The chapter le great but you know I can't totally like it.
Chapter 812: Capone "Gang" Bege
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In case people haven't realized it yet, it's 35th daughter, not third daughter. MS got it wrong the first time.
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This is the theories I came across I really disagree with it but I'll just give you the jest of it.
I.) Sanji has made references to being royalty before such as : Mr.Prince (Alabasta arc to crocodile), They way he treats women <– Some peoples views, Zoro's reference in the Groggy Ring arc ("Prince of Dumbass Kingdom ")
II.)First Bounty was a Sketched drawing which some believe to hide his face from the world( Which isn't true since the photographer left the cap on)
III.) Now his ' Only Alive ' Bounty is also adding fuel to the theory
IV.) Also Sanji not talking too much about his past only when Norland came up he mentioned he is from North Blue
V.) And lastly his rare blood typeI'm sure there's more but this was everything I found on the web.
All of which prove conclusively that Sanji is a space alien.
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Mangastream's chapter is out and has been added to the first post.
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I don't understand why people are mad about the Nami/Chopper issue. They went to where Sanji was out of curiosity, and since intially there were only two enemies, it's not illogical for them to be caught off-guard once the boys were unleashed. On top of that, it's confirmed that Bege can use CoO and that he can materialise inside his own body, so he could have warned his crew about their location before they got out.
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@Devil:
So it's actually Big Mom's third daughter, Mangapanda please.
No, it's 35th. MS got it wrong.
MS isn't always perfect.
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Chapter came out 3 hours ago and so many messages have been posted already !
I have to admit that I was scared when spoilers came out. I was like "Seriously ? Another Sanji-gag ?".Capone was great in this chapter. I didn't like what he did, but 'gotta admit, he acted very brightly, taking advantage of the situation like a real pro. These are what New World pirates are supposed to be.
His devil fruit is explained, and he really looks more powerful than what we saw back in Sabaody.
I hope this Supernova will be a strategy-based one, with a refreshing fighting-style.I want to see more from Pekoms now… Kind of sad what happened to him. But still a cool character.
So the chapter was great, got me hyped (though I don't really need much to get hyped).
I've got nothing specific to say, except for the fact that CC wasn't that much of a dick (for once).
Fast-forward to the last page ;- 35th daughter of the Charlotte family ? wtf (that's quite a lot...) ? Would Big Mom be... the mother ? Thus her name, "Big Mom" ?
What are your predictions of who "Pudding" would be ? Lola ? The three-eyed girl ? Someone else entirely ? I'm hoping she'll be quite good-looking. -Sanji has 2 other brothers_. Are they still alive ? Are they characters that we may actually know ? What relations does he have with them ?_ All I want is them to be half as cool as Sanji at very least, not spoiled brats like nobles usually are. Vin (= wine) + smoke. Wonder what kind of family our fellow cook has, but if BM want's to marry him [or make one of her siblings / sisters marry him], it must be a prestigious one. Did Sanji's family agree to ? And does this explain the "Only Alive" bounty ? Damn, so many questions. I'm really looking forward for next week's chapter. (special mentions to Alpha2Late's youtube channel and his Sanji theories
links : )
- 35th daughter of the Charlotte family ? wtf (that's quite a lot...) ? Would Big Mom be... the mother ? Thus her name, "Big Mom" ?
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Why do people assume that Pudding was Big Mom's 35th daughter? Mangapanda, Mangastream AND sandman's short summary state she's the 35th daughter of the Charlotte family, not Charlotte Linlin's personally.
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The chapter le great but you know I can't totally like it.
Don't worry, Pekoms will be avenged.
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Why do people assume that Pudding was Big Mom's 35th daughter? Mangapanda, Mangastream AND sandman's short summary state she's the 35th daughter of the Charlotte family, not Charlotte Linlin's personally.
I just find it more logic that way.
