If Zoro goes with Luffy it will unite the monster trio once more and with the possibility of Jinbei being there it will be strawhat monster quadruple wrecking the party 
Chapter 815: Take Me With You!
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I know Oda wouldn't do something like that, but I swear, if this turns into a multiple chapter long misunderstanding filled battle fest wth the minks, tables will be flipped. There is no need to put such filler into the current story.
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Mihawk did it way back I think it's possible if you're a good navigator, also Rayleigh swam through the Calm Belt.
Dude he specifically said Franky and Brooke. Those two aren't navigating anything without Nami. Besides, Mihawk and Rayleigh are gods so comparing them with the strawhats this early on is a little too premature. Maybe end of series versions of said strawhats could pull it off.
Year of Sanji, let's go!
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Dude he specifically said Franky and Brooke. Those two aren't navigating anything without Nami. Besides, Mihawk and Rayleigh are gods so comparing them with the strawhats this early on is a little too premature. Maybe end of series versions of said strawhats could pull it off.
Oh I didn't read that part thought he was referring to the straw hats in general if that's the case I agree, with your original post.
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Luffy about to go all Wedding Crashers here, me likey. (yay Vivi cover page)
But I thought Oda kinda speeded through stuff in the second half of the chapter.
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I was wondering who that was in the newspaper that Carue was cutting out, turned the image upside down and of course it's Luffy…the cover page made me feel regretful that Vivi and her pet didn't join the crew. One of the best cover pages in a long time, plus with the title being "take me with you!" it didn't help matters...
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Okay, how the hell Carue is using scissors?
@The:Either Oda didn't think about that aspect when writing Sanji's character, or this was something Oda decided to do suddenly with Sanji and that means there's bound to be contradictions somewhere. In certain ways I feel Oda decided to make Sanji's background later on, as while there are things to be considered "clues", there was nothing going on for a long time to really suggest anything mysterious about his background. Only other really crazy speculation is that by becoming famous on his own, he could separate himself from the Vinsmoke name by being his own person.
What about the random North Blue comment back in Jaya?
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The plan of Luffy is bad and Sanji would not want to go with him anyway.
Big mom would send the nice cut heads of Sanji's friends to him if he leaves. Wasn't Luffy hearing what Pekoms said?The only way it would be to take law and his crew, the full SH crew and go to beat up big mom. Now or never.
They are even likely to be safe on Big mom's land, since maybe Kaidou won't go on his fellow yonkou land.My guess is that after the samurais deal, law will tell luffy that they have to go together and target big mom. And somehow let Kaidou pirates know that they left Zou so they don't attack zou again…
Maybe, a battle between 2 yonkous... was not that unlikely guess, huh. -
Haven't read a lot of topics lately, so: did someone already think of th Boston Tea Party? It'll be th event everyone will declare to be free from BM as Luffy beats her. That was always the way Luffy made alliances: free them from the enemy, gaining their up-to-death connection to him, without making them his underlings but to let them be living freely… It'll be his second second yonkou-crew as backup after WB's... I bet we'll see them back in action when Luffy will be fighting BM. Yet, his crew is not able to handle a yonkou. That is why Luffy wants to go alone. He already had the instict to realise, if his crew was not able to handle the opponent.
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What are the chances that Luffy's plan of sneaking in is one of those 'here's the plan, now for something completely different' deals? Idk, I'm just itching for him to do something flashy instead. Maybe ride the entire Zou island to the cake island to crash the Tea Party, claim that as Sanji's captain it's only right for his crew to attend the wedding and that they should be allowed to bring as many guests as they want, and just make Sanji look as bad as they can so Pudding would dislike Sanji and refuse to marry him… Yeah, no, that's too ridiculous even for OP standards.
Anyway, Law brings up a good point about being attacked if they stay on Zou while waiting for Luffy. The easiest solution to me seems to be for the rest of them to leave Zou and go somewhere else while grabbing Kaidou/Jack's attention to announce they're not on Zou (hence he doesn't go back there to give him trouble) but unless they have a backup hideout, they're gonna be tracked down very soon... I wonder if Punk Hazard is actually being left alone now or if the Navy is still poking around.
But then the fact that Jack was sunk by Doflamingo's escorts and Kaidou may have some trouble with Kid's alliance group might give them some time for them to be able to wait it out in Zou. But then this whole samurai and Mink thing is going to explode. It'll depend on what reactions the Minks will have towards the samurais.
@_@ So unpredictable!!! But trying to figure out what happens next like this is pretty fun.
