oda fuckin serious? another week off? he needs to lay out the base story, then just walk away so a real artist can keep content comming…... like the anime is dragged out to EXTREME levels as it is.... having a part time manga author will make it even more horrible.
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Wow, what an entitled brat.
oda fuckin serious? another week off? he needs to lay out the base story, then just walk away so a real artist can keep content comming…... like the anime is dragged out to EXTREME levels as it is.... having a part time manga author will make it even more horrible.
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blame obama .
oda fuckin serious? another week off? he needs to lay out the base story, then just walk away so a real artist can keep content comming…... like the anime is dragged out to EXTREME levels as it is.... having a part time manga author will make it even more horrible.
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Give OP to Mashima I say! We'd get double chapters instead of breaks. :ninja:
And maybe (naked) women fighting here and there.
oda fuckin serious? another week off? he needs to lay out the base story, then just walk away so a real artist can keep content comming…... like the anime is dragged out to EXTREME levels as it is.... having a part time manga author will make it even more horrible.
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First of all, I'm laughing that you said "que" like an idiot. You said "annnnd What Oda fanbabies…. Go" just for your information.
He's got his base story laid out, have you seen his notebooks.
He takes breaks because 1) he's got the seniority to do it in the first place 2) he's earned it 3) his art is still exhaustively good 4) this manga has been going for 18 years now and it's still got a long time left 5) he wants to spend time with his family and friends.
He doesn't need to be sentenced to a 30-ish year manga writing prison just to please impatient fanboys like you.
I expect the whole Sanji ordeal to end with a gag situation, I mean it's Sanji, it's Oda, this is how they work. . .but all these moments, so far, seem pretty serious, so I want to believe something deeper is gonna happen. Like, to end it all with a gag AGAIN at Sanji's expense. . .expect it, but don't really want it.
I think the cliffhanger is legit in the sense that I'm totally wondering what's the deal with Sanji (and Brook). Turned to something inanimate, Han Solo style, is what I'd like to envision now: petrified or something like that. Something that's only reversed if you defeat the one that used the technique on them. We know Luffy and co will have to do something about the situation, so there's got to be an option left for them to act in order to save their friends.
This chapter was weird in the sense that not much happened, yet at the same time it was pretty cool in how organic it felt. Dressrosa's arc start was too frantic, with very little time to really set things up, layout and island wise. These first 3 chapters have basically been a huge layout setting: things in this country work like these, they have this forest with a huge whale where you can't get to and is protected by some guardians, this town that was half destroyed, this fortress in the middle of the forest, they use the crocodiles as a transportation means cause they can swim when the rain eruption happens, they have a system to drain the water from the town and get food from it. . .it's like a very organic way of telling how things work in Zou AND, at the same time, slowly tell us what happened a week ago that left the country in tatters.
Props to Oda for the whole Jack build up. From that moment someone in the shadows said "won't it be bad news to call Jack?" up till now, we haven't even seen him, and yet he's been involved in a ton of shit, he's both dealt a lot of damage (that scene where he's torturing ¿Pedro? puts all the destruction in a more personal, cruel light) and been defeated while maintaining a credible threat level (sinking 2 out of 4 marine ships and still being left alive after facing Fuji, Sengoku, Tsuru, Bastille, Maynard and who knows how many captains, commodores and more?). Also, it seems like we can more or less see what he's all about, again, without even seeing his character model.
Definitely hyped for what's going on. Again, it's not the kind of frantic, "oh my god oh shit oh look at that" arc start, it's a more subdued, organic and, overall, different way to set up an arc, but so far, for me, it's working.
oda fuckin serious? another week off? he needs to lay out the base story, then just walk away so a real artist can keep content comming…... like the anime is dragged out to EXTREME levels as it is.... having a part time manga author will make it even more horrible.
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He takes breaks because if he doesn't it will literally kill him.
Literally.
Kill him.
anyone knows where i can take a look at the raws of this chapter?
I expect the whole Sanji ordeal to end with a gag situation, I mean it's Sanji, it's Oda, this is how they work. . .but all these moments, so far, seem pretty serious, so I want to believe something deeper is gonna happen. Like, to end it all with a gag AGAIN at Sanji's expense. . .expect it, but don't really want it.
