Why do they so easily dismiss two Yonkou getting into contact with each other? When Big Mom and Kaido linked, the Marines called a state of emergency.
It's because Shanks sent an envoy and the Gorosei clearly doesn't view him as a threat to world order.
You are comparing two situations which surroundings conditions are totally different.
There is no way for the Gorosei to know why Shanks sent a messenger, all they know he did it and it could possibly be bad. And yes, they dismiss Shanks in that situation based on what they know about him because they have more urgent matters to attend. If they need to the marines are able to send out fleets to try to stop whatever happens.
If you really want to read the scene like Shanks has some shady business whit the WG, than that’s how you want to read it. But I will not agree with you, because for the above stated reason.
And there is the different between the situation in which Shanks contacted Whitebeard and as Big Mom called Kaido.
The marines a freaking out because all their powers right now a tied due to the reverie. They have no men to spare in this situation. And by the way, Sakazuki, fleet admiral, is not only once but repeatedly refusing to send out troops because whatever happens between Big Mom and Kaido is happening out of the WG jurisdiction in Wano. Even through it is a big deal and spells trouble for the WG nobody takes action to stop the two from getting together.
So… are Big Mom and Kaido also on WG payroll?
Ups... sorry, you already answered that question... The weapons dealing of Wano and drug dealings of big Mom (which I totally don't remember).:ninja:
They want to keep balance in the world through the three powers. Please reread the line — I think it's less ambiguous than you think:
“The destruction of the three great powers would reverberate throughout the world. They must be protected.”
This is the line, verbatim. They say they want to protect the three great powers — not dismantle any of them.
I stand what I said. They want to keep the status quo through maintaining the system of the three powers, because it allows the Gorosei (and the WG) to somewhat to stay on top of things. Thus, they also protect themself.
This has less to do with Shanks than you make out of it.
Because Whitebeard arrogantly wanted to do what he wanted to do. His ship operates like a family and they have a code of conduct. He sent Ace after Blackbeard to take him out and refused to call him back.
You may wanna go back to chapter 552!
Whitebeard is covering Aces ass with a blatant lie.
! Flashback!Pirates: Don't do it!!! / Ace!!! Calm down, would you?!!! // The old man said this is a special case!!! / You don't have to go after Teach!!
Flashback!Ace: Get off me!!! He's a member of my division!!! / What's going to become of poor Satch's soul if I just let his killer go?!!!
Flashback!Whitebeard: Ace… that's enough. Just this once......... // I have a very bad feeling about all this...
Flashback!Ace: He killed his own crewmate and fled the ship!!! After being in your care for how many decades… // He ran away and brought shame to us all!!! // How am I supposed to just do nothing... / ...when my father's name is at stake?! / I am going to settle this!!!
Flashback!Pirates: Wait!!! Come back!!! Ace!!!
! Ace: ...............!! // Old man......... // Guys......... // Even after I ignored your warnings and ran out on my own… // Why couldn't you have just forgotten about me?!!! / It's my own fault I ended up like this…......!!!
Whitebeard: .................. // No... // As I recall, it was I who told you to go after him, my son.
! Ace: ...............?!! / ......!! You liar…...!!!
Ace: What the hell are you talking about?!!! I ran out back then even though you told me to -
Whitebeard: I told him to go. Isn't that right, Marco?
Marco: Indeed. I heard it with my own ears!! / We're sorry for putting you through this trouble, Ace!! // I think everyone in the whole wide ocean ought to know... // Just what happens to any damned fool... / ...who lays a hand on a member of our crew!!!
! (translation by cnet128)
Whoever is to fault for the war is a different matter and has nothing to do with Shanks.
Shanks foresaw a bad outcome and wanted to warn Whitebeard based on his own experience. (A warning that was unneeded as shown in the scene I provided above, because Whitebeard himself had a bad feeling about Teach.)
Whitebeard could have called off Ace at anytime and chose not to out of pride. The WG certainly wasn't concerned with Whitebeard's operations prior to this, as he was able to operate for more than 20 years after Roger's death. Whitebeard may have broken a social contract here — one in which all of the Yonkou have entered. It wouldn't be the first time he rebelled against authority (a la Rocks).
Whitebeard tiered to stop Ace from going after Teach, but Ace didn't listen. Once again: reread chapter 552! Whitebeard is covering for Ace.
How are we to judge if the WG was concerned by prior operations of Whitebeard or not, if we didn't see any of said operations or reactions to said operations.
And we are getting off topic here.
That's exactly how I read it as well. Why?
Think about how feared the WG is by EVERYONE in the series. They commit genocide on a whim. Why is Shanks so nonchalant? Seemingly, because he isn't worried about the potential backlash.
Is this because Shanks is just that strong? Or is it because he knows he won't be punished? Something similar happened when he asked Sengoku for Ace and Whitebeard's bodies.
Shanks isn't worried about the backlash, because yes, he is that strong! He is one of the Yonkos!
No need to make anything more ambiguous as you are trying to make it sound.
Case closed for me.
