Was chaining for a shiny female Salandit and it took me two male ones before I got my girl.
I hate those gender only evolutions lol
Out of curiosity what was your method? And how long did it take? I've been going back and forth on trying but as I understand you can either use Cute Charm to bolster the odds of females appearing or you can use Synchronize to aim for a specific nature, but not both. So odds are highly against finding a solid one, even worse than by breeding.
Wasn't going for natures. Just used my shiny hunting Smeargle.
When I want to use a Shiny competitively I'll breed them.
Got the first male after 64 encounters, the 2nd after about 80 (didn't really count) and the female after 109 SOS encounters.
So about 300 encounters for three shinies
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Okay, so I've got a twenty-win streak going in the Battle Tree, the fartherest I've ever gotten, and have lucked out with Grimsley being the cameo boss both times. I'm sweating like that Goofy gif, because I know the other shoe is going to drop any second now, and it's going to drop hard.
What are you guys using for your battle tree runs? I've heard of dragonite-aegislash combos working but i don't think it's easy when you're just starting out without any good items (no life orb, choice items, power items for training) so i'm relegated to doing stupid things like running the team that i used for story mode.
What are you guys using for your battle tree runs? I've heard of dragonite-aegislash combos working but i don't think it's easy when you're just starting out without any good items (no life orb, choice items, power items for training) so i'm relegated to doing stupid things like running the team that i used for story mode.
You can get a life-orb on Resolution Cave, as for the battle tree I used Tapus and ultra-beasts on it after EV-train then on Poke pelago.
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Well that was interesting. I just encountered a Battle Tree team whose gimmick involved the first two members, Gigalith and Bronzong, suicide bombing me with Explosion. Dude's third creature was an Ursaring, leading me to half-wonder if the bear was going to blow up too.
What are you guys using for your battle tree runs? I've heard of dragonite-aegislash combos working but i don't think it's easy when you're just starting out without any good items (no life orb, choice items, power items for training) so i'm relegated to doing stupid things like running the team that i used for story mode.
My team consists of a Mimikyu with a Lum Berry and the moves Play Rough, Swords Dance, Shadow Claw and Shadow Sneak… and honestly the rest of the team is pretty much just there to back it up in the rare case that my opponent manages to KO it. But my other two Pokémon in singles are a Moxie Gyarados equipped with a Life Orb (Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Waterfall and Ice Fang) and Tapu Fini equipped with Leftovers (Aqua Ring, Surf, Moonblast and Calm Mind). Has worked pretty great for me simply because Mimikyu is amazing and Gyarados has always pulled weight for me.
What are you guys using for your battle tree runs? I've heard of dragonite-aegislash combos working but i don't think it's easy when you're just starting out without any good items (no life orb, choice items, power items for training) so i'm relegated to doing stupid things like running the team that i used for story mode.
I laid out my team and strategy in significant detail in this post and I feel like in general after playing it so much I can give constructive advice if you need it or are struggling in a particular way. Let me know.
My team consists of a Mimikyu with a Lum Berry and the moves Play Rough, Swords Dance, Shadow Claw and Shadow Sneak… and honestly the rest of the team is pretty much just there to back it up in the rare case that my opponent manages to KO it. But my other two Pokémon in singles are a Moxie Gyarados equipped with a Life Orb (Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Waterfall and Ice Fang) and Tapu Fini equipped with Leftovers (Aqua Ring, Surf, Moonblast and Calm Mind). Has worked pretty great for me simply because Mimikyu is amazing and Gyarados has always pulled weight for me.
I'm honestly surprised Mimikyu is pulling that much weight for you. The Lum Berry definitely helps if they decide to burn/paralyze you, for one turn at least, but from my experience running a max-speed max-attack Jolly Mimikyu (with Life Orb to boost damage), there are plenty of things that I can't outspeed and/or OHKO (or even 2HKO) even after Swords Dance (running the exact same moveset as you). Like, it works miracles to finish off teams with problematic opposing sweepers and the like, but Mimikyu itself is not a reliable sweeper in the Battle Tree. But yeah, I have definitely been screwed over by status effects so for that your strategy adds some consistency, just at the expense of damage that I find crucial.
Foolio mimikyu works better with adamant nature and investing fully in Hp and then attack and sp. Def or Full HP and attack.
