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      @King:

      He was looking for Shirahoshi at the time. He could've had used it to find her and ended up discovering Caribou.

      Yes. But AFAIK, the a better translation at chapter release time was indicating that line had an inner 'Emergency emerged!' quality to it. Rather than a 'Scan Start! Virus Found!'

      But yes, he was looking for her at the time. I think it would be nicer if Oda did this for us.

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        @King:

        It's a fighting style not unlike Kin'emon's fire sword or the Chinjao's family vibroattacks.

        Believe me bro, you don't want to get me started on what I consider to be haki…

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          Art is really good, lately. Oda is conveying the emotion of adventuring. I feel like it's Skypiea after Croco all over again.

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            Yes, after a (very bland in my opinion) Alabasta redux now we go back to Skypiea.

            Electric haki or whatever instead of mantra and animal themed but Skypiea all around, jungle ruins and all.

            Its a bit silly that Oda is trying to build drama around half the crew being dead, like anyone is stupid enough to buy that,

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              Oh come on, not the PH door again. Sanji just used the most casual of casual kick of casual. He didn't try any of his fire attacks. Even Diable Jump looks like one of his basic attacks now.

              https://imgur.com/MyjRSWw

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                All dead members can be revive by using Momonosuke DF power, the same way Kin'emon did when he died after Brook broke him. That's why his DF power's so important.

                Dunno, Oda in a recent interview mentioned to dislike revived characters. But hey, everything's possible.

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                  Jack must be one of Level 6 prisoners.

                  As for Swirlyhats - either Minks mistaken people in Strawhats cloths with Strawhats(Strawhats had different cloths when we seen them in chapter 795) as Ussop was asking about what that Minkwoman did to Nami as she has her cloths.

                  Meaning that Minkwoman asked by Ussop about what she did as he has Nami cloths might have assumed that Nami is person from which she took her cloths.

                  This or real Swirlyhats gotten poisoned with Poison that puts people into death-like state and here comes Law.
                  After he cures them we can get to know what happeed since Big Mom ship attacked Sunny. That would work imo

                  With only few chapters this arc or mini arc I see as potentially one of my favourite One Piece parts.
                  It has green and wild scenery, animal themed fighters, it has skypea elements, it has suspense and promise of shining moments for Sanji.
                  It has all what it takes to be amazing for my tastes.

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                    this is the torture of reading One Piece weekly… the answer of previous chapter is not directly found on the next chapter ---_____---"

                    Anyway Zoro seems trusting Sanji a lot. kawaii.

                    They are mates, Luffy trust his mates so Robin and Franky, nothing extra ordinary.

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                      Im thinking , Am i the only on who thought this ? Jack might be the Guy whos using Kaidos name to run his own crew ? Like kaidou is all carefree and wants to die , Maybe Jack is pulling all stings from behind. Like maybe he is the brain behind the Kaidou crew . seeing how Kaidou is a loner and all .

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                        Enjoyable but relatively uneventful chapter. Macabre Robin is always fun. Zoro's repeated confidence in Sanji is also really sweet and I'm really hoping Oda's not setting up to use it as another way to crap on our Swirlybrow.

                        Prediction time:
                        I feel like Carrot is likely a young Guardian-in-training, which reduces the chances of her joining the crew despite her adorableness. In fact, I'm going to go ahead and say no minkman will join because Law already has Bepo.

                        BB and Rody will both go down after only beating mooks. I don't like the term, but they're perfect candidates for jobbers. Pedro will actually hold off/defeat someone before being eclipsed.

                        Aside from the obvious possibility of mistaken identity, the other half of the crew could be victims of a Devil Fruit that freezes them in time or somehow petrifies them. The other option is that something was done that changes their appearance to make them look dead, like some new power of Brook's.

                        If you get dunked on in the dream, you get dunked on in real life

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                          Loving it. A really nice start to the arc with lots on questions to be answered…and the Mink look weird enough. I'm especially liking the Robin we've seen in the last chapters, it really look like Oda is trying to show us her reactions a little more often after having forgotten about her for ages...that's good. About the dead SH I don't know what to expect...

                          The only thing I didn't like is that Jack destroyed this city that has been there for centuries...a little forced. And I wanted to see it before!

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                            Im thinking , Am i the only on who thought this ? Jack might be the Guy whos using Kaidos name to run his own crew ? Like kaidou is all carefree and wants to die , Maybe Jack is pulling all stings from behind. Like maybe he is the brain behind the Kaidou crew . seeing how Kaidou is a loner and all .

