Gotta love the endless complaining that comes with a break. It's a bummer coming here sometimes because of the people who refuse to enjoy things
Chapter 811 : Roko
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I feel like saying this, I happen to care about Oda's health more then him releasing new chapters so I guess that's what I'm naturally am. I wish Oda keeps getting breaks to support himself or just give his assistant more work to reduce stress.
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@joekido:
I feel like saying this, I happen to care about Oda's health more then him releasing new chapters so I guess that's what I'm naturally am. I wish Oda keeps getting breaks to support himself or just give his assistant more work to reduce stress.
I agree but this isn't an Oda break it is one of Shonen's 4 mandatory weekly breaks. There is no Shonen's jump magazine so therefore there is no chapter
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I agree but this isn't an Oda break it is one of Shonen's 4 mandatory weekly breaks. There is no Shonen's jump magazine so therefore there is no chapter
I know that, I'm talking about his future breaks, not Shonen breaks.
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People work to earn their living and most successful people on this planet usually more often than not, actually almost without exception work extra hard…
Naturally too much work is never good, but so are tons of other stuff like smoking ( we all know why this is mentioned) and so on and on....
Where am I going with this? I find it really silly when every time people will be saying where is the chapter, or I am not ok with breaks... that people have that need to come out and say how they are selfish and rude and god knows what... and in addtion they are like throwing in the comments about how Oda can take all the time off he wants, because they want him healthy etc.
Comendable no doubt... but for god's sake the guy is a professional author creating the most selling manga in the world... I dont see people being so patient when it comes to tons of other stuff and quite frankly I cant really imagine normal people taking weekly breaks in the fashion Oda does.
The guy is a workaholic, that is in his nature and he loves the work he does, but he is also "running" a business and is providing something to the people.
Releasing One Piece, until he gets paid for it and he gets paid nicely... is something which is not only our blessing it is also his duty. As stupid as it sounds, it is his job. I dont get what's the fuss about people expecting him to do it in a regular fashion.
And by the way, for me personally I could care less, I have other stuff to do and manga to read I can wait no problem. But I understand the concept where it is normal for people to expect him to provide chapters on a regular basis as also, that they are annoyed when he doesn't for whatever reason. We run a family business over here every time I am absent, be it because of illness, or whateve,r people get annoyed, or at least stressed because of it, because they wish to be in contact with me...
While I too wish to have peace and rest, and do not wish to be bothered when I am not at work it is a luxury people who have build something just cant afford, or they can but then they are basically saying to the world. Look I have enough money and can decide on my own when I ll work and deliver for you and when not...Cool but expect customers to leave which is perfectly normal if that is the case. And same in manga world, how many people have left manga like HxH, Berserk etc exactly for such reasons.
Anyway just a bit to talk about while we wait for next chapter and oh btw so I wont just "bitch" and stuff it was a great chapter 811, hats off to you Oda :P
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chapter this week? man these 2 weeks went by pretty quick lol
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Quick question for the Powermanga staff that post here.
I saw Cnet128 uploaded his translation for 811 yesterday, so is there any chance of you guys releasing the batch 807-811 now that the holidays are over?
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Love how 1 idiot has everyone riled up lol chapter is almost here! this madness shall end
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@Buggy:
Love how 1 idiot has everyone riled up lol chapter is almost here! this madness shall end
Wouldn't go as far an say he's an idiot, it's all Subjective in the end so meh
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@joekido:
I know that, I'm talking about his future breaks, not Shonen breaks.
I guess the context just confused me then since you made the statement on a non-Oda break, but yeah I agree the series will go for at least another 8 years and that is on the low side so what's an extra year in the grand scheme of things
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People work to earn their living and most successful people on this planet usually more often than not, actually almost without exception work extra hard…
Naturally too much work is never good, but so are tons of other stuff like smoking ( we all know why this is mentioned) and so on and on....