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I spotted Pandaman.
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We'll see her at the Reverie at least
I'm fully expecting half of the kingdoms at the reverie to revolt and Vivi to not say goodbye again. I'm 90% sure she'll actually be joining at that point. I feel like she's been secretly training for this moment. But first Jinbe and Pekoms (that zoan uniqueness goddamnit) need to join:D
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I'm all for Luffy, Brooke, and Carrot crashing a wedding.
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We'll see her at the Reverie at least
So sad…
Yeah i think we will following the reverie from vivi's point of view..
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First I have to say Franky's whale hair is awesome!
And Vivi looks sexy as hell…Chapter itself was pretty good, even though nothing really happened.
I loved the part when Pekoms told Luffy about Sanji's connections with Baratie in East Blue and Kamabakka Kingdom, even the latter supposed to be something that wasn't common knowledge. That is POWER, and it is something that Luffy doesn't have at all! Simply loved it.
Zoro is worried about Sanji! He was a bit of a douche in last chapter, but again this shows that he cares about Sanji.
I don't like the idea of Luffy going to tea party by himself and separate the crew again, but I don't think it's going to happen because of the samurais who entered the kingdom at the end. BTW so much for the responsible adults, all fell asleep
Even Robin, who is always so careful with things. And didn't the Samurais notice those sleeping Straw Hats in front of them?I hope next chapter is more action packed and going to introduce new characters involving this arc!
So, no break next week?
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Gosh, Pekoms is so cute lol
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The children plays while Daddy, Mommy and Gramps keep an eye. Anyone else felt that?
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Pekoms doesn't seem to have married in, as his family still lives at Zou. And he's not exactly part of a big organization to warrant the need to marry in.
First one I thought of after hearing that was Capone. If that's true, there's no way he's not a married man.
He's quite a catch too. Not every man owns a castle.
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Good chapter for me except for the 3 "adults" sleeping and being conveniently ignored by the samourais.
I also find a bit weird was able to discover about Sanji past in just a few days but that is not really important.
My guess is that Nami won't want to Luffy to go alone to the tea party so some of the Strawhats will accompany him anyway. And next chapter we shall know a bit more about the samourais FINALLY -
I wonder if they will make a deal for the heart pirates and samurais to stay on Zou to protect the minks while SHs all go to Big mom.
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This was not a good chapter.
I mean, it's Oda standard so that is always enjoyable, but this was just all over the place. We kept jumping from plot to plot to plot and not in the good way. There was no direction, no focus until right around the end. It felt like Oda was trying to wrap up points when he realized he was going deep into the Sanji thing.
I am sure it will make sense when reading back to back once the arc is done, but for your weekly dose of One Piece, this chapter was just a mess.
I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.
You won this week Fairy Tail.
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Not a single punch thrown. Well in a combative way anyway. I love chapters like this. Lots to discuss and really funny!
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Super fun chapter! Especially loved Franky's new hair style and Carrot reactions!
The idea of another split up sounds interesting, but I'm not quite sure how I feel about it. I do hope they make way to Big Mom though so Luffy can see Jinbe again(who currently has a poneglyph… hmmm, that makes Robin seem like a shoe-in for the travel team).
Big Mom is sounding like "Queen of Hearts meets mafia don" to me with the "off with your head!" shit. I can definitely imagine a future gag scene where Brook gets decapitated only to have him reattach like on Fishman Island.
@Helter:
Is it just me or does it seem like Kanjuro's tiger will turn back into a painting right on top of the sleeping trio? Guess that'll make them wake up with doodles all over them, Jigglypuff style.
This needs to happen.
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Good chapter for me except for the 3 "adults" sleeping and being conveniently ignored by the samourais.
I also find a bit weird was able to discover about Sanji past in just a few days but that is not really important.
My guess is that Nami won't want to Luffy to go alone to the tea party so some of the Strawhats will accompany him anyway. And next chapter we shall know a bit more about the samourais FINALLYYeah, that part was a little clunky.
Reminds me of a friend of mine. We got drunk one summer during a celebration in a town, quite a few years ago, and 3 of us remained. We were so tired that we decided to rest on a pebble beach that was like half a kilometer from our homes. It was really early in the morning. So anyway, the friend in question woke up and, instead of waking the 2 of us up, went home. Said he didn't want to disturb our sleep. Logic, lol.
Anyway, would have been sold if the tiger had to take a different route because of strong winds or something.
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Btw did Chopper say that Catviper needs blood transfusion? If yes, guess what samurais and Dogstorm could give him blood transfusion and make peace.