On another note finally got my shiny dewpider after 2300ish eggs and to finish the troll the it got bad attack stats :(. I am glad there is hyper training in this gen.
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Foolio mimikyu works better with adamant nature and investing fully in Hp and then attack and sp. Def or Full HP and attack.
On another note finally got my shiny dewpider after 2300ish eggs and to finish the troll the it got bad attack stats :(. I am glad there is hyper training in this gen.
Works better for what? I've done plenty of research into Mimikyu and the different competitive builds. Offensive builds (not meant for stall/tank) pretty much run Adamant or Jolly, depending on personal preference and how it fits in a team really, with full EV investment in Speed and Attack. I think by far the most popular choice is Red Card for the item, but honestly that didn't meld well with my Battle Tree priority, which was to quickly dispatch fast/high-offense foes, not force them out and risk having to deal with them again later. To that end I wanted my Mimikyu to outspeed as much as possible and I went with Life Orb which way more than makes up for the difference in attack from forgoing Adamant. I still am likely to KO multiple things with no issue, but there are enough threats out there to stop it from being a consistent sweep strategy, and bulky steel types are in particular a huge pain.
Why run HP investment on an Adamant Mimikyu? That boy's not there to take hits, it's there to set up and revenge kill.
HP investment makes sense if you want a bulky mimikyu for some reason, but if so then the nature and moveset should reflect this focus. Adamant with bulk won't be eating the hits it could otherwise and it won't be killing the things it would otherwise.
The problem with mimikyu comes with it's really low hp after disguise is gone you are sure to die after 1 hit. So investing in hp and giving it Sitrus berry gives chance to survive more. While jolly nature is good with the sword dance you ain't gettting a set up that will guarantee your win since you are still really frail. Well the way I see it extra power from adamant nature and durability to take 3 hits instead of 2 gives you more advantage. Besides the 96 base speed is already high. Well that's the way I see it.
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The problem with mimikyu comes with it's really low hp after disguise is gone you are sure to die after 1 hit. So investing in hp and giving it Sitrus berry gives chance to survive more. While jolly nature is good with the sword dance you ain't gettting a set up that will guarantee your win since you are still really frail. Well the way I see it extra power from adamant nature and durability to take 3 hits instead of 2 gives you more advantage. Besides the 96 base speed is already high. Well that's the way I see it.
Thing is that overall you should be expecting Mimikyu to die after a post-disguise hit. Sure, the typing is pretty good defensively and 105 Sp Def is not bad, but 55 hp is atrocious and its defense is nothing to write home about.
It also doesn't help that half the meta is going to be running either poison jab or stuff like iron head or heavy slam.
Life Orb adamant should be dishing out enough damage after one SD to where you should not need to do a second swords dance, so needing to set up two of those is really kinda overkill. If one post-swords dance shadow claw/play rough is not enough, then that means you're dealing with a stall mon you should probably not be dealing with using Mimikyu. Stuff like Scizor.
And then there's the thing to where your set up means you have to use up the item slot for a Sitrus Berry, where you could just Life Orb and kill things faster. Or you could Red Card to remove sweepers. Or you could Ghostium-Z to really punch a hole in someone's defense. Or you could Lum Berry to avoid status. All better options than Sitrus Berry on a mon that shouldn't be counted on to take hits.
Regarding speed, no speed investment means you have a problem dealing with a lot of faster mons that can screw you over before you touch them. For example, being able to hit stuff like Arcanine before you get burned is extremely important. I think currently in the meta the most common cause for Jolly Mimikyu is Tapu Lele with psychic terrain. Jolly means you outspeed a Timid Tapu Lele and kill it with Shadow Claw before it kills you.
Don't know if I can give examples in terms of battle tree though, since in there it's near impossible to know what sort of magically convenient investment the enemy mons have made. But depending on their investment, it's truly nice to be able to outspeed something like Garchomp or Salamence or Sharpedo or Rotom or Porygon-Z… basically, lots of mons that if you let them set up and cannot kill them first, you're gonna have a bad time.
