Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !
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Do any of the movies really depend on that? Not for me. My reasons for watching movies are different from my reasons for reading the series. I just wanna see something entertaining in the movies. If it’s got cool fights and good animation I’m all for it.
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I hear that a lot for multiple things. People say they don't care for certain stories, but when certain animators come in for an episode or movie, they jump in. I get it, but I can't go into anything unless I care and have context for most of what is happening in every narrative.
I know people that dislike OP in general that asked me if I seen Kata vs Luffy n i'm like
do you even know what is going on? Can you compute the magnitude of this kind of person even acknowledging Luffy? It's really because i'm old and I want something meaningful that I can question and actually be engaged.The kids are ok with seeing great animation, then forgetting it the next day. Fast food/streaming baby era. For the movies that I did watch, i'd go
6 Gold
5 Dead Adventure
4 Stampede
3 Strange Animals
2 Strong World
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Opinions seem to be a little mixed, but I really liked Stampede. In essence, it's it's a Dragonball movie with the One Piece cast, and if you can enjoy it for being that, it's a great time.
I think I said this before last time movies came up in this thread, but I think Strong World and Z are slightly overrated. Strong World is a paint by numbers One Piece arc, which just makes it feel forumulaic and predictable. It's not long enough to really bring in any surprises, and because it's not canon it doesn't really bring any lore or long-term consequences, so it just falls flat. Z has a bit more ambition to it, but the attempts to make Zephyr into an tragic villain just didn't work for me. His plan as a little too senselessly evil and the script made characters like Kuzan act super out of character to try and justify it. "Maybe he has a point killing everyone in the New World because pirates hurt people too." They made the guy who quit the Marines because he couldn't deal with Sakazuki's disregard for collatoral damage in the name of justice say that? Nope, it doesn't work for me. It would be interesting to see what they might have done if Z had come before Infinity War and they could learn from Thanos' success being the same kind of villain, but the movie is what it is.
The movies are best when they can go nuts doing something the canon story doesn't have room for, like Gold sticking the main cast in a heist plot, Stampede deciding to just be Dragonball for a couple of hours, or Mamoru Hasoda being given a shocking amount of freedom to just do whatever in his own distinct style. Those three are easily my favourites, and I'd love to see more genre pieces or director showcases from future movies.
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Is this why he quit?
Well I'm extrapolating a little, but we know he hates Sakazuki for what he did at Ohara and his attitude toward justice was changed significantly after that point. We know he found an uncharacteristic amount of motivation to fight Sakazuki for the role of Fleet Admiral, and we know that after losing he quit the force, presumable as an alternative to working under Sakazuki. It doesn't take much to connect the dots.
Unless of course there's some long con going on and the fight was a cover so he could go undercover or whatever (but given the missing leg, I doubt it).
I could be wrong. There could be a future reveal that completely changes my interpretation of Kuzan and retroactively improves Film Z as a result, but based just on what we know I'm feeling pretty confident in stance on this one.
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Well I'm extrapolating a little, but we know he hates Sakazuki for what he did at Ohara and his attitude toward justice was changed significantly after that point. We know he found an uncharacteristic amount of motivation to fight Sakazuki for the role of Fleet Admiral, and we know that after losing he quit the force, presumable as an alternative to working under Sakazuki. It doesn't take much to connect the dots.
Yeah, i'm aware of all this. Did he quit tho. We have SWORD that not everyone is aware of. Drake "quit" as well.
Unless of course there's some long con going on and the fight was a cover so he could go undercover or whatever (but given the missing leg, I doubt it).
I could be wrong. There could be a future reveal that completely changes my interpretation of Kuzan and retroactively improves Film Z as a result, but based just on what we know I'm feeling pretty confident in stance on this one.
Agreed, until confirmation, i'm not so certain really.
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Stampede is an Avengers Endgame parody.
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Film Gold is probably my favorite due to the setting.
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Well if Greg wants questions I have three
I remember the revolutionary Commanders told Pink Beard that Black Beard doesn't care about his subordinates, do you think this also applies to his Ten Titan Commaders? Or does he maybe care about them
Almost all of the super nova have been given time to shine in post timeskip arcs, all except Urouge and Bonney, when do you think they'll show up and in what capacity?
and also when do you think Enel's moon story will affect the main story? You said in a previous comment that you thought the space pirates could be like Garp, someone that no one thought would be important from a cover side story that became important later on, do you still think that?
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Film Gold is probably my favorite due to the setting.
Same, it would have been something I would have liked to see in the manga tbh, and Tesoro was a pretty good villain too.
my top 5 of the one piece movies:
1. Strong World
2. Film Z
3. Film Gold
4. Movie 9, Episode of Chopper Plus: Bloom in Winter, Miracle Sakura
5. Movie 6, Baron Omatsuri and the Secret Island
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My favorite is clockwork island adventure. I can always watch that short little piece of fluff and enjoy it. Not the most deep when it comes to the story but i have always had a soft spot for briskly paced movies, and that one never drags in the gags to action to gags rollercoaster. Plus its back when they had fewer strawhats so everyone got plenty of time to shine.