Where am I going with this? I find it really silly when every time people will be saying where is the chapter, or I am not ok with breaks... that people have that need to come out and say how they are selfish and rude and god knows what... and in addtion they are like throwing in the comments about how Oda can take all the time off he wants, because they want him healthy etc.
Comendable no doubt... but for god's sake the guy is a professional author creating the most selling manga in the world... I dont see people being so patient when it comes to tons of other stuff and quite frankly I cant really imagine normal people taking weekly breaks in the fashion Oda does.
The guy is a workaholic, that is in his nature and he loves the work he does, but he is also "running" a business and is providing something to the people.
Releasing One Piece, until he gets paid for it and he gets paid nicely... is something which is not only our blessing it is also his duty. As stupid as it sounds, it is his job. I dont get what's the fuss about people expecting him to do it in a regular fashion.
And by the way, for me personally I could care less, I have other stuff to do and manga to read I can wait no problem. But I understand the concept where it is normal for people to expect him to provide chapters on a regular basis as also, that they are annoyed when he doesn't for whatever reason. We run a family business over here every time I am absent, be it because of illness, or whateve,r people get annoyed, or at least stressed because of it, because they wish to be in contact with me...
While I too wish to have peace and rest, and do not wish to be bothered when I am not at work it is a luxury people who have build something just cant afford, or they can but then they are basically saying to the world. Look I have enough money and can decide on my own when I ll work and deliver for you and when not...Cool but expect customers to leave which is perfectly normal if that is the case. And same in manga world, how many people have left manga like HxH, Berserk etc exactly for such reasons.
Anyway just a bit to talk about while we wait for next chapter and oh btw so I wont just "bitch" and stuff it was a great chapter 811, hats off to you Oda :P
Where do you get that he is required to release the series on a weekly basis or even at all. If he wanted to he could say f*ck it and just stop today if he felt the need or want to, unless he is under some sort of contract with shonen. Also it's a little different then a family run store, you are comparing apples and oranges
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@Buggy:
chapter this week? man these 2 weeks went by pretty quick lol
Next official issue comes out January the 18th, so we may have a chapter at the end of the week.
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Quick question for the Powermanga staff that post here.
I saw Cnet128 uploaded his translation for 811 yesterday, so is there any chance of you guys releasing the batch 807-811 now that the holidays are over?
Probably very soon. Our redrawer has been on vacation for the holidays, so that's what's been holding us from releasing over the past few weeks.
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@Galaxy:
Probably very soon. Our redrawer has been on vacation for the holidays, so that's what's been holding us from releasing over the past few weeks.
Thanks for the reply, and hard work. That's great news, can't wait. :happy:
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@Galaxy:
Probably very soon. Our redrawer has been on vacation for the holidays, so that's what's been holding us from releasing over the past few weeks.
O happy day~ You must know Galaxy that I am one of the biggest fans of Powermanga.
An image I had for quite some time now:!
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Any chance of early spoilers in a few hours or are we getting them in 20-24 like standard?
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Naturally too much work is never good, but so are tons of other stuff like smoking ( we all know why this is mentioned) and so on and on….
Yeah smoking, which comes from stress of demanding and nagging people it seems. And other reasons.
Where am I going with this? I find it really silly when every time people will be saying where is the chapter, or I am not ok with breaks… that people have that need to come out and say how they are selfish and rude and god knows what... and in addtion they are like throwing in the comments about how Oda can take all the time off he wants, because they want him healthy etc.
Don't cry over something you don't pay for and more importantly, are not entitled to in any way, and people won't answer that you are selfish. ;)
Comendable no doubt… but for god's sake the guy is a professional author creating the most selling manga in the world... I dont see people being so patient when it comes to tons of other stuff and quite frankly I cant really imagine normal people taking weekly breaks in the fashion Oda does.
Comparing fucking apples to oranges, every job is different, every contract is different. Oda is not a normal person, he is the most successful author/mangaka japan has ever had, he works under special conditions that we aren't privy to.
