Caesar isn't that bad of a guy, he's just ecstatic because his creation turned out to be a success. Of course he's proud of it, let's not forget he devotes his life to science. :)
A sane person wouldn't be proud of creating a deadly weapon.
Caesar isn't that bad of a guy, he's just ecstatic because his creation turned out to be a success. Of course he's proud of it, let's not forget he devotes his life to science. :)
A sane person wouldn't be proud of creating a deadly weapon.
A sane person wouldn't be proud of creating a deadly weapon.
Everyones a little crazy.
I think being around the SHs, Ceaser can turn around a new leaf…can you imagine if the SHs meet Vegapunk while Ceaser is in their custody? loll It be some funny moments for sure
Try to remember all those colorspreads and all the openings the anime had.
Can anyone see Caesar in any of those as a SH?
Try to remember all those colorspreads and all the openings the anime had.
Can anyone see Caesar in any of those as a SH?
He's already in them, you just can't see the air. Oxygen mode.
@Buggy:
Yea over analyzing everything might take away from the pure awesomeness of the story but if people wanna take that route then go for it.
I don't get how people find OP chapters so boring sometimes…I never find a chapter boring, maybe its just me, because I know that its a small part of this huge story that Oda is creating and its going to be awesome. Every chapter helps the story in some way or form, even if its filler and seem useless.
Not all the chapters are boring, sometimes they are just what I call "Bridge chapters" meant to carry us over to the next big piece of information or event reveal.
Fans pretty much read One Piece two different ways. Weekly and Back to back with the volumes.
Sometimes reading an arc all at once helps make some of those chapters that don't really do much when you read them once that week flow a lot better. There are several chapters in Fishman and Dressrosa that are simply not that good when you look at them as your weekly dose of One Piece, but when you read the entire arc at once, you find they are actually quite good when you can instantly go to what happens next.
For example, the chapter from Fishman Island that reveals all the villains was quite panned by fans when it came out. However when you read the entire arc at once being able to take in the entire story without a week break., it flows naturally and people don't really seem to care and enjoy it far more.
So if you don't like a chapter, try reading it again when the entire arc is done, you may find your opinion differs.
I can see Luffy dong what he did with the Pirates at the end of Dressrosa; you can declare yourselves for me all you want but I'm not going to reciprocate on terms other than my own.
Not that Luffy would ever use such a big word but basically there's no point accepting a Yonkou's territory when he plans to claim all of them.
Except that Luffy hasn't shown any desire to claim islands outside of their own protection. He would have been perfectly happy to leave Fishman Island in Big Mom's hands if she was a good person. Luffy is out to beat and topple the Yonkou on his way to becoming Pirate King, but he doesn't really want the power and territory that goes with it, just the freedom.
Try to remember all those colorspreads and all the openings the anime had.
Can anyone see Caesar in any of those as a SH?
To be honest, I can. I mean, it took some time to get used to Franky and Brook in color spreads imo, and after sitting on Cesear prediction, I can see him if he were to get a better outfit.
Not saying I'm fully on board the prediction, just saying the crew could use a scientist with Vangapunk appearing sooner or later anyway and also the theory about them going to space.
@LUFFY#1:
To be honest, I can. I mean, it took some time to get used to Franky and Brook in color spreads imo, and after sitting on Cesear prediction, I can see him if he were to get a better outfit.
Not saying I'm fully on board the prediction, just saying the crew could use a scientist with Vangapunk appearing sooner or later anyway and also the theory about them going to space.
Franky is pretty much the SH's scientist already.
In fact, he's probably better than Caesar too, being actually able to replicate Vegapunk's work.
@LUFFY#1:
Not saying I'm fully on board the prediction, just saying the crew could use a scientist with Vangapunk appearing sooner or later anyway and also the theory about them going to space.
The hell? They already have Chopper for bio stuff and Franky for engineer stuff, plus they have zero reasons to go to space.
@Buggy:
Everyones a little crazy.