I think the cliffhanger is legit in the sense that I'm totally wondering what's the deal with Sanji (and Brook). Turned to something inanimate, Han Solo style, is what I'd like to envision now: petrified or something like that. Something that's only reversed if you defeat the one that used the technique on them. We know Luffy and co will have to do something about the situation, so there's got to be an option left for them to act in order to save their friends.
Completely agree with that. I think they're in a state as death, can't come back to "alive" like petrified (Boa Hancok style) or frozen (Kuzan style).
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First of all, I'm laughing that you said "que" like an idiot. You said "annnnd What Oda fanbabies…. Go" just for your information.
He's got his base story laid out, have you seen his notebooks.
He takes breaks because 1) he's got the seniority to do it in the first place 2) he's earned it 3) his art is still exhaustively good 4) this manga has been going for 18 years now and it's still got a long time left 5) he wants to spend time with his family and friends.
He doesn't need to be sentenced to a 30-ish year manga writing prison just to please impatient fanboys like you.
You covered what I could have said, only thing left for me to say =
thank you
Does anyone have an idea about why Carrot bites Luffy's ears like that? Wanda licking him can be understood because dogs show their 'affection' through 'licking'; however, Carrot biting his ears? Do rabbits usually bite each other's ears to show affection or something?
Does anyone have an idea about why Carrot bites Luffy's ears like that? Wanda licking him can be understood because dogs show their 'affection' through 'licking'; however, Carrot biting his ears? Do rabbits usually bite each other's ears to show affection or something?
yes this…i want to understand if its a rabbit related thing or not
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I don't mind reading criticism of a chapter or arc but seriously attacking the author shouldn't have any room in these forums that's plain stupidity.
oda fuckin serious? another week off? he needs to lay out the base story, then just walk away so a real artist can keep content comming…... like the anime is dragged out to EXTREME levels as it is.... having a part time manga author will make it even more horrible.
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shut t f up, brat! Oda-sensei is human too, he needs to rest.
@Chopper:
yes this…i want to understand if its a rabbit related thing or not
This is what I found:
Light little nip's can be how rabbits speak to each other and to you. However, it can also be a sign of aggression.
If you have done nothing to provoke your rabbit into aggressive biting, check to make sure he/she is not scared or in pain.
"Threat biting," or bearing of teeth, occurs when your rabbit wants to show you he/she is mad, but doesn't actually want to hurt you by really biting. My rabbit Flopsy threat-bites when I'm trying to re-hutch her after an exercise period.
Chewing can mean a number of things. If your rabbit is sitting with you and starts chewing your clothing, he/she is either bored or trying to make a nest. If your rabbit is exercising and starts chewing on furniture or boxes, etc he/she is merely trying to wear down his or her teeth. This behavior is similar to a cat's scratching in order to wear down the claws.Love bites is a form of biting that does not mean aggression. Love bites often accompany licking. When a rabbit is licking, it is trying to groom you; the soft biting is the equivalent of trying to pull knots and sticky stuff off your "fur." Rabbits do this to one another and the behavior often rubs off on owners.
Source:
http://www.toomanybunnies.com/understanding-bunny-languag.html
Caesar and Monosuke haven't been around at all, either? I recall Doffy having some orders regarding Monosuke in particular, so I guess the situation is that everyone worth kidnapping was kidnapped. I wish there were relevant bounty hunters in the New World who'd done it, but I'm guessing it's Big Mom / Kaidou.
I think Sanji being some royalty is the way this is building to. It makes sense, that way when the WG does get trounced at some point, there's also good guy royals to replace them.
If mangastream translation is correct, then Sanji is obviously injured. Wanda said in the full page that "prepare to host the friends of our saviors" which means Sanji interfered when Jack was on the island. He manage to fend them off and was also brutally beaten. One thing is clear, the minks did not attack the swirly hats. The frequent sad face of Wanda also confirm this.
We will get a flashback of what happened surely.
