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    • Nekketsu
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      Well he could've attempted to block it or something similar. But it was a limited space and he was injured, so it's alright I guess.

      Block the trunk of a colossal elephant the size of a friggin mountain while still injured from a previous battle? Absolutely not.

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        Well this appears to be currently the shortest New World arc. It's a pity Jack did not go up the elephant to fight the Straw Hat Pirates and dId not get to know the elephant's background and the full moon thing. Plus there were no hostile Minks to deal with. Well looking forward to the next chapter anyway

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          Jack will be back, you'll see

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            Jack will be back, you'll see

            Yeah whenever we got to the Kaidou arc he will most likelly be there.

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              What a chapter ! And a magnificent color page ! But about Kid being behind bars, sorry but could you tell where exactly ? I can't see sh** !

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                @Nekketsu:

                Block the trunk of a colossal elephant the size of a friggin mountain while still injured from a previous battle? Absolutely not.

                Well I wrote attempt not actually do it. And after Zoro vs Pica, power displays of that kind shouldn't be too out of the question.

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                  Yeah it is, but that freaking elephant is also impressive.

                  Plus Jack and his crew in the middle of the ocean aboard ships and with no way of getting away in time, let alone block a massive trunk going at mach speed. Jack may have the highest bounty so far, but realistically speaking by One Piece standards, few individuals could perform such a feat.

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                    I don't think the Kidd alliance is under Kudo, but that perhaps Apoo was an inside-man for Kudo the whole time and is pretending to be part of the alliance in order to bring it down from the inside~

                    Also this chapter~ I know one person who is going to be very, very happy with the contents. ^.^ (A mutual friend of mine who loves the Minks and was quite distraught at the idea of them getting beaten on again.)

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                      @GetsugaZoro:

                      So you aren't going to enjoy anything post timeskip right?

                      Yes yes, I am negative, therefore I hate everything and can be confidently ignored, I know how this song goes.

                      But regardless, The first half of Punk Hazard was pretty great, as well as the initial Straw Hat reunion and descent to Fishman Island. Parts of Dressrosas million plot-elements were enjoyable.

                      There. I hope that helps?

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                        useless banner, but I liked it lol

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                          @Joy:

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                          Damn, I didn't peep that, that changes it all. Kid and Killer definetly didn't agree to being Kaido's underling so he gave them a whooping like the little nerds they are and Apoo joined arms with Kaido. Hawkins could go either way.

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                            Lol if Jack still survived that.
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                            Probably? Its 100% Apoo same laugh and same braces on his mouth also it explains how Kaido found the island.

                            Yeah I don't even know why I wrote probably. XD
                            Pretty obvious

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                              Kaidou is known as "the strongest creature". But what about Zounisha ?

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                                Well I wrote attempt not actually do it. And after Zoro vs Pica, power displays of that kind shouldn't be too out of the question.

                                I get you, but I'm also fairly sure the elephant is much bigger than that. Zoro also has got to his advantage that demonic cursed sword that can cut everything.

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                                  Poor Jack. There is a lesson to be learned here for him and it goes:"Stay the fuck away from sea battles!"

                                  Somewhat anticlimatic, but if the story can move forward to Sanji I can't really mind. Still, the chances of Luffy dropping Jack suddenly drastically reduced. Not because I think Jack is finished.

                                  Guess it was too much to expect that KHA alliance would survive Kaido dropping in on their meeting. So, Apoo joined, Kid refused and got beaten. Suppose his crew is in no better shape. So I guess Hawkins is "the one that got away"?

                                  That's 1 and maybe 2 more possible allies for the fight with Kaido.

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                                  Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                  It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                    I'm in absolute bouts of internal laughter at how salty people are about how slain Jack just got.

                                    Get rekt fuckboy Jack

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                                      I get you, but I'm also fairly sure the elephant is much bigger than that. Zoro also has got to his advantage that demonic cursed sword that can cut absolutely everything.

                                      True, I also agree with the limited space. Just a minor personal preference I guess, could be argued either way.

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                                        Hadn't been a fan of recent one piece art, but that colour spread and page spread of Zou demolishing Jack was EPIC.

                                        ↑Biological Weaopn of Doom and Destruction

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                                          well maybe it's just me, but I still can't see that as Kidd.

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                                            wtf was that Apoo?! Traitor!!

                                            Also…..Jack....... REKT Haha all the fanboyism and hype for a character we hadnt even seen fight but only heard of his failures. Such a joy.

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                                              how are people saying that jack's demise was anticlimactic. I think it was the most epic thing since Shirahoshi's revelation as Poseidon.

                                              Sorry, but I rather have this than 20+ chapter fights with asspull power ups

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                                                I think having a prolonged fight with Jack at this point would serve no purpose other than deliver some delicious "luffypunch" panels.
                                                I think what transpired here seems pretty logical, even though yeah, it's kinda anticlimactic, but if the elephant went down without even so much as an attempt to defend itself, it would suck IMO. So I for one am pretty satisfied with how this turned out.

