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    • Razh
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      @Martine:

      I know that idiot.

      Well your line is awkward/inconclusive. Can't blame me for misunderstanding.

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      Tell me again if you see a damn egg here:
      http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/img1328bearbyp1c2wkt80.jpg

      protip: you won't.

      You're right. I see 2 eggs!

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      Originally Posted by Outerspec

      Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

      It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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        THIS IS AN EGG

        THIS IS NOT:

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          well it might be an enormous egg..but also a polka dotted part of the ship…don't we have another image?

          also..if that is an egg,it occupies a way too big part of the ship

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            @Martine:

            THIS IS AN EGG

            http://www.instituteofmaking.org.uk/images/sized/assets/_files/uploads/640_egg-400x300.jpg

            THIS IS NOT:

            ! http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/609619NOEGG.jpg

            You're showing a picture of egg which is intact.

            On the picture you've helpfully posted, it looks like a cracked egg sitting in a nest of sorts.

            Originally Posted by Outerspec

            Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

            It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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              @Maju:

              well it might be an enormous egg..but also a polka dotted part of the ship…don't we have another image?

              also..if that is an egg,it occupies a way too big part of the ship

              yea here:

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              @Razh:

              On the picture you've helpfully posted, it looks like a cracked egg sitting in a nest of sorts.

              a cracked egg…WOW! This guy actually see a cracked egg on that picture, give that guy a medal!

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                @Martine:

                THIS IS AN EGG

                http://www.instituteofmaking.org.uk/images/sized/assets/_files/uploads/640_egg-400x300.jpg

                THIS IS NOT:

                ! http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/609619NOEGG.jpg

                Wrong. All eggs in One Piece have polka dots in some color on them…

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                  @fana:

                  Great chapter.

                  I'm even more convinced now that they won't have to defeat Jack to save Zunisha and the Minks and that the arc is almost over. 2 or 3 more chapters left IMO before Luffy leaves to meet Sanji.

                  A lot of important info. While I'm excited to see Marco join the fight against Kaidou, I hope he doesn't "steal" a fight against the 3 calamities from the young guys (Zoro, Sanji and maybe Law/Drake).

                  About Momo's line about Roger, I think he's just talking about Ace's visit to Wano. He could have just misunderstood/misheard his father referring to him as Roger's son.

                  Always great to see the Straw Hats praising each other.

                  Finally, I'm really glad that Nami, Chopper and Brook are joining Luffy. I don't mind another crew separation since those three are going with Luffy.
                  I don't think the Tea Party arc will be as small as people think. Not Dressrosa long but probably close to 2 years IMO with at least 2 flashbacks (Sanji's and Jinbe's).

                  My only hope is that the MarimoHats won't have as much adventure as the SwirlyHats to tell Luffy and the others when they meet again in Wano.

                  And one random prediction. I think that Franky will make prosthetic limbs for Inu and Neko.

                  Law is there too. Remember how he "made" limbs for the PH-employees?

                  There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                  But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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                    @Martine:

                    a cracked egg…WOW! This guy actually see a cracked egg on that picture, give that guy a medal!

                    Yes, it looks exactly like egg shells on some straws. A nest.

                    Before you start barking like a dog again, what do you think it is?

                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk like a boss

                    Originally Posted by Outerspec

                    Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                    It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                      @kcity:

                      Wrong. All eggs in One Piece have polka dots in some color on them…

                      I don't know if you are just trolling but in case you are not, you gotta back up your claims with pictures from the manga then. But you can't because there is none.

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                      Yes, it looks exactly like egg shells on a straw.

                      Before you start barking like a dog again, what do you think it is?

                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk like a boss

                      It's just some decorative background.

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                        I'm with Monkey King in Terms of Zoro vs Mihawk. They have almost the same relationship as Luffy/Shanks.
                        But I have to admit a lot of Zoro's opponents almost "made friends" with Zoro after their defeat.
                        Specifically I mean Mr. 1 and Ryuuma.

                        There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                        But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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                          It's common believe it's an egg, tho:

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                            It's common believe it's an egg, tho:

                            ! http://i.imgur.com/Qx9EoSK.jpg

                            no, no. These idiots who made that toy got it all wrong. For god sake, just look at the picture in the manga and it looks nothing like the egg on that toy. You think they called Oda directly and asked him what was that decorative with dots? Of course not. You think he told them"oh! it's just an egg! go ahead! Even if what I drawn look nothing like an egg tho!".