Okay, here's what I think happened with the crew and the Jack situation.
Jack razed Zou looking for Caesar Clown, having been tipped off at the Zou drop-point. The Swirly Hats had earlier befriended the locals which in turn attempted to shield them from Jack's. In addition, Jack's methods left gave them no incentive to cooperate aside from the use of torture.
The Swirly Hats were eventually located and the SHs knew they had no hope of defeating them or escaping with Caesar in tow. So Sanji gave himself as they reclaimed Caesar in a desperate effort to keep an eye on CC's whereabouts and keep an eye on Jack's crew. He ordered Chopper & Nami to stay behind and relay the news to the captain once they arrived. Note that both Chopper & Nami are completely unharmed compared to the Zou guardians, so there likely was no fight with Jack's crew. Chopper's ability as a doctor is also probably a strong motive for the decision to leave him on the island after the havoc Jack caused.
Momo is likely taken because he is an unusual zoan type, the artificial DF's power is possibly recognizable, and he is not with Nami or Chopper. Perhaps Caesar Clown himself has plans for him.
Brook's whereabouts are more difficult to determine. He is not with Nami or Chopper after all this time even enough time has passed to have regrouped. I think he is also with Sanji and/or Momo, though he could just be lost on Zou somewhere scaring the crap out of anyone he talk's to asking for directions.
Given how solitary Wano dwellers tend to be, Raizo is likely on the island, but living in a hidden or remote area that none of the minkmen have pinpointed and possibly continuously on the move to avoid detection. It's possible Momo is with him, though it would be hard to imagine that he would not have been introduced to Nami or the other Straw Hats that saved and befriended him. Maybe he abducted Momo believing to have rescued him?
Kinemon's and Kanjuro's continued inability to even get on the island suggests that it may be a while before the Straw Hats are actually able to leave Zou. This is in addition to the the likely presence of Raizo on the island and I doubt the SHs will just ditch Kinemon and Kanjuro on Zou (unless perhaps the samurai insist on it). Either way, the original mission of the Wano group remains unknown, with additional questions as to why they were being pursued on Dressrosa
Yes, there are many hints to a Sanji-centric sidestory from all we got. It may or may not be directly related to the wanted poster, which could be a separate thing that will later dovetail into his current adventure. However, what I doubt is that Sanji would simply allow Caesar to be taken given that he was key to the entire mission he was given. He could be in a coma somewhere on the island, but Chopper & Nami's more relaxed demeanor waiting for Luffy would suggest something less drastic happened. That would also rule out Sanji being forcibly captured alive, in which case they'd still be worried sick over him. Though it could be that they are just being brave in the face of grim circumstances.
He's in vegetative state or being digested by Zou.
Sanji probably chased Jack's group all the way down to their ship, with a bunch of minks cheering on him. Only to get hit by Zou's turd on his way back up, while sky walking.
oda fuckin serious? another week off? he needs to lay out the base story, then just walk away so a real artist can keep content comming…... like the anime is dragged out to EXTREME levels as it is.... having a part time manga author will make it even more horrible.
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oda fuckin serious? another week off? he needs to lay out the base story, then just walk away so a real artist can keep content comming…... like the anime is dragged out to EXTREME levels as it is.... having a part time manga author will make it even more horrible.
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I only see one whining self-important baby here.
I saw Aohige comment so I came in to see what cool new information he was posting or clarifying. Turns out he was just cleaning up some garbage. Time reading not wasted.
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Here is my advice, please try not to read One Piece for 15 years and you'll feel better. Bringing bitterness is bad for you. Doctor's orders
@Mr.:
Momo is likely taken because he is an unusual zoan type, the artificial DF's power is possibly recognizable, and he is not with Nami or Chopper. Perhaps Caesar Clown himself has plans for him.
Given how solitary Wano dwellers tend to be, Raizo is likely on the island, but living in a hidden or remote area that none of the minkmen have pinpointed and possibly continuously on the move to avoid detection. It's possible Momo is with him, though it would be hard to imagine that he would not have been introduced to Nami or the other Straw Hats that saved and befriended him. Maybe he abducted Momo believing to have rescued him?