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                                                  wtf was that Apoo?! Traitor!!

                                                  Also…..Jack....... REKT Haha all the fanboyism and hype for a character we hadnt even seen fight but only heard of his failures. Such a joy.

                                                  If I had a literal seal of approval I'd cover this in it.
                                                  And by literal seal I do not mean seals as in. Yknow. Water's dogs.

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                                                    Well at least this chapter will turn into a nice anime episode…
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                                                    of 85 episodes.

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                                                      jack,you dun goofed

                                                      told ya guys that jack was not going to kill zunisha

                                                      also,fitting end for a fool that never listen to reasoning and just attacked whoever he wanted

                                                      only problem is..how can oda now write in the story a weaponized zunisha?
                                                      if all it needs is an order,can't you just bring it to wano and let everyone surrender just at the sight of that colossus ready to strike?

                                                      also..seems that apoo joined kaidou…i hope that not all of the kid-hawkins-apoo alliance decided to serve,because i always thought that kid had way too much pride for that

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                                                        That Color Spread, man, so great.

                                                        And even if it seems that way now, I don't assume it's the last we see of Jack. The way Oda presented Ginrummy she at least will play some minor role still and it would be weird for her and Jack to actually die here.

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                                                          I dont know if someone mentioned this, but do you think that Appoo was working under kaido already when he went to see Kid for the meeting just to capture him?

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                                                            So either Kid, Killer and Hawkins got their asses kicked by Kaido and Apoo didn't want to get hurt by him so he agreed to work for Kaido or Apoo was working for Kaido this whole time and betrayed Kid's alliance once he showed up. Really interested to see where it goes next week. So it seems like it IS a new saga with the first arc probably being Whole Cake Island because I doubt that they'd be fighting all 4 emperors in one arc.
                                                            Also, get rekt Jack

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                                                              Jack has really taken L after L.

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                                                                Now that someone did that Kidd comparison thing I actually see it, but I think Oda was really sloppy with the artwork. But I guess that could be intentional since he doesn't want it too obvious and only those with a keen eye who analyse it know.

                                                                I for one am glad this arc isn't like most arcs with a villain controlling a place and needing to be taken down. It's good when One Piece does do that because that's mostly what One Piece is, but when it deviates from the norm it's even better. Oda adequately explored Zou and had a little bit of an adventure on it. Why criticize it for what it's not? Not every arc should be the same. It just seems silly to me…

                                                                Sometimes it's bad being part of a fandom because people like Greg theorize and the theories end up being correct and it ruins things. And Momo being like Oden and he and Luffy having the VOAT furthers the concern that Luffy's adventure is too much of an exact copy of Roger's.

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                                                                  Zunisha ❤
                                                                  I wish we knew its whole story.

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                                                                    @Murcielago:

                                                                    Kaidou is known as "the strongest creature". But what about Zounisha ?

                                                                    Kaido is the strongest creature with a bounty Blackbeard was strong as well but he had no bounty.

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                                                                      Luffy is leaving… Jack for sure isn't gone and it is even mentioned that they need to learn how he is able to navigate to Zou

                                                                      As soon as Luffy will leave Jack will return and try to take revenge. Zoro/Law/Minks will fight him

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                                                                        @Kishido:

                                                                        Luffy is leaving… Jack for sure isn't gone and it is even mentioned that they need to learn how he is able to navigate to Zou

                                                                        As soon as Luffy will leave Jack will return and try to take revenge. Zoro/Law/Minks will fight him

                                                                        I know this can likely be taken into consideration as foreshadowing, but it could also just mean 'if he managed to get here then how can we know for sure someone else won't show up?'

                                                                        Also fearful for Apoo. Better not get himself killed. He's right up top next to Law as one of my favourite charcters and y'all know how I feel about Law.

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                                                                          A member of kidd aliance is a mink, that black cat, he gave kaido secret how to found way to zou

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                                                                            So after a villain finally appears in the arc, he gets anticlimatically defeated in an instant. And having ignored the potential for fun an adventure in an unique setting in favor of extensive exposition and setup, we're ready to leave.

                                                                            Business as usual in Toriko.

                                                                            Wait what

                                                                            This is needed, unless you want the crew to have fun and adventure in unique setting till the end of time. The story is in its resolving stage ; even the cover says it. It is natural that Oda spends time to give us answers.
                                                                            Jack was an idiot. Him being oneshotted because of is stupidity is extremely satisfying.

                                                                            And yeah great cover, I was starting to get tired of One Piece color pages but the last two were really cool.

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                                                                              Oh wow. That was so out of nowhere and awesome. Also Apoo works for Kaidou? So that's two of the supernova and if kidd, killer and hawkins have been captured that puts them all in the next arc. With capone working for Big Mom there is only Urogue and Bonney not in this upcoming arc. If Bonney is one of Big Mom's kids she could enter which would only leave uroge

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                                                                                I know this can likely be taken into consideration as foreshadowing, but it could also just mean 'if he managed to get here then how can we know for sure someone else won't show up?'