I don't think pumping a little more HP into it is going to make any significant difference against actual threats, and you're sacrificing any offensive help for a berry… it makes no sense to me. If anything go Careful in that case, because only partially committing to offense or longevity just doesn't seem viable at all for Mimikyu... it's not exactly a rounded pokémon. The real threats I want it to neutralize are things that hit hard (via powering up or not) and things that tend to outspeed my team, and pretty much all of those are going to one-shot Mimikyu regardless. The build you are suggesting would get destroyed by most of what my Mimikyu is meant to counter. One thing I was losing to in the Battle Tree for example was Porygon-Z, and that will still outspeed your Mimikyu if you forgo Speed EVs because the Battle Tree opponents as well as any reasonable player will deck that thing out with speed. Salazzle is another one I keep bringing up but it's frail enough to die in one attack after Mimikyu's disguise tanks a hit, regardless of EVs and such. Alternatively I think it dies to SD Shadow Sneak too, so you can still set up on it.
At any rate I can see the logic you're going for Haros but in practice I doubt it will really work, and coming from the perspective of both getting my ass kicked in the Battle Tree until I figured it out and in loosely following the competitive sets out there, I think I'm doing the right thing.
A thought occurs that instead of HP investment, invest on speed and give it substitute.
Outspeeding someone means you get to set up a substitute and give yourself an extra turn, and you get to see whether the opponent is going all out to break your disguise or opting for status/switch/set-up.
If they go for status or switch out, they're boned. If they go for set-up, you now have two free turns to set up yourself or set-up once and then hit hard twice.
My only huge problem with this is probably having to sacrifice shadow claw or shadow sneak to free up the slot for substitute.
Wasn't going for natures. Just used my shiny hunting Smeargle.
When I want to use a Shiny competitively I'll breed them.Got the first male after 64 encounters, the 2nd after about 80 (didn't really count) and the female after 109 SOS encounters.
So about 300 encounters for three shinies
What the heck. I chained for a shiny rockruff for about 3 days. I lost track of how many encounters along the way and started just tracking groups of 10 but it had to be a ridiculous amount and never got one.
Do you have the Shiny Charm?
Anyway I got a shiny Poliwag earlier with the wrong ability (I needed the hidden ability) and got pretty pissed about that, so I started using the Magikarp "exploit" to mitigate those cases. You can breed Magikarps, saving every so often, and when you find a shiny you just reload the game and swap Magikarp with something good, and the same egg will still hatch a shiny. At first this seemed kind of dumb and only a marginal possible time save (since Magikarps hatch extremely quickly)… but my wasted shiny is a perfect example of why it's not. Because, since I didn't roll the hidden ability, I could have just swapped it for a different pokémon where I don't even want the hidden ability (say, Dewpider) and bam, I got something I wanted anyway. Note that you can also do this for Salazzle since if you hatch a female shiny you can replace it with a Salandit and you have 1/4 chance of it still being female. If not, no biggie, make something else shiny.
But yeah I just got another shiny and got my desired Poliwag by swapping, so I can confirm it works perfectly.
With that in mind my current goal is to breed a set of perfect parents to swap in as needed. I still need another shiny hidden ability Poliwag (because yes I'm crazy and I want a shiny Poliwrath with Swift Swim and a shiny Politoed with Drizzle), so for that attempt I want other possible shinies ready to go. Live and learn I guess.
All these talk about shines and I'm just wondering when I'm getting Bank.
…wait, I beat the game! I can still get that gizmo fairy mon, right?
I'm honestly surprised Mimikyu is pulling that much weight for you. The Lum Berry definitely helps if they decide to burn/paralyze you, for one turn at least, but from my experience running a max-speed max-attack Jolly Mimikyu (with Life Orb to boost damage), there are plenty of things that I can't outspeed and/or OHKO (or even 2HKO) even after Swords Dance (running the exact same moveset as you). Like, it works miracles to finish off teams with problematic opposing sweepers and the like, but Mimikyu itself is not a reliable sweeper in the Battle Tree. But yeah, I have definitely been screwed over by status effects so for that your strategy adds some consistency, just at the expense of damage that I find crucial.
I actually EV-trained it under the mistaken assumption that its base Speed was really low, so I just maxed its Attack and split the rest evenly between Defense and Special Defense. Still manages to outspeed a fair amount of things on my end. That said, I should note that the Battle Tree has pretty consistently screwed me over once I get past 20 battles, so it's hardly unstoppable. And against actual human players I reckon it'd be pretty much useless. But it has swept quite a few teams in the Tree and is easily the most effective means of farming BP I've found so far. Another thing I should point out is that the CPU tends to be really dumb at times and try to use stuff like Calm Mind on the first turn or two, thus letting me set up multiple Swords Dances without any danger. And I get hit with Swagger a lot too, to which I basically just go "Thanks for the free boost" and counter with a Shadow Sneak.
