervert, and seems to fit all of the criteria ( is unique , has a ton of fighting potential, a bad ass devil fruit and a huge goal.) I think we've seen the end of his whiny side for the most part and I just find him a way better fit as a SH than most characters we've met. For those that say Momo can't because he wants to become Shogun of Wano I find that to be a weak argument because he basically just wants to protect Wano and the best way to do that is to grow stronger and take down the evil forces that are currently and will continually threaten Wano down the road so I don't see the problem. I'm not saying it's gong to happen or not I'm just wondering why almost every other chapter thread there is atleast 1 comment about how shitty it would be if Momo joined the crew
I agree with your point, just as an addition, i do think it would add a different dynamic to the crew interactions should he joins. not with his 3 stooges tho.. (they can run wano in his stead). I do believe that lord oden's last word left an impact on these guys, and wano might actually be a country that is finally open to the world once the wano arc ends.And lastly what better way for the future shogun of wano to both follow his father's footsteps of seeing the outside world (actually learn about the world before leading wano to a different era) and actually continuing the kozuki tradition and learning the poneglyph (or just how to read ancient text) from robin whilst travelling the seas with SH.
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I think the fact that Jack came back to Zou means he will be defeated here…there is no point for him to show up n then show up in wano again, enough of him lol He will get owned in Zou and that will really setup the Kaidou vs Ninja-Mink-Pirate alliance war and avert Kaidous attention towards it.
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Ooh, yeah, so maybe we are getting an early chapter this week! Also, I don't see WJ17 (but the 28th is blocked by the giant "3", so I don't know), but is it saying 18-19 is gonna be a double issue (i.e. one chapter for 2 weeks)?
The 18-19 thing is referencing Assassination Classroom Volumes 18-19, with one being released this month, and the next in April (Volume 18 was released March 4th, and Volume 19 will be released on April 4th).
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@zeff:
I'm hearing we'll get an early chapter this week, is that true?
Yes, Jump is out on Saturday(19th) this week since Monday is a Japanese holiday.
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woo excited for an early chapter…not happy with 1 less hour of sleep lol this will make the week better...when can we expect chapter? tue/wed?
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@Galaxy:
The 18-19 thing is referencing Assassination Classroom Volumes 18-19, with one being released this month, and the next in April (Volume 18 was released March 4th, and Volume 19 will be released on April 4th).
Oh, okay, thanks. Since it's almost time for Oda-sensei to take another break soon, I'm guessing either 17 or 18 won't have a chapter anyway.
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So since we are getting an early chapter; that mostly means break next week but I don't know yet
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Yes, Jump is out on Saturday(19th) this week since Monday is a Japanese holiday.
Here's next weeks preview with the street date if anyone is having doubts.
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@Buggy:
woo excited for an early chapter…not happy with 1 less hour of sleep lol this will make the week better...when can we expect chapter? tue/wed?
I'd say Wednesday at the latest. Also HxH is back. \o/
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@joekido:
So since we are getting an early chapter; that mostly means break next week but I don't know yet
Well, I do think a break is fairly likely, but not because of the early chapter. We're getting an early chapter this week because WJ16 (Weekly Jump issue 16) comes out on Saturday the 19th (instead of Monday the 21st, since this particular Monday is the Vernal Equinox), but the next issue, WJ17, should still come out the following Monday the 28th, which means next week's chapter would come out on the usual Thursday instead of the early day we'll get it this week. However, since this week's chapter, 820, will be four in a row, it's totally possible that we won't get one next week anyway because of Oda-sensei's usual breaks.
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Here's next weeks preview with the street date if anyone is having doubts.
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I'd say Wednesday at the latest. Also HxH is back. \o/
Where did you get tjat HxH will be back? Is it in the cover?
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Where did you get tjat HxH will be back? Is it in the cover?
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@Galaxy:
Thanks.
It's been a long hiatus but did gon always have green hair? -
Thanks.
It's been a long hiatus but did gon always have green hair?In the manga, yes, but the anime went with black.
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If Kaido really wants to kill himself why doesn't he just jump into the ocean….
I don't understand all the hate for the idea of Momo possibly becoming next nakama, he is allready showing charachter development he has an interesting chemistry with Luffy, a funny gag with how the girls don't realize he's a mini pervert, and seems to fit all of the criteria ( is unique , has a ton of fighting potential, a bad ass devil fruit and a huge goal.) I think we've seen the end of his whiny side for the most part and I just find him a way better fit as a SH than most characters we've met. For those that say Momo can't because he wants to become Shogun of Wano I find that to be a weak argument because he basically just wants to protect Wano and the best way to do that is to grow stronger and take down the evil forces that are currently and will continually threaten Wano down the road so I don't see the problem. I'm not saying it's gong to happen or not I'm just wondering why almost every other chapter thread there is atleast 1 comment about how shitty it would be if Momo joined the crewKaido wants to die in a big way like whitebeard did or by doing something more dangerous than he has before if he was part fishman then the drowning thing would not work anyways lol.
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@sanji''s_dad:
Kaido wants to die in a big way like whitebeard did or by doing something more dangerous than he has before if he was part fishman then the drowning thing would not work anyways lol.
It doesn't work this way. Decken had to be inside a bubble when in the water because of his DF.
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Thanks.
It's been a long hiatus but did gon always have green hair?In the beggining it was much more darker green, like the anime. His hair seems black but the highlights show it's actually green.
But then Togashi started coloring it a lighter shade of green. In some covers or colorspreads Togashi actually just changes the green for another palette but most of the time Gon's hair is green.You can check it out on the wikia. http://hunterxhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Gon_Freecss/Image_Gallery
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It doesn't work this way. Decken had to be inside a bubble when in the water because of his DF.