I think being around the SHs, Ceaser can turn around a new leaf…can you imagine if the SHs meet Vegapunk while Ceaser is in their custody? loll It be some funny moments for sure
Genocidal
Drugs Kids
Intended To Kill Said Kids If They Weren't Drugged Properly
Makes and Sells Weapons
Luffy Hates Him
Racist
Terrible Hair
Actually Stated To Have No Redeeming Qualities
Franky is pretty much the SH's scientist already.
In fact, he's probably better than Caesar too, being actually able to replicate Vegapunk's work.
That's true actually, yeah, you're right. Nevermind. That was the only reason I even considered the theory to be honest.
There is no reason to believe that if Sanji was really captured, then the Straw Hats will have to rescue him. Obviously what'll happen to Sanji is heavily tied in with his past, before he worked on that cruise ship as a kid. I toyed with the idea of Capone having something to do with his past, cause even though he is from West Blue he is 20 years older than Sanji. But there's nothing really to base any theories on. I doubt Tamago or Pekoms have any connection to Sanji, as they were face to face with him at Fishman Island.
Who do you think will go with Pekoms onto Zou? Tamago seems like the most likely choice, although Bege has a strong possibility.
Genocidal
Drugs Kids
Intended To Kill Said Kids If They Weren't Drugged Properly
Makes and Sells Weapons
Luffy Hates Him
Racist
Terrible Hair
Actually Stated To Have No Redeeming Qualities
like seriously, even the worst of the worse have not been redeemed. I can't believe anyone thinks cc will join. It's like like storyline that show rehab for drug addicts (like with the kids), this dude is the dealer and he's a dick.
Oh I hope this means a mink is going to join the crew.
Genocidal
Drugs Kids
Intended To Kill Said Kids If They Weren't Drugged Properly
Makes and Sells Weapons
Luffy Hates Him
Racist
Terrible Hair
Actually Stated To Have No Redeeming Qualities
His redeeming quality is that he doesn't give a fuck.
Except that Luffy hasn't shown any desire to claim islands outside of their own protection. He would have been perfectly happy to leave Fishman Island in Big Mom's hands if she was a good person. Luffy is out to beat and topple the Yonkou on his way to becoming Pirate King, but he doesn't really want the power and territory that goes with it, just the freedom.
Yeah, I wouldn't have used claim at all if it wasn't for Fishman Island. If (ha! When) Luffy becomes PK then everybody will be responsible to follow who they want. Since he doesn't want to be a hero presumably there will be other things in place for if this goes wrong, but the main one will be that Luffy despises despots and their ilk and everybody will be aware of his ideals and that if you piss off the PK you're in for a world of trouble.
are you guys ready for the year of sanji
@mario:
are you guys ready for the year of sanji
Hell yeaaaah !!!
You bet! 16 chars
2016: the year of Sanji!
The year of Sanji! He will be off-panel the entire year:ninja:
Was more excited about his bounty and mystery about his birth, but Big mom just gives ever more mystery about him, if we didn't have enough.
Hey guys, there is a party for the Year of Sanji and everyone and every OP character is invited. Except Sanji.
He will come out of the cake dressed as a princess.
He will come out of the cake dressed as a princess.
And we'll finally have that third girl everyone's been clamoring for.
Nah. His bounty plus the fact he's been gone all of Zou means it's obviously building up to a huge event involving him this year. Not only that, but we'll soon see why he left as well. So all of that stuff together means he's going to get a lot of screen time and glory this year!
Thanks for finally realizing…
Objectively speaking, it remains ambiguous, and what's intended to be conveyed through that text is a mystery.
Concerning textual abbreviations in One Piece, it was already done by Oda many times.
Your attention here:
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The right-most guy has on his shirt 'WEVLUCY‘. It can be interpreted as either 'we have Lucy' or 'we love Lucy'.
We have Lucy is a reasonable interpretation grammatically(more or less), but its compliance with the set of events is problematic because they don't 'have' Lucy.