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@.access:
Ichiji and Niji, obviously
I'm less interested in their names and more ready to see people start arting them in anticipation! :happy: Although I am very interested to see whatever kind of dynamic they and any others in or around the Vinsmoke family have. Heaven help Sanji if it's anything like James and Jessabelle of the Pokemon community:
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I'm in love with Pekoms character! I hope he joins the strawhats it would be awesomeee. Maybe he could join just like Franky did in water 7 :)
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teah,but being able to survive 2 or 3 gunshots doesn't mean you can shrug off dozens of them..hell,even in reality,with adrenaline going on you can actually shrug off several gunshots wounds..but it doesn't mena that taken enough you are not going down
pekoms didn't got sho once or twice..capone had an entire firing squad inside him remember?for the starwhats,they are not yet that strong anyway,especially nami or chopper that had a really low number of victories after their "training"
..so,no,they are not suddenly gonna be able to shrug off bullets and fight their way against 20 men of undiscolsed strenghtAnd not just rifles but some of them even had gatling guns, 25-30 bullets would leave anyone on the verge of death
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Also did Oda make Pekoms taller?
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All of which prove conclusively that Sanji is a space alien.
Answers are solved, Franky will have to turn Sunny into a spaceship.
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Man, will it be Kaidou or Big Mom? I really can't tell.
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@Master:
I'm in love with Pekoms character! I hope he joins the strawhats it would be awesomeee. Maybe he could join just like Franky did in water 7 :)
No.
@Master:Can't wait to see Sanji's badass brothers lol
I think its higly improbable they are badasses.
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I'd definitely bet that Sanji has two brothers named Ichiji and Niji
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I always really like those moments when Sanji switches to become a badass. Admittedly he often gets a severe beating not long after them but you can't deny, the man has got style.
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Man, will it be Kaidou or Big Mom? I really can't tell.
I remember seeing pics of Oda's workspace in the internet, how he did his work and one of the picture showing a compilation of books and the contents in it are story arcs. One of them was Big Mom's because it shows like a cake or a muffin drawn on top of the cover while the other was a dragon.
But seeing how this thing goes, I think Big Mom's story arc will be next….
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So, that Veto guy. He seems capable.
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Already posted this in the spoiler thread - but I'm thinking that the "only alive" wanted poster thing triggered Big Mom's interest in Sanji for a "political" marriage. Most likely for some dimplomatic immunity-esque reasons.
All of which prove conclusively that Sanji is a space alien.
But not just any space alien! He's obviously the living embodiment of Lust and one of the 7 Devils that hail from the Moon and are the progenitors of the Devil Fruits.
I'd definitely bet that Sanji has two brothers named Ichiji and Niji
My thoughts as well - this has to happen! They will probably be shown to treat women horribly and be extremely wasteful with food.
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Do you think everyone in the world of One Piece just took a two year break to put their feet up or hibernate until the Strawhats returned? Each of the Supernovas/Worst Generation has been progressing and making moves, the only ones that you could say are sitting still (and not progressing/getting stronger) are the Yonko but they are at the top. Nearly everyone else is constantly making moves and getting stronger, not just the Strawhat crew.
You can't think that just because they took two years off to train the whole world stood still
No I haven't. But the argument doesn't hold when you take into considering that 2 years ago Luffy would've been destroyed by doflamingo but somehow he's caught up and passed DD in strength. This point of this manga has been highlighted numerous times, the SHs growth is exponential and greater than other crews. If we use your logic, DD should've gotten stronger and stronger, and luffy shouldn't have been able to beat him, since he wouldn't have been able to beat him pre time skip.
The chapter le great but you know I can't totally like it.
haha love the new profile pic.
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It seems MS fixed their mistakes. Unlike MP.
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Is this the reason why Sanji left ? Seriously ? They couldn't defeat one Capone ? I'm disappointed in Sanji's team. Zoro wouldn't let this happen.
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FINALLY this arc gets exciting!! :D
I really hope the straw-hats storm the wedding, that would be fantastic. It's seems really obvious that the bride will be ugly (classic Oda), I hope that isn't the case, a beautiful bride for Sanji would make a better plot.