Kinemon's and Kanjuro's continued inability to even get on the island suggests that it may be a while before the Straw Hats are actually able to leave Zou. This is in addition to the the likely presence of Raizo on the island and I doubt the SHs will just ditch Kinemon and Kanjuro on Zou (unless perhaps the samurai insist on it). Either way, the original mission of the Wano group remains unknown, with additional questions as to why they were being pursued on Dressrosa
It's been very clear that Kaido and Dofla were after Momo since well before he ate the SMILE fruit.
And it's pretty much a sure thing that Raizo is the monkey mink-man currently with Kinemon and Kanjuro on poor Nekozaemon.
I think you are right the three of them will have some difficulty getting back on to the top of Zou but that's more because Raizo has some plt-specific information that Oda doesn't want the others getting just yet.
Sabo got a son, lovely.
@ firelord111, g5 soildier was that supposed to be me?
@ Access timeco, nice thinking, a shame, most of the members in the forum enjoy jumping to conlusions prematurely.
Small chapter was somewhat interesting, but here comes another break. sigh…
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I totally agree with your doctor.
He's been gone for one year.
One Piece has been going for 18 years.Be careful, when you grossly exaggerate something, everything you say becomes completely invalidated.
No, he was gone for all of Amazon Lilly, Impel Down, The WB war, The Sabo Flashback, and He wasnt in the manga until he was introduced. All of that plus the Dressrosa arc and this current arc plus probably a huge rescue arc. That adds up to a HUGE portion of the manga. If you would do the math, Sanji has definitely been gone for well over 1/3 the manga. Seems like he could be absent from 1/2 the manga to me.
Silvers Rayleigh was a real person who coated ships in the New World or on their way to the New World. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Raleigh
Probably just the part of the back above the belly. Sounds more interesting considering the inhabitable area consists mostly of the back. Right Nipple garden or something for example :ninja:
Or butt-cheeks canyon :ninja:
Caesar and Monosuke haven't been around at all, either? I recall Doffy having some orders regarding Monosuke in particular, so I guess the situation is that everyone worth kidnapping was kidnapped. I wish there were relevant bounty hunters in the New World who'd done it, but I'm guessing it's Big Mom / Kaidou.
I think Sanji being some royalty is the way this is building to. It makes sense, that way when the WG does get trounced at some point, there's also good guy royals to replace them.
Oh I think I get it now. Jack kidnapped the three of them and now Luffy has a solid reason to throw up fists? How strong would Jack have to be to take out Sanji off screen? Looking forward to seeing how thinks play out in the land of Zou and praying that it doesn't become another Sky Island. Would be disappointed if Oda doesn't introduce an elephant graveyard that Zou stumbles upon or something.
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@Mr.:
Okay, here's what I think happened with the crew and the Jack situation.
Jack razed Zou looking for Caesar Clown, having been tipped off at the Zou drop-point. The Swirly Hats had earlier befriended the locals which in turn attempted to shield them from Jack's. In addition, Jack's methods left gave them no incentive to cooperate aside from the use of torture.
The Swirly Hats were eventually located and the SHs knew they had no hope of defeating them or escaping with Caesar in tow. So Sanji gave himself as they reclaimed Caesar in a desperate effort to keep an eye on CC's whereabouts and keep an eye on Jack's crew. He ordered Chopper & Nami to stay behind and relay the news to the captain once they arrived. Note that both Chopper & Nami are completely unharmed compared to the Zou guardians, so there likely was no fight with Jack's crew. Chopper's ability as a doctor is also probably a strong motive for the decision to leave him on the island after the havoc Jack caused.
Momo is likely taken because he is an unusual zoan type, the artificial DF's power is possibly recognizable, and he is not with Nami or Chopper. Perhaps Caesar Clown himself has plans for him.
Brook's whereabouts are more difficult to determine. He is not with Nami or Chopper after all this time even enough time has passed to have regrouped. I think he is also with Sanji and/or Momo, though he could just be lost on Zou somewhere scaring the crap out of anyone he talk's to asking for directions.
