Smartest One Piece character?

le crystal

One Piece has a lot of lovable idiots, but there are plenty of smart ones too. Who do you think is the smartest?

But then there are various definitions of smartest. It could be measured by different means, like:
Book smarts (as in knowledgeable) I will say Robin and those Ohara historians.
Nami wins her fights through intelligence (and a bit of luck), and her weather knowledge is godly. Sanji is shown to be very smart from the way he saves the day(s) (provided there are no women around).
Franky, CC and Dr Vegapunk are pretty impressive too, but I don't know how to catagorise them.
Luffy can be gasp actually quite clever sometimes during fights, like how he came up with the gears and stuff.
In terms of planning I would leave it blank, because I would answer Crocodile, and he's my favourite character so I am afraid that my judgement will be clouded. :ninja:
Those who discuss power levels here will be chased by psycho tortoises for an eternity.
But seriously, I made this thread to know who people think has the highest intelligence, not highest fighting power in OP, so erm, I hope no power level discussions appear here.

fuzi11

I think Oda once mentioned in some very early SBS that Kuro, Ben Beckham (and maybe Sanji?) are the smartest people. But that was way back in east blue.

Crocodile, Dragon, Vegapunk, Caesar, Robin are all very bright people.

SquallL

Vegapunk, Caesar, Franky, Nami, Beckman, Kuro

Thanos2

Beckman is said to have the highest IQ from East Blue.

Owain

Vegapunk as the most obvious one.

But then you have people who are genius' in their own field- Brook as a musician, for example. Actually, all the Strawhats are geniuses in their own speciality. Sengoku was said to be a military genius too, iirc.

In one of the quite early SBS's Oda said for sure that Beckmann, Kuro then Nami were the smartest of the characters introduced. I think it was round about the start of the Grand Line

Kfunk

Vegapunk, that's a given.

@fuzi11:

I think Oda once mentioned in some very early SBS that Kuro, Ben Beckham (and maybe Sanji?) are the smartest people. But that was way back in east blue.

It was Ben Beckman followed by Kuro and Nami.

Kaptayn

@le:

But seriously, I made this thread to know who people think has the highest intelligence, not highest fighting power in OP, so erm, I hope no power level discussions appear here.

A battle of smartness !!

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Other than the few characters already mentioned, I'd say the Five Elder Stars are very, very intelligent people.

Franky is a lot smarter than he appears. A true genius, that is : managed to integrate lasers in the ultra-futuristic Thousand Sunny, could build Den Den Mushis "like it ain't nothin'", managed to read Vegapunk's works…

Skadi

Dont forget Rayleigh

W A M

beside other characters that was mentioned, I think Roger one of the smartest characters of all time because he find a way to get around his illness and turn the world upside down.

HacheBe

I think Dragon has to be up there because he not only has built an organization strong enough to be a threat to the WG but also make it stay completely hidden. up until the last chapter anyway

KageKageKing

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Tangaroa

Stelly has reappeared and we'll see if he can still be described as a genius. He has managed to win a king-ship.

Sanji's family should be interesting in this way.

Kizaro may have some hidden depths and turn out to be incredibly book-smart. He does work with Vegapunk.

Iceberg seems to have both political and engineering genius.

felton

Other than the mentioned names, I can think of VA Tsuru, also known as Great Staff Officer, she seems like a person full of wisdom and experience,

Skadi

I dont really think Kizaru is even within the 100 smartest characters. He´s just a easily distracted marine admiral who won the superpower lottery and can destroy anything and anyone and you can´t really fight him if you don´t have a decent haki.

Medical Orbit

At first I read this as "Strangest One Piece character".

The smartest in terms of scientific/technological stuff is Vegapunk.
Combat wise, maybe Benn Beckman or Sengoku?
Misc. might be Nami with her weather knowledge.

Btw, can someone reading this make a "Strangest One Piece character" thread? I can't because my account is banned from posting topics, probably because I once made a thread asking if dead people should be allowed to vote.

Kaptayn

@W:

beside other characters that was mentioned, I think Roger one of the smartest characters of all time because he find a way to get around his illness and turn the world upside down.

Well… that was a "good move", but it doesn't make him a genius.

Razh

@Medical:

Btw, can someone reading this make a "Strangest One Piece character" thread? I can't because my account is banned from posting topics, probably because I once made a thread asking if dead people should be allowed to vote.

Did you include a poll?

Also, wtf?