We love Lucy, on the other hand, has an interpretation that can be seen problematically, but its congruence with the set of events perfectly makes sense. The people's acts of pretending to chase Luffy off the island in order to save him from Fujitora are indeed acts of 'love'. The second reason why I see it this way is because the letter 'V' is the closest letter there is to a 'heart'. And a heart is used mostly as a pictorial abbreviation to substitute the verb 'love'. So it can be considered as such here as well. The only reason it can be seen problematically is if the people to whom this was directed are not familiar with this use of the letter ’V’. That is all.
There are other reasons why Oda could include French in his text, especially when it comes to Sanji: Sanji is depicted as a French cook. He used French a lot in both his attacks and his speech.
There are other instances of abbreviations used by Oda that can elude us.
Take a look at this:
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On Franky's shirt, there is "I 'sun'(symbolically) HT".
The only thing that could have been understood with certainty from that shirt was the pronoun 'I'. Everything else was vague. My take on it was that it was possibly meant to convey 'I shine hot'.
@RomanceDawn:
Fukaboshi asked Luffy to bring Fish Man Island back to zero. I don't think he meant literally destroy it until nothing exists but uh… Bring some part of their racial ideology back to zero and start a'new. When that line was first given it sure did seem like Luffy was given the green light to just wreck the place like Sharley said would happen.
He was talking literally. He said: 'use the power you possess, Strawhat, & reduce Fishman Island to nothing!' Hardly strike me as a metaphor.
@RomanceDawn:
What we are imagining is a very bad thing for Luffy to do, Luffy wasn't ignoring Fukaboshi when he saved the island, he brought things back to zero as the entire island began to rethink their stance on humans. I think Luffy will destroy the island and he will want to do it because while it's a horrible thing to do, it will ultimately end up as being something positive. Sharley's track record of horrible predictions will end with that one as something that is seemingly horrible but ultimately a greater good for all fish folk and the world.
While on FI there was no reason to destroy the place. What if however Big Mom and Kaido have a spectacular war for the island, Poseidon and all of its inhabitants? There could be 3 groups fighting for the island and somewhere down the line Luffy gets fed up, pulls a Baratie blast and figures no one should have it. It's selfish and child like but ultimately does far more good than harm. No one can now possibly control the physical space with Poseidon and the island residents are given the push they need to begin integration. At the very least they ALL can float around in Noah until things settle down.
With Big Mom's crew back in the story and Sanji's disappearance seemingly being tied to them(at least partially), it feels like some of those loose FI threads are going to get tackled soon.
I do agree that it is possible for Luffy to destroy the island one way or the other. I mean when Noah is ready to carry the inhabitants of Fishman Island and the inhabitants resolve themselves to leave the island, and if this comes at the time in which that 'evil' is trying to use both Poseidon and the island to rule the world, there isn't much to hold him back from destroying the island if necessary. Even if the evil is vanquished, Luffy could still be aware that there would be another evil that could set his sights on Fishman Island to use it as a base in order to realize his noxious plans (like imagine this scenario with me: the island is gonna be empty, the government get a whiff of that, and they decide to come to it & use it as an underwater base to prevent pirates from going to the New World & living their dreams), why not then destroy it?
I don't know about Kaido to be honest because Caribou was seen wrecking havoc at one of his favourite islands, but, since Caribou was caught by Drake and taken somewhere else, he could spill the beans under the pressure of torture, and this could make Kaido aware of Poseidon.
@Bugs:
Yes, but that stuff is obviously meant to happen in the post-Raftel portions. Until the Strawhats get to that island, their journey and side quests should take them closer, not further from it.
Silhouettes are not always exact matches of the person they are for.
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In all of these cases like others, they're purposely meant to be generic and vague for certain reasons. Sometimes its is that Oda hasn't gotten the designs finalized yet (although the emperor one looks closer to finish than most). Other times its to not to reveal too much to the reader. If the image that accompanied Otohime's speech looked too much like Luffy (who does have a distinct outline), it would spoil the surprise for Oda's main audience. Or it looks nothing like him because Oda wanted to make it known that Otohime didn't have a particular person in mind when she said that stuff, in the sense she had no clue what they would look like.Storywise, the person meant to fulfill the promise is clearly supposed to be Luffy. He's the protagonist and he has already connected with Shirahohsi.
