Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !
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With Big Mom and Perospero possibly gone, the Big Mom Pirates can follow Katakuri and join the Strawhats.
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@FolhaS Some of them? Yep.
@FolhaS said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
From some of the dialogue of the latest chapters, or at least the translations, there seems to be a chance that the devil fruit powers they showed are something they stole/collected more recently.
Sure! I don't disagree.
@FolhaS said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
Also, in Jaya Van Auger is shown sitting on a roof of the island right after taking the seagulls out. Not saying it's impossible for him to have teleported into the ocean and then back but the scene seems to favor the "great sniper" angle.
Right, that doesn't change anything though. Either way he's a great sniper. I think you jumped to the conclusion that he teleported out but it's just as likely that he saw the seagulls and teleported his bullets. It's equally impressive.
@FolhaS said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
And when BB goes after Luffy right before the Knock-Up stream, if Van Auger could already teleport backthen he should have used it the same way he did this past chapter.
Having fruit powers? I think it's entirely possible. But whether it was awakened two years ago or not is a different issue. Even if he could teleport bullets, that doesn't necessarily mean he can teleport ships.
And tbh, for all we know, that's exactly how the BB crew eventually got out of that pinch stranded at sea.
I believe either option exists! But, for now, personally I see Augur having had his ability back then.
Well I assume he can't air jump multiple times easily.
I actually believe this to be the case if he jumped out there himself. It's essentially another way of flying without flying.
Will this turn into a Naruto thing
More or less. New cast/crew will be the kids from each island they met/inspired.
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Usopp has to manage obstacles that might block his vision and windspeeds, but now this guy can teleport the projectile at any moment. It can be 2 inches from his the front of his face 1 second, then coming from a different direction the next.
Oda will have to top Nen and Byakugan when it comes to awareness. Oda gives his hardest battles to his strongest soldiers.
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@Greg said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
@FolhaS Some of them? Yep.
@FolhaS said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
From some of the dialogue of the latest chapters, or at least the translations, there seems to be a chance that the devil fruit powers they showed are something they stole/collected more recently.
Sure! I don't disagree.
@FolhaS said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
Also, in Jaya Van Auger is shown sitting on a roof of the island right after taking the seagulls out. Not saying it's impossible for him to have teleported into the ocean and then back but the scene seems to favor the "great sniper" angle.
Right, that doesn't change anything though. Either way he's a great sniper. I think you jumped to the conclusion that he teleported out but it's just as likely that he saw the seagulls and teleported his bullets. It's equally impressive.
@FolhaS said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
And when BB goes after Luffy right before the Knock-Up stream, if Van Auger could already teleport backthen he should have used it the same way he did this past chapter.
Having fruit powers? I think it's entirely possible. But whether it was awakened two years ago or not is a different issue. Even if he could teleport bullets, that doesn't necessarily mean he can teleport ships.
And tbh, for all we know, that's exactly how the BB crew eventually got out of that pinch stranded at sea.
I believe either option exists! But, for now, personally I see Augur having had his ability back then.
Well I assume he can't air jump multiple times easily.
I actually believe this to be the case if he jumped out there himself. It's essentially another way of flying without flying.
Will this turn into a Naruto thing
More or less. New cast/crew will be the kids from each island they met/inspired.
You're right on one thing, I was assuming Van Auger would teleport himself but teleporting bullets is not only possible but also pretty cool.
But on the matter of them chasing the StrawHats you're the one who jumped to conclusions
I was thinking more along the lines of what he did this past chapter, teleport one of his crew members onto the Merry. It's a bit of "meta-gaming" on my part but I'd say it's safe to assume any BB pirate could give the StrawHats a run for their money back then, specially if they already had these powers.But a quick re-read of the scene also showed me it's pacing.
They met only a minute before the Knock Up Stream activated, even if that was their attack plan they really didn't have enough time to execute it. And their ship got pretty beaten up, so that was a priority.
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.Since we're talking Van Auger, a quick question to everybody.
Do you guys think Usopp will create a plan/trap that leaves no opening thus beating Van Auger even if he teleports
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I really wish Oda would give all the Black Beard Pirates two devil fruits like he did Teach
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@FolhaS
No conclusion-jumping because I questioned the extent of his ability. If he did have it, we don't know if it only applied to him or not. It's a lot of if's and then's so from my perspective it's not worth debating until we know more bc Oda can cook up any explanation. My only point is, either outcome seems possible and explanations exist for either assumption. I feel like that's broken record of me but I mean, that's dealing with manga creation, doors need to be left open.Btw, Stronger and Van Augur got proper names. Fancy that.
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@Cockycent said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
Usopp has to manage obstacles that might block his vision and windspeeds, but now this guy can teleport the projectile at any moment. It can be 2 inches from his the front of his face 1 second, then coming from a different direction the next.