…wait, I beat the game! I can still get that gizmo fairy mon, right?
Magearna? Yeah, just Google the QR code. As far as I know, it has no expiration date.
I actually EV-trained it under the mistaken assumption that its base Speed was really low, so I just maxed its Attack and split the rest evenly between Defense and Special Defense. Still manages to outspeed a fair amount of things on my end. That said, I should note that the Battle Tree has pretty consistently screwed me over once I get past 20 battles, so it's hardly unstoppable. And against actual human players I reckon it'd be pretty much useless. But it has swept quite a few teams in the Tree and is easily the most effective means of farming BP I've found so far. Another thing I should point out is that the CPU tends to be really dumb at times and try to use stuff like Calm Mind on the first turn or two, thus letting me set up multiple Swords Dances without any danger. And I get hit with Swagger a lot too, to which I basically just go "Thanks for the free boost" and counter with a Shadow Sneak.
Ah, thanks for the explanation. That makes sense. I think after spending all that time in the Battle Tree trying to reach 50, I automatically judge teams / setups on whether they're actually viable to survive 50 consecutive RNG hax battles. It certainly helps for BP farming to make it to the 20s often, but why not try a team that could potentially could go further? Like I have only retried a few times since breaking 50 but the team I used would most often lose in the 40s, sometimes in the 30s but not too often, and almost never in the 20s or below (if anything it would be to very bad luck on the guest appearances in battle 20 or 30). It definitely feels good once you're making 5+ BP per win.
I would also like to point out that it's not just about toughing it out long enough to survive bad RNG. I mean for one there's the trial-and-error experience of knowing how to handle various situations and opponents. But the battles actually do get noticeably harder as you progress. It becomes pretty apparent over time, in several ways. The most obvious is probably that mega evolutions start happening way more often. I'm not sure they happen at all before 30, other than the guest battles and even then not always. A lot of those can be super hard to consistently deal with. I think I mentioned some stuff earlier like Mega Lucario, Mega Charizard Y, Mega Gallade, and Mega Lopunny… those are just a few that gave me trouble at different points, but there are plenty more that may be a pain given your setup. Especially after 40 there's no shortage of crap like Mega Tyranitar, Mega Garchomp, Mega Kangaskhan, Mega Gengar, Mega Swampert, Mega Pinsir, Mega Aerodactyl, Mega Blaziken, Mega Abomasnow, Mega Absol, you name it.
But also, and probably more importantly, the enemy movesets as well as the AI behavior improve significantly. All those dumb power-ups people do to let you Swords Dance mostly stop in favor of status moves or hard damage, and in general things I usually dispatch easily early on in the ladder start using moves or strategies that legitimately threaten me. Sometimes it's surprisingly annoying stall mons, with enough foresight to have been set up with a Baton Pass even. Sometimes it's someone stealing my Leftovers and replacing it with a Flame Orb. Mostly what gets me is when they unleash constant brutal moves that usually have a downside like a massive attack drop but that carry enough momentum to cripple. Stuff like Overheat. Whereas my Xurkitree usually easily KOs Arcanine early on because it uses Sunny Day or some other mediocre attack, later on it will just mercilessly spam Overheat. Mega Lucario will spam Close Combat (seriously fuck Mega Lucario, that's one thing Mimikyu can counter thank god).
Well that was quite some rambling but yeah I guess my point is don't assume a team that can make it to 20 wins can necessarily make it to 40 or 50 wins.
It certainly helps for BP farming to make it to the 20s often, but why not try a team that could potentially could go further?
Simple: I'm not that good at this yet. I mean I try to keep things somewhat balanced but there's just so much stuff to keep in mind that I haven't fully gotten the hang of yet. I mean, before getting that Mimikyu and my Moxie Gyarados I could barely even manage five wins in the regular Singles challenge, so just the fact that I've now got access to Super Singles/Doubles and can actually build up a 20 win streak there is already an immense improvement. Making it to 40 or 50? I have literally never been able to pull that off. Thankfully at least this game doesn't seem to actually lock you out of content unless you can manage 50 straight wins, unlike ORAS and their hidden bonus battle with Wally (whose Pokémon still weren't at lv100 apparently meaning that this bonus battle would be a lot less challenging than the insane streak required to reach it due to it being possible to just outlevel him.)
