Yeah, usually you want Adamant, Timid, Jolly or Modest.
Defensive mons might want to shore up their weaker defense with the unused attack.
Trick room teams want something from the last collumn.
Mixed attackers are the only ones who could dare to sacrifice defenses.
I don't think anyone uses neutral natures.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nature#Stat-focused_table
That's…kinda disappointing (tension getting legendary is cool), but convenient all the same.
(PS. I will trade whatever for Cockroach Moon Goddess)
They aren't supposed to be legendaries I think, they are just pokemon from a different dimension, they have the same base stats as this region "trio"(the Tapus are actually 4) though so I'm not sure about where they stand, they are allowed in VGC, but once again the trios are also allowed since they don't have crazy stats.
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I'm curious, I always have to look up on what each nature boosts, but a lot of you can easily go "okay Modest is shit, Jolly, that's what I want!" in five seconds. How?
And usually I can remember these minor details, lol
Once you read set ups all over the place and watch things like YouTube videos on people playing competitive battles and creating competitive sets, the more recurring natures kinda begin seeping into your memory.
The real impressive feat is when people can look at a mon and immediately guess their possible nature, item and moveset based on how the meta works.
Or the people who know those things from how much damage they deal and recieve.
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My tapus are all hot garbage. All my legendaries have their 3 free "best" and a bunch of decent and even "no good" that seems like is the current "0".
I'll give it a shoot for the UBs, this won't do at all.
My current Battle Tree strat is paying some dividends. I gave my Xurkitree 252 SpAtk/252 Spd, Electrium Z, open with Z-thunderbolt when possible, and accumulate SpAtk boosts. Sometimes I get knocked out by a fast earthquake, and def need to come up with some good supports, but the thing makes for an easy sweeper at the tree if you just want some points.
I'm looking for a Pheremosa with some decent nature/IV (Attack-based) if anyone's got one to spare. I know that's a tall order, and I don't have much to give besides my own spare legends, but I'd even be willing to spare a golden bottlecap for one if somebody wants.
Edit: Making clear that the bottle cap is for a good natured and/or IVed one. I know Moon dudes get like 4 of them in their games, so there's a lot to go around. I'd be willing to trade off a Kartana for any old Pheremosa, but I'm mostly looking for a good one to cheese with.
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Wow, the final battle with Guzma was intense! Golisopod was still beastly and it and Masquerain did a lot of damage to my team, so I had to hit the Z-move panic button to take that thing out. I only won thanks to Starmie tanking an X-Scissor from Pinsir with 1 HP left and Scald burning it (my last Pokemon was Lurantis, which would've been slaughtered).
Since I fought him at twilight, seeing the sky start at orange with stars during the pre-fight cutscene, fade to purple/orange during the battle itself, then be completely purple afterwards as the sun set was a really cool effect.
I never had to do this so I can't personally confirm, but I read many people saying that's false. You just have to leave the ruins and re-enter them.
Hmm. I can confirm with Koko at the very least. I revisited the shrine immediately after the credits since I knocked it out, then proceeded to knock it out again to atleast confirm for myself it was a re-fightable thing. But anytime I interacted with the shrine afterwards, the stone didn't give off any reaction. And this was after coming back a week after knocking him out the second time.
The stone did initiate the fight after I did the E4, though. So I'm assuming it was either that, or something else that caused it to respawn.
I defeated Tapu Koko in the first fight as well due to a lack of PokéBalls, the only things I've done since then is fight Anabel and visit Ms. Wicke and Tapu Koko does reappear for me if I touch the stone.
My current Battle Tree strat is paying some dividends. I gave my Xurkitree 252 SpAtk/252 Spd, Electrium Z, open with Z-thunderbolt when possible, and accumulate SpAtk boosts. Sometimes I get knocked out by a fast earthquake, and def need to come up with some good supports, but the thing makes for an easy sweeper at the tree if you just want some points.
I'm looking for a Pheremosa with some decent nature/IV (Attack-based) if anyone's got one to spare. I know that's a tall order, and I don't have much to give besides my own spare legends, but I'd even be willing to spare a golden bottlecap for one if somebody wants.
Edit: Making clear that the bottle cap is for a good natured and/or IVed one. I know Moon dudes get like 4 of them in their games, so there's a lot to go around. I'd be willing to trade off a Kartana for any old Pheremosa, but I'm mostly looking for a good one to cheese with.
I heard Tapu Koko + Xurkitree is a doubles combo that completely wrecks, have you tried that? Even in singles, since Koko leads to set up electric terrain, then Volt Switch into Xurkitree and spam Discharge or whatnot. I think if they are using something immune or resistant (like Ground) you swap into something different like Tapu Bulu.