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                              @Martine:

                              no, no. These idiots who made that toy got it all wrong. For god sake, just look at the picture in the manga and it looks nothing like the egg on that toy. You think they called Oda directly and asked him what was that decorative with dots? Of course not. You think he told them"oh! it's just an egg! go ahead! Even if what I drawn look nothing like an egg tho!".

                              You're not going to convince anyone by calling all the people 'idiot'.

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                                @Ukimix:

                                You're not convince anyone by calling all the people 'idiot'.

                                They're not going to read his post here so it does not matter also they speak Japanese so they would not understand him even if they saw his post lol.

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                                  @Ukimix:

                                  You're not going to convince anyone by calling all the people 'idiot'.

                                  which part for you is too hard to understand that the egg on that toy looks nothing like the panel in the manga?

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                                    @Martine:

                                    It's just some decorative background.

                                    That all you got? A decorative background. That's too lame.

                                    To make it completely clear what it looks like to me, I'll give an example.

                                    This is the pic you posted. We have some substance with dots, that stretches on both sides of aft superstructure. Underneath is something that looks like bunch of straws.

                                    !

                                    This is the best image I could find that illustrates what it looks like to me. Just take out the baby and insert baby dragon or whatever the hell it's supposed to be.

                                    !

                                    EDIT: Also, now that I think about it, the image is too blurry to conclude it's not one big egg covered by aft superstructure and rear mast. So maybe the baby dragon hasn't hatched yet after all.

                                    But yeah, decoration! So interesting.

                                    Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                    Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                    It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                      Such a good chapter. What I like the most is the future split of the strawhats. Now the list of all the things that have to get done before the most probable battle against Kaido it's in the end like a bad sign for Jack. It's like he's not going to last much longer, or at least, he'll have to run away again.

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                                        @NateRich:

                                        Just to nitpick, I thought the end would have been better if we didn't know that Jack was intent on attacking Zunisha itself.

                                        Either strategy was possible. This choice made for two dramatic chapter endings consecutively; if Oda had gone the other route, the ending of the previous chapter would have been the beginning of the next chapter, or somewhat more in the middle. So the first problem I run into with the alternative is the lack of tension in the ending of the previous chapter. Secondly, I think Oda wanted us to be able to focus on the tension of Luffy hearing the voice, more-so than also having to wonder what Zunisha is crying about. Of course many would have speculated it to be Jack anyways, but I think Oda wanted us to focus on that aspect.

                                        Also, when will Greg's podcast be exactly and how will I be able to listen to it? Since I'm a European I might not be able to experience it live.

                                        EDIT: I've pretty much been convinced that BB will be the final villain after all, especially in relation to the fluidity of the title of Pirate King and how it is an idea more-so than reaching Raftel and instantly getting that title. Still having some trouble visualising how things will play out, but that is natural.

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                                          Awesome chapter, seems Luffy can understand the elephant like he understood the sea kings and we got people who knew roger who want to talk! Also yay! I was right that the twirly hats are gonna go with Luffy, I hope we get a brook fb. Tonnes of funny gags this week and set up, I really want to see what happened between cat viper and dog storm, also I wonder how the confrontation with jack will go. Omg I was so happy to hear about Marco too. This feels like real progress and Zou is becoming one of my favourite arcs since the time skip.

                                          About predictions for the next arcs, this is all conjecture:

                                          cat and dog will have to work together to fight jack and I think jinbei will show up at the wedding to join the crew, the fi bomb will go off mid ceremony and Lola's card will prevent any major fight with big mom, meaning that she'll let them go this time. I just don't think the tea party will be a super long arc with a yonko fight but Luffy may get a copy of big moms poneglyph. Idk what will happen to sanji but I think we may get a reason for why he won't hit a woman.

                                          Regarding wano its super cool the white beards may join us, this reinforces the assumption that it will be a long arc. I also believe there will be a water 7 like confrontation between Luffy and Zoro over luffy's decision to go after Sanji, somthing bad may happen when he was gone. I think an argument like that will be solved by the end of the arc but Zoro will finally be challenged in wano and he may be shown to have kings haki to further parallel Rayleigh.