Given how solitary Wano dwellers tend to be, Raizo is likely on the island, but living in a hidden or remote area that none of the minkmen have pinpointed and possibly continuously on the move to avoid detection. It's possible Momo is with him, though it would be hard to imagine that he would not have been introduced to Nami or the other Straw Hats that saved and befriended him. Maybe he abducted Momo believing to have rescued him?
Kinemon's and Kanjuro's continued inability to even get on the island suggests that it may be a while before the Straw Hats are actually able to leave Zou. This is in addition to the the likely presence of Raizo on the island and I doubt the SHs will just ditch Kinemon and Kanjuro on Zou (unless perhaps the samurai insist on it). Either way, the original mission of the Wano group remains unknown, with additional questions as to why they were being pursued on Dressrosa
Yes, there are many hints to a Sanji-centric sidestory from all we got. It may or may not be directly related to the wanted poster, which could be a separate thing that will later dovetail into his current adventure. However, what I doubt is that Sanji would simply allow Caesar to be taken given that he was key to the entire mission he was given. He could be in a coma somewhere on the island, but Chopper & Nami's more relaxed demeanor waiting for Luffy would suggest something less drastic happened. That would also rule out Sanji being forcibly captured alive, in which case they'd still be worried sick over him. Though it could be that they are just being brave in the face of grim circumstances.
The Strawhats were being attacked by Minks before Luffy and the others arrived. If anything, they only got the Minks' approval after showing that they were willing to do something about Jack.
Oh the troll must be happy, his post was very successful
What I wonder is how the Sanji plot and the samourai one will tie together because I guess Oda won’t delay Momo mistery any longer so they will probably be related somehow.
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@Donkey:
1-The mink getting tortured by jack, looked like Pedro who i think is the chief of mink tribe.
No Pedro is the chief of the guardians. The chief of the minks is probably the giant sheep
This is what I think:
1. Jack and Sanji's current fate are connected.
2. Considering the fact that Jack is badly hurt I assume he may not be the man villain of this arc.
3. The introduction of Weevil may be a foreshadowing that he may be the major character to be taken down esp since he seems to be enroute to find Luffy when we saw him last.
4. Is there any kind of villain(s) on the island currently? If not, then why do the minks seem to be in hiding? And if there are, then who(villains) are they?
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No, he was gone for all of Amazon Lilly, Impel Down, The WB war, The Sabo Flashback, and He wasnt in the manga until he was introduced. All of that plus the Dressrosa arc and this current arc plus probably a huge rescue arc. That adds up to a HUGE portion of the manga. If you would do the math, Sanji has definitely been gone for well over 1/3 the manga. Seems like he could be absent from 1/2 the manga to me.
Every single one of the examples you mentioned applies to the entire crew sans Luffy, except one example where it only applies to HALF the crew.
Subject of whether Sanji is more more or less focused is a relative issue by nature, yet you throw out every and all relativity by using examples that applies to everyone.
I'm sure you know what you're doing and purposely ignoring context to fit your agenda, but I don't see merit in replying or further discussing.
You know all this stuff about what happened to Sanji, Brook, Jack, and the like is interesting, but what stuck out to me the most was the more world-building ascepts; the confirmation that the Eruption Rain was the elephant (Zunisha is apparently her/his/its name) spraying its back and how the Minks use it to live (still doesn't strike me as the smartest place to live), the fact that Minks don't really seem to hate humans (apparently it's a misunderstanding, might have something to do with the past) but some even find them attractive (I thought something was up when Pedro reacted to Wanda licking Luffy last chapter, with this chapter, could it be proof he might be jealous), the fact that there's a ship used as a building in Right Belly Fortress (was this something of the Minks orginally or was it something Zunisha sucked up and released during in an Eruption Rain; might be unimportant, but still it's weird) along with the pineapple structures (cue the theme song), some of the Minks (I want to know the identity of the black sheep).
I'll have to sleep more before I can think about Sanji's faith (obviously, he's not dead).
Hahaha, it'd be the best thing ever if Oda cut to them every few chapters trying to climb the elephant and they finally make it once the arc is over.