I don't have a spare trained Pheremosa to give you but do want that golden cap @_@.
My current Battle Tree strat is paying some dividends. I gave my Xurkitree 252 SpAtk/252 Spd, Electrium Z, open with Z-thunderbolt when possible, and accumulate SpAtk boosts. Sometimes I get knocked out by a fast earthquake, and def need to come up with some good supports, but the thing makes for an easy sweeper at the tree if you just want some points.
I'm looking for a Pheremosa with some decent nature/IV (Attack-based) if anyone's got one to spare. I know that's a tall order, and I don't have much to give besides my own spare legends, but I'd even be willing to spare a golden bottlecap for one if somebody wants.
Edit: Making clear that the bottle cap is for a good natured and/or IVed one. I know Moon dudes get like 4 of them in their games, so there's a lot to go around. I'd be willing to trade off a Kartana for any old Pheremosa, but I'm mostly looking for a good one to cheese with.
I got a spare Naive already EV trained on attack and speed. I'd trade it for a Jolly Kartana.
Well, I ate my words, and chainbreeded some synch abras, how does it works? The Abra has to be alive or fainted is good? I tried like 6 times with a timid fainted whatever and a synch jolly kadabra 2th, and the captured ub01 never had either nature.
I chainbreed a timid Abra, fainted Abra first, whatever 2th, one try, neutral nature, so its possible that it was just luck, but If someone can confirm how it works, I'd be grateful.
Anyone around who could help me evolve my Scyther (god, I hate evolution by trade)?
Well, I ate my words, and chainbreeded some synch abras, how does it works? The Abra has to be alive or fainted is good? I tried like 6 times with a timid fainted whatever and a synch jolly kadabra 2th, and the captured ub01 never had either nature.
I chainbreed a timid Abra, fainted Abra first, whatever 2th, one try, neutral nature, so its possible that it was just luck, but If someone can confirm how it works, I'd be grateful.
Have the pokémon with Synchronize as the lead of the group and the wild Pokémon will have a 50% chance of having the same nature. It will work even if the pokémon with synchronize has fainted.
I heard Tapu Koko + Xurkitree is a doubles combo that completely wrecks, have you tried that? Even in singles, since Koko leads to set up electric terrain, then Volt Switch into Xurkitree and spam Discharge or whatnot. I think if they are using something immune or resistant (like Ground) you swap into something different like Tapu Bulu.
I don't have a spare trained Pheremosa to give you but do want that golden cap @_@.
Oooh, that might be good to try. I haven't done doubles yet on Battle Tree, but that intrigues me, haha.
I got a spare Naive already EV trained on attack and speed. I'd trade it for a Jolly Kartana.
Unfortunately, the best Kartanas I've got are Naughty and Careful, which aren't too useful. If any of those interest you, I'd def take the trade, but I think you can do better, haha.
Once you read set ups all over the place and watch things like YouTube videos on people playing competitive battles and creating competitive sets, the more recurring natures kinda begin seeping into your memory.
The real impressive feat is when people can look at a mon and immediately guess their possible nature, item and moveset based on how the meta works.
I just google the names of the things, haha. The rule of thumb is get a nature that increases a preferred stat while sacrificing an unused stat (usually the unused attack stat, since a pokemon with no special attacks isn't going to need any points in that stat). Sometimes you might look for a nature that reduces speed, if you're going for a trick room set, or want a slow U-turn/volt switch.
Aaah. I know it makes or breaks some pokemon competitively, and maybe if I had more investment in that I'd probably memorize them with ease lol. Once I import my HG/W2/Y/OR pokemon maybe I can have fun with battling.
In the meantime, can someone explain to me why 6EV Dittos are so desirable?
They aren't supposed to be legendaries I think, they are just pokemon from a different dimension, they have the same base stats as this region "trio"(the Tapus are actually 4) though so I'm not sure about where they stand, they are allowed in VGC, but once again the trios are also allowed since they don't have crazy stats.
Well fair enough, but I still peg them as "legendary" for being one of a kind and super powerful.
Wondering who it was that made that competitive guide on YouTube last gen; that'd just address all questions in one go.
In the meantime, can someone explain to me why 6EV Dittos are so desirable?
It's 6IV ditto. IVs are determined at a pokemon's birth, and can make up to a difference in 31 points in a stat over the course of a pokemon's life, depending on the value. 6 perfect IV ditto has all 6 of these. The way IV breeding works is that the parents pass down 3 IVs between them, and then the last 3 are random, so more perfect IVs has a better chance of bred pokemon having perfect IVs. If a parent is holding Destiny Knot, however, then they pass down 5/6 of their perfect IVs to the child, and the last is random. A 6 perfect IV ditto with Destiny Knot passes down 5 guaranteed perfect IVs to the child, no matter what it is. Most pokes really only need 5, anyways (same with natures in that usually you don't need both attack stats, and some pokes prefer low speed stats).