                                          Finally I think revive the will occur immediately after wano.

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                                            The fact that the elephants age was mentioned when we first saw it made me think that it had some knowledge of the Void Century or Oda wouldn't have specifically told us the elephants age right off the bat. Luffy hearing it was bound to happen at some point. There must be a story behind that elephant I mean it's practically walking on water.

                                            Momonosuke seemed quite serious when he said he met Roger. Maybe he met Ace since it's known Ace visited Wano Country, someone has already mentioned this theory earlier. I wonder if Momo formed a friendship with Ace somehow, it would certainly make Luffy's will to help Momo even stronger.

                                            Have to say Inuarashi and Nekomamushi are two awesome allies for the Straw Hats. They both know some major characters and know the seas. I wouldn't be surprised if they joined the Straw Hats like they did with the Roger and Whitebeard Pirates. It's good to hear an update on the Whitebeard Pirates, bad to know that they're so fucked up now. Luffy recognising Marco with a pineapple had me laughing. There was some good humour in this chapter.

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                                              I don't know if someone mentioned this before but, do you think that marco or the rest of Whitebeards commanders lost their DF to teach?
                                              maybe someone in teach's crew now has the phoenix DF or joz's DF ?!!

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                                                Guys and Girls, there are 2 eggs on Roger's ship.
                                                It is obviously a bronze statue of Roger's balls ("some big ol' balls!")

                                                No, seriously, I am curious how much sense Momo's talk makes.
                                                It might be connected with his "DF", that egg (maybe Momo hatched from it?), or the fact that he can hear voices.

                                                I thought that Hearing voices was some Luffy/Roger exclusive Thing (except CoO), but Momo ruined that for me. I am really excited how Momo's Story turns out.

                                                There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                                                But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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                                                  Damn, the plot for just this Arc could be the one for THE FREAKING END of the manga !

                                                  I mean… Warriors from a samurai's kingdom + Luffy's crew + Whitebeard's Captains + Minks... Against one single man.
                                                  If Weevil took down 16 captain already, then who is left ? Marco obviously... Maybe Vista? Jozu? Izou ? Fossa ? If that so, it means that only the " weaks " allies of WB were killed, so it's all good.
                                                  I really hope to see Whitebeard's remnants as part of the Alliance, that'd be EPIC !

                                                  I love how Nami is being praised in this chapter, she's part of the crew that's underestimated and not under the spotlights, so it's cool to see that !
                                                  And damn... Oda is a Genius ! We almost all forget that they have to use the Log Pose to set sail... And then again, he introduces something even bigger to justify that they " don't need it " ( matter of speech ) anymore... Love that !

                                                  This Arc is like the Bible of the Ancients.. So much informations on Roger/WB/VoidCentury.. !

                                                  Oh by the way, don't you think Oden just sitched crew just because of his ability, and Whitebeard just didn't want to go to Raftel ? I mean, he only wanted a family, and as Doflamingo said, he choose to bow before Roger, not fight agaisnt him. So, maybe Roger knew Oden was from this clan and all, and Oden decided that Roger was the best choice for him to know what his ancestors did, and why they did that

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                                                    @W:

                                                    I don't know if someone mentioned this before but, do you think that marco or the rest of Whitebeards commanders lost their DF to teach?
                                                    maybe someone in teach's crew now has the phoenix DF or joz's DF ?!!

                                                    Don't know about Jozu, but since we have this plot looking for Marco then he must still have his DF if he is alive.

                                                    The thing is, why didn't BB use this battle they had 1 year ago to steal his DF?

                                                    https://imgur.com/MyjRSWw

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                                                      @Martine:

                                                      LOLOLOL "look I'm a big idiot and I don't understand a single word of the post I quoted".

                                                      Mihawk trained Zoro for 2 years and he will be killed just like Shanks and Usopp's dad.

                                                      This will make the Blackbeard crew fight more than Blackbeard just capturing Ace since he was not the one that killed Ace and Mihawk will ally with Shanks when the warlords lose their titles but you don't know that either since you know nothing you're the same as the kids that post on youtube that only watch amv videos and think they're experts or you have been living under a rock since 2011 lol.