The guy is a workaholic, that is in his nature and he loves the work he does, but he is also "running" a business and is providing something to the people.
Releasing One Piece, until he gets paid for it and he gets paid nicely… is something which is not only our blessing it is also his duty. As stupid as it sounds, it is his job. I dont get what's the fuss about people expecting him to do it in a regular fashion.
Did you sleep during the past eighteen years? He's been delivering chapters regularly for eighteen years, only to have some additional liberties added to his shedule over the last couple years due to him being the cash cow of the publisher. Getting an extra break during the development of a movie for his franchise is nothing but reasonable.
Shueisha is the one running the business, not Oda.
And by the way, for me personally I could care less, I have other stuff to do and manga to read I can wait no problem. But I understand the concept where it is normal for people to expect him to provide chapters on a regular basis as also, that they are annoyed when he doesn't for whatever reason. We run a family business over here every time I am absent, be it because of illness, or whateve,r people get annoyed, or at least stressed because of it, because they wish to be in contact with me…
While I too wish to have peace and rest, and do not wish to be bothered when I am not at work it is a luxury people who have build something just cant afford, or they can but then they are basically saying to the world. Look I have enough money and can decide on my own when I ll work and deliver for you and when not...Stop that nonsense, Oda is providing regularly 3/4 chapters before getting a break for more than a year now, this is the regular for One Piece now. Not being able to accept/understand this shows how obtuse certain people are.
Personal anecdotes to and fro, but it's because he's been working 20/7 while being ill that he nearly got irreparably hurt.
Cool but expect customers to leave which is perfectly normal if that is the case. And same in manga world, how many people have left manga like HxH, Berserk etc exactly for such reasons.
Neither Togashi nor Miura could give less of a fuck. What a pity. :) Also, comparing OP's shedule to HxH, which has been hiatus for more than a year twice now before continuing it's serialization, or Miura, who's is doing all of the art and story by himself and providing his support to three movies and now a new anime adaption, is an idiocy by itself. smh
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Any chance of early spoilers in a few hours or are we getting them in 20-24 like standard?
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More like 36-48 hours, like usual.
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@Galaxy:
The "you're just a big fanboy" argument is probably one of the worst arguments possible if you want to actually be taken seriously.
Its funny that I don't see you making similar statements to him and others calling others Sanji fanboys.
So you're just pissed at the Sanji stuff? Looks like it.
Just how many other titles do you read? Because to say that 90% of manga is worse than Shounen is a pretty bold statement, even Seinen. Have you ever read a Seinen to make such a claim? Berserk or Vagabond, or even Vinland Saga…. they're all pretty good and are way above shounens in my book.
But then again it looks like you're just overreacting.Yes, I read Berserk in 2009, I liked it and right when it got to the best part, the author kind of gave up. I think the author has only released 10 chapters in 7 years. I have read some other stuff as well. I didnt read Vagabond, mostly because I didnt like the initial chapters.
Its easy to see why the Chinese light novels, Chinese Manhua, and Korean Webtoons are overtaking Japanese Manga internationally on every single manga site. The humor is very straight forward and more mature. The humor is not weird like the humor in most manga. The stories are completely unique from the rest of the world. The Chinese stories have a better mythology to build the fantasy novels on. The light novels make great use of demons, spirit beasts, power ranking systems, interspatial rings, training, and much more. The Korean webtoons release 60+ page chapters in color weekly. They have the quantity advantage and are not lacking in quality. I would rank Tower of God, Soul Land, Battle Through The Heavens, Tails of Demons and Gods, Magi, Maoyuu Maou Yuusha, and Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari ahead of One Piece at the moment.
Just a year or two ago One Piece was my #1
I would still have Full Metal Alchemist, Kekkaishi, and Inuyasha in my top 5. I also love yu yu Hakusho, Naruto before Jiraiya died, Noblesse, Soul Cartel, and Magi.