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@Gia:
I'm fully expecting half of the kingdoms at the reverie to revolt and Vivi to not say goodbye again. I'm 90% sure she'll actually be joining at that point. I feel like she's been secretly training for this moment. But first Jinbe and Pekoms (that zoan uniqueness goddamnit) need to join:D
I can see a way for Vivi to join the Straw hats and at the same time gain a horrible horrible past on par with your average Straw Hat:
At the Revery the WG finds out that the kingdom of alabasta not only hides and secures a poneglyph (especially the one detailing the location of Pluton), but at the same time is allied with the Straw Hat Pirates.WG abandons the Kingdom of Alabasta and uses the national treasure of Mariejois (Uranos) and destroys the entire island
! (but via a miracle the Revolutionary Army saves everyone and they all go into hiding until the final arc where there is a happy ending Oda-style). Vivi, devastated and completely alone, barely capable escaping the revery finds the Strawhats on their way out and joins the Strawhats permanently as the Princess turned Revolutionary of the Straw hats Princess Leiah style. And because she trained the past 2 years with Carue she is as strong as all the others.
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@uniaka:
Btw did Chopper say that Catviper needs blood transfusion? If yes, guess what samurais and Dogstorm could give him blood transfusion and make peace.
I like that. Even if we did have it couple of arcs ago.
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Whether Luffy ruins the wedding overtly as planned or just steals the groom, I don't see how that would realistically keep Sanji's old friends any safer.
Anyway, if he's taking down emperors, I say, first come, first serve! He just can't do that alone.Well as long as he shows up, his friends should be fine. They mentioned sanji might be in trouble if he goes and refuses.
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
H x H Chimera Ant Arc / OP Manga Spoiler
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Will the question from Kinemon to Ete_Dono about where is Raizou, andFranky's word about Samurais bring back the nightmare memories to Mink people, same as what Jack have done before?
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Were the Heart Pirates romanized as "Pirates of Heart" in the Japanese version or was that a Mangstream thing?
I like that Robin also fell asleep in the end. A lot of the time only the guys get silly gags like that. Robin's actually been really funny on Zou.
@uniaka:Btw did Chopper say that Catviper needs blood transfusion? If yes, guess what samurais and Dogstorm could give him blood transfusion and make peace.
It was just a gag. He got the transfusion a few pages later and goes on to party with everyone.
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This was not a good chapter.
I mean, it's Oda standard so that is always enjoyable, but this was just all over the place. We kept jumping from plot to plot to plot and not in the good way. There was no direction, no focus until right around the end. It felt like Oda was trying to wrap up points when he realized he was going deep into the Sanji thing.
I am sure it will make sense when reading back to back once the arc is done, but for your weekly dose of One Piece, this chapter was just a mess.
The lack of focus is exactly the point though. The whole drama is based on the Straw hats having to deal with different people.
Nothing was really wrapped up.
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@Long:
Well as long as he shows up, his friends should be fine. They mentioned sanji might be in trouble if he goes and refuses.
I can't imagine her being happier with the wedding getting crashed and losing the groom than simply the groom not showing, or why she'd hold back, realistically speaking anyway.
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I can see a way for Vivi to join the Straw hats and at the same time gain a horrible horrible past on par with your average Straw Hat:
At the Revery the WG finds out that the kingdom of alabasta not only hides and secures a poneglyph (especially the one detailing the location of Pluton), but at the same time is allied with the Straw Hat Pirates.WG abandons the Kingdom of Alabasta and uses the national treasure of Mariejois (Uranos) and destroys the entire island
! (but via a miracle the Revolutionary Army saves everyone and they all go into hiding until the final arc where there is a happy ending Oda-style). Vivi, devastated and completely alone, barely capable escaping the revery finds the Strawhats on their way out and joins the Strawhats permanently as the Princess turned Revolutionary of the Straw hats Princess Leiah style. And because she trained the past 2 years with Carue she is as strong as all the others.
That would be crazy but I don't think Oda would go that far, but that would be amazing. So far I can see her, Jinbe, Raizou (come on he's a ninja), pekoms?, and potentially another crew member joining at this point
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Were the Heart Pirates romanized as "Pirates of Heart" in the Japanese version or was that a Mangstream thing?
That's in the raw. The translated part by MS is the small "Pirates of Heart" over it, but the background text is english.