                                                      You have been here since 2011 and you still don't know how to upload a avatar also don't try the i don't want one excuse when you don't know how to get one i am putting you on ignore now so don't bother replying its not worth my time to read anymore of your posts lol.

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                                                        Oh, and please don't confuse the WB/BB war:
                                                        It wasn't BB that attacked the WBs because of their DFs, but Marco and co attacked WB to seek revenge. That war was called "Payback-War" not "Grand DF Theft Auto"-War.

                                                        There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                                                        But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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                                                          Don't know about Jozu, but since we have this plot looking for Marco then he must still have his DF if he is alive.

                                                          The thing is, why didn't BB use this battle they had 1 year ago to steal his DF?

                                                          He couldn't?

                                                          WB pirates probably retreated on time after seeing they were the losing side. At that point they were probably all too aware BB knows how to steal devil fruits. Why give him free presents if there's a chance you can still help defeating him in the future.

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                                                          You have been here since 2011 and you still don't know how to upload a avatar also don't try the i don't want one excuse when you don't know how to get one i am putting you on ignore now so don't bother replying its not worth my time to read anymore of your posts lol.

                                                          Uh, maybe he doesn't feel like having an avatar?

                                                          Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                          Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                          It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                            @Martine:

                                                            I don't know if you are just trolling but in case you are not, you gotta back up your claims with pictures from the manga then. But you can't because there is none.

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                                                            It's just some decorative background.

                                                            You're the one that's trolling and its more than just a easter egg but yeah you''re just a forum troll so who knows what you really think lol.

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                                                              I can see Zoro and Mihawk have a last Little "comparison of power" where both go all out, but it might end with a tie or a Close victory for Zoro. The Person that kills Mihawk in the end will be Shiliew and Zoro will take revenge on him for killing his Mentor, or he will have to defend his title if he has beaten Mihawk.

                                                              There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                                                              But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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                                                                @sanji''s_dad:

                                                                Mihawk trained Zoro for 2 years and he will be killed just like Shanks and Usopp's dad.

                                                                This will make the Blackbeard crew fight more than Blackbeard just capturing Ace since he was not the one that killed Ace and Mihawk will ally with Shanks when the warlords lose their titles but you don't know that either since you know nothing you're the same as the kids that post on youtube that only watch amv videos and think they're experts or you have been living under a rock since 2011 lol.

                                                                You have been here since 2011 and you still don't know how to upload a avatar also don't try the i don't want one excuse when you don't know how to get one i am putting you on ignore now so don't bother replying its not worth my time to read anymore of your posts lol.

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                                                                  @uniaka:

                                                                  Don't know about Jozu, but since we have this plot looking for Marco then he must still have his DF if he is alive.

                                                                  The thing is, why didn't BB use this battle they had 1 year ago to steal his DF?

                                                                  Maybe BB has an Ultra move like Law's eternal life-move that can extract DF even from living People. I don't get it anyway why they put that towel over the dead WB. I am pretty sure Doffy got Ace' fruit from the war when Ace died.
                                                                  We saw it on Panel what happens with DFs once their user died (Smile the Axolotl anyone?).

                                                                  There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                                                                  But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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                                                                    Maybe BB has an Ultra move like Law's eternal life-move that can extract DF even from living People. I don't get it anyway why they put that towel over the dead WB. I am pretty sure Doffy got Ace' fruit from the war when Ace died.
                                                                    We saw it on Panel what happens with DFs once their user died (Smile the Axolotl anyone?).

                                                                    He can stop them using their fruit while they're alive but he has to kill them to steal their fruits. (if he could steal them when the user is alive he could have just stolen whitebeard's fruit when aojiki froze whitebeard)

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                                                                      Uhh, someone correct me if I got this wrong but…

                                                                      The logpose stuff, what did Inurashi meant by saying the journey to the final island on the logpose is now redundant? Is he saying that the final island contains nothing more than information already available on the red Ponyglyphs? If so, why did he tell Nami she is on the right path? I'm getting confused.

                                                                      If that's what he meant, then I'm really disappointed. Part of what made OP a fun manga was running into new and mysterious islands, if the above is true, then we would be stuck trying to steal/copy the Yonkous red ponyglyphs for the foreseeable future instead of going towards new adventures.

                                                                      And I don't like that the crew split up again.

