I know I'm new here…
Totally not a dupe account made for these occasions folks.
Anyway, let's look at what I wrote:
"What misinformed theorist is pushing the 'Nami couldn't beat Ulti anyway' idea? Not only is it insulting, but it's amateurish at best and misogynist at worst. Nami has never been able to physically overwhelm an opponent on strength alone. That's the point. There's a word for people who beat people they're physically superior to because they can, 'bullies'. Literally nobody is questioning Ulti's vastly superior strength. What we're questioning is how Oda created expectations based on his own work and didn't deliver on any of them."
Versus what the Lulz Patrol want you to think I wrote:
"What misinformed theorist is pushing the 'Nami couldn't beat Ulti anyway' idea? Not only is it insulting, but it's amateurish at best and misogynist. Nami has never been able to physically overwhelm an opponent on strength alone. That's the point. There's a word for people who beat people they're physically superior to because they can, 'bullies'. Literally nobody is questioning Ulti's vastly superior strength. What we're questioning is how Oda created expectations based on his own work and didn't deliver on any of them.
Sorry to spoil the parade but no, I did not write that suggesting Nami couldn't beat Ulti in and of itself is misogynist. Womp womp.
What I suggested was that the sentiment that Nami couldn't beat Ulti based purely on strength has a as many motivations behind it as there are people saying it. Depending on the individual, those motivations may range anywhere from amateurish (innocent), all the way to misogynist (cruel intent).
Unless you're feeling insecure about your intentions, what I wrote shouldn't even resonate with anyone reading that comment aside from recognizing that crappy people exist.
"How can it be misogynist if Ulti is a girl?"
Whether the adversary or Ulti or not isn't important, it could be anyone. The misogynist end of that would be assuming that a woman cannot beat an opponent because she is weak and has no other skills that matter or count towards victory.
So if someone says, "Nami can't beat Ulti/Cracker/Kalifa/etc. because she's weak," is that misogyny? Not necessarily by itself, no. But when you take everyone stating that and dissect why they're saying that, you're going to find a percentage (or as I said at worst) individuals who do have misogynist feelings rooted in those opinions.
Is it wrong to say those people exist? I don't feel that it is. Is it wrong to point it out as something not to aim towards as a fan? I also don't feel that's wrong either.
My entire point is:
People are giving Oda a pass for (dramatically-speaking and as compared to his own work) a poorly handled fight. And the pass they're giving him is, "Nami couldn't beat Ulti anyway." They have a number of justifications for saying that, but almost all of them are off, if not virulent.
When you say that, you're suggesting that Nami could only use strength to overcome Ulti. Furthermore, it's ignoring the kind of upgrades Oda has slowly been giving Nami through the years. We don't have an explanation for weather sorcery let alone anything significantly new or different coming from her tact.
One person who tried to counterpoint me, "But now Nami has a new upgrade and she can use all new tactics with it."
Yeah…like the last time she got an upgrade. And the last time. We expected to get all of that goodness...here ^o^
And yes, Nami will still have a role to play and I'm sure it will be very exciting and dramatic. But she had a well-developed grudge match with Ulti. Their battle actually meant something and it was ultimately solved with...a homing version of a previous attack that she doesn't actually need to do much different for besides unleash it.
So, that's what was said. I didn't call the manga/Oda misogynist. I didn't say everyone who disagrees is a misogynist. In fact, misogyny was a point that instead of holding up hands, "WHOA WHOA WHOA! Who you calling-" they could agree that yes, those aholes do exist in the fandom and those types of arguments only feed them. It was even a buff for the argument, it was acknowledgement of poor behavior.