Oh man, that would be hilarious. What I think makes it even funnier is that Kanjuro, for some reason, doesn't even think about drawing a bird or something that can fly.
@Daz:
My main takeaway from this chapter is that we still have a shot at not getting Doflamingo redeemed, which pleases me greatly. Now, if we can make it through this arc without CC recieving the Buggy treatment, I'll be a happy man.
In what sense do you mean the "Buggy treatment"?
It's been very clear that Kaido and Dofla were after Momo since well before he ate the SMILE fruit.
And it's pretty much a sure thing that Raizo is the monkey mink-man currently with Kinemon and Kanjuro on poor Nekozaemon.
I think you are right the three of them will have some difficulty getting back on to the top of Zou but that's more because Raizo has some plt-specific information that Oda doesn't want the others getting just yet.
The monkey's name is Bariete, he is not Raizou.
Edit:
One other thing I forgot to add. Why is everyone, at least a week since the attack by Jack, hanging out in Right Belly Fortress, instead of heading back to (what I assume are) their homes in Claw City? Are there still enemies on Zou that they (probably (for story reasons), but whom… other, less friendly Minks, does the suggestion made by Law in the last chapter have a ring of truth in it)?
oda fuckin serious? another week off? he needs to lay out the base story, then just walk away so a real artist can keep content comming…... like the anime is dragged out to EXTREME levels as it is.... having a part time manga author will make it even more horrible.
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Your comment just proves that the movie "Idiocracy" is far from being a fiction.Your avatar endorses this fact even more.
Now please,take your own advice,walk away from internet and let someone that actually knowns smart things to say do this shit for you.
One other thing I forgot to add. Why is everyone, at least a week since the attack by Jack, hanging out in Right Belly Fortress, instead of heading back to (what I assume are) their homes in Claw City? Are there still enemies on Zou that they (probably (for story reasons), but whom… other, less friendly Minks, does the suggestion made by Law in the last chapter have a ring of truth in it)?
After the departure of Jack, they hold a party at the fortress. One week later, the party isn't over. That's the swirlyhats for you.
Every single one of the examples you mentioned applies to the entire crew sans Luffy, except one example where it only applies to HALF the crew.
Subject of whether Sanji is more more or less focused is a relative issue by nature, yet you throw out every and all relativity by using examples that applies to everyone.
I'm sure you know what you're doing and purposely ignoring context to fit your agenda, but I don't see merit in replying or further discussing.
I know what I was doing. I was simply stating that Sanji will have been gone from half of the manga. Just think about how little characters like Brooke, Franky, and Chopper have been around. I think it was very bad that the entire crew was missing for many years. Now half the crew was missing for Dressrosa.
But the fact is, Sanji is a favorite character for many many people and he has not gotten adequate screen time. I think certain characters not part of the SH crew have gotten more manga panels than Brooke, which is just crazy.
So yeah, Aohige I was using that time that the entire crew was gone to prove a point, but i think many people here would have rather have had the crew during that time also. Oda is doing a horrible job of developing the crew. He is focusing way too much on Luffy.
For crying out loud, Sanji hasnt shown any NewKama kenpo moves. The only thing he has shown is a 8 year old technique. It seems Sanji hasnt developed any new moves in 8 years. The fact that he has not won a single fight just proves that point.
What if everyone expects Wano Country to be Zoro's arc and it turns out…Sanji is the long lost prince of the Wano Country?:ninja:
No Wonder WG wants him alive only, so they can get the samurai on their side once Sanji takes his throne:ninja:
No, he was gone for all of Amazon Lilly, Impel Down, The WB war, The Sabo Flashback, and He wasnt in the manga until he was introduced. All of that plus the Dressrosa arc and this current arc plus probably a huge rescue arc. That adds up to a HUGE portion of the manga. If you would do the math, Sanji has definitely been gone for well over 1/3 the manga. Seems like he could be absent from 1/2 the manga to me.
Amazon lily=All crew members except luffy we're missing.
Impel down=same
Sabo flashback=same
And introduction is the same for all characters as well. (Did you expect all characters to be inroduced in the first chapter).