Hey that's cool, I was a total noob before I tried the Battle Tree (hell I still am). Like I definitely did not appreciate any of the intricacies of stats (both mine and my opponents'), items, switch-ins, setting up and priority movies, etc. I started off just purely trying to cheese it (well technically I started off trying a subset of my in-game team but that was a disaster). I'd heard Xurkitree was pretty good with Tapu Koko in doubles so I tried some mangled version of that, with pretty limited success. In particular I would get destroyed by fast Earthquake spammers, until I think Noqanky actually was the one who suggested I try Celesteela for that. Which turned out to be a spectacular pick not only due to Ground immunity but bulk and stall capabilities. But at that time I was still using Lucha Tigre (Incineroar) as my 3rd, and I was still getting shut down every now and then by fast, powerful sweepers. That's when I switched in Mimikyu, not as a lead or a sweeper but as a contingency. Then I was finally able to actually reach 50, though not without still struggling.
What the heck. I chained for a shiny rockruff for about 3 days. I lost track of how many encounters along the way and started just tracking groups of 10 but it had to be a ridiculous amount and never got one.
The higher the chain the higher the probability of a shiny.
But I was extremely lucky nonetheless.
And no, I don't have the shiny charm yet
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The higher the chain the higher the probability of a shiny.
But I was extremely lucky nonetheless.
And no, I don't have the shiny charm yet
Yes, I know the higher the chain. And mine must have been well over 300 by the time I gave up, possibly much higher.
Do you have the Shiny Charm?
Nope, still pacing with other people who don't have time to play. Not even through the game yet, and not fretting about getting the complete dex until after the bank opens since I have everything from before.
But everyone else seems to be able to shiny chain around the 50-80 mark. I lost track of how long I chained while things called for help, but every 15 I'd kill the original so it wouldn't run out of moves, and I did that for a couple hours off and on for a couple of days. Once I was 100 in I just felt "Well, Ive already invested this much time and the chain must be at its highest potential" but….
I just wanted a blue rock dog to go through the game with. Post game I don't care at all.
Rockruffs are especially annoying since they're only in the one spot, and at that level they always have sand attack which is accuracy lowering. So you end up having to switch your own monsters out constantly as well.
If frustrated with chaining I'd suggest Masuda. Shouldn't be tough to get a foreign pup somewhere and the daycare is in Akala pretty close after the point at which you can get Rockruff. You can also control for natures this way since I think you can get Everstones from Roggenrola.
Yes, I know the higher the chain. And mine must have been well over 300 by the time I gave up, possibly much higher.
Actually, from what I understand the chain caps out at… 250, I think? So once you go past that, you're essentially back at square one. On the other hand, the chances of getting a shiny already hit the highest they're gonna be at, like, 70, so you would be operating at maximum chance a lot of the time anyway.
I have to say people on GTS are pretty generous when you state that you want to fill the Dex.
Just need Porygon 2 and Porygon Z to complete the Dex.
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Yeah, the GTS came in handy big time. I was able to get a second Type Null, and two extra Cosmogs for evolving.
I have to say people on GTS are pretty generous when you state that you want to fill the Dex.
Just need Porygon 2 and Porygon Z to complete the Dex.
Do you still need those? Because I believe I can supply at least one of them.
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Just got both.
A Porygon 2 for a Salamence and a Porygon Z for Porygon 2.
Now I have all the entries and can get the Shiny Charm and start for competitive breeding.
But thanks 
I got some jolly rough skin gible if anyone is interested. Just started breeding them so don't have perfect ones yet
I've gotten like 20 of those on Wonder Trade lol, mostly Japanese. Everyone in the world wants a Garchomp apparently.
I've gotten like 20 of those on Wonder Trade lol, mostly Japanese. Everyone in the world wants a Garchomp apparently.
The only ones I was getting on wonder trade were sand veil ones hehe
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Randomly came across a shiny Exeggute a few days ago!
The only ones I was getting on wonder trade were sand veil ones hehe
That's true, most of them have Sand Veil. I know I've gotten Rough Skin ones though, but now that I think about it I wonder if I didn't accidentally throw them away. That would be dumb since even though I have no real plans of using one I'd like to have it tucked away.