                            If there was a mastermind "pulling the strings from behind", I would say that it would be Doflamingo.
                            However, your theory could be true, and maybe Jack and Doflamingo work together to make Kaido fall and then gain power (that would be why Jack tried to rescue him).

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                              Prediction time:
                              I feel like Carrot is likely a young Guardian-in-training, which reduces the chances of her joining the crew despite her adorableness. In fact, I'm going to go ahead and say no minkman will join because Law already has Bepo.

                              Full of lots of Choppers anyway.

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                                The only thing I didn't like is that Jack destroyed this city that has been there for centuries…a little forced. And I wanted to see it before!

                                I feel exactly the same.

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                                  Because he didn't have CoO activated?

                                  People still don't realize Observation is not active 24/7?

                                  So Luffy goes exploring a foreign island and actively fights guys with unknown powers… and doesn't use CoO?
                                  Man in that year and a half he should activate it naturally as part of him fighting... and he was fighting!

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                                    The only thing I didn't like is that Jack destroyed this city that has been there for centuries…a little forced. And I wanted to see it before!

                                    A little forced, bcause…

                                    Oda didn't want to portray a historical full-sized working city...

                                    or

                                    Jack is someone powerful enough to destroy a city that's been there for centuries?

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                                      But if he [Jack] destroyed everything, how come there aren't any corpses ?

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                                        A little forced, bcause…

                                        Oda didn't want to portray a historical full-sized working city...

                                        or

                                        Jack is someone powerful enough to destroy a city that's been there for centuries?

                                        Well, is more like…well if it stood there for centuries you would expect it to handle even the greatest warriors...but then a random guy (strong indeed, but I don't think he's stronger then Kaido, WB, BigMom, Blackbeard, Shanks, Akainu, Mihawk, etc.) comes by and destroys it...

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                                        But if he [Jack] destroyed everything, how come there aren't any corpses ?

                                        Also interesting…they couldn't have buried them so...mabe he took them with him?

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                                          @omy785:

                                          Well, is more like…well if it stood there for centuries you would expect it to handle even the greatest warriors...but then a random guy (strong indeed, but I don't think he's stronger then Kaido, BigMom, Blackbeard, Shanks, Akainu, Mihawk, etc.) comes by and destroys it...
                                          ?

                                          Being on Zou is a natural protection

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                                            So Luffy goes exploring a foreign island and actively fights guys with unknown powers… and doesn't use CoO?
                                            Man in that year and a half he should activate it naturally as part of him fighting... and he was fighting!

                                            I feel like it's more likely that the minkmen have some sort of technique of hiding from CoO. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some cloaking technique that explains Burgess safely stowing away too.

                                            If you get dunked on in the dream, you get dunked on in real life

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                                              So minkmen are all furries after all. Can't say I'm too happy about it, but it's not like I haven't seen it coming.

                                              And Jack? Had a feeling he might be here, but there are too many questions since he was hunting for Dofla. I guess the real question is if he's even on Zou now. Maybe he will return even if he isn't? And if this is just to hype him as future villain, who will be the big bad of Zou?

                                              Sucks that Swirlies were offpaneled. Oh well, now Luffy has to find new crewmen!

                                              Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                              Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                              It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                Also interesting…they couldn't have buried them so...mabe he took them with him?

                                                Maybe they need Minkmen to create the Zoan-Smiles ?

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                                                  Im thinking , Am i the only on who thought this ? Jack might be the Guy whos using Kaidos name to run his own crew ? Like kaidou is all carefree and wants to die , Maybe Jack is pulling all stings from behind. Like maybe he is the brain behind the Kaidou crew . seeing how Kaidou is a loner and all .

                                                  That's a really interesting theory, although then it doesn't make sense why X-Drake and friends were so afraid of telling Kaido that Doflamingo had been defeated (if Kaido is so carefree and wasn't planning a giant war/arms race).

                                                  Been reading One Piece since 2002 - first release in Denmark.

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                                                    About CoO, Rayleigh did stated that people tend to develop more one of them (CoA and CoO). We know Luffy can use all of them, but maybe his CoO is not that developed (yet) and considering the fact he hadn't activated it, it's normal for him not to have felt the presences around him, though it would have been awesome if he said he knew just how many of them were surrounding him.

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                                                      @SirCaesar:

                                                      So Luffy goes exploring a foreign island and actively fights guys with unknown powers… and doesn't use CoO?
                                                      Man in that year and a half he should activate it naturally as part of him fighting... and he was fighting!

                                                      Luffy is a carefree guy. And he likes being surprised. I mean, remember when Luffy threw a fit when Usopp tried to ask Rayleigh about where One Piece was?

