didn't ben know there was a break last week
Chapter 811 : Roko
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Blackbeard going to the Navy instead of attacking the Revolutionary base is huge! He will probably run away with weapons unless he got a different agenda behind it. Everything has been working too easily in BB's favour.
Revo Army's location known is huge to the WG. WG vs Revo coming sooner than expected? Ahh so excited. But first this is the year of Sanji!!
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@Buggy:
Blackbeard going to the Navy instead of attacking the Revolutionary base is huge! He will probably run away with weapons unless he got a different agenda behind it. Everything has been working too easily in BB's favour.
Revo Army's location known is huge to the WG. WG vs Revo coming sooner than expected? Ahh so excited. But first this is the year of Sanji!!
No mention of Blackbeard going to the Navy with information of the Revolutionary base. It wouldn't surprise me if he did and took advantage of the situation like he did with Whitebeard pirates vs. Marines.
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didn't ben know there was a break last week
That reminds me.
Note: There is no chapter this week as well. -
Wonder why Urouge and bonney is in same box, does that mean they are doing or working together?
Yes, curious!
so akainu it's STILL looking for bonney..wonder how she managed to escape the first time..athough back then i pointed out the plothole of blackbeard binding her with chains she could easily slip off by changing to a child..pretty muhch the same way chopper freed himself from kumadori back in enies lobby
No plot hole. Blackbeard was using seastone chains.
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WTF?! WHY NOT?! ugh…
Chapter 811 came almost 1 full week earlier then it was supposed to and there was gonna be a break after that (new year) so, instead of 1 week gap we get almost 2 week gap.
EDIT (thanks Zach Logan)
December 7th: WSJ Issue #1 - One Piece Chapter 809
December 14th: WSJ Issue #2 - No One Piece Chapter
December 21st: WSJ Issue #3-4 - One Piece Chapter 810
December 28th: No Weekly Shonen Jump or One Piece
January 4th: WSJ Issue #5-6 - One Piece Chapter 811
January 11th: No Weekly Shonen Jump or One Piece
January 18th: WSJ Issue #7 - One Piece Chapter 812We were supposed to get chapter 811 around new year's day but we got it WAY earlier.
H T C - Hoje Tive Cá
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@HTC:
Chapter 811 came almost 1 full week earlier then it was supposed to and there was gonna be a break after that (new year) so, instead of 1 week gap we get almost 2 week gap.
How very odd. Idk how one can release a chapter a week early but ok, that makes sense…. but is still irritating.
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This is zou hard.
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Based on the previous years, there is a chance we'll get this one early too (maybe this saturday). But that would mean no chapter in the following week, so there is nothing to gain from getting it early anyways.
If not, the next chapter will be available on the 14th.
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Wonder why Urouge and bonney is in same box, does that mean they are doing or working together?
Back when this picture was originally posted, I asked the same question, and Galaxy 9000 (I believe) answered that they were in the same box because they were the only two Supernovas not affiliated / opposed to an Emperor, or part of an alliance.
I think that's the most plausible explanation since the picture wouldn't reveal anything that is unknown to us readers. -
was sort of being sarcastic but sort of wishful thinking. Usopp got it so it makes sense that the melee fighters get busoshoku (robin, chopper and brook)
Robin with armament haki would be extremely deadly and OP. I can only think of several logias or extreme sturdy pirates who would present a menace to her should she obtain it. I wouldn't like to start on about awakening their DF as by virtue of their fruits abilities the possibilities are scary crazy.
For Robin, if she could sprout any part of someone she touches she could literally sprout a lung, a heart, a head to finish it off
Brooks DF is absurdly intriguing. Can he bring souls back from the other side if he awakens his DF?. His power next to Robin's seems like one with a 1000 potencial lines to tap into.
As for Chopper, I am somehow visualizing him as a human teenager if he manages to awaken his DF. However I am unsure what abilities would he obtain. It would be good for infiltration if he manages to keep it secret from outside the crew though
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I would say Chopper managed to awaken his fruit a long time ago.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
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Looking how great awakening seems to be, only makes you wonder how non df guys like garp( and maybe roger) to in the top. Pure haki?