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Its easy to see why the Chinese light novels, Chinese Manhua, and Korean Webtoons are overtaking Japanese Manga internationally on every single manga site. The humor is very straight forward and more mature. The humor is not weird like the humor in most manga. The stories are completely unique from the rest of the world. The Chinese stories have a better mythology to build the fantasy novels on. The light novels make great use of demons, spirit beasts, power ranking systems, interspatial rings, training, and much more. The Korean webtoons release 60+ page chapters in color weekly. They have the quantity advantage and are not lacking in quality. I would rank Tower of God, Soul Land, Battle Through The Heavens, Tails of Demons and Gods, Magi, Maoyuu Maou Yuusha, and Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari ahead of One Piece at the moment.
I like that you mentioned Japanese works like Magi, Maoyuu and Tate no Yuusha. Wasn't the point that Japanese works were getting behind? What is even the point you're trying to make?
I actually used to follow Magi, but the latest focus on politics and war instead of adventuring has turned me off. I actually prefer the Sinbad spin-off as it actually has far more adventuring.
And you mentioned Yu Yu Hakusho, which had one of the most awkward end of series of manga history. Left me with a bitter taste in the mouth.
And really, are you comparing novels with manga? You know one is much harder to produce than the other right? Why are you even comparing those?
But I guess you're just more attracted to more serious stuff. That's an ok opinion to have.
Also, it's weird that you use quantity as an argument when One Piece is a 800+ chapter work. It literally beats anything in terms of quantity alone save a few series that are much more long-running. Has any of the stuff you mentioned reach that far yet?
Its funny that I don't see you making similar statements to him and others calling others Sanji fanboys.
Because people just don't have the patience to let Oda explain what happened to Sanji, so we have to endure Sanji fans endlessly asking what happened to him.
You should at least have a bit of faith, you know. Sanji is a character that's been there since 1998.
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Uh, are you seriously using scanlation sites as proof that Japanese manga are being overtaken?
Do you even pay for any of those series you mentioned?
Also, I like that you mentioned Japanese works like Magi, Maoyuu and Tate no Yuusha. Wasn't the point that Japanese works were getting behind? What is even the point you're trying to make?
Clearly just another butt hurt soul that gets mad when the story doesn't follow the path they want, like Oda is in their mind or something. If you don't like it great that's fine everyone gets their own opinion but don't come bitching to a one piece forum and a heavily pro manga forum and say they are shit. There are plenty of other forums out there that would gladly share your opinions. I feel like this person just wants to try and get a rise out of the people here cause his regular life is that boring that he needs forum conflict to feel something, best to just ignore him and hope he just gets bored and goes away
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Its funny that I don't see you making similar statements to him and others calling others Sanji fanboys.
Yes, I read Berserk in 2009, I liked it and right when it got to the best part, the author kind of gave up. I think the author has only released 10 chapters in 7 years. I have read some other stuff as well. I didnt read Vagabond, mostly because I didnt like the initial chapters.
Its easy to see why the Chinese light novels, Chinese Manhua, and Korean Webtoons are overtaking Japanese Manga internationally on every single manga site. The humor is very straight forward and more mature. The humor is not weird like the humor in most manga. The stories are completely unique from the rest of the world. The Chinese stories have a better mythology to build the fantasy novels on. The light novels make great use of demons, spirit beasts, power ranking systems, interspatial rings, training, and much more. The Korean webtoons release 60+ page chapters in color weekly. They have the quantity advantage and are not lacking in quality. I would rank Tower of God, Soul Land, Battle Through The Heavens, Tails of Demons and Gods, Magi, Maoyuu Maou Yuusha, and Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari ahead of One Piece at the moment.
Just a year or two ago One Piece was my #1
I would still have Full Metal Alchemist, Kekkaishi, and Inuyasha in my top 5. I also love yu yu Hakusho, Naruto before Jiraiya died, Noblesse, and Magi.