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I can't imagine her being happier with the wedding getting crashed and losing the groom than simply the groom not showing, or why she'd hold back, realistically speaking anyway.
but luffy's "plan" is to sneak in..theoretically she shouldn't be able to understand who or what took sanji away
of coruse we are talking about luffy,and we know he couldn't be stealthy if his life depends on it…but that is the plan. -
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but luffy's "plan" is to sneak in..theoretically she shouldn't be able to understand who or what took sanji away
of coruse we are talking about luffy,and we know he couldn't be stealthy if his life depends on it…but that is the plan.Luffy said his intention is to "ruin the ceremony". I don't know how but simply sneaking away with Sanji woud not be a good idea because that would cause Sanji's friends to lose their heads. Hell, Sanji probably could even sneak away without Luffy's help if he wanted to.
And I think his conversation with Law moments later may have changed his mind on going after Sanji. At least he stoped to think about it.
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but luffy's "plan" is to sneak in..theoretically she shouldn't be able to understand who or what took sanji away
of coruse we are talking about luffy,and we know he couldn't be stealthy if his life depends on it…but that is the plan.Let's say Luffy would manage to sneak in and get Sanji and escape alive from the middle of a full yonkous crew and allies.
The point is, Big mom would still want Sanji and if he doesn't return back, Sanji will get some nice heads for his colection with names like Zeff or ivankov on them…
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I wonder how the minks will react to the Samurai, presumably negatively; but will they hate the straw hats outright? Im not so sure.
Though I think it's a tad strange how the monkey that spend literally days with the Samurai climbing up the elephant didn't find out about their situation. Like…did it just not come up? The day that your country is absolutely DESTROYED by Jack LOOKING for a Samurai, and you don't think to question when you come across two other samurai trying to get to Zou.
It seems a little contrived that he found out at the top. When he had days before where they both could straightend everything out.
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I wonder how the minks will react to the Samurai, presumably negatively; but will they hate the straw hats outright? Im not so sure.
Though I think it's a tad strange how the monkey that spend literally days with the Samurai climbing up the elephant didn't find out about their situation. Like…did it just not come up? The day that your country is absolutely DESTROYED by Jack LOOKING for a Samurai, and you don't think to question when you come across two other samurai trying to get to Zou.
It seems a little contrived that he found out at the top. When he had days before where they both could straightend everything out.
They spent just one night together, wasn't it? And I think he already knew they were Samurais. But what was he supposed to do down there? He had to wait until they reached the top to run for help.
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I'm not keen on Luffy splintering off YET AGAIN. Hopefully whatever happens next chapter either forces the rest of the crew to come along, or forces Luffy to stay put.
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If Luffy is on a stealth mission it would be insane not to go with Brook and Robin. Luffy, use your brain!
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@uniaka:
Let's say Luffy would manage to sneak in and get Sanji and escape alive from the middle of a full yonkous crew and allies.
The point is, Big mom would still want Sanji and if he doesn't return back, Sanji will get some nice heads for his colection with names like Zeff or ivankov on them…
true..but luffy is not the guy to think that far ahead…his main objective is just to get to talk with sanji and unerstand what he wants to do..everything else come later i suppose.
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At least Nekomamushi and the rest of the more feral part of Zou will be asleep.
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I wonder how the minks will react to the Samurai, presumably negatively; but will they hate the straw hats outright? Im not so sure.
The day dwellers will probably be more reasonable and try to understand.
Nekomamushi with his whole shtick of killing any Samurai who set foot on Zou…not so much.
Though I think it's a tad strange how the monkey that spend literally days with the Samurai climbing up the elephant didn't find out about their situation.
You remember how secretive these guys are about their intentions right?
I doubt they gave any details at all about the situation that led them to come to Zou.
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@uniaka:
Let's say Luffy would manage to sneak in and get Sanji and escape alive from the middle of a full yonkous crew and allies.
The point is, Big mom would still want Sanji and if he doesn't return back, Sanji will get some nice heads for his colection with names like Zeff or ivankov on them…
I like it when someone finally gets the point, lol
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@uniaka:
Let's say Luffy would manage to sneak in and get Sanji and escape alive from the middle of a full yonkous crew and allies.
The point is, Big mom would still want Sanji and if he doesn't return back, Sanji will get some nice heads for his colection with names like Zeff or ivankov on them…
I like it when someone finally gets the point, lol
Actually, Luffy could theoretically "capture" Sanji while wearing some sort of disguise, thus, the blame would shift from Sanji to an "unindentified person".
Alternatively, forge Sanji's death. There's plenty of things that could be done.
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Raizou better play a big part in this arc or next. Because I'm losing interest in the samurais already