W A M

@Kaptayn:

Well… that was a "good move", but it doesn't make him a genius.

the way i see it it's not just a "move" ,,, the man triggered the great age of pirates and he seems to know what's going to happen exactly, like when he told rayleigh that he isn't going to die!!!

sanji''s_dad

The thread title is smartest one piece character which is obviously Vegapunk since it has been stated that his technology/intelligence is 500 years ahead of the currect people in the world.
@Medical:

At first I read this as "Strangest One Piece character".

The smartest in terms of scientific/technological stuff is Vegapunk.
Combat wise, maybe Benn Beckman or Sengoku?
Misc. might be Nami with her weather knowledge.

Btw, can someone reading this make a "Strangest One Piece character" thread? I can't because my account is banned from posting topics, probably because I once made a thread asking if dead people should be allowed to vote.

Can you not just make a second account and then wait for option to be available to make threads nothing in the rules about making two accounts unless your other account is banned i think lol.

the only reason you would be banned for having two accounts is if you used both of them to vote on a poll i think and like i said you were a former banned user lol.

@Tangaroa:

Stelly has reappeared and we'll see if he can still be described as a genius. He has managed to win a king-ship.

Sanji's family should be interesting in this way.

Kizaro may have some hidden depths and turn out to be incredibly book-smart. He does work with Vegapunk.

Iceberg seems to have both political and engineering genius.

smelly is not smart he just brown nosed the princess and kizaru was just a test subject for vegapunk so that he could give the fake kuma's lazers lol

Nami,Vegapunk,Beckham from shanks crew,ect have stated to be smart.

le crystal

how is smelly smart? That intellectual face of his, I assume?

Kaptayn

@W:

the way i see it it's not just a "move" ,,, the man triggered the great age of pirates and he seems to know what's going to happen exactly, like when he told rayleigh that he isn't going to die!!!

Again, that was a "smart" move but nothing exceptional. All he did was announcing that he has left a great treasure behind him. People believed him, took the sea. That's all.
He isn't going to die because his will would be inherited by this new generation of pirates.

I'd say Stelly is "smart" (even though I HATE that little…), because you don't become king of a country just "like that". Plus, Sabo's parents made him study real hard back in the days, and he was already described as "intelligent" at that time.

King Cannon

Vegapunk. In terms of raw I.Q., there's no one else up to that level.

Everybody else has their own areas expertise, but Vegapunk himself dominates more areas than anyone else.

firelord111

i liked whitebeard vs sengoku war strategy moves

Psycrow

Nobody mentioned Doflamingo? He at least deserves a runner-up somewhere; he's a good strategist, just got overpowered.

firelord111

he lost his strategist title after letting his people go fight others in random

Jabberwok

Does anyone else get the feeling that Killer is pretty smart? Law, with his strategic and medical expertise, deserves some mention too. Hogback too.

Vegapunk obviously takes the top.

Commander Chopper

When it comes to strategic ability, planning of battles+predicting the enemy's actions I put my money on law
When it comes to knowledge i'd say vegapunk

Desperado

@Psycrow:

Nobody mentioned Doflamingo? He at least deserves a runner-up somewhere; he's a good strategist, just got overpowered.

Doffy acted like a complete moron on Dressrosa so unless he wanted to die every move he made was the wrong one.

ARTEMlS

@Desperado:

unless he wanted to die every move he made

Considering he lacked a definite goal, maybe THAT actually was his real goal.

Similar to Kaido who wants to commit suicide in the most epic fashion, Doffy just wanted to get pwned in the most epic fashion ever imaginable.

Psycrow

Yeah… starting with the fake newspaper release, the bait in the Colosseum, and the game to kill all his enemies. Definitely a suicidal guy there! Too bad his suicide attempt didn't work when he took over Dressrosa in the first place, would've saved a lot of time.

le crystal

@Psycrow:

Yeah… starting with the fake newspaper release, the bait in the Colosseum, and the game to kill all his enemies. Definitely a suicidal guy there! Too bad his suicide attempt didn't work when he took over Dressrosa in the first place, would've saved a lot of time.

The fake newspaper release thing was smart, but the Colosseum bait was idiotic. He could at least put a fake mera mera no mi.
His taking over of dressrosa… deserves a pat on the back, I guess? Considering the fact that the Dressrosa citizens had really low IQ or are just sheeple. If your nice guy king suddenly starts asking for money and randomly kill, and then poof a pirate out from nowhere IMMEDIATELY comes to save the day, a person with normal IQ will know something fishy is going on.