You've read Berserk which is a Seinen, and yet claim these are shit compared to Shounens. I fail to understand this logic.
Too bad you gave up on Vagabond way too early imo, if you had continued reading it it gets much better. For me it's right there with Berserk.
Vinland Saga is also a good read, so I highly recommand it.So all in all I think Seinen as a genre is pretty good, the only complaint I have about most seinen titles is the erratic schedule. Like you said it seemed as if Miura gave up on Berserk. While it's true that there haven't been that many chapters released as of late, he is still trying to release something.So I don't think he's entirely giving up.
To me humour isn't the first thing I look for in a manga, I think it's a matter of preferences. You might not get the Japanese humour or just Oda's, but there are plenty of titles that are funny.I happen to like Magi's humour for example. I really don't get this comparison between Korean light novels and manga, there is a demand on both, and mangas such as One Piece are still doing rather well in terms of sales. So I really don't see it as Korean and Chinese light novels replacing manga altogether, just that right now people are more aware of said novels existence than in the past and are looking for them.It's not just manga anymore, and I think both can thrive, and just as there is shit manga out there, I bet there is shit Korean and Chinese novels too.Because once something becomes mainstream and it becomes more of a product if you will, of course the quality won't be as good as if it was in the past.So the market will be flooded with just as many average titles as what we see with Japanese manga these days.
One thing that I don't like about Manhwa(and I speak only about them since I've read a few titles in the past) is that they do copy mangas sometimes. For example Shin Angyo Onshi was pretty much inspired by Berserk, there's a lot of similarities between the two, and sadly it comes off as a pale copy of Berserk. Other titles that I really loved got discontinued, like Priest which I really loved btw, but the author never finished it.
So it's not as black and white as you make it sound. Last but not least I really believe that if something becomes unbearable to read, it's best just to drop it. Magi is doing this for me right now, so I'm seriously thinking about dropping it.
Also something that should be obvious, the quality of a work during its first stages isn't the same as the one in its latter stages. Most titles become less interesting, and even repetitive. And some are worse than others, for example when the author is just having plot twists after another for no reason. Or when you feel it's the same shit over and over again (coughBleachcough). It's pretty rare that an author would live up to the expectations and have a consistent quality in his work, and I can say this about Berserk too, even though it's prolly the best manga I've ever read. I also don't understand why things have to change, just because there was a time skip.And that doesn't apply just to One Piece, I say it for every manga. If there isn't some real character development then those changes won't make sense, and would be out of character. So in Luffy's case some expect him to become wiser and stop fooling around, when he was always an idiot, and probably always be. Just because he's two years older now doesn't mean he has to act all serious and stuff.So I don't know, perhaps if you can accept these so called flaws as something that is natural, and that pretty much any work suffers from you'd be able to still enjoy it. If not then I suggest moving on to something else, and I'm sure you'll have no problem replacing OP with some other Korean or Chinese LN, since those are superior.:happy:
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Uh, are you seriously using scanlation sites as proof that Japanese manga are being overtaken?
Do you even pay for any of those series you mentioned? Considering that a lot of those web works are free, it would be easy to believe that they're easier to access.
Also, I like that you mentioned Japanese works like Magi, Maoyuu and Tate no Yuusha. Wasn't the point that Japanese works were getting behind? What is even the point you're trying to make?
And really, are you comparing novels with manga? You know one is much harder to produce than the other right?
But I guess you're just more attracted to more serious stuff. That's an ok opinion to have.
You are just being rude now. I was responding to a post about Japanese manga that I have read. I do like Japanese Manga. I was listing the stuff I read besides One Piece.
When you don't read then type rude comments, it means you didnt read my post in context. Especially when you are clueless to the fact that Chinese Manhua is based on Chinese Light Novels. Panlong, Tales of Demons and Gods, Battle Though the Heavens, Soul Land, Soul Land 2, and some others that are going to be coming down the pipeline are all Chinese light novels.