He had to be in a bubble because he wanted to be able to move. He can still breathe under water…His Gills are still open to be able to breathe. DF doesn't affect it.
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I really hope Jack succeeds in giving Zunisha a grievous wound so Chopper can flex his stuff; maybe talk to and get to know the old elephant a bit.
And I'm probably alone in this.. but I kind of get the feeling that the fight with Jack will be completely one-sided, with him being made an example of, Bellamy style. No real basis for this and of course very doubtful, but hey, just thought I'd put it out there. :ninja:
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I really hope Jack succeeds in giving Zunisha a grievous wound so Chopper can flex his stuff; maybe talk to and get to know the old elephant a bit.
And I'm probably alone in this.. but I kind of get the feeling that the fight with Jack will be completely one-sided, with him being made an example of, Bellamy style. No real basis for this and of course very doubtful, but hey, just thought I'd put it out there. :ninja:
or zou could just shit on jacks fleet and go back to walking around lol.
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If we learned anything from Jack so far it's that he likes chopping off limbs. Oda has been on a huge limb losing streak, I'm going with Jack takes a leg. I'll be some what disappointed they try to take down Zuniesha with gas…
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I really hope Jack succeeds in giving Zunisha a grievous wound so Chopper can flex his stuff; maybe talk to and get to know the old elephant a bit.
And I'm probably alone in this.. but I kind of get the feeling that the fight with Jack will be completely one-sided, with him being made an example of, Bellamy style. No real basis for this and of course very doubtful, but hey, just thought I'd put it out there. :ninja:
I was thinking the same thing too. Maybe Jack will be treated as a one-for-the-road villain and be destroyed with relative ease to showcase the SH's power to the minks. Still, as you said, only a remote possibility.
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@Buggy:
He had to be in a bubble because he wanted to be able to move. He can still breathe under water…His Gills are still open to be able to breathe. DF doesn't affect it.
It depends.. sharks for example need to move in order to breathe, so Decken/Jinbe/Madam Shirley/Arlong/Hody etc. would be screwed.
But you're right, I though he said that fishmen with a DF can swim. -
I sometimes see Jack cutting the Elephant's head off but that would be too much
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If the mink's trump card is them getting a power boast during a full moon, I would say there's quite a weak and impractical trump card…
They only get a boast during the night and it has to be a clear night with the full moon visible. The full moon was also just recent...The wano arc will probably be settled within a month in one piece time...Most fights also take place in the day...As such, I don't think their trump card has anything to do with the full moon...
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i want to see zorro slash/cut the ships of jack XD
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Attacking from a distance is Usopp's forte.
This is a perfect opportunity for Usopp to use his sniping skills on Jack's armada.
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If we learned anything from Jack so far it's that he likes chopping off limbs. Oda has been on a huge limb losing streak, I'm going with Jack takes a leg. I'll be some what disappointed they try to take down Zuniesha with gas…
It wouldn't make sense to use gas in an open sea. Not on a creature as big as Zunisha. It could just get blown away before it can affect him.
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As for Jack vs Zoro(and maybe also Law) I think it would be interesting if Zoro would get blasted away by Jack during their fight so somebody else needs to finish off Jack.
So when we will be going to Wano, Zoro has something to more to prove, "remove small stain" on his almost perfect New World score till now.A bit like Sanji has with his thinner leg bone getting cracked by Vergo. I am very interested in seeing Sanji going all out during next arc. I loved what Oda has kept for Luffy till last part of Luffy vs Doflamingo and I hope I will love whatever Oda has up in store for Sanjis timeskip killer power up/ some great attack.
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It wouldn't make sense to use gas in an open sea. Not on a creature as big as Zunisha. It could just get blown away before it can affect him.
The trunk would be a nice place to plant the gas bomb:ninja:. They could make him eat it like the smile candy. It would be hard to draw Jack taking down Zunisha without massive amounts of blood via delimbing. I guess surrounding Zou and unleashing a barrage of cannon fire is in store.
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The trunk would be a nice place to plant the gas bomb:ninja:. They could make him eat it like the smile candy. It would be hard to draw Jack taking down Zunisha without massive amounts of blood via delimbing. I guess surrounding Zou and unleashing a barrage of cannon fire is in store.
Yeah, as big as he is, he can probably take only so much cannon fire to his legs. Especially if Kaido pirates have some super potent cannonballs.
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why not give the elephant a smile fruit & let him sink loll
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Attacking from a distance is Usopp's forte.
This is a perfect opportunity for Usopp to use his sniping skills on Jack's armada.
Franky shooting lasers from the top is good too.Can you even see anything from the top of Zou?
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Jack may try to poison Zunisha and Zou again but just gas from the start. More emphasis on Zunisha since Jack said to kill the elephant.
But how will they be able to gas them? Cannons or bazookas or gas bomb(s)
Do they just shoot/launch their assault full of poison gas from their ships aimed at Zunisha's head? Sounds like a Jack like move to me. Why waste manpower or endanger themselves? That would be an unnecessary risk.
How much gas would it take? A small island amount.
Do they have enough? Probably yes. If they had enough to poison a big part of Zou, they more than likely have enough to gas Zunisha's head or I doubt Jack would be so confident. I'm sure they had backup reserves.
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Please! No poison! I don't want to see Jack in this awful scaphandre again.
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With all the weapon development and trade and factories that were mentioned and seen, it would be silly if it all came down to gas. The pirates should at least have weapons that can produce louder KABOOMS. Marines are building generation 2 cyborgs with lord knows what kind of weapons and capabilities. If all pirates can muster is more of stuff even Don Krieg could obtain, I'm not too optimistic regarding their chances in the upcoming war.