I actually like Doffy, but it baffles me when people think he's the smartest arc villain.

Psycrow

Well, he was bound to have already had it by then and figured it'd be useless to Luffy, and would keep his reputation up if someone else won and ate it. The game I was referring to after that was the star-related game, just one of several things he did to try to hang onto control. It was just a little overconfidence on his end that any of his usual tactics would finish Luffy. He did get pretty close, though, and got a lot farther a lot sooner in his schemes than Crocodile did, another shichibukai. Even beyond that he found ways to make money off the SAD/Smiles, weapons, the control of people/toys and tonatta, and auction houses before that. He was pretty successful until Luffy came along. His plan for Law might've worked too, if Law didn't run off with Corazon to try to find a cure early.

uniaka ikuzakas

Vegapunk sounds like a fair bet, aldo it could be that he has a DF that helps him with that. CC should be up there too. Franky too at least in ships and cyborg Technology.

Luffy in terms of battle strategy. Akainu and BB too.

Tangaroa

@sanji''s_dad:

smelly is not smart he just brown nosed the princess and kizaru was just a test subject for vegapunk so that he could give the fake kuma's lazers lol

Nami,Vegapunk,Beckham from shanks crew,ect have stated to be smart.

Stelly was described as a genius as a child. Whether that was hype or remains true is yet to be seen.

Totally unsure about how smart Kizaro is, but guessing that Oda drew him as a child surrounded by books for a reason. Under that distracted aura he might even be able to understand Vegapunk.

Nami, Vegapunk and Beckham have been stated as among the smartest, yes.

le crystal

Knowing Oda, I guess he will make Vegapunk smart in inventing, but dumb at everything else (eg: life skills).

Oda once said that it was Kuro, Beckman and Nami, but that was a really long time ago.

Maju

well if we are talking about the "science" type of smart..i think it's a safe bet to give that to vegapunk since it's basically a title given to him in the manga.
if we are talking about poeple able to use their brain to adapt to various situations and make plans in advance..well we have several and really not that much way to measure..

YoiYoi

Blackbeard, Crocodile, Nami, Robin, Sengoku, Akainu…

Luffy can be a freaking genius at times... Considering he thought of somethings like Gear 2 and Gear 4.

sanji''s_dad

@YoiYoi:

Blackbeard, Crocodile, Nami, Robin, Sengoku, Akainu…

Luffy can be a freaking genius at times... Considering he thought of somethings like Gear 2 and Gear 4.

I think blackbeard is more of a leave it to luck or fate kind of like a gambler and with Oda to make his gambles come true due to plot.

KageKageKing

@le:

Oda once said that it was Kuro, Beckman and Nami, but that was a really long time ago.

Those are the smartest on East Blue.

YoiYoi

@sanji''s_dad:

I think blackbeard is more of a leave it to luck or fate kind of like a gambler and with Oda to make his gambles come true due to plot.

Not true, he schemed the whole Shichibukai thing all the way through Marineford…
Come and think of it, although Blackbeard's crew might seem rough, they're pretty smart... Even Burgess whom most people thought to be a simple-minded guy turned out to be a cunning person (Reminding Sabo of Ace's death so he could lower his guard)

tarigarma

I am surprised there is almost none mention of Sanji. I don't know why I assumed he would be on the smart group, was it not stated at some point that he fights with his brain? or was that way to long ago to be taken seriously now?

hosemisnuba

Vegapunk, Caesar, Robin, Franky, Nami, Kuro, Crocodile, Sengoku, Vegapunk, Galdino, and Beckman I guess.

le crystal

@tarigarma:

I am surprised there is almost none mention of Sanji. I don't know why I assumed he would be on the smart group, was it not stated at some point that he fights with his brain? or was that way to long ago to be taken seriously now?

gazes at the sky
I did mention in my 1st post. But that was the Sanji I once liked, the trying-too-hard-to-be-suave, the badass cook who won't let anyone go hungry, the Mr Prince Sanji. Basically the pre-timeskip Sanji. Not the nosebleed kun, creeper-who-disrespects-his-own-crewmates-body, post-timeskip Sanji. Waiting for the Big Mom saga to bring back the Sanji I once liked so much.

Rukusho

Battle Genius : Luffy and Zoro - Haven't seen others come up with crazy battle styles besides these two.

Book Smarts : Nicro Robin , Orahara Scholars, Nami , Vegapunk and Franky

Overall Intelligence : Kuro , Nami , Benn Beckman, (not sure if Sanji belongs..)