Heck, maybe Shanks is a part of Sword? 類
Nowadays everybody is sword member, right?:ninja:
Shanks knew that a fight between BB and Ace would end badly for Ace. Hence the warning.
I agree that Shanks was concerned about the new era, but we can't rule out that this was prophecy. After all, Shanks first attempted to speak with Whitebeard all the way back in Jaya. Maybe he knew something. We still don't know what happened between him and Kaido.
I would say we are here in an agreement, so case closed.
Is this really that far-fetched? Katakuri can see the future. Shyarly too. Everything Usopp has lied about has eventually come true. The power exists in this world.
To answer your question: Yes, based on my understanding of how future sight works. It allows you to see a potential future, seconds to may a minute away, which gives somebody an advantage in a fight. That's what Katakuri did and Luffy learnt.
Shiralys prediction has nothing to do with future sight. Just like Usopps lies. He told fantastic tales, which now start to turn up true. I would be more inclined to say Usopp was using his imagination very well. I don't see there any connection between the tales of a 17-year-old, who lived his whole live on a peaceful island in the backwaters of the east blue and haki.
Initially, but they eventually move to destroy the Shichibukai after the system has been rocked too hard. We know that currently, the Shichibukai are awaiting Buster Calls. The system can no longer be maintained due to Luffy, whom they've been keeping tabs on since their first appearance.
At that point, the Gorosei still wanted to keep the system of the three powers going with the Shichibukai. That is the scene you have quoted. What happened to them years later in the story with the Shichibukai is irrelevant. The main point is remains that they are searching for replacements.
Go back to 594 — the Gorosei are discussing who the frontrunner for Whitebeard's replacement in the Yonkou will be. They settle between either Blackbeard or Marco + Whitebeard Pirates.
Then what happens during the 2 year timeskip? Marco is defeated by the Blackbeard pirates, cementing the latter's status. We have no clue if he was appointed, but he seems to be living comfortably.
Er… No, they are commenting on the happenings in the New World and how BB is the frontrunner for Whitebeards spot as Yonko based on his knowledge of his former captains’ territories. And then they start to wonder who could possibly stop BB and concluded it are the other Yonkos or Marco with the remnants of the Whitebeard Pirates.
! Gorousei: …............... // Blackbeard has already begun to take action in the New World... / ...and one of those rookies exceeding a hundred million in bounty has already fallen prey to him. // He is all too familiar with the territory that Whitebeard controlled. // Amongst those pirates striving to fill the vacant seat in the Yonkou... / ...he has a clear head start. There is, after all, no record of any man before him successfully consuming two Devil's Fruits. // If anybody can put a stop to his advance, it would have to be the Yonkou themselves… // ...or else Marco the Phoenix and the other remnants of the Whitebeard Pirates. // It is always those with the D who cause such trouble… Just like Portgas... // It would seem that the name has become rather too exposed at this point...
(translation by cnet128)
And yes, this leads to the a fight between BB and Marco which ended up cementing BB status as Yonko.
Young Buggy seems to really dislike Shanks, who has done something unforgivable. Buggy also laments that Shanks used Buggy as an errand boy — which seemingly happened in the past, too.
No, there was no real bad blood between Buggy and Shanks until one - ONE - incident, which chanced Buggys life dramatically!
I went back and looked Buggys flashback up. (Chapter 19) Unfortunately I don't have a good English translation for you and I'm too lazy to translate half of the chapter out of the volume from my native langue to English. Aside from that, it would be a translation of a translation, which is always bad. But here is a summary of what happens:
Buggy and Shanks seem to argue a lot about insignificant things based on the comments of the other Roger Pirates, but still got along. Buggy even states, that he would recruit Shanks if he wasn't such a dreamer. Prior to this the Roger Pirates did a raid and Buggy found a treasure map, which he hides from his fellow comrades. Shanks tells Buggy that they found a devil fruit, which has a value of 100 million bellies. Buggy fakes the devil fruit, acts like he eats it and silently enjoys that he was able to fool the others because now he has a treasure map and the devil fruit. Furthermore, he plans to leave the ship and form his own piratecrew. But then Shanks surprise him, Buggy hides the fruit by shoving it into his mouth and Shanks surprise him a second time which cause Buggy to swallow the fruit. Buggy is angered, because he just swallows the fruit and then also lose the treasure map. He jumps after the map, but because he consumed the devil fruit is no longer able to swim and Shanks jumps after him to rescue Buggy.
So Buggy faults Shanks for three things: the loss of the treasure map, that he ate valuable devil fruit, which also results in him losing the ability to swim (and search for treasure by diving - at least this way it is stated in the volume I own.)
Shanks may prove to be a manipulative person; we'll see.
Yes, we'll see.
Just to circle back on this, recall chapter 96: entitled "The Greatest Evil in the East". What do you make of this menacing face, covered in shadow?
That you take the face out of context by ignoring the text and the situation.
Shanks waited for 10 years to finally hear that Luffy set out to sea. Shanks seems to be thrilled/excited to hear from Luffy.
There is nothing menacing.