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@uniaka:
Looking how great awakening seems to be, only makes you wonder how non df guys like garp( and maybe roger) to in the top. Pure haki?
Well Garp would probably have had Rokushiki as well as crazy haki prowess.
Add that to his insane training regimes (shattering mountains in preperation for fighting Chinjao) and it all adds up to an incredible combatant.
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I took a break with One Piece back at chapter 806, and came back now on a whim–hoping the rather weak cliffhanger of "a strawhat pirate is dead" would be resolved. I can't help but be disappointed that I came back the chapter before that actually happens!
Also, I'm not going to rain on anyone's parade, but this island really is boring to me. I really don't care about the Minkman tribe in a way like never before--their culture is was too convoluted. Plus, it's weird that they're introducing all these badass animal warriors while telling us the sad backstory of their defeat, while introducing a badass villian, Jack, who didn't actually defeat anyone personally but didn't lose himself because these Minkmen are so tough but also so sympathetic and weak and helpless and badass. That is, until Jack lost to the Navy days later but before that they all just bombed the island instead. The minkman's story is so bipolar, which I'd hope might end up being clever is they tie it into this kingdom's day and night hierarchy that seems to serve no purpose other then make this island weird, but I dunno. I'm frustrated, it feels like a lot is happening, but the story refuses to move forward when it's so close!
I'm just assuming I'm at the peak of the world building phase where it's gone on too long, and the really juicy stuff is coming later--just like every other island. Still, I'm missing the old day where the side characters could just lose and get saved by the Strawhat's later--things are getting way too complicated! Now after Dressrosa, I get the feeling that more "Strawhat Armada" candidates are going to show up, like the Minkmen here, and that's why they didn't lose straight out. I'm sure it's leading somewhere, but it's also painfully forced.
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i'm not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, in chapter 569's there's an elephant with "Zou" written on his hat.
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Wtf nice find mate
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"Zou" literally means "elephant". This isn't a foreshadowing :sad:
Well I guess it could foreshadow that Usopp will play an important role in this arcAny chance Brook is hiding in the Doskoi Panda bag on the last color spread ?
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Well in my opinion oda gave a little hint as he does from time to time not only cause of the name but also the logo with its resemblence of kaidou jolly or at least his trademark
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Funkfried is an éléphant aswell. In the raw and the anime he is referred to as a "zou". No foreshadowing there.
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I would say Chopper managed to awaken his fruit a long time ago.
16 chars of Absolutely.
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Robin with armament haki would be extremely deadly and OP. I can only think of several logias or extreme sturdy pirates who would present a menace to her should she obtain it. I wouldn't like to start on about awakening their DF as by virtue of their fruits abilities the possibilities are scary crazy.
For Robin, if she could sprout any part of someone she touches she could literally sprout a lung, a heart, a head to finish it off
Brooks DF is absurdly intriguing. Can he bring souls back from the other side if he awakens his DF?. His power next to Robin's seems like one with a 1000 potencial lines to tap into.
As for Chopper, I am somehow visualizing him as a human teenager if he manages to awaken his DF. However I am unsure what abilities would he obtain. It would be good for infiltration if he manages to keep it secret from outside the crew though
Considering what we've seen from Oda so far, he rarely involves women is serious fights, so I don't think Robin is going to become a major combatant with busoshoku. Either way, I think Kenbunshoku would be a more interesting combination with her ability, since she can sprout body parts on anything as long as she knows exactly where it is. Also matches her sneaking-and-getting-away-from-pursuers thing.
Considering how the mino-guards in Impel Down look like, I'd say that Chopper's awakened form would just be his monster point.
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the logo is just an elephant head. those arent horns but ears, so no real resemblance to kaidos jolly roger
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Considering how the mino-guards in Impel Down look like, I'd say that Chopper's awakened form would just be his monster point.