Fraco

@le:

gazes at the sky
I did mention in my 1st post. But that was the Sanji I once liked, the trying-too-hard-to-be-suave, the badass cook who won't let anyone go hungry, the Mr Prince Sanji. Basically the pre-timeskip Sanji. Not the nosebleed kun, creeper-who-disrespects-his-own-crewmates-body, post-timeskip Sanji. Waiting for the Big Mom saga to bring back the Sanji I once liked so much.

nami too, in a very different way, disrespected sanji's body

in any case, idk why basically a stupid joke by oda was taken so seriously by many. i don't think it was intended to offend women rather than exposing post time skip sanji's obsession with girl

HacheBe

@le:

gazes at the sky
I did mention in my 1st post. But that was the Sanji I once liked, the trying-too-hard-to-be-suave, the badass cook who won't let anyone go hungry, the Mr Prince Sanji. Basically the pre-timeskip Sanji. Not the nosebleed kun, creeper-who-disrespects-his-own-crewmates-body, post-timeskip Sanji. Waiting for the Big Mom saga to bring back the Sanji I once liked so much.

I KNOW!! I recently read some pre TS stuff and I forgot how badass Sanji was!

Chrior

@le:

gazes at the sky
I did mention in my 1st post. But that was the Sanji I once liked, the trying-too-hard-to-be-suave, the badass cook who won't let anyone go hungry, the Mr Prince Sanji. Basically the pre-timeskip Sanji. Not the nosebleed kun, creeper-who-disrespects-his-own-crewmates-body, post-timeskip Sanji. Waiting for the Big Mom saga to bring back the Sanji I once liked so much.

I don't disagree with Sanji's change, but I have to correct something. People keep saying that "TS this, TS that, the series is like this or like that since the TS, this character is now whatever since the TS". I don't think the TS changed the series that much. We just had an arc a cut below the average with Fishman Island and a very long arc that tired many people. It could have happened before or after the skip, people have to stop exaggerating its effects on the series already.

In regards to Sanji, he didn't change in the timeskip, his character began the mutation by the end of Water 7 with the bounty poster. By Thriller Bark, he was already this heart eyed, nosebleeding perv (there is even the invisibility frui story and Nami's marriage and all). It all began back then, in 2007, not after the TS in 2010.

LightningAce

@Thanos2:

Beckman is said to have the highest IQ from East Blue.

Highest IQ of all the characters revealed in the East Blue saga. Not from East Blue.

le crystal

@Chrior:

I don't disagree with Sanji's change, but I have to correct something. People keep saying that "TS this, TS that, the series is like this or like that since the TS, this character is now whatever since the TS". I don't think the TS changed the series that much. We just had an arc a cut below the average with Fishman Island and a very long arc that tired many people. It could have happened before or after the skip, people have to stop exaggerating its effects on the series already.

In regards to Sanji, he didn't change in the timeskip, his character began the mutation by the end of Water 7 with the bounty poster. By Thriller Bark, he was already this heart eyed, nosebleeding perv (there is even the invisibility frui story and Nami's marriage and all). It all began back then, in 2007, not after the TS in 2010.

Maybe the choice of my words are wrong… But what I meant to say was Sanji is a man who can be described in various ways: a cook, a tactician, a badass, a fighter, a pervert, a gentleman and much more.
My biggest gripe is that the different sides of him has sort of been sort of sidelined, with his perverted side put on more focus, and being overplayed, especially during the Fishman Island arc and the Punk Hazard arc. I just hope Oda puts the focus on his other aspects as well, not just the pervert aspect.

Yobiyopi

@le:

Maybe the choice of my words are wrong… But what I meant to say was Sanji is a man who can be described in various ways: a cook, a tactician, a badass, a fighter, a pervert, a gentleman and much more.
My biggest gripe is that the different sides of him has sort of been sort of sidelined, with his perverted side put on more focus, and being overplayed, especially during the Fishman Island arc and the Punk Hazard arc. I just hope Oda puts the focus on his other aspects as well, not just the pervert aspect.

It seems that after the TS, all the strawhats sort of pushed a reset button, keeping just the basics of who they were before. It's probably just Oda's way of writing, like he sort of did after every arc in the first half, where each new adventure didn't keep that much from the previous one (but thankfully at least for the arcs it's not like that anymore). So for the new world, it seems that starting with Sanji we will go through the process of knowing more the characters than we did before, but it's a slow process and so Oda has some of them on hold until that point.