Yeah, that's why I'm 50/50 on that ability. Sure for the hero this is an amazing obstacle to overcome in a fight between two snipers. But it kinda sours the actual sniping skills for me if he could literally teleport bullets he fired to appear directly in front of his target. Heck, I could do that if I only had a clear look at my target. And I don't have any sniping skills at all but I could fire a gun/rifle like the amateur that I most likely am.
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Do you guys think we'll ever know something about the 7 times Kaido had been defeated (mentioned in his introduction, chapter 795)?
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@crlsdc said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
Do you guys think we'll ever know something about the 7 times Kaido had been defeated (mentioned in his introduction, chapter 795)?
That was covered in what passes for a flashback he got. He "lost" on purpose so they'd put him on their ships and then he'd eat all their food.
We can assume maybe he lost a few times to some tagteam style Garp, Sengoku, Roger, Shanks types but mostly the flashback writes it off as intentional losing.
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@Robby said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
@crlsdc said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
Do you guys think we'll ever know something about the 7 times Kaido had been defeated (mentioned in his introduction, chapter 795)?
That was covered in what passes for a flashback he got. He "lost" on purpose so they'd put him on their ships and then he'd eat all their food.
We can assume maybe he lost a few times to some tagteam style Garp, Sengoku, Roger, Shanks types but mostly the flashback writes it off as intentional losing.
I think you're confusing two different things.
In his intro, the narrator says "[...] he had tasted defeat as a pirate on seven occasions... and been caught by the marines or enemy ships no less than 18 times!!"
Later, the narrator also states "ultimately, he sank nine different prison vessels".
His intro makes a clear difference between being defeated or being captured. And in the instances where he was indeed captured on purpose so as to have a free all-you-can-eat buffet (like 1049 shows), he ended up escaping again and sinking those ships.
So I do think the 7 defeats are actually against high-ranking marines or pirates in the past, even though the flashback doesn't mention or show any of them.
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He surely has lost in God Valley for obvious reasons.
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I think there was a flashback that pretty much says he wasn't on God Valley during that fight?
Like BM asking where he is and when he hears news of Rocks defeat it seems like he had nothing to do with that. -
@statu-variabilis he was there at God Valley, big mom gave him his fruit in order to save his life when the God Valley incident happened.
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Do we even know that Van Augur can teleport things without also teleporting himself? That doesn't seem to be the case to me.
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Any idea on what Kuma’s race is Greg? Or where his story will go from here if they save him?
Edit: Also do you think Aokiji is the tenth titanic captain? I assumed he wasn’t because they said Black Beard had ten titanic captains back at Dressrosa and that was before him and Burgess were discussing whether Aokiji should join or not, so I didn’t think it would make sense for him to have already been a known member of the group
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This is just my own guess, but could Kuma's mystery race be like some sort of "Half-Giant" people? Like, they're still in the range of normal human height in the OP world, but they have longer lifespans, and stronger natural physical prowess like a giant.
If this is right, then could there be sub-races of them like how Giants have the Ancient and Mystery Giants, and that is what Kaido actually is?
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Re: warping. We know jack other than that he can teleport himself now. Anything I posted above is entirely conjecture which is why I'm not married to any ideas. While I'd like to think he could teleport back then, I have no clue whether he actually could or not.
Kuma race might be what BB is, meaning the whole not-sleeping thing. If that's just a race thing of course. It might be he just has some sort of defect but Marco's 'unusual body' comment is not much to go on.
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So who are the three races that Big Mom doesn't have on her island? I always assumed it was Giant, Oni, and Lunarian but I guess an Oni isn't actually considered a race? My guess is that Ancient Giants are just seen as the same race as Giants, even though Oars and Oars Jr clearly have a lot of differences from regular giants (being more like Oni). Unless this special race of Kuma's is one that nobody knows about? Big Mom might've ony known about Lunarians because she knew about King, after all.
Also do we know if Big Mom has any Skypeians on her island? Or are they all being classed under the same banner as Lunarians (given there are technically three types of Angel people out there, but I assume they are all considered one race)?
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Giants, Lunarians are definitely two of the three races she doesn’t have
I assume the last one is whatever Kuma is
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@Greg do you think Ryokugyu has a black blade? From his introduction it looks like it a black blade but we never saw him use it or a comment made about his sword unlike the other black blades.
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New Greg piece is up, he talks about the reaper shenanigans so it’s old news, but I do hope he can get back to post these regularly.
https://one-piece.com/special/greg/detail/20221028_1295.html?l=en
SW-3170-8630-8341
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@Sun-D We don’t even know how he fights, we only saw him with the beaten up Beast Pirates and the fight between him and Momo wasn’t focused on him.
We also have someone with a sword and it’s Issho.
Maybe it’s part of his design and he doesn’t use it like the sword fighters we got on the crew.I can’t imagine him using the sword in a fight, cause he’s a logia but who knows, maybe someone has another idea.