I've belabored this enough, so I don't wanna go too off topic here, but my take on it is this:
It seems like awakened zoans have a default state that resembles their zoan animal rather than their original animal. Most zoans - non-awakened ones - just look like "Some guy," and then can become an animal, hybrid, etc., but the Impel Down demon guards more closely resemble their zoan animals.Chopper's original animal is a reindeer, and his zoan animal is a human. His default mode resembles a little boy, and he lives his life like a human - not like a reindeer. So, in short, my position is this:
Correlation between default mode and awakened status:
Original Animal::Non-Awakened
Zoan Animal:: AwakenedFrom the little we've seen, defaulting to your pre-zoan animal is correlated with not being awakened, and defaulting to something closely resembling your zoan animal is correlated with being awakened. Chopper's default form resembles his zoan animal - which happens to be human - and so I believe he is awakened.
The trick is that he is basically a reverse zoan. Most zoans are humans who, when awakened, resemble their fruit animal. Chopper also resembles his fruit animal, it just happens to be a human. If he was not awakened, his default form would likely more closely resemble a reindeer; just like non-awakened humans who ate zoans are normally humans, a non-awakened reindeer who ate a zoan would normally be a reindeer.
By the way: This would mean that Sengoku, who ate the Buddha model of the human human fruit but defaults to an ordinary human, is not awakened.
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I've been thinking about it and I'm starting to doubt that Sanji's disappearance has anything to do with Caesar and Big Mom.
Actually, handing Caesar to Big Mom should be the right thing to do for the alliance.
They don't need to keep him anymore with the SMILE factory being destroyed and Doflamingo defeated.
I don't know what research she was funding (food related I guess) but I doubt Big Mom is interested in making mass destruction weapons so letting her keep him should be fine.
Plus, that way, if Kaidou's crew wants the SMILE's production back or more gas weapons they would have to go to war first against Big Mom to get Caesar back.
For those reasons, I don't see any good reason for Sanji to fight back against Pekoms or to even go after them to get him back if he was taken.As for Sanji's destination, I'm guessing his home country in North Blue (which is "north" of the new world).
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16 chars of Absolutely.
The question is if the 3 min limit is something inherent with Zoan awakening or is it just cause chopper is cheating with the rumble ball.
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I've belabored this enough, so I don't wanna go too off topic here, but my take on it is this:
It seems like awakened zoans have a default state that resembles their zoan animal rather than their original animal. Most zoans - non-awakened ones - just look like "Some guy," and then can become an animal, hybrid, etc., but the Impel Down demon guards more closely resemble their zoan animals.Chopper's original animal is a reindeer, and his zoan animal is a human. His default mode resembles a little boy, and he lives his life like a human - not like a reindeer. So, in short, my position is this:
Correlation between default mode and awakened status:
Original Animal::Non-Awakened
Zoan Animal:: AwakenedFrom the little we've seen, defaulting to your pre-zoan animal is correlated with not being awakened, and defaulting to something closely resembling your zoan animal is correlated with being awakened. Chopper's default form resembles his zoan animal - which happens to be human - and so I believe he is awakened.
The trick is that he is basically a reverse zoan. Most zoans are humans who, when awakened, resemble their fruit animal. Chopper also resembles his fruit animal, it just happens to be a human. If he was not awakened, his default form would likely more closely resemble a reindeer; just like non-awakened humans who ate zoans are normally humans, a non-awakened reindeer who ate a zoan would normally be a reindeer.
By the way: This would mean that Sengoku, who ate the Buddha model of the human human fruit but defaults to an ordinary human, is not awakened.
Honestly, I don't think Oda thought about Chopper about awakening. Hell, I think he forgets is a DF and more some exotic critter.
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Honestly, I don't think Oda thought about Chopper about awakening. Hell, I think he forgets is a DF and more some exotic critter.