I agree with you on what you said. However, while the silhouettes do not always conform with the person they were drawn to depict, that doesn't mean they always do not conform with the person they were drawn to depict. That silhouette, as stated by Clessenur, definitely resembles Shanks: it has one right arm, just as Shanks has one right arm, & it has fluttery cape, resembling Shanks' cape. So, it could be, as you said, either just Luffy or it could be someone else. Given how things are thus far, I definitely agree that Luffy is the most prominent candidate for that vacant position, but there is no guarantee that things will continue to be as they are.
@Jabberwok:
@Australopithicus
I was looking off a mangastream translation, so there's obviously some room for fudged translations there.
Yes, I completely agree with you on Mangastream's translation. You should see on another forum that criticizing MS is like uttering blasphemy in the presence of a Mangastreamish cult.
@Jabberwok:
It's unclear if Pekoms and Tamago know that the origin of the treasure is Fishman Island, but it goes from Luffy's possession to Big Mom's, which means she will in all likelihood blame Luffy for the bomb. Jinbe doesn't know about the bomb but he's worried about Fishman Island's wellbeing for other reasons, and is apparently the only one to be worried about Big Mom targeting the island. Since he's the also the one to know Big Mom best, his fear might be well-founded.
I completely agree with you.
@Jabberwok:
Regarding Caribou, I don't think even he is dumb enough to attack his own patron's man, which suggests that someone else (Bkackbeard) is his superior. The other option is that he fought Scotch on behalf of the granny.
The thought I had in mind is that he may tell them what he knows if they start torturing him because, last I checked, I saw him being taken by Drake on a ship. But the very odd thing was that he was not manacled as was being indicated by his wavings to the old woman that had saved him.
Could it be that he was wrecking havoc on Kaido's island because he just did not know that it was Kaido's? But then again, it would be pretty weird to aid the rebellious elements of that island without having an idea against whom they were revolting.
@sggupta:
i am not debating that they would go to the fishmen island,i'm just saying i think the reason for their going will be deeply tied to the larger story of the world of one piece.
Well, I was just sharing what I think :) And I agree.
@sggupta:
well,as others said shadows don't really necessarily mean something,especially considering otohime most probably didn't know who that person will be.
also,the promise of shirahoshi,who is the current poseidon and luffy mirrors the promise of joyboy and previous poseidon,not to mention luffy being the protaganist and carries the name of "d",who are heavily hinted to be members of the same kingdom who left the poneglyphs.i think that's enough indication.
i know that doesn't make it certain,but occam's razor should really be followed in cases like these.
I am not arguing against what you suggested because it's pretty probable given how thing are thus far. I was simply trying to point out that there is always the possibility that there could also be somebody else. As I have said to Bugs, the silhouettes can be different from the people they were drawn to depict, but that's not always true.
A bit late but happy new year everyone! 2016 is going to be Sanji's year, I can't wait to see what Oda has in store for us!
I have a feeling that next chapter will be centered on Sanji and of course Pekoms. I wonder how things went and if they fought.
The thought I had in mind is that he may tell them what he knows if they start torturing him because, last I checked, I saw him being taken by Drake on a ship. But the very odd thing was that he was not manacled as was being indicated by his wavings to the old woman that had saved him.
Could it be that he was wrecking havoc on Kaido's island because he just did not know that it was Kaido's? But then again, it would be pretty weird to aid the rebellious elements of that island without having an idea against whom they were revolting.
I suppose it's implied that Drake is so strong that kairoseki cuffs are redundant since Caribou doesn't have a chance of escaping anyway.
I think there are three possibilities, in order of likelihood:
A) Caribou is under Blackbeard's command. He doesn't know it's Kaido's island and is captured by Drake.