How else am I supposed to compare international popularity of Manga, webtoons, and Chinese Manhua? Despite the Line website providing superior quality instant access to its webtoons, they are still wildly popular on manga sites despite the inferior quality and delayed released on said manga sites. The Chinese Manhuas instantly picked up tons of support and skyrocketed in popularity in less than a year.
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You are just being rude now. I was responding to a post about Japanese manga that I have read. I do like Japanese Manga. I was listing the stuff I read besides One Piece.
When you don't read then type rude comments, it means you didnt read my post in context. Especially when you are clueless to the fact that Chinese Manhua is based on Chinese Light Novels. Panlong, Tales of Demons and Gods, Battle Though the Heavens, Soul Land, Soul Land 2, and some others that are going to be coming down the pipeline are all Chinese light novels.
How else am I supposed to compare international popularity of Manga, webtoons, and Chinese Manhua? Despite the Line website providing superior quality instant access to its webtoons, they are still wildly popular on manga sites despite the inferior quality and delayed released on said manga sites. The Chinese Manhuas instantly picked up tons of support and skyrocketed in popularity in less than a year.
Rude? I said your opinion was ok. I even went to check out those works you mentioned (you spoke about Chinese light novels and I searched for Chinese light novels). I don't think I'm the one not reading posts here.
If they are based on a previous work, then it's no wonder that they have so much "productivity". The ideas are already there. No different from an anime adaptation. Is there any original, successful manhua?
And even then, from what I've seen, most of those manhua are still on their early stages. They're nowhere close to 800 chapters. Some aren't even 100 chapters old.
And if you want to compare international popularity of manga, then how about using official sales data? How much money are those manhua making? Or how many copies sold?
One Piece and several other Japanese manga themselves are heavily protected against piracy by official distributors. That's why manga sites are very cautious about hosting those, with people even getting arrested for it. Do manhuas have the same thing going on?
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Seems like Ravaha is a reincarnation of Dark Sith " Darth"…....my spider sense is tingling
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Seems like Ravaha is a reincarnation of Dark Sith " Darth"…....my spider sense is tingling
Your spider sense seems to be off this time, I'm afraid.
On the surface of things at least.
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Seems like Ravaha is a reincarnation of Dark Sith " Darth"…....my spider sense is tingling
You don't know Darth, man. His arguments actually had a bit of foundation and he wouldn't go as far as comparing One Piece or any manga with chinese novels or manhuas or whatever.
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At least Darth is a One Piece fan and a fan of manga in general. Seriously what is this guy doing in this section of the forum ?
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We need a Complaint Box or something.
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Yes, I read Berserk in 2009, I liked it and right when it got to the best part, the author kind of gave up. I think the author has only released 10 chapters in 7 years. I have read some other stuff as well. I didnt read Vagabond, mostly because I didnt like the initial chapters.
Its easy to see why the Chinese light novels, Chinese Manhua, and Korean Webtoons are overtaking Japanese Manga internationally on every single manga site. The humor is very straight forward and more mature. The humor is not weird like the humor in most manga. The stories are completely unique from the rest of the world. The Chinese stories have a better mythology to build the fantasy novels on. The light novels make great use of demons, spirit beasts, power ranking systems, interspatial rings, training, and much more. The Korean webtoons release 60+ page chapters in color weekly. They have the quantity advantage and are not lacking in quality. I would rank Tower of God, Soul Land, Battle Through The Heavens, Tails of Demons and Gods, Magi, Maoyuu Maou Yuusha, and Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari ahead of One Piece at the moment.
Just a year or two ago One Piece was my #1
I would still have Full Metal Alchemist, Kekkaishi, and Inuyasha in my top 5. I also love yu yu Hakusho, Naruto before Jiraiya died, Noblesse, Soul Cartel, and Magi.