Chopper's forms never made any sense. And I'm not refering to his Rumble Ball transformations. Ignore those. Think about his 3 basic forms that every zoan has. He has his original form, that's just a reindeer. That one is ok. He has his fully transformed form that should be human. For some reason, the reindeer nose is still there, and the body fur still seems to be there too. What the hell? Now, his hybrid form is the weirdest… why is it smaller than both other forms? The size should be somewhere in between... as for the shape, I guess that's ok. Sort of.
The thing is, Oda wanted a cute mascot-like charater in the crew. He drew Chopper's hybrid form the way he saw it best to fit into that cute-mascot category and decided to ignore the regular zoan logic. That doesn't bother me (much), I'm just pointing it out.I thought the aditional transformations he had while using the Rumble Ball were awesome, but now I think it's very weird that he can use them whithout taking the drug. I hope we have a reasonable explanation for that someday.
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The question is if the 3 min limit is something inherent with Zoan awakening or is it just cause chopper is cheating with the rumble ball.
Are you referring to monster point? I don't think that's Chopper's awakened form. I think his normal, walking around form is his awakened form. Thus why it's awakened: His normal form isn't a reindeer, it's something human like, just like the demon guard's normal forms aren't humans - they're animal like.
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I'm pretty happy with the theory that Chopper's monster point is basically an artificially induced awakening of his Devil Fruit.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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I'm pretty happy with the theory that Chopper's monster point is basically an artificially induced awakening of his Devil Fruit.
The one thing we can be fairly certain about awakened zoans is that they are people who got stuck in hybrid form with animal part taking over human personality.
Since Chopper was an animal to begin with, and he acts more like a human…
It all depends on how exactly zoan awakening is manifested. Is it zoan devil fruit taking over the host only, or does it also mean the user can have more control over his transformations.
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The one thing we can be fairly certain about awakened zoans is that they are people who got stuck in hybrid form with animal part taking over human personality.
Since Chopper was an animal to begin with, and he acts more like a human…
It all depends on how exactly zoan awakening is manifested. Is it zoan devil fruit taking over the host only, or does it also mean the user can have more control over his transformations.
It's all a bit up the in air with Chopper, thanks to his unusual circumstances of being animal + human, rather than human + animal, like you mentioned.
I like to think that the awakening (in the case of zoan fruits) allows the user to access the most powerful, pure part of whatever creature the fruit harnesses.
This could still fit in with Chopper's monster point since he does essentially become a large, wild humanoid creature.
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Even guessing at paramecia awakening is hard right now. Diamante's fruit allow him to change objects into a fluttering state, Gladius' fruit allow him to explode objects as well, not to mention even more problematic cases like Sugar and Jora… so an awakened paramecia affecting things other than the user's body wouldn't make sense in their case since their fruit already do that.
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well the thing is, the only rule that all paramecia fruits really share is that they aren't logia or zoans. and since there arent some distinctive categorys in which you can divide all paramecias, the awakening of most paramecia fruits would be individual.
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well the thing is, the only rule that all paramecia fruits really share is that they aren't logia or zoans. and since there arent some distinctive categorys in which you can divide all paramecias, the awakening of most paramecia fruits would be individual.
After doflamingo we can only make conclusions about other 'producing' parameciasWell, paramecias could be divided in like 2-3 categories, it doesn't have to be unique awakening for most paramecias. Like paramecias that work only on the user's body, or paramecias that work on the environment or that work only on people.
Even zoans are not all the same, since ones like marco and sengoku are rather different from most zoans, and work more like paramecias but still so far it we know zoans have the same awakening. -
Robin with armament haki would be extremely deadly and OP. I can only think of several logias or extreme sturdy pirates who would present a menace to her should she obtain it. I wouldn't like to start on about awakening their DF as by virtue of their fruits abilities the possibilities are scary crazy.
For Robin, if she could sprout any part of someone she touches she could literally sprout a lung, a heart, a head to finish it off
Brooks DF is absurdly intriguing. Can he bring souls back from the other side if he awakens his DF?. His power next to Robin's seems like one with a 1000 potencial lines to tap into.