                                                                      Want to see the Colored Manga Chapters in English? Support Snir in his endeavor by DONATING: http://sniraharon.tumblr.com/

                                                                      ONE PIECE DIGITAL-COLORED CHAPTERS IN ENGLISH

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                                                                          Uhh, someone correct me if I got this wrong but…

                                                                          The logpose stuff, what did Inurashi meant by saying the journey to the final island on the logpose is now redundant? Is he saying that the final island contains nothing more that information already available on the red Ponyglyphs? If so, why did he tell Nami she is on the right path? I'm getting confused.

                                                                          If that's what he meant, then I'm really disappointed. Part of what made OP a fun manga was running into new and mysterious islands, if the above is true, then we would be stuck trying to steal/copy the Yonkous red ponyglyphs for the foreseeable future instead of going towards new adventures.

                                                                          And I don't like that the crew split up again.

                                                                          I'm also not sure why Inu said they were on the right path, it seems to clash with the supposed redundancy of the journey to the "last" island.

                                                                          Not sure why you would be so disappointed. Though One Piece is long, it is still fairly condensed considering the amount of things Oda has the potential of working with. The Straw Hats do in three days what takes others three years; if they ever achieve it. Imagine how long One Piece would be if they traveled through each island until the end, then had to backtrack. And then how would they have found Zou? I'm perfectly happy with the way Oda is doing things. He's making it so the Straw Hats can achieve their goals in one journey. We still get to see a lot of the world, and we still have nothing less of that journey experience of seeing more each island. I can understand that you have a bit of a feeling of "oh, so there's nothing at that last island for us… okay...", but you have to admit, before this chapter we didn't even know that "last" island was there; we thought Raftel was the last island. Oda removed the point to that last island before ever even introducing it. So I don't really see how he could have done better. (edit: well this is kind of assuming that there is nothing on that final island anymore. I think not, but who knows, maybe there is still a point to them going there. Wouldn't know what, but we'll have to see.)

                                                                          The crew splitting up allows Oda to resolve many plot points in a shorter timespan. Be glad that the right members are joining Luffy; they will get their spotlights now.

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                                                                            @YoiYoi:

                                                                            Uhh, someone correct me if I got this wrong but…

                                                                            The logpose stuff, what did Inurashi meant by saying the journey to the final island on the logpose is now redundant? Is he saying that the final island contains nothing more than information already available on the red Ponyglyphs? If so, why did he tell Nami she is on the right path? I'm getting confused.

                                                                            If that's what he meant, then I'm really disappointed. Part of what made OP a fun manga was running into new and mysterious islands, if the above is true, then we would be stuck trying to steal/copy the Yonkous red ponyglyphs for the foreseeable future instead of going towards new adventures.

                                                                            And I don't like that the crew split up again.

                                                                            It used to be that way that each Island the log pose locked onto had either a poneglyph of guidance or a poneglyph of truth. Now the way I see it the ROAD poneglyphs are a Special guidance poneglyphs that mark the "X" of raftel. But at one Point of history the road poneglyphes were stolen by the yonkou or have been sunk/hidden/lost.

                                                                            Since Luffy already provoked a fight with both Yonkous nothing much changed except that Luffy is gonna steal BM's poneglyph (I think Luffy is gonna swallow the Stone to smuggle it, he is so clever! 😉)

                                                                            There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                                                                            But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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                                                                              It used to be that way that each Island the log pose locked onto had either a poneglyph of guidance or a poneglyph of truth.

                                                                              What? What is the basis of this statement? I don't recall something like this ever being said. I doubt it's true, since there are many many islands. There wouldn't be that many Poneglyphs.

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                                                                                @Roronoa:

                                                                                It used to be that way that each Island the log pose locked onto had either a poneglyph of guidance or a poneglyph of truth. Now the way I see it the ROAD poneglyphs are a Special guidance poneglyphs that mark the "X" of raftel. But at one Point of history the road poneglyphes were stolen by the yonkou or have been sunk/hidden/lost.

                                                                                Since Luffy already provoked a fight with both Yonkous nothing much changed except that Luffy is gonna steal BM's poneglyph (I think Luffy is gonna swallow the Stone to smuggle it, he is so clever! 😉)

                                                                                I could see the last island having a road poneglyph if Shanks or Blackbeard don't have it on one of their islands since luffy is one of the only people crazy enough to take the entire thing instead of just making a copy of it lol.