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Wondering who it was that made that competitive guide on YouTube last gen; that'd just address all questions in one go.
Lol I've been reading up on Serebii when I can. The more I learn, the more I get interested but hot damn is it a lot of work to make an even halfway competitive team. I know the last two gens have streamlined the process, but still.
It's 6IV ditto. IVs are determined at a pokemon's birth, and can make up to a difference in 31 points in a stat over the course of a pokemon's life, depending on the value. 6 perfect IV ditto has all 6 of these. The way IV breeding works is that the parents pass down 3 IVs between them, and then the last 3 are random, so more perfect IVs has a better chance of bred pokemon having perfect IVs. If a parent is holding Destiny Knot, however, then they pass down 5/6 of their perfect IVs to the child, and the last is random. A 6 perfect IV ditto with Destiny Knot passes down 5 guaranteed perfect IVs to the child, no matter what it is. Most pokes really only need 5, anyways (same with natures in that usually you don't need both attack stats, and some pokes prefer low speed stats).
Ahhhhhhhhh. Okay.
Most of the work imo that comes into making a "competitive" team is planning. And I mean like writing things down, taking note of how teams could work together as a whole.. ect. Especially if you are making your own sets that isn't taken from Smogon(though these could give you an idea where to start). The process used to take me hours… Maybe even days, lol. There's just so much synergies, even if they are mostly not all that useful.
I quit making teams when at the end of last gen when gamefreak introduced Primal Forms and god-damned Mega Rayquazza into the game. That and the Mega metagame didn't seem all that appealing since they were kinda too strong and you needed one in a team. Don't know if I'd come back to it.
This time around it should be interesting to see what meta game develops without mega forms being allowed and with z-moves coming into play. Particularly looking forward to the creative use of some of these pokemon in support roles for vgc.
Well I got a Modest Magearna after a single reset. I'll take that.
Well I got a Modest Magearna after a single reset. I'll take that.
Synchronize works on any gifted pokemon that doesn't come from an event
I don't have synchronize…
You should've kept some of those japanese abras.
Just skimmed the last few pages to see if this has been posted yet so sorry if I missed it.
It looks like evidence of a Sun/Moon Switch version is starting to appear in the form of walking Pokemon from HGSS
Here's the entire album. The return of walking Pokemon is seen pretty often on wishlists of past features. Looks like a version on a stronger console may come through for us.
I got the game for over a week now, but I only played like 2 or 3hours in total… so far it's been super boring and tedious to play 
Is Lillie gonna tag along the whole fuckin game?...
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Since you guys are asking about competitive guides, the guy that won VGC this year is making competitive VGC guides for various pokemon.
Here is his channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9OZkS1Mhl5UvKSiPrYqsxg/videos
There are a bunch more, after watching that you will probably get recommended some other users.
P.S. The guy likes to make sure you remember he is the world champion at the start of every video.
Well fair enough, but I still peg them as "legendary" for being one of a kind and super powerful.
Some of them aren't one a kind xD.
It's 6IV ditto. IVs are determined at a pokemon's birth, and can make up to a difference in 31 points in a stat over the course of a pokemon's life, depending on the value. 6 perfect IV ditto has all 6 of these. The way IV breeding works is that the parents pass down 3 IVs between them, and then the last 3 are random, so more perfect IVs has a better chance of bred pokemon having perfect IVs. If a parent is holding Destiny Knot, however, then they pass down 5/6 of their perfect IVs to the child, and the last is random. A 6 perfect IV ditto with Destiny Knot passes down 5 guaranteed perfect IVs to the child, no matter what it is. Most pokes really only need 5, anyways (same with natures in that usually you don't need both attack stats, and some pokes prefer low speed stats).
Almost but not quite, destiny knot changes the inheritance from 3 stats from both parents to 5 stats from both parents.
Suppose you have a Perfect ditto and a 0iv in all six magikarp, it will take at random from both parents, and randomize the last, it migth take from only one parent, but I can't be sure because it would be very rare.
The idea is to keep switching the magikarp with the best next offspring.
Ditto just makes it "easier", but you can breed yourself the perfect dad Mon to use similarly, chaining 2 strong mons from the same group, and breeding until you get a perfect male one, but that is very limiting because now you have to pay a ton of attention to the gender, and with the effort needed to get 3-4 perfect parents you can get enough good dittos to make it not matter.