Last few chapters have been nice and slow. We've gotten to see what the civilization looks like, some various parts of the island, how things work (such as how they live with the volcanic rain and use it to their advantage). All stuff that makes the world seem that much bigger and intriguing. The fact that being live in such a strange place and learn to deal with things is quite interesting. Because of the elephant's size, I wonder if it ever blows big and dangerous sea creatures on its back.
A few things that occur to me, the first being the most obvious with something going on with Sanji. First we had Wanda say that the corpses of their crew mates were waiting for them. Since the ones they were talking to seemed like complete strangers, it seems weird that they said their corpses were waiting rather than saying "meet me here and I can take you to where your friends are. I get why Oda is doing this, to make us question what is going on. The main problem is that the part of Wanda saying the corpses are waiting could've been left out, and it would've felt better. She says their friends are waiting, and then when Luffy asks specifically about Sanji Wanda shows a hint of remorse. Then we have the end of this chapter where Nami comes and says sorry about Sanji. That makes things feel so much more real than Wanda making these statements. With so much focus on this, I get the feeling this could lead up to a gag. The three we haven't seen besides Ceasar are the known perverts on the crew. On the other hand, it seems way too much for Oda to simply make it a gag. The problem will still come back to the corpse aspect, as unless there's something really specific behind it, it seems like a poor thing to say when it's obvious about their fates.
The other thing that interests me is how things have been playing out. We come and see that the island has been ravaged by the forces of Jack. Then we see Laws crew and the Minkmen all in bad shape. Then the rest all go into a new area, where they live in fruit shaped tree houses all celebrating the entrance of their benefactors. Chopper and Nami are dressed in different clothes than the last time we saw them as well. Add into the fact we had a little flashback of who we assume is Pedro getting tortured by Jack. There are two things I can see happening, possibly both. First we get a flashback about the prior events, with the Swirly Hats getting a little time to shine and get back ground on what exactly is going on. I can see the Big Mom stuff being glossed over to focus on the Zou stuff. Then there will be something that goes down after the flashback. With the celebration, it seems that the enemies from before are gone. However, I see a possible small antagonist for this arc, Pedro.
Here's my thoughts on the matter of why he could be the antagonist. First of all we saw his look when Wanda was licking Luffy, which to me seemed more ominous and not just jealous. However, we have an idea that perhaps Pedro was tortured, or someone important to him (family?) was tortured and killed. Yes, the straw hats helped chase them off which helped lessen the loss. However, Jack was torturing for information, and with what Pedro went through, he found out that the information that Jack wanted correlates to the Straw Hats. He then gets the idea that the Straw Hats are the reason this all went down and has a grudge against them. He could be related with what happened to Sanji, and could use that to get to the other crew mates to get revenge. Hard to think there will be a different antagonist at this time. Jack is not going to show up for the time being with what happened to him, and I doubt Wevil will be making an appearance this arc. Both are just being built up at the moment for a later time. I could see a small group being with Pedro who believe the Straw Hats are not their heroes, and it will be a small and quick skirmish.
I also wonder when Law will meet the rest of his crew. It seems like it is being put on hold for the current stuff, and in some ways possibly being pushed back intentionally. With Law coming out of his situation alive, with Luffy considering him an ally and not sure what to do now, perhaps the reunion will be a while. Perhaps Law will make a big proclamation to the crew. Not enough to say now, but there is a minute chance of things happening for Law to become a potential crew mate for the straw hats. More likely, Law will become a permanent ally and perhaps seriously join Luffy to fight Kaido, or leave and return at a later time.
So much going on it will be interesting to see what goes down in this arc.