This is just a matter of taste. For me Tower of God has a lot of bad sides (mainly due to the lack of interesting bad guys and a very weak second season and no humor). Tales of Demon and God is incredibly generic shonen with not great art. I don't see how you can claim this is great stuff. Tiger and Crane is a bit better in my opinion.
Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari is not that great either. With yuusha in the name, Yuusha ga Shinda is much more fun.
Most of the webtoons tend to have a terrible weakness though which is a very slow pace (which makes you think One Piece one is not that terrible in the end). Also most of them are digital coloured, so having them in colour is not really an advantage (seriously hand colour is still the best),
That say Hellper is definitely the best ongoing webtoon to read at the moment. HA Il-Kwon is also a great webtoon writer but it does not seem you ever thought Slice of Life series could be interesting. -
Well we do have those lovely stately report buttons.
Anyway, this ongoing discussion has little, if anything to do with this chapter.
So take it some place else y'all.
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I guess Sanji is forced to bake Sweets for BigMom forever (remember his first thought about BM @ FI). And there is still that tea Party to come with the bomb treasure chest from FI. Can't wait for the next chapter!
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I guess Sanji is forced to bake Sweets for BigMom forever (remember his first thought about BM @ FI). And there is still that tea Party to come with the bomb treasure chest from FI. Can't wait for the next chapter!
The Tea Party would have passed by now, but we'll probably get a flashback of it, with Big Mom getting a bomb to the face.
Sweet.
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This is just a matter of taste. For me Tower of God has a lot of bad sides (mainly due to the lack of interesting bad guys and a very weak second season and no humor). Tales of Demon and God is incredibly generic shonen with not great art. I don't see how you can claim this is great stuff. Tiger and Crane is a bit better in my opinion.
Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari is not that great either. With yuusha in the name, Yuusha ga Shinda is much more fun.
Most of the webtoons tend to have a terrible weakness though which is a very slow pace (which makes you think One Piece one is not that terrible in the end). Also most of them are digital coloured, so having them in colour is not really an advantage (seriously hand colour is still the best),
That say Hellper is definitely the best ongoing webtoon to read at the moment. HA Il-Kwon is also a great webtoon writer but it does not seem you ever thought Slice of Life series could be interesting.Incredibly people doesn't like Hellper. I think it's due to a first impression related to the art (the heavy-metal style of the protagonist). But, beyond that detail, the art is really really good and the sets are very imaginative and diverse. Not to talk about the plot and the characters. By far one of the best shounen nowadays. … And after a very poor season 2, ToG is coming back to the good way.
About OP I'm wondering... when we'll have the new chapter? Looking forward to see what happened with Sanji and Caesar and Caesar's heart. :blink:
EDIT: if anyone wants to add a gooood new shounen to the reading list Helck is the title.
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ToG season 1 reminded me of HxH and gave me hope, that didnt last very long. Season2 was legit bad, like Kubo tier.
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I guess Sanji is forced to bake Sweets for BigMom forever
Wouldn't that be considered as "being captured" ?
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About OP I'm wondering… when we'll have the new chapter? Looking forward to see what happened with Sanji and Caesar and Caesar's heart. :blink:
Thursday night/Friday morning EST is when chapters have been coming out for the past few months, besides the double issue chapters.
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@Galaxy:
Thursday night/Friday morning EST is when chapters have been coming out for the past few months, besides the double issue chapters.
Actually it has been Thursday early am EST when they have been coming out
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Spoiler should be coming out in like 12-16 hours I think
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@Buggy:
Spoiler should be coming out in like 12-16 hours I think
That will mostly be only the first page. We have to wait more for the complete chapter spoilers
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Incredibly people doesn't like Hellper. I think it's due to a first impression related to the art (the heavy-metal style of the protagonist). But, beyond that detail, the art is really really good and the sets are very imaginative and diverse. Not to talk about the plot and the characters. By far one of the best shounen nowadays. … .