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All of my Abras (and my Alakazam) have Inner Focus.
All of mine have synchronise, I purged the rest.
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! "would you like some child abuse along with your cute monster battling?"
! Despite the hype, Lusamine did not give me as much trouble as Guzma did since I was able to type-match a lot more effectively and Muk serves as a decent counter to her Clefable. Just for the love of god, when Stars comes out, please, please give the protagonist some alternate facial expressions. Seriously, you've got the dramabombs of Lusamine going nuts and denying her children, summoning eldritch horrors while she's grinning like a madwoman while they're upset, Hau's shocked, Guzma's leering…then the camera pans and the protagonist's still got that vacantexpression on his dumb face. Maybe I should buy the mirrored sunglasses that Dexio and Sina have to complete the "I don't give a fuuuuuuck!" look.
! Also, Gladion, why are you telling Hau to fight Guzma. Have you seen his team? He's only got three Pokemon, one of which is a Raichi, the other a Decidueye. He's going to get wrecked.
Seafolk Village has really nice music, regardless of the time of day, and those scenes with Lillie are cute but, maybe she might wanna share some of those Max Repels. The level spike on Poni Island is real.
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I just put the biggest sunglasses I could find on my character, at least I can imagine that he's emoting in his eyes, his smile frozen in panic, or maybe he's feeling the akwardness of this family mess.
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Since you guys are asking about competitive guides, the guy that won VGC this year is making competitive VGC guides for various pokemon.
Here is his channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9OZkS1Mhl5UvKSiPrYqsxg/videos
There are a bunch more, after watching that you will probably get recommended some other users.
Oooh, thanks.
Some of them aren't one a kind xD.
Really now? Can you suddenly catch two UB-10s in the same game? XD
I just put the biggest sunglasses
That reminds me, changed my trainer's look. No more blondes for me.
Finished catching the UB. Got a spare Jolly Kartana and a Calm Xurkitree for trade and looking for a Naive Pheromosa.
Really now? Can you suddenly catch two UB-10s in the same game? XD
Yup you can catch 4 Kartana/Pheromosa, 2 Buzzwhole/Xurkitree/Celestela, and one Nihilego/Guzzlord, for some reason we only get one Nihilego even though we see a bunch of them in the game story, Solegaleo and Lunala can also be considered "UBs", if you do the story you will know what I mean.
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Yup you can catch 4 Kartana/Pheromosa, 2 Buzzwhole/Xurkitree/Celestela, and one Nihilego/Guzzlord, for some reason we only get one Nihilego even though we see a bunch of them in the game story, Solegaleo and Lunala can also be considered "UBs", if you do the story you will know what I mean.
…..........................huh.
…..........................huh.
! Cosmog comes from the same dimension as the UBs, if they are UBs because they come from an alternate dimension, so is Cosmog who evolves to Solgaleo and Lunala.
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Geez. Celesteela's stat spread is so balanced. Good typing too.
Now I'm having a hard time deciding what kind of set and Nature I'd want and wish the game allowed me to catch six of them instead of two.
Ok, gotta request and not sure if I'm gonna get any biters, but we'll see.
I've beaten the game. Got to endgame. The last couple of island Challenges as well as the finale was all tough! I was down to my last Pokémon a few times!! Much niceness to be had there, I enjoyed it thoroughly.
Anyway, I'm now in postgame and I'm on my tradition now: Dex hunting. I have right now, in the Pokémon Bank, a "Living Pokédex". What this is, is in my bank I have, in order, one of every single Pokémon. All 721 Pre-Gen 7 Pokémon. Including all forms and Evolutions. Bulbasaur through Volcanion.
The goal here is that I will now have, forever, every Pokémon. When the Bank opens to Gen 7 in January and we get a National Pokédex in Sun and Moon, I can just transfer them all over and BAM. Complete Dex. Done.
So in postgame, I've been doing that in Sun and Moon and I'm down to the nitty gritty now. I have a few Moon exclusives, the Tapus, and the Ultra Beasts and I'm DONE!! I even managed to magically get another Null through the GTS so I can have a Null AND A Silvaly now… My ONLY issues is... the game only gives you ONE Cosmog.... I need a second one so I can have Cosmoem in the Living Dex... It's the only one I think I'm gonna have problems with.
TL;DR: Anyone here on AP willing to trade me a Cosmog or Cosmoem?
Also, I'm the kind who knows how and is willing to breed for good natures and IVs. If it will sweeten the deal, I will spend the time to breed you a particular 'Mon until it has the perfect ability, nature, IVs, what have you if it will get me the Cosmog/Cosmoem I need.