                                                      Heck, he ran off leaving the others behind. He's definitely not a logical, careful person. Compare with Zoro, who used CoO to detect Carrot because he's a more observant fellow.

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                                                      So minkmen are all furries after all. Can't say I'm too happy about it, but it's not like I haven't seen it coming.

                                                      You found this out now?

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                                                        @King:

                                                        You found this out now?

                                                        It was confirmed beyond any doubt in this chapter. Don't be such a douche.

                                                        Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                        Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                        It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                          Early Mangastream

                                                          http://readms.com/r/one_piece/805/3007/1

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                                                            @Razh:

                                                            It was confirmed beyond any doubt in this chapter. Don't be such a douche.

                                                            I would think Law saying "Mink Tribe" in the last chapter would've been enough, but whatever.

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                                                              I wonder if Beppo used to be a slave. He left Zou when still a little kid and is unlikely a mink family would just try their lives somewhere else seeing how reclusive the race is. And since he only met Law 10 years ago, there is a blank period.

                                                              Regarding Jack, the only thing bothering me is how fast this guy seem to travel. He managed to intercept the ships taking Doflamingo, did whatever he did there and still got to Zou before Luffy's group could be there? And it doesn't look like he just arrived, it's more like it's been a few days since he came to Zou.

                                                              And Pedro seem to be jealous of Luffy for getting Wanda's attention.

                                                              Also… any guess on the new cover story?

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                                                                @King:

                                                                I would think Law saying "Mink Tribe" in the last chapter would've been enough, but whatever.

                                                                This chapter just seals the deal, what with seeing what males look like and Law saying Bepo was one of them. Sure, we saw the monkey last chapter, but it wasn't really a clear image. (Or maybe I was just in denial 👅)

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                                                                I wonder if Beppo used to be a slave. He left Zou when still a little kid and is unlikely a mink family would just try their lives somewhere else seeing how reclusive the race is. And since he only met Law 10 years ago, there is a blank period.

                                                                Regarding Jack, the only thing bothering me is how fast this guy seem to travel. He managed to intercept the ships taking Doflamingo, did whatever he did there and still got to Zou before Luffy's group could be there? And it doesn't look like he just arrived, it's more like it's been a few days since he came to Zou.

                                                                And Pedro seem to be jealous of Luffy for getting Wanda's attention.

                                                                Also… any guess on the new cover story?

                                                                What, if I understood correctly, Jack trashed the place 2 weeks ago, which would have been before we saw him go after Dofla.

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                                                                It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                  yeah..don't understand why though..i though it as some kind of mark..but then she talks directly to basically every guardian..so the mark seems unnecessary

                                                                  Pedro looked quite annoyed when he saw that, so he must be found of her secretely

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                                                                    Regarding Jack, the only thing bothering me is how fast this guy seem to travel. He managed to intercept the ships taking Doflamingo, did whatever he did there and still got to Zou before Luffy's group could be there? And it doesn't look like he just arrived, it's more like it's been a few days since he came to Zou.

                                                                    Aohige explained this. Unless he can time travel, he thrashed Zou before going after Doula.

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                                                                      The thing is that Jack won't be the enemy of the arc since he supposedly left and went after Dofla…

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                                                                        The thing is that Jack won't be the enemy of the arc since he supposedly left and went after Dofla…

                                                                        Unless he comes back to check up on those guys he left on Zou.

                                                                        Him snagging Dofla from that team seemed unlikely anyway.

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                                                                          Weird to say this, but "Wanda" feels like such a strange name to me. Maybe though that's because the first thing that comes to mind whenever I hear it is either "Fairy Oddparents" or a 1950's dinner waitress.

                                                                          Also, so Wanda is a "Dog Mink". Dogs are friends. Dogs are love. Dogs are life. It'd be funny to see if she has any stereotypical "dog traits" like going to fetch something, or running around before laying down, or maybe even "tummy rubs/leg twitches".

                                                                          I'd wager that she does, given how all of the other minkmen seem to have stereotypical traits associated with their animal.

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                                                                          Any reason for the lick here? lol

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                                                                            I wonder if Beppo used to be a slave. He left Zou when still a little kid and is unlikely a mink family would just try their lives somewhere else seeing how reclusive the race is. And since he only met Law 10 years ago, there is a blank period.

                                                                            I hope not. We had enough slave stories already: Shabondy, Amazon Lilly, Fishman Island. Can't Beppo just be adventureous. Or maybe he fell of the elephant, when he was a kid. 10 years ago Law was 16, so he probably just met Beppo on one of his journeys while planning revenge on Doflamingo.