Finally got myself Fomantis with Contrary. Surprisingly it only took a chain of less than 10, and all I had to do was keep spamming Growl with my Dartrix until one of them got its Attack boosted.
Encountered a shiny Ditto while I was hunting for 4 IV ones.
After a chain of 23 the blue blob appeared
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A friggin over 50 chain encounter to finally catch my shiny Grubbin, but worth it.
A friggin over 50 chain encounter to finally catch my shiny Grubbin, but worth it.
Unless that's a typo and you mean 500 otherwise that's a really low chain
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So I actually hatched a 6-IV shiny yesterday. Will probably never happen again but it's exciting. After much deliberation I swapped in Dewpider since it can benefit from both types of attack (though actually mine is running min speed so the speed IV is technically a detriment). I might have done Poliwag if it had been born with hidden ability, but alas. Still this swapping method has spared me from hatching another useless shiny, thank god. If I had hatched a 6-IV shiny Poliwag with the wrong ability I would have raged.
I've also been having crazy luck with Wonder Trade some nights. At times all I ever get is Abra, Magikarp and Yungoos… but I have gotten some pretty good stuff. I got a perfect Turtonator for example, with all the right IVs, nature, ability and egg moves. I also got a 5-IV shiny foreign ditto, which I don't even think was hacked because it was still level 27 and had a shitty nature and no hidden ability. Then last night I got a shiny 6-IV Passimian in a Beast Ball with the right nature and egg moves, and it came with a Gold Bottle Cap attached. I'm pretty sure that one is hacked, but shit I'll probably raise it anyway. It's not like I asked for hacked stuff. That said I did snipe a couple level 100 Dittos off GTS, which I doubt people would put up if they weren't cloned/hacked. But hey I got them via legit methods <_< and one of them was actually hilarious because it had been hyper trained in all 6 stats haha, as if that actually helps. But I'm not even mad because it came with a Lucky Egg.
Finally got myself Fomantis with Contrary. Surprisingly it only took a chain of less than 10, and all I had to do was keep spamming Growl with my Dartrix until one of them got its Attack boosted.
Nice. I have one too that I was planning to raise but despite fun gimmicks its stats just didn't justify using one over other things, like it's outclassed in virtually every way by Tsareena if you look at stats. The speed in particular hurts. It also kind of relies on Leaf Storm but that's a special attack move =/. Personally I resigned myself to using Alolan Exeggutor for Grass.
Encountered a shiny Ditto while I was hunting for 4 IV ones.
After a chain of 23 the blue blob appeared
That's pretty fast. After getting the Shiny Charm I did two separate chains of 50+ and at that point I was seeing ones with Impostor left and right but never did see a shiny. So I just caught a couple of Impostor ones. Luckily they both had 4 IVs (that collectively cover all 6 stats) and really good natures (Adamant and Jolly).
Unless that's a typo and you mean 500 otherwise that's a really low chain
From what I've been hearing from various people it actually seems fairly average to find them from the 50-100 mark (at least with Shiny Charm). One day Noqanky caught two shiny Ribombees within the span of a couple hours while just chaining them to level up her team, and I believe the chains were at most at 20 both times. Though I'll admit there must have been some ribombulous luck involved to find two in the same day with such low chains.
From what I've been hearing from various people it actually seems fairly average to find them from the 50-100 mark (at least with Shiny Charm). One day Noqanky caught two shiny Ribombees within the span of a couple hours while just chaining them to level up her team, and I believe the chains were at most at 20 both times. Though I'll admit there must have been some ribombulous luck involved to find two in the same day with such low chains.
The first one was actually around the fourth Ribombee to appear, third to be summoned by SoS. Second one was from 15 to 20.
Of note is that before any of this I already had a shiny ribombee that I hatched within like 20 eggs pre-shiny charm. Which means that so far I've stumbled into 3 shiny ribombee, which is still two less than the amount of shiny vulpix I've hatched.
=3
From what I've been hearing from various people it actually seems fairly average to find them from the 50-100 mark (at least with Shiny Charm). One day Noqanky caught two shiny Ribombees within the span of a couple hours while just chaining them to level up her team, and I believe the chains were at most at 20 both times. Though I'll admit there must have been some ribombulous luck involved to find two in the same day with such low chains.
Foolio i based my repply on the way the original sentence was typed. 'A friggin over 50 chain encounter to finally' I've got 2 shinies at encounter less than 20 also when i was ev training some pokes :o.