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Just doin' some dex filling before I continue with Poni Canyon (and making sure everyone is a little higher in level, the mons are getting stronger). I've decided to make the Eevee a Jolteon and try to it use for my team, since I've never used one and I don't have an electric type.
! Cosmog comes from the same dimension as the UBs, if they are UBs because they come from an alternate dimension, so is Cosmog who evolves to Solgaleo and Lunala.
Lol I know, the "….huh" was just me being surprised.
Just for the love of god, when Stars comes out, please, please give the protagonist some alternate facial expressions. (…) Hau's shocked, Guzma's leering...then the camera pans and the protagonist's still got that vacant
I eventually found that to be hilarious. I always imagined my dude giving the thumbs up in the most dire circumstances.
There must be a meme going around on the GTS right now or something. Some people on another forum were talking about trading away Trubbishs for very good stuff like Legendaries and I didn't believe them…but I just managed to successfully trade away a Trubbish for Lunala. I'm receiving an opposite version-exclusive Legendary, and giving literal garbage in return. What the fuck.
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There must be a meme going around on the GTS right now or something. Some people on another forum were talking about trading away Trubbishs for very good stuff like Legendaries and I didn't believe them…but I just managed to successfully trade away a Trubbish for Lunala. I'm receiving an opposite version-exclusive Legendary, and giving literal garbage in return. What the fuck.
Can you trade me one of those?
Hmmm I'll go check. Its probably a giveaway of some sort .
Competitive question: witch one has more impact in the stats of a mon, nature, iv or EV? Or from most to least? I'd guess nature is multiplicative, so it has more to work with with bigger numbers, then EV's because they are 4 EV per point and you get like 252 max per stat, being 63 points at lvl 100, and last IVs, being up to 31 at level 100. Rigth?
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Hmmm I'll go check. Its probably a giveaway of some sort .
Competitive question: witch one has more impact in the stats of a mon, nature, iv or EV? Or from most to least? I'd guess nature is multiplicative, so it has more to work with with bigger numbers, then EV's because they are 4 EV per point and you get like 252 max per stat, being 63 points at lvl 100, and last IVs, being up to 31 at level 100. Rigth?
The nature leads to a 10% increase/decrease in stats, so it does have an important impact, which differs based on the mon. The rest you have correct. Best case scenario is to have all three. Nature's the easiest to get, since you just need to breed for it. EVs require either work (picking the right battles, using EV boosting items, pokerus) or time (Palego). IVs require good luck and a lot of breeding (at least until the dudes trading off hacked 6IV dittos are back. Then you just need a destiny knot, and you're in the money).
Allright, thanks. That's all good and fine for the breedables, I'm currently hunting for good UBs, as the Tapus were a bust for me.
Got a "top percentage" xircutree, UB03. But the rest got good natures and the "not good stats" around half.
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Allright, thanks. That's all good and fine for the breedables, I'm currently hunting for good UBs, as the Tapus were a bust for me.
Got a "top percentage" xircutree, UB03. But the rest got good natures and the "not good stats" around half.
You can get the ability to judge IVs from your PC if you hatch 20 eggs and talk to the dude to the right of the Battle Tree. It's pretty helpful, since all legends have some guaranteed perfect IVs.
Also, that Buzzwole is amazing.
And speaking of breeding, in between work, I've gotten to the tail end of my Wimpod project! I've got a destiny knot, with the 5IVs I need between Wimpods, breeding 4IV ones on average. Hopefully, I'll soon have that 5IV Adamant Wimpod with Aqua Jet, and Spikes in a Beast Ball. First ones I have will go to breeding, then one for me, and the rest for distribution.
Allright, thanks. That's all good and fine for the breedables, I'm currently hunting for good UBs, as the Tapus were a bust for me.
Got a "top percentage" xircutree, UB03. But the rest got good natures and the "not good stats" around half.
You can "change" the IVs of a pokémon now with the Hyper training. It requires the pokémon to be in lv100, though, but if you intend to bring your pokémon that far, then IVs are not really that important. Focus on nature since that's the only thing you can't change.
Also, I don't know for Moon, but in Sun the Kartanas are extremely easy to catch, you just need to throw the Beast Ball at them and it will succeed even at full HP every time. This should make reseting for them much quicker.
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Also, I don't know for Moon, but in Sun the Kartanas are extremely easy to catch, you just need to throw the Beast Ball at them and it will succeed even at full HP every time. This should make reseting for them much quicker.
That isn't really true. First off, Kartana's only in Sun. Secondly, the beast balls have a high capture rate, but it's not 100%, certainly not exclusively for one species. The beast ball just works with a x5 capture rate on UBs, and a x0.1 on all else.
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