The best things have to be kept secret :-)
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Actually it has been Thursday early am EST when they have been coming out
Nope. After the arrests back in late October, the schedule moved back even further. The normal was Thursday morning before that.
The only exception is double issues.
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@Galaxy:
Nope. After the arrests back in late October, the schedule moved back even further. The normal was Thursday morning before that.
The only exception is double issues.
Yeah u are right forgot the mangapanda thing happened so few chapters ago feels like it's been a while with all the breaks haha
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That will mostly be only the first page. We have to wait more for the complete chapter spoilers
1 page is more than enough. anything will be good enough, need something to talk about.
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Yeah, at this point a one-page spoiler is plenty to tide us over until Thursday.
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I will use this chance to say I love those first page spoilers. It is satisfying enough as a spoiler to keep me interested while not really giving away nothing of the chapter itself, this way I can both have spoilers AND an unspoiled experience when reading the chapter. It's genius!
If you can read me, whoever had this idea in the first place, I thank you.
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I will use this chance to say I love those first page spoilers. It is satisfying enough as a spoiler to keep me interested while not really giving away nothing of the chapter itself, this way I can both have spoilers AND an unspoiled experience when reading the chapter. It's genius!
If you can read me, whoever had this idea in the first place, I thank you.
Completely agree. I have always hated those last page spoilers. They made me steer clear of spoilers for quite some time.
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The thirst is real
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Wouldn't that be considered as "being captured" ?
Well, I guess Pekoms has Access to Zou. He could have taken guys like Tamago with him in order to capture CC (who is missing as well). Who knows what happened?
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I hope we'll see a flashback of the tea Party. It's hard to tell how much time passes in manga, since some chapters only take a few seconds whereas other jump over several days.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
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I will use this chance to say I love those first page spoilers. It is satisfying enough as a spoiler to keep me interested while not really giving away nothing of the chapter itself, this way I can both have spoilers AND an unspoiled experience when reading the chapter. It's genius!
If you can read me, whoever had this idea in the first place, I thank you.
yeah, and also this first page Spoilers leave some room for speculation and discussion until the whole Thing is out.
Back in the days when they released sth like the last page first I was already excited for the chapter after that Spoiler chapter. -
I've belabored this enough, so I don't wanna go too off topic here, but my take on it is this:
It seems like awakened zoans have a default state that resembles their zoan animal rather than their original animal. Most zoans - non-awakened ones - just look like "Some guy," and then can become an animal, hybrid, etc., but the Impel Down demon guards more closely resemble their zoan animals.Chopper's original animal is a reindeer, and his zoan animal is a human. His default mode resembles a little boy, and he lives his life like a human - not like a reindeer. So, in short, my position is this:
Correlation between default mode and awakened status:
Original Animal::Non-Awakened
Zoan Animal:: AwakenedFrom the little we've seen, defaulting to your pre-zoan animal is correlated with not being awakened, and defaulting to something closely resembling your zoan animal is correlated with being awakened. Chopper's default form resembles his zoan animal - which happens to be human - and so I believe he is awakened.
The trick is that he is basically a reverse zoan. Most zoans are humans who, when awakened, resemble their fruit animal. Chopper also resembles his fruit animal, it just happens to be a human. If he was not awakened, his default form would likely more closely resemble a reindeer; just like non-awakened humans who ate zoans are normally humans, a non-awakened reindeer who ate a zoan would normally be a reindeer.
By the way: This would mean that Sengoku, who ate the Buddha model of the human human fruit but defaults to an ordinary human, is not awakened.
Sorry for the late post.
Although it was said in an SBS, it was explained that the fruit is about the part in humans that is about finding your true self. For Chopper, he is willing to become a monster so he can be helpful to Luffy, which manifested in the way his human form changed during the TS (which was never really human in the first place). It can also be seen as Chopper accepting himself as neither human nor reindeer. So from that perspective, awakening would actually be turning into a monster. We'll see.. I think.And I think that Buddha is awakened by default ;)