Yes, I know the higher the chain. And mine must have been well over 300 by the time I gave up, possibly much higher.
Got 22 shinies using S.O.S method so far and the shiny charm makes a huge difference on the encounter rate. Before the shiny charm i got around 8 shinies and 6/8 were at chains over 250(most off them on second/third tries because i used to run out of PP) only 2/6 were at chaings around 100-120. But even with shiny charm the stats are still against you 1/683 after 70 encounters is just too much.
Well i got 2 shiny rockruffs and i can give you one of them if you want.
@Noqanky:
The first one was actually around the fourth Ribombee to appear, third to be summoned by SoS. Second one was from 15 to 20.
Of note is that before any of this I already had a shiny ribombee that I hatched within like 20 eggs pre-shiny charm. Which means that so far I've stumbled into 3 shiny ribombee, which is still two less than the amount of shiny vulpix I've hatched.
=3
Why so many hatched vulpix 
I hatched only 1 shiny vulpix it got 5 IV perfect spread and wrong ability :sad:
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Why so many hatched vulpix
I hatched only 1 shiny vulpix it got 5 IV perfect spread and wrong ability :sad:
Pretty much insanity.
First one I hatched rather quickly. But then I decided I wanted one with freeze-dry and encore, so then I hatched a second one… which had snow cloak @_@. So I had to keep going until I got a modest snow warning with all egg moves I wanted.
Fast-forward to 2017, and I realized there's no more shinies I really plan on doing, so figured I'd do another shiny vulpix with Timid. But then cue a snow cloak one instead of snow warning, and the numbers go up again.
Huh, seems like it's actually 4 at the moment and hatching for a 5th.
Got 22 shinies using S.O.S method so far and the shiny charm makes a huge difference on the encounter rate.
I'm sure it does. I'll worry about getting that after the bank opens. As is still have a chunk of the main game to go through because been busy and also waiting for other people.
Well i got 2 shiny rockruffs and i can give you one of them if you want.
That would be awesome! I don't have much of interest to trade in return at the moment, but I can probably find something.
I'm sure it does. I'll worry about getting that after the bank opens. As is still have a chunk of the main game to go through because been busy and also waiting for other people.
That would be awesome! I don't have much of interest to trade in return at the moment, but I can probably find something.
nah i dont need anything just place a caterpie for rockruff on gts and i will trade it just tell me your gn and when its up
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nah i dont need anything just place a caterpie for rockruff on gts and i will trade it just tell me your gn and when its up
Thank you very much! Enjoy the Nebby and whatever legend you turn it into!
I don't even bother chaining intentionally for shinies because if I'm going through the time and trouble then I want it to be perfect (right ability and nature, and as close to perfect IVs as possible). That's why using Magikarps as placeholders is really nice. If you get an unlucky roll you have flexibility. I'm just hoping I get the right gender role for Salandit on one of these.
Ditto is the only real exception since you know, they can't be bred.
Thank you very much! Enjoy the Nebby and whatever legend you turn it into!
you are welcome. Nebby will just stay as Nebby for the living dex :O.
I don't even bother chaining intentionally for shinies because if I'm going through the time and trouble then I want it to be perfect (right ability and nature, and as close to perfect IVs as possible). That's why using Magikarps as placeholders is really nice. If you get an unlucky roll you have flexibility. I'm just hoping I get the right gender role for Salandit on one of these.
Ditto is the only real exception since you know, they can't be bred.
Foolio not all shinies are for competitive battling or even battling for that matter :D.
Foolio use the togepi line(togetic or togekiss) as intermediate to aim for that female salandit. You have the same m/f ratio but the hatching of eggs is slightly slower than magikarp but still fast enough 2560 steps.
The problem with that is that developing a perfect parent for the Togepi line is significantly more annoying, given that Togepi that hatch count as baby pokemon and as a result are unable to breed, meaning he'd have to happiness evolve togepi babies until obtaining an ideal parent.
As for competitive shinies, even though I don't actually battle much I like the ability to be able to have competitive pokemon so that if I want to make the choice to battle with my pokemon the option is there already. If there's a shiny I really like (ninetales, ampharos) it's really nice to be able to use it and make it as perfect as I can.
You can also use every starter, fosil, eevee or snorlax.
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