B) Caribou is Kaido's man, but doesn't realize it's his island until he's beaten by Drake. Realizing his mistake, he goes quietly.
C) Caribou is Kaido's man and eventually realizes it's his island, but fights Scotch anyway in order to save the granny. He's then captured by Drake and goes to face his boss for mutiny.
All three end with Kaido finding out about Poseidon, but Option A leaves the door open for Blackbeard to learn about Shirahoshi as well.
I suppose it's implied that Drake is so strong that kairoseki cuffs are redundant since Caribou doesn't have a chance of escaping anyway.
I think there are three possibilities, in order of likelihood:
A) Caribou is under Blackbeard's command. He doesn't know it's Kaido's island and is captured by Drake.
B) Caribou is Kaido's man, but doesn't realize it's his island until he's beaten by Drake. Realizing his mistake, he goes quietly.
C) Caribou is Kaido's man and eventually realizes it's his island, but fights Scotch anyway in order to save the granny. He's then captured by Drake and goes to face his boss for mutiny.All three end with Kaido finding out about Poseidon, but Option A leaves the door open for Blackbeard to learn about Shirahoshi as well.
What makes you think he's under anybody? for all we know he's just new super rookie, who wanted to fake joining the (fake)Strawhats in order to kill them and make a name for himself. He didn't seem to be affiliated with any Yonko since he just gotten into the new world for the first time fairly recently.
What makes you think he's under anybody? for all we know he's just new super rookie, who wanted to fake joining the (fake)Strawhats in order to kill them and make a name for himself. He didn't seem to be affiliated with any Yonko since he just gotten into the new world for the first time fairly recently.
He once refered that if he brings Strawhats head "somebody" will be happy.
I will provide link to manga page shortly
That someone is obviously the ancient weapons seeker, also known as Swamp Senpaï !
That someone is obviously the ancient weapons seeker, also known as Swamp Senpaï !
Could be very cool if Caribou would be part of New Baroque Works - some of low ranks in it.
Damn, now you reminded me of Crocodile and how much I want to see him back in the main storyline..
I have hard time finding page where Caribou mentions that he wanted to please somebody with killing off Strawhats..
Long forgotten about about it, thanks for the reminder. Still doesn't mean he's already affiliated, he was probably planning to join this said someone by providing Shirahoshi or the info about her, once he realized he had no chance at taking Strahat's head.
I have hard time finding page where Caribou mentions that he wanted to please somebody with killing off Strawhats..
I don't remember his goal of killing the Strawhats being anything more than prestige/personal gain, but here Caribou refers to a superior who would want to know of Shirahoshi's power.
What makes you think he's under anybody? for all we know he's just new super rookie, who wanted to fake joining the (fake)Strawhats in order to kill them and make a name for himself. He didn't seem to be affiliated with any Yonko since he just gotten into the new world for the first time fairly recently.
Given his personality and the known powers of the New World, a Yonkou is the only logical choice for his boss. And of the Yonkou, only Blackbeard and maybe Kaido make sense.
I have hard time finding page where Caribou mentions that he wanted to please somebody with killing off Strawhats..
It is in chapter 652
Genocidal
Drugs Kids
Intended To Kill Said Kids If They Weren't Drugged Properly
Makes and Sells Weapons
Luffy Hates Him
Racist
Terrible Hair
Actually Stated To Have No Redeeming Qualities
I agree with all of this except for the terrible hair bit. Lol. I think his hair is pretty cool.
I don't remember his goal of killing the Strawhats being anything more than prestige/personal gain, but here Caribou refers to a superior who would want to know of Shirahoshi's power.
Given his personality and the known powers of the New World, a Yonkou is the only logical choice for his boss. And of the Yonkou, only Blackbeard and maybe Kaido make sense.
It'd be odd if it's Big Mom, since he's asking who are Pekoms and Tomago. It'd be an underling of BB or Kaido also.
can chopper use haki?!? did he hurt CC?
1-Gag scene.