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                                                                                  Sorry if this was already asked, but when can we expect more releases from Powermanga?

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                                                                                    Sorry if this was already asked, but when can we expect more releases from Powermanga?

                                                                                    They normally just take longer to post them since they're doing it for free unlike the other manga sites that get money from ads or from people clicking on their stuff

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                                                                                      What? What is the basis of this statement? I don't recall something like this ever being said. I doubt it's true, since there are many many islands. There wouldn't be that many Poneglyphs.

                                                                                      That is what I took from this very chapter (if the trans is OK).
                                                                                      Now the whole "Wano Kuni is isolated" and "not even marines step a foot on Wano Kuni" makes sense and why leaving Wano Kuni is a crime.
                                                                                      I guess the Shogun(s) had an Agreement with the WG, that those Masons must never leave Wano Kuni (otherwise info bout the ancient language would spread) and for Exchange the WG lets Wano Kuni be (Independent and isolated).

                                                                                      There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                                                                                      But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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                                                                                        Don't know about Jozu, but since we have this plot looking for Marco then he must still have his DF if he is alive.

                                                                                        The thing is, why didn't BB use this battle they had 1 year ago to steal his DF?

                                                                                        Jozu will be dead and his fruit stolen the only reason for Marco and some of the whitebeard pirates to be alive is if they ran away or if blackbeard tried to recruit them then they ran away.

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                                                                                          Inu's words:"first you must learn about the mystery of poneglyphes at the place to which all those needles Point." Is he just speaking bout Raftel or any Island the Log Pose locks onto?

                                                                                          There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                                                                                          But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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                                                                                            Oh, and please don't confuse the WB/BB war:
                                                                                            It wasn't BB that attacked the WBs because of their DFs, but Marco and co attacked WB to seek revenge. That war was called "Payback-War" not "Grand DF Theft Auto"-War.

                                                                                            that maybe true but the man sent one of his commanders to snatch ace's "logia" wouldn't he be interested in marco's "mystical zoan" witch is even more rare than a logia when it was in front of him in the payback war, ?!!!

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                                                                                              that maybe true but the man sent one of his commanders to snatch ace's "logia" wouldn't he be interested in marco's "mystical zoan" witch is even more rare than a logia when it was in front of him in the payback war, ?!!!

                                                                                              I don't think all the whitebeard pirates escaped since some were killed for their fruits like jozu and others joined as allies to stay alive but marco must still be alive for weavil and his mom to want to hunt marco down i am guessing marco said he would join blackbeard in exchange for sparing the remaining whitebeard pirates but then ran away with them when blackbeard was not watching or he could have just got away by himself since he can fly.

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                                                                                                that maybe true but the man sent one of his commanders to snatch ace's "logia" wouldn't he be interested in marco's "mystical zoan" witch is even more rare than a logia when it was in front of him in the payback war, ?!!!

                                                                                                Yeah, could be, if he is interested in it, he could have snatched it. He is quite the Opportunist.

                                                                                                OK, so now I got this straight:
                                                                                                At the end of the road, the last Island in the NW you learn bout the mystery of the Poneglyph and the ancient writings, then you gotta find the four Road Poneglyphs to bring you to Raftel. I hope that works now. And since Luffy has Robin in his Crew and already even deciphered the first road poneglyph, the journy to the last isle became redundant. But they can still travel there. Just for fun. Would fit with Luffy IMO.

                                                                                                There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                                                                                                But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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                                                                                                  Maybe BB has an Ultra move like Law's eternal life-move that can extract DF even from living People. I don't get it anyway why they put that towel over the dead WB. I am pretty sure Doffy got Ace' fruit from the war when Ace died.
                                                                                                  We saw it on Panel what happens with DFs once their user died (Smile the Axolotl anyone?).

                                                                                                  Let's say stealing devil fruits doesn't have anything to do with Yami Yami fruit. If that were the case, it would make a lot of sense to hide what they were doing with WB. It would mean anyone could do it if they knew how. Might have been as simple as having a fruit of the corresponding type, shape or size in his pocket. We actually saw on panel how it works on PH.

                                                                                                  And Burgess wanted to kill Luffy and take his fruit without BB around how exactly? He even had that bag on his back, which might have been filled with asortment of fruits.