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@The-Light-of-Shandora said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
so it’s old news
Harsh! lol
I think you missed the point of drawing attention to the older material. I threw in there that Zoro's throwaway line about coming back from Hell sounds funny but might actually be entirely true and that since Zoro sucks getting anywhere, it's unlikely he got out of there himself, meaning he may have had interactions with some characters of interest that helped guide him back.
The second half of the article was also cut in its entirety it dealt with Green Bull and the Kozuki family. The Green Bull stuff I can't talk about but the Kozuki stuff was just pointing out Sukiyaki's intro referenced the kokeshi thing. LOL that they removed that. Perplexing that they basically let me spoil a point a few installments back but are uptight about stuff already revealed in the manga.
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@Greg
I didn't mean it like that
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I know you've talked about the difficulties with the editorial team before.
On the plus side, I think it's nice to bring it back up, as this could also be something Zoro learned while he was "dead" and maybe he wants to talk with Brook about that, while they are on ship watch duty.
Maybe it could be the thing he wants to know from Vegapunk, but this should be a stretch. I think its rather likely he wants to talk about how the smile side effect can be removed from the people of Wano or its Kuma, but who knows. -
Greg any ideas on what the last few Black Beard members will get for devil fruits?
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OK, am I remembering things wrong or did the Pacifista's origins get retconned? Now, the newest chapter says they are clones of Kuma, but I remember it was originally said Pacifista are made from dead bodies.
I believe the latter was said around the time of Saobody.
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@Johnny-B-Decent Could be a translation mistake or the dead bodies could be referring to them being cyborgs stripped of humanity.
Reminder that we often relied on sucky scanlations back then.
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When is Sentomaru going to appear? And will he be a good guy or bad guy
It’s got to be this arc right? He’s Vegapunk’s body guard
Also do him and Kuma have a similar fighting stance or is it just me?
Sentomaru vs Rob Lucci a possibility?
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Kishidoooooo!
Hope the latest SBS helps settle one of your raid suit vs body quandries. It's not a complete answer but definitely gives enough info to draw some fairly solid conclusions from!
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@Greg Are Shanks crew and WB crew similar according to latest SBS?
With Elite officers of Shanks being captains like Division Commanders of Whitebeard?Also why is Franky bounty so low despite him having feats close to Jinbe level?
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@Greg said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
Kishidoooooo!
Hope the latest SBS helps settle one of your raid suit vs body quandries. It's not a complete answer but definitely gives enough info to draw some fairly solid conclusions from!
Is this about volume 103 where Oda mentions Sanji gaining body augmentations, or is it further developped in a volume 104 SBS I have yet to read ?
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Reiju, Ichiji and Niji's powers are simple enough. Poison, Lasers and Electricity. It's Yonji and now Sanji's powers that don't make sense, especially now that we know Sanji doesn't actually turn invisible.
So, can Yonji elongate and extend his hand without the suit, then? Or is his non-Raid Suit power just super strength?
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Yep, from 104!
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I'd need to have the book in front of me for specifics. However, I can say that the impression it left me with when I first read it is that (like other Emps) Shanks' biggest leaders have their own crews/groups like Grand Fleet. It just so happens that they hang out a lot and we don't see their ships/crews very often by virtue of Oda not pulling Shanks out very often. -
Black Beard also has a grand fleet right? Wasn’t Pink Beard part of it?
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That last column about the underworld, souls and Zoro's seemingly throwaway line was amazing.
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@Greg Thanks for the clarification. And about Franky bounty being too low, even after defeating a Senior Tobiroppo just like Jinbe...?
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@Shiebs He definitely has some allies, yeah. It seemed Kaido and Big Mom were the only ones without one, as they incorporated any allies directly into their crews.
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Dunno if I ever told anyone but I'll ploop it down here.
Belly X
Belli X
Berry O -
Beli>>>>>>>all three
I don't even think i've seen it anywhere. Just made it up most likely.
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They actually use Berry in the German dub, which I always kind of liked.
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@Greg do you think smoker will show up this arc? The last we saw of him was when G5 where heading to vegapunks lab to cure the punk hazard kids however he wasn't seen with tashigi at G-14.
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@Greg What's this about Berries? Is Berry the proper word or what have you? Or is there some story significance here that's lost on me?
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That's an interesting question. It's easy to dsmiss as 'it's part of (spoiler)! Hya-herp!' but on a certain level, if we're to believe that inanimave objects can be inhabited by forms of life then it stands to reason, those lifeforms would also be pulled in as-is.
I think...they just wanted to have fun neutering the crew but it's entirely possible that Oda could weave that into the story.
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Greg I just watched One Piece film red and I loved it! Idk if he cares but if so let Oda know I thought It was great
Also is there a place to listen to all the songs? I really enjoyed them
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Pretty much YouTube. The artist's name is 'Ado' I guarantee 'Ado One Piece' will bring up dozens of helpful results
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Cool cool thanks, that’s where I’m headed
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At this point I really think Oda will have to make Uta a cannon character. Her popularity here right now is insane for a movie character.