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                                                                              Okay, so is it a fluttery cloth that isn't red that Wanda threw at Roddy or a red cloth? Aohige said it's a red cloth, and it's a common misconception that bulls are enraged by the color red when it's actually the fluttery movements of the cloths used in bullfights that makes them mad.

                                                                              Thanks in advance!

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                                                                                Nice read, so Minks are just talking animals with human bodies some people were correct about this. I always thought Bepop was Vc but he's a navigator. So laws crew is only 4 people ? Pretty small group.

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                                                                                Believe me bro, you don't want to get me started on what I consider to be haki…

                                                                                You got me intrigued RamistaR I'd like to know what you consider haki

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                                                                                  I hope not. We had enough slave stories already: Shabondy, Amazon Lilly, Fishman Island. Can't Beppo just be adventureous. Or maybe he fell of the elephant, when he was a kid. 10 years ago Law was 16, so he probably just met Beppo on one of his journeys while planning revenge on Doflamingo.

                                                                                  But chances are he was caught by the poachers to make money. Minkmen were on the Auction House price list. We don't know when Dofla opened/took over Auction House, but we know that slavery predates him.

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                                                                                    Maybe they need Minkmen to create the Zoan-Smiles ?

                                                                                    That could make sense. Especially when you think about Chopper's brief discussion with Ceasar in chapter 795.

                                                                                    "Now I'm living out here on the beach, but those seagulls are still out of reach."

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                                                                                      if jack really left zou already, who do you think would be the villain in this arc?

                                                                                      what are the chance for jack to be destroyed by the marines, get mad about it, and decided to go back to zou and torture the minks again? (luffy will stop him this time tho)

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                                                                                        Question: How did Jack make it to Zou before the strawhats?

                                                                                        Tsuru was on Dressrosa when the strawhats left, then she was next seen escorting Doflamingo to impel Down. Given impel down is on the other side of the red line and the straw hats are moving towards the end of the new world wouldn't that escort ship be heading away from zou? Jack was shown preparing to attack the escort ship and free doflamingo, then next we hear that he has already destroyed a city/village on zou. How the heck did he get there so fast, and why would he even be there? Law had a vivre card pointing him to zou and it's supposedly hard to find. None of this makes sense to me :wassat:

                                                                                        Also given that Jack is probably uninjured(he's wrecking Zou) I see one of three possibilities being true.
                                                                                        1. He completely annihilated tsuru and crew -easily- and rescued Doflamingo. This could mean Tsuru is dead. 😊
                                                                                        2. He got cold feet, and didn't try to save doflamingo. (unlikely at best)
                                                                                        3. He used some sort of sneak attack to "get in and get out" with doflamingo - avoiding much of the confrontation with Tsuru.

                                                                                        Given that Tsuru is a long standing Marine Vet of slighty lesser repute than Garp I highly doubt Jack would have mopped the floor with her. But if he did.. wow. This'll really put Luffy's post time skip power level in perspective. I can't seem to picture Tsuru not putting up a good fight though, so i think #3 is most likely.

                                                                                        Can't really see any likely scenario in which Doflamingo hasn't escaped..

                                                                                        "If I get reincarnated…. I wanna become a clam."

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                                                                                          It feels better to read a nice translation man….
                                                                                          Between Wanda sure of what she was saying about the Sanji and co, the guardians that looks strong enough for Luffy to not notice them and that Jack that destroyed the whole city with the help of big animals, i wonder what really happened when Luffy was on dressrosa...
                                                                                          I don't think Sanji and co died, utter nonsense, but if they were put to sleep as if they died, may be? also Kaidou is known for having beasts in his crew right? so for now Zoro and Co don't know about it and think there is a part of the mink tribe responsible for this....

                                                                                          I'm laughing at those that said this arc is boring😆

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                                                                                            Pedro looked quite annoyed when he saw that, so he must be found of her secretely

                                                                                            It could be that mink tribe hate humans.

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                                                                                            The thing is that Jack won't be the enemy of the arc since he supposedly left and went after Dofla…

                                                                                            Jack figthing Fujitora & co is like a way to say: "Ey, Jack is not the villian of this arc". But then, who might be?

                                                                                            I guess an implication is that Jack or someone above Sheep-sama fought Sanji and the others. Too many misteries there…

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                                                                                              Question: How did Jack make it to Zou before the strawhats?