                                                                                Also fearful for Apoo. Better not get himself killed. He's right up top next to Law as one of my favourite charcters and y'all know how I feel about Law.

                                                                                Naah I think there will be a reason for Jack to be able to navigate to Zou with ease… So I expect him to return. I'm against it... But a a Zoro vs Jack could happen now even if i think that instead it will be all vs Jack with his crew more or less gone

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                                                                                  Jack is defeated same way Kyros cut the head of Doflamingo?:ninja: Aldo in Jack's case, he can't make clones of himself( unless he is a ninja).:ninja:

                                                                                  Kaidou the strongest creature vs Zunisha the biggest creature will fight for the '' strongest creature'' title.

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                                                                                    It depends on where Oda is going with the weapons how much sense people with specific powers would be though. Also, Momo being able to order Zunisha (whereas Luffy and others can't) means that Zunisha serves him in the same way. Plus Momo's the only one she can hear, not the only one who can hear her. There's something special about that, and it's been seen before through Shirahosi.

                                                                                    wait,momo wasn't sepcifically able to ORDER zunisha,he was the only one able to communicate with it..being able to give him orders comes from the conditions of its penalty..being able to do anything,even defend itself,only under direct order

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                                                                                      If Apoo was working for Kaidou this whole time, then what's the point in capturing Kidd ? Is he supposed to give something to Kaidou ?

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                                                                                        This is why you don't eat a devil fruit.

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                                                                                          That color page is pretty lovely. Are Momo, Carrot, and Pedro coming along or is that just an alliance color spread? Find out next week on an all new DBZ!!!
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                                                                                          Luffy is leaving… Jack for sure isn't gone and it is even mentioned that they need to learn how he is able to navigate to Zou

                                                                                          As soon as Luffy will leave Jack will return and try to take revenge. Zoro/Law/Minks will fight him

                                                                                          Or screw that. Go to Whole Cake Island and see them for the year. 👅

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                                                                                            Absolutely love the colour page.

                                                                                            While tad bit anticlimactic, Jack getting bitch slapped by Zunisha is GOLD. Can't stop laughing at awesome it was. Fighting a gigantic elephant isn't a smart idea.lol
                                                                                            Jack will definitely be back. But for now, let just focus on the Sanji's plotline.

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                                                                                            So we're going down this rabbit hole again.

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                                                                                              Well he could've attempted to block it or something similar. But it was a limited space and he was injured, so it's alright I guess.

                                                                                              you forgot him being against a creature who has AN ENTIRE NATION ON ITS BACK

                                                                                              sometimes i think people have not really grasped how big zunisha is…that's why the idea that jack would actually kill zunisha with everyone still on its back was preposterous

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                                                                                                you're contradicting yourself right there

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                                                                                                  @Daz:

                                                                                                  Yes yes, I am negative, therefore I hate everything and can be confidently ignored, I know how this song goes.

                                                                                                  But regardless, The first half of Punk Hazard was pretty great, as well as the initial Straw Hat reunion and descent to Fishman Island. Parts of Dressrosas million plot-elements were enjoyable.

                                                                                                  There. I hope that helps?

                                                                                                  It's not that, I've been here for years, I always liked your posts(not saying I don't now), but post time skip(and a few other old posters) it's like you don't like anything, just comes off as Time skip syndrome.

                                                                                                  Even when chapters are awesome(and I'm not saying this one was or not) and almost everyone is happy about them, you find out a way to nit pick/complain, you are entitled to that and as I said you respect your opinions, it's just comes off that you are trying really hard to find something that annoys you every week.

                                                                                                  Again not trying to offend you, but it's just the vibe I get from you since the time skip, I've just been wanting to ask this for a while and I guess this week I did it.

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                                                                                                    I think I'm blind because I can't see Kid in that rubble behind bars.

                                                                                                    Also lol to the Toriko comparison. Complete with a massive animal doing the ass-whooping!

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                                                                                                      only problem is..how can oda now write in the story a weaponized zunisha?
                                                                                                      if all it needs is an order,can't you just bring it to zhou and let everyone surrender just at the sight of that colossus ready to strike?

                                                                                                      Yes but can he really attack outside of self-defense ? While nobody forgive him for his sin, I don't think it is possible to use him as a weapon.

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                                                                                                        @Murcielago:

                                                                                                        If Apoo was working for Kaidou this whole time, then what's the point in capturing Kidd ? Is he supposed to give something to Kaidou ?

                                                                                                        He could have an alliance with Kaidou without Kidd knowing, or he can be working with him now, I can totally see Apoo being smart and ask to work for Kaidou, but Kidd wouldn't dot that so he probably attacked him and got his ass kicked(if it is him in the prison).

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