As for Chopper, I am somehow visualizing him as a human teenager if he manages to awaken his DF. However I am unsure what abilities would he obtain. It would be good for infiltration if he manages to keep it secret from outside the crew though
That is an extremely interesting subject and the possibilities are endless!
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@uniaka:
Well, paramecias could be divided in like 2-3 categories, it doesn't have to be unique awakening for most paramecias. Like paramecias that work only on the user's body, or paramecias that work on the environment or that work only on people.
2-3?
We have users whose bodies gained permanent additional properties, like Luffy, Buggy, Alvida.
We have users who can break physics, like Whitebeard, Foxxy, Corazon, Kid.
Users who can transform their body like Wapol or Capone.
We have users who can transform parts of their body like Verygood, Bellamy, Apoo, Daz, Baby 5.
Then we have users who can affect the environment, like Gladius.
Users who can both transform themselves as well as their environment, like Diamante or
Users who can fuse with an element and controling, featuring Pica.
Users with fruits that give them abstract abilities, like Sugar and Law or Dekken.
Users who can produce a substance from their body, like Kalifa or Mr. 3 or Trebol.And you could even make more sub-categories. You could try putting them all under 3, but they behave so different that it would be impossible to have just 3 different ways of paramecia awakening behavior.
I'm sure there are couple more I can't think of now. Granted, some of these could be put under same category, depending on the criteria. Still a lot more than 3.
@uniaka:
Even zoans are not all the same, since ones like marco and sengoku are rather different from most zoans, and work more like paramecias but still so far it we know zoans have the same awakening.
All the zoans are fundamentally same. There's human form, hybrid form and full zoan form. Some users seem to be able to do partial transformations. That's it. It's a pretty solid thing compared to the mess that is paramecia.
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Oh, this chapter looks interesting ….. I still don't like Caesar Clown . He's still a asshole,but if he does anything redeeming on his own I'll accept him as a Strawhat ally ..
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Chapter this week or nah?
Originally Posted by Monkey King
I want everyone to note, in about ten minutes of time, a Bosnian, a Saudi Arabian, an American, and a Brazilian all sat around millions of miles away from eachother discussing rubber pirate comic books from Japan.
You've all had your 21st Century moment for the day, carry one.
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aww sheit. :sad:
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I want to buy the Digital Viz volumes but it seems that I need to live either on the US or Canada in order to afford them. I live in Argentina though. Someone please tell me what to do.
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I want to buy the Digital Viz volumes but it seems that I need to live either on the US or Canada in order to afford them. I live in Argentina though. Someone please tell me what to do.
Try using a vpn and a US/CA address/zip or use the amazon app for android or ios with a vpn as well.
Others experiences:First you download the Amazon app store, its not in play store but in amazon website. Create your account, and if you can succesfuly install the viz manga app from it, you only need to pay though amazon. Been doing it for two years, from Venezuela and from Spain, without issue. It feeks shady but its not different from importing from Japan directly, the way that I see it.
For people who do not have a tablet/smartphone. If you are based in europe you could also use the webreader of comixology.eu because they accept any card and payment method that is based in the eu, respectively has access to comixology.eu. With google chrome you only need the hola addon (or any other vpn/proxy connection tool) to have access to Shonen Jump on CMX. I also found out that shonenjump.viz.com allows payment from europe since they expanded SJ to Ireland and the UK. (Again you need the hola addon or other vpn if you are based in another region). I was able to pay with my german paypal account on http://shonenjump.viz.com/. Anyways, I still use an us itunes account that I created years ago and buy us itunes gift cards for the sake of anonymity.
iTunes has a better quality by the way.
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Watch the end of next weeks chapter go in an arbitrary manner "LOLZ! BRAEK NEX WEEK!"
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The panel listing the Kid Alliance being at odds with Kaido is interesting… Kinda guess things didn't go well for them
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