                                                                                              Tsuru was on Dressrosa when the strawhats left, then she was next seen escorting Doflamingo to impel Down. Given impel down is on the other side of the red line and the straw hats are moving towards the end of the new world wouldn't that escort ship be heading away from zou? Jack was shown preparing to attack the escort ship and free doflamingo, then next we hear that he has already destroyed a city/village on zou. How the heck did he get there so fast, and why would he even be there? Law had a vivre card pointing him to zou and it's supposedly hard to find. None of this makes sense to me :wassat:

                                                                                              Also given that Jack is probably uninjured(he's wrecking Zou) I see one of three possibilities being true.
                                                                                              1. He completely annihilated tsuru and crew -easily- and rescued Doflamingo. This could mean Tsuru is dead. 😊
                                                                                              2. He got cold feet, and didn't try to save doflamingo. (unlikely at best)
                                                                                              3. He used some sort of sneak attack to "get in and get out" with doflamingo - avoiding much of the confrontation with Tsuru.

                                                                                              Given that Tsuru is a long standing Marine Vet of slighty lesser repute than Garp I highly doubt Jack would have mopped the floor with her. But if he did.. wow. This'll really put Luffy's post time skip power level in perspective. I can't seem to picture Tsuru not putting up a good fight though, so i think #3 is most likely.

                                                                                              Can't really see any likely scenario in which Doflamingo hasn't escaped..

                                                                                              Again, he attacked Zou before he was shown going after Dofla.

                                                                                              And it wasn't just Tsuru, Sengoku and Fuji were there too.

                                                                                              And I imagine Jack might come back to Zou, seeing how he left a part of his crew there, Sheepshead and others, who I assume Mink tribe are fighting on a regular basis. Bepo, JB and those other 2 were covered in bandages.

                                                                                              Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                                                              Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                                                              It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                                                Hi, Aohige.
                                                                                                Could you tell me the exact kanji used for the chapter title?

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                                                                                                  @Joy_Boy's_Will:

                                                                                                  Question: How did Jack make it to Zou before the strawhats?

                                                                                                  Tsuru was on Dressrosa when the strawhats left, then she was next seen escorting Doflamingo to impel Down. Given impel down is on the other side of the red line and the straw hats are moving towards the end of the new world wouldn't that escort ship be heading away from zou? Jack was shown preparing to attack the escort ship and free doflamingo, then next we hear that he has already destroyed a city/village on zou. How the heck did he get there so fast, and why would he even be there? Law had a vivre card pointing him to zou and it's supposedly hard to find. None of this makes sense to me :wassat:

                                                                                                  Also given that Jack is probably uninjured(he's wrecking Zou) I see one of three possibilities being true.
                                                                                                  1. He completely annihilated tsuru and crew -easily- and rescued Doflamingo. This could mean Tsuru is dead. 😊
                                                                                                  2. He got cold feet, and didn't try to save doflamingo. (unlikely at best)
                                                                                                  3. He used some sort of sneak attack to "get in and get out" with doflamingo - avoiding much of the confrontation with Tsuru.

                                                                                                  Given that Tsuru is a long standing Marine Vet of slighty lesser repute than Garp I highly doubt Jack would have mopped the floor with her. But if he did.. wow. This'll really put Luffy's post time skip power level in perspective. I can't seem to picture Tsuru not putting up a good fight though, so i think #3 is most likely.

                                                                                                  Can't really see any likely scenario in which Doflamingo hasn't escaped..

                                                                                                  I'm getting Emperor's New Groove vibes from this:

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                                                                                                    @Ukimix:

                                                                                                    Jack figthing Fujitora & co is like a way to say: "Ey, Jack is not the villian of this arc". But then, who might be?

                                                                                                    I guess an implication is that Jack or someone above Sheep-sama fought Sanji and the others. Too many misteries there…

                                                                                                    Maybe it's just an unknown devil fruit. Some kind of petrification or something. Doubt it's some native insect (like a tsetse fly) because the natives would know about it.

                                                                                                    Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                                                                    Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                                                                    It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                                                      @King:

                                                                                                      Aohige explained this. Unless he can time travel, he thrashed Zou before going after Doula.

                                                                                                      Weird to think the man behind Mokomo "destruction" will not be around during Mokomo's arc to be confronted by Luffy, though.

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                                                                                                        Weird to think the man behind Mokomo "destruction" will not be around during Mokomo's arc to be confronted by Luffy, though.

                                                                                                        The arc has only just begun. And since Jack left some of his men there, he might also come back.

                                                                                                        I imagine he heard the news about Dofla before he could finish the job and had to leave in haste. I'd say the question isn't will he come back, but when.

                                                                                                        Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                                                                        Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                                                                        It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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