                                                                                                  Why isn't the knowledge of it spread more widely? I'm guessing whoever finds out about it keeps it a secret. And I don't imagine many devil fruit users died near a crowded fruit market. So the ability transferring to the nearest fruit might not be that easy to pick up by accident.

                                                                                                  If CC knows then Vegapunk should know too, right? And marines as well? I'm guessing parts of the structure do know about it. The ones that need to know anyway. Sensitive information needs to be contained, after all.

                                                                                                  Anyway, at this point, I think stealing fruit doesn't have anything to do with BB's fruit. So, we saw BB hid what he was doing from everyone, we saw how CC recycled DF on PH, we saw Burgess planned to steal Luffy's fruit without BB around. That's enough for me.

                                                                                                  Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                                                                  Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                                                                  It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                                                    There's still stuff to do on the last island, the strawhats(and the readers) just happen to have gotten the big info ahead of time. There's still something relevant to their quest there, or else they'd be told not to bother.
                                                                                                    "They said it was redundant because you're learning something early, but that yes, you should still go there and are on the right path. If Crocus told you to go, he had a good reason and wouldn't lie about it."

                                                                                                    From a narrative standpoint, its good because its setting up the search and objective now, giving an incentive to deal with the emperors… instead of spending the next five or six years having random minor adventures, getting to the last island, and THEN going oh wait, there's still this to do..." It's still on the way and there's still other poneglyphs, but it's not actually Raftel.

                                                                                                    They might think there's something redundant about it, but there absolutely WILL be something special when they get there.

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                                                                                                      I don't think all the whitebeard pirates escaped since some were killed for their fruits like jozu and others joined as allies to stay alive but marco must still be alive for weavil and his mom to want to hunt marco down i am guessing marco said he would join blackbeard in exchange for sparing the remaining whitebeard pirates but then ran away with them when blackbeard was not watching or he could have just got away by himself since he can fly.

                                                                                                      I very much doubt any of that is even remotely true.
                                                                                                      WB Pirates re proud of who they are. None of them would ever ally themselves with BB and betray old man WB in the process. They were fiercely loyal to him, they went into battle against the World government for him.

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                                                                                                        Let's say stealing devil fruits doesn't have anything to do with Yami Yami fruit. If that were the case, it would make a lot of sense to hide what they were doing with WB. It would mean anyone could do it if they knew how. Might have been as simple as having a fruit of the corresponding type, shape or size in his pocket. We actually saw on panel how it works on PH.

                                                                                                        And Burgess wanted to kill Luffy and take his fruit without BB around how exactly? He even had that bag on his back, which might have been filled with asortment of fruits.

                                                                                                        Why isn't the knowledge of it spread more widely? I'm guessing whoever finds out about it keeps it a secret. And I don't imagine many devil fruit users died near a crowded fruit market. So the ability transferring to the nearest fruit might not be that easy to pick up by accident.

                                                                                                        If CC knows then Vegapunk should know too, right? And marines as well? I'm guessing parts of the structure do know about it. The ones that need to know anyway. Sensitive information needs to be contained, after all.

                                                                                                        Anyway, at this point, I think stealing fruit doesn't have anything to do with BB's fruit. So, we saw BB hid what he was doing from everyone, we saw how CC recycled DF on PH, we saw Burgess planned to steal Luffy's fruit without BB around. That's enough for me.

                                                                                                        I am with you there. I also think that stealing WB's fruit didn't Need the Yami Yami no mi.
                                                                                                        The big Question is: If the user dies, does the ability go to the next fruit available? Or was Smiley's case just a big coincidence and a fruit on the other side of the planet could have been "infected" with the ability as well? If the first possibility is the rule, then I can tell how Doffy got his Hands on Ace' DF.

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                                                                                                        I very much doubt any of that is even remotely true.
                                                                                                        WB Pirates re proud of who they are. None of them would ever ally themselves with BB and betray old man WB in the process. They were fiercely loyal to him, they went into battle against the World government for him.

                                                                                                        If any of you wonders how BB could defeat the invincible WBs, how about this:
                                                                                                        BB was a WB-member for DECADES, that means he knows every Division commander inside out. So he also knew about certain weaknesses of each commander.

                                                                                                        There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                                                                                                        But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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