I don't think the bride will be ugly. Seeing how Big Mom has a total of 35 daughters, I think the rest of them are ugly while Pudding is the least looking normal one and beautiful. She could be 'that 3 eyed girl' for all I knew.
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I've always liked Capone.
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They couldn't defeat one Capone ?
Oh the sweet irony.
Zoro wouldn't let this happen.
Stop with this argument. What would Zoro do ? Cut Capone in half while the rest of the crew is trapped inside his body ?
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Capone's ability could be very scary if he would house other devil fruit users. That way the others could use their abilities from inside and it would look from the outside that Capone has all their abilities.
he's housing caesar, brooke and chopper already
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My thoughts as well - this has to happen! They will probably be shown to treat women horribly and be extremely wasteful with food.
I'm expecting Sanji's brothers to look like this guy:
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I wonder what Big Mom 's response is if she hears that Bege shot (and killed?) Pekoms. Whitebeard is someone who doesn't tolerate this behaviour, and Shanks is also probably not a big fan of this. But I don't know about Big Mom.
On the one hand she seems to be the cruelest of all the Yonko, on the other hand her kids seem to love her.
But what I want to see essentially: Big Mom asking "Where is Pekoms", Bege replies "He wanted to let the Vinsmock son get away, so I killed him", Big Mom stands up and crushes him with a swing of her arm taking him out instantly. I want this to happen, just to show how incredibly powerful she is to just destroy a 300kk worth pirate with one move.Pekoms was willing to fail the mission and knew he would get punished. Capone actually did the "right" thing.
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Stop with this argument. What would Zoro do ? Cut Capone in half while the rest of the crew is trapped inside his body ?
I doubt Zoro would let them capture Nami and Chopper. Besides I'm disappointed not only in Sanji but the whole crew. Some unknown characters managed to capture them. What the hell ? They could have done some kind of counterattack, couldn't they ?
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I don't know why anyone is surprised at Capone's behavior, because remember way back in the Sabaody Archipelago Arc he stabbed one of his crewmates with a fork for questioning his orders.
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I doubt Zoro would let them capture Nami and Chopper. Besides I'm disappointed not only in Sanji but the whole crew. Some unknown characters managed to capture them. What the hell ? They could have done some kind of counterattack, couldn't they ?
Nami and Chopper were caught by surprise. There was nothing Zoro could have done about that. Except if he decided to fight Capone instead of trying to negociate, which would have been a terrible idea.
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I doubt Zoro would let them capture Nami and Chopper. Besides I'm disappointed not only in Sanji but the whole crew. Some unknown characters managed to capture them. What the hell ? They could have done some kind of counterattack, couldn't they ?
It would've resulted in a conflict with the Minks as well. The Straw Hats probably wanted to prevent that since most were injured already. Zoro would've been put in the same situation as Sanji too.
And these "unknown characters" are crewmembers of one of the worst generation. It's silly to say they're not a threat to anybody at all.
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@Master:
I'm in love with Pekoms character! I hope he joins the strawhats it would be awesomeee. Maybe he could join just like Franky did in water 7 :)
Can't wait to see Sanji's badass brothers lolA lot of people are going to say 'Pekoms is the next Straw Hat' after what happens in this chapter. I think Pekoms is now labelled as a 'traitor' and possibly no longer a part of the Big Mom Pirates after being shot by Capone, the latter might informed Big Mom for what he did when returning to the ship. Maybe Pekoms is left for dead in Zou and is now treated by the Minks and laid to rest in recovery at Nekomamushi's place, that is if Capone didn't bring Pekoms back to the ship and left to be punished by Big Mom.
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Strong start for the year. Now it's Nami's turn to save Sanji from marriage.
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Nami and Chopper were caught by surprise. There was nothing Zoro could have done about that. Except if he decided to fight Capone instead of trying to negociate, which would have been a terrible idea.
I mean he wouldn't let Capone to force Nami inside his body.
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Capone, with Urouge is propably one of the weakest Supernovas. I dont think his ability is any problem the next time they meet.