It's also weird to me that the Strawhats are the "mink's saviors" even though Jack was presumably looking for Momo/Caesar, who were brought there by none other than the Strawhats. Seems weird. Was the mink (Pedro?) being tortured oblivious to the fact that the person they were looking for was within the Strawhats? Why didn't he tell Jack where he was? Did he become friends with the Strawhats before Jack arrived and ended up protecting them? It's their fault Zou got invaded. Or was Jack looking for someone else?
there's just so much to be explained and I'm going crazy
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It's also weird to me that the Strawhats are the "mink's saviors" even though Jack was presumably looking for Momo/Caesar, who were brought there by none other than the Strawhats. Seems weird. Was the mink (Pedro?) being tortured oblivious to the fact that the person they were looking for was within the Strawhats? Why didn't he tell Jack where he was? Did he become friends with the Strawhats before Jack arrived and ended up protecting them? It's their fault Zou got invaded. Or was Jack looking for someone else?
there's just so much to be explained and I'm going crazy
momo is still somewhat a possiblity (since they were heading there in the first place)..but jack had no way to know that caesar was going to zou
if anything,we do know there was someone they were searching..2 people in fact,a samurai and a female mink
There's another thing I still don't get. Last chapter, a gloomy Wanda told Usop & co that they would find the "corpses" of their friends at the fortress, plus her "what happened, happened" comment to Carrot. Sure, Nami and Chopper are alive and kickin', but this can't be mere cliffhanger trolling. At least I sure hope it's not, that would be quite cheesy as far as writing goes. It sounds terribly like Minkmen did something to the crew that they're not proud of, not necessarily Jack. Possibly the guardians initially assaulted the Swirlyhats and something regrettable happened, before Sanji & co had a chance to redeem themselves by helping with whatever Jack was doing to the kingdom.
We've seen how Bepo & the rest of Law's crew are more or less in custody under the surveilance of the forest guardians, and how tense their relation to Wanda is. The forest and fortress Minkmen are part of a single Dukedom, but indeed they may not hold the same views on their duty and who or what they can be friendly to.
I really don't know what the outcome will be, but I am feeling that this will lead to a shining moment for Sanji!
He is been gone for the whole past arc and he was alone with half the crew encountering the likes of 2 YONKO (BIG MOM and KAIDO). He is confirmed to had escape from Big Mom and now is connected with JACK (Most likely linked to Kaido).
So I am pretty sure he either did something big during the past couple of days, or he will definitely kick some ass in the upcoming chapters.
Can't wait for it!!!
momo is still somewhat a possiblity (since they were heading there in the first place)..but jack had no way to know that caesar was going to zou
if anything,we do know there was someone they were searching..2 people in fact,a samurai and a female mink
yea that's what I mean: most people seem to think Jack was looking for Momo, but if we go by the minks' reactions to the Strawhats like I've said, it seems the one they were looking for could have been there before the Strawhats - and the only Samurai we know of that isn't with the Strawhats is the Ninja.
What do we know of the Ninja anyway?
yea that's what I mean: most people seem to think Jack was looking for Momo, but if we go by the minks' reactions to the Strawhats like I've said, it seems the one they were looking for could have been there before the Strawhats - and the only Samurai we know of that isn't with the Strawhats is the Ninja.
What do we know of the Ninja anyway?
Momo was supposed to be there before the SH. The samurai group was heading to Zou initially, but they got separated.
What I find weird is: why Zou? Out of all places, why they were going there?
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Momo was supposed to be there before the SH. The samurai group was heading to Zou initially, but they got separated.
What I find weird is: why Zou? Out of all places, why they were going there?
Yes, but that doesn't have anything to do with it, unless the Minks were waiting for the Samurais. I'm using the Minks reaction as a clue, not Jack's purpose.
That's another question, why are they going to Zou? I can't remember and as far as I can, they've been extremely cryptic and enigmatic about it. Kinemon + Kanju are being kept out of Zou for the moment to delay that explanation as well. They could know the mink tribe already, hence why Pedro wanted to protect Momo if that is still who Jack wanted (and not just because he likes the swirlyhats and, therefore, Momo). Again, what do we know about the Ninja?
They had to have some connection with the people there. Zou is not an island, you can't get there through an eternal log pose (and it's not like those things work in New World anyway). The only known way to get there is through vivre card, meaning you have to be friends with someone from there.
Although I suppose one could make vivre cards of Zou itself, since it is a living being…
I wonder what would happen if you uses one of those red laser pencils in those minks.