2- It could have been Sanji.
was sort of being sarcastic but sort of wishful thinking. Usopp got it so it makes sense that the melee fighters get busoshoku (robin, chopper and brook)
was sort of being sarcastic but sort of wishful thinking. Usopp got it so it makes sense that the melee fighters get busoshoku (robin, chopper and brook)
He only has Observation Haki though. It might be easier to awaken to it than let's say Armament Haki.
So I'm going with gag, or just that CC didn't try to become intangible at that moment as he was taken by surprise.
was sort of being sarcastic but sort of wishful thinking. Usopp got it so it makes sense that the melee fighters get busoshoku (robin, chopper and brook)
I could definitely see Brook with Color of Observation (even though he doesn't have any eyes, yohohohoho) because his specialty is bard support and indirect combat, not front-line fighting.
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H](https://blueeyesdragonics.wordpress.com/2016/01/03/one-piece-2015-review-best-and-worst/)ere is my 2015 review for One Piece. I hope you guys enjoy your holiday season!
Does any one have a clean version of this picture ? It looks pretty cool.
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A bit late, but here is the clean version. I can't find new info, though…[hide][/hide]
A bit late, but here is the clean version. I can't find new info, though…[hide][qimg]http://i.imgur.com/19yOqOc.jpg[/qimg][/hide]
Oooh! You're the best!
A bit late, but here is the clean version. I can't find new info, though…[hide]http://i.imgur.com/19yOqOc.jpg[/hide]
Thanks for the high quality image! Here's a rough translation:
Kaido and Doflamingo had business dealings.
Law and Doflamingo are connected by fate.
Law/Luffy crushed Doflamingo.
Law/Luffy targeting Kaido.
Drake is under the umbrella (?) of Kaido. (Note the question mark).
Luffy has respect/promise towards Shanks.
Luffy and Big Mom are antagonistic towards each other.
Capone is under the umbrella of Big Mom.
Kid/Apoo/Hawkins targeting Shanks.
Kid/Apoo/Hawkins battled/at war/hostile towards Kaido.
Weevil targeting Blackbeard.
Kuzan collaborating with Blackbeard? (Note the question mark).
Kuzan and Sakazuki are antagonistic towards each other.
Sakazuki hunting/searching for Bonney.
Blackbeard heading to Rev. HQ? (Note the question mark).
Thanks for the high quality image! Here's a rough translation:
Kaido and Doflamingo had business dealings.
Law and Doflamingo are connected by fate.
Law/Luffy crushed Doflamingo.
Law/Luffy targeting Kaido.
Drake is under the umbrella (?) of Kaido. (Note the question mark).
Luffy has respect/promise towards Shanks.
Luffy and Big Mom are antagonistic towards each other.
Capone is under the umbrella of Big Mom.
Kid/Apoo/Hawkins targeting Shanks.
Kid/Apoo/Hawkins battled/at war/hostile towards Kaido.
Weevil targeting Blackbeard.
Kuzan collaborating with Blackbeard? (Note the question mark).
Kuzan and Sakazuki are antagonistic towards each other.
Sakazuki hunting/searching for Bonney.
Blackbeard heading to Rev. HQ? (Note the question mark).
this is awsome. i knew it was connections, but thought we'd have gotten something new.., urouge is staying away from trouble like a good boy. this certainly. makes me eager to find out what happened on kidd's base.. Wonder why Urouge and bonney is in same box, does that mean they are doing or working together? Also no zoro Dracule connection, or fujitora Sakazuki…..
Wonder why Urouge and bonney is in same box, does that mean they are doing or working together?
More likely they are the only 2 Rookies going solo.
so akainu it's STILL looking for bonney..wonder how she managed to escape the first time..athough back then i pointed out the plothole of blackbeard binding her with chains she could easily slip off by changing to a child..pretty muhch the same way chopper freed himself from kumadori back in enies lobby
Blah. The wait time between chapters can get monotonous. I'll be glad when the next one finally comes. I'm tempted to wait a few weeks and read 3 or 4 chapters all at once and thus reading it in bulk but I lack the patience for that I think.