The twist in the story is very interesting. I do hope we see more of Sanji from time to time and do not get a Sanji break of more than a year or so. -
Capone's awakening could be him turning into a giant moving castle.
@dwo:Capone, with Urouge is propably one of the weakest Supernovas. I dont think his ability is any problem the next time they meet.
Nope.
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Taking away the part where he shoots Pekoms (why?!?! Pekoms of all people :sad:), I almost liked Capone this chapter, and he was my least favorite Supernova.
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@dwo:
Capone, with Urouge is propably one of the weakest Supernovas. I dont think his ability is any problem the next time they meet.
There really isn't any basis for this. We haven't seen nearly enough from these guys to judge how strong they are, besides Urouge's fight with the Pacifista on Sabaody and Capone showing off his abilities there.
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I don't know why anyone is surprised at Capone's behavior, because remember way back in the Sabaody Archipelago Arc he stabbed one of his crewmates with a fork for questioning his orders.
Right, wasn't surprised. I am surprised by his deference to big mam. He seems to legit want to be her subordinate (not 100% sure just based on MS's translation of the dialogue). We'll see how much that holds.
I'm just surprised how easy it was for him to take out pekoms.
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I think Capone himself is strong enoguh. Well at least his fruit. It's just my thinking. When he attacks from inside the weapons or anything else become bigger and increases damage. What if the attacks which were went through his barrier becomes smaller ? And the damage would be decreased as well.
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I mean he wouldn't let Capone to force Nami inside his body.
Zoro was captured along with Usopp and Brook in FI, requiring the help of the latter to escape.
"oh no but the water..!!1!"…ok, there was a context to use as an excuse there, like there is one here.
The lamest thing was Chopper and Nami showing up captured, but that was an understandable mistake. -
I mean he wouldn't let Capone to force Nami inside his body.
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4 canons were pointed at Nami and Chopper's heads. Attempting to attack Capone or his men would be way too dangerous.
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What's with Caesar acting all weird donning a disguise and changing his name to Caedar when the sex kitten leopard dressed mink showed up?
Random tidbit: I'm about 2-3 more good scenes away from being into this furry thing. Such great outfit design and all the… licking :ninja:
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I love how Pekoms´ parents (at least I think its them) are a literal mama bear and a papa wolf
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This chapter provee that Lola is Lola Linlin
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I called Sanji being wanted because some girl wanted him as her husband (very likely it's more an arranged marriage at birth thing, from the sounds of it, but hey, it's close!) Woo! Hey, Sanji~ Hope she's cute! (She'll either be hideous OR so bitchy and terrible that she breaks him of his starry-eyed forgiveness of girls OR a really nice girl that just doesn't want to marry him and it's all her parents' doing. We all know Sanji will never get the girl.)
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What's with Caesar acting all weird donning a disguise and changing his name to Caedar when the sex kitten leopard dressed mink showed up?
That looks to be a panda mistake, as Stream has him still call himself Caesar there.
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Capone is a dirt bag. Shot Pekoms in the back with two gatlings…
So this chapter more or less confirms that Mink's can give birth to what every furry mammal right?
Like I mentioned in the spoilers section I think Big Mom has a bit of Newgate complex. I don't think they are all her biological children. All the men call her Mama as well and we know they aren't blood related, Pekom's being the easiest example to pull from.
Monkey D Luffy
Roronoa Zoro
Tony Tony Chopper
Nico Robin
Cuty Flam
Vinsmoke SanjiI like it. I'm wondering if Sanji is more shocked to hear his family's name rather than the actual wedding it's self.
While I'm sure there is some connection to his wanted alive status I can't imagine that the Vinsmoke family has that much government influence to just give the word not to kill Sanji, only bring him in alive.
My guess is that beyond this wedding there is something more that someone wants with him.Hip hip hooray! Sonji's going to Whole Cake! Jinbe and his crew are on Whole Cake! When Big Mom is taken care of Jinbe will join the Straw Hats and leave Whole Cake!