Worst one is easily the butchering of the alabasta arc. Even for someone who has read the original the story is hard to follow. Good animation can't make up for erratic pacing, and the heavy cutting done to significant moments. Compared to the much better chopper remake this one missed the mark in every way.
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its 5 am in the morning and i have discovered this thread about 3 hours ago and have been reading through various discussions, especially those Greg is involved in.
Love his insight and perspectives, hope i can participate in some of the discussions here! ^-^
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I remember the revolutionary Commanders told Pink Beard that Black Beard doesn't care about his subordinates, do you think this also applies to his Ten Titan Commaders? Or does he maybe care about them
Almost all of the super nova have been given time to shine in post timeskip arcs, all except Urouge and Bonney, when do you think they'll show up and in what capacity?
and also when do you think Enel's moon story will affect the main story? You said in a previous comment that you thought the space pirates could be like Garp, someone that no one thought would be important from a cover side story that became important later on, do you still think that?
1. Based purely on what we know so far, I get the impression that while he's tight with them, if he feels it's fate, he's not going to go out of his way to help them.
2. Short answer: When they best serve the story. Guesstimate Answer: Bonney when we find out what happened at Reverie. Urouge at Elbaf given his relation to Mom. Unless he drops out of the sky here in Wano.
3. Yes! Totally still think that's a possibility. As far as when….I dunno that's tough. Depends when Oda wants to drop some history bombs so MAYBE in proximity to Vegapunk goings-ons?
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My presumably crackpot stance is that we'll get moon stuff on Elbaf. It'd be cool if Oda pulled a Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and had that big Yggdrasil tree we know they have turn out to be an ancient space elevator.
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Strong World remains my favorite One Piece Film. And honestly I doubt another one can top it. I believe it has the best interactions between the crew, some of the best animation, and it feels the most…..well like One Piece! It honestly feels like an adaptation of a manga arc that we simply haven't read.
I get why MANY head to Film Z as their favorite. And maybe it honestly is better as a film. But Strong World just feels like something ripped straight from manga and adapted perfectly, even if it wasn't.
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I can never think of Kizaru without hearing in my head "Boooooorsaliiiiinoooooooooo".
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Greg how will Oda top this design with his hinted redesign
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Using the Raid suit seems more like a gateway drug process
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Using the Raid suit seems more like a gateway drug process
You don't have to drag it away. I am just talking about design
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latest one piece podcast episode with stephen and greg was very interesting
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yo Greg hope u doin good
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latest one piece podcast episode with stephen and greg was very interesting
I need to start listening to it. If it's anything like his column then it'll be hella informative. I need to start reading more closely because I didn't notice the obvious Oars type skull and sword in the latest chapter.
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What a gateway drug process to do with design?
You asked about the redesign. I have my own thoughts about the Raid Suit and what it means, which isn't exactly about the design. It isn't dragging it out. I have input that may compliment the matter.
[http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=43241&page=346&p=4037848&highlight=suit#post4037848
S](http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=43241&page=346&p=4037848&highlight=suit#post4037848)anji denies his family. In the end, he saves them. He uses the excuse that it would be against how Zeff raised him, but that is partially untrue. He cares for them. At the same time, his family is against Sanji. He represents everything they are not for. They come to accept him in a way. Even giving him a raid suit.
Sanji uses Germa tech to cover up his "real identity". The Actor theme has been associated with Sanji since WCI arc
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Gateway drugs are drugs that lead to the harder stuff. Just like with Zoro's swords, I see the suit as the drug before dealing with the stronger drug. Sanji dealt with denial of his maiden heart in Momoiro. I think that the more Sanji uses his raid suit (gateway drug/denial of his family and science), the more easier for him to accept his maiden heart and use some of results of training from Ivankov.
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Yes! "Okama" Sanji shall return!
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Holy shit amazing. Okama Sanji will be the best <3 and all the hatred towards him have to die because it was all an act even more impressive than Katakuri
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As long as he doesn't say 'it's morphin time'. That's not a real Sentai.
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I maybe late, but I recommend the Two Piece 6 page comic. It was a great laugh. I hope Oda reads it. It's entertaining
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Holy shit amazing. Okama Sanji will be the best <3 and all the hatred towards him have to die because it was all an act even more impressive than Katakuri
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Anyone else besides Okama Sanji who have some guesses about the redesignWell, it could be that Franky will try to modify his raid suit to make it just a small accessory to his normal butler suit, like a belt, handgloves, etc that provide invisibility and all the other powerups. So he can keep his traditional attire without losing the suit capabilities.
Luffy vs Katakuri Full fight: https://www.docdroid.net/qrFOY9p/luffyxkata.pdf
Luffy vs Cracker Full fight : https://www.docdroid.net/Pk06JZL/luffy-vs-cracker.pdf
Luffy vs Doflamingo Full fight : https://www.docdroid.net/VDl3Ctf/luffyxdoffy.pdf
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Well, it could be that Franky will try to modify his raid suit to make it just a small accessory to his normal butler suit, like a belt, handgloves, etc that provide invisibility and all the other powerups. So he can keep his traditional attire without losing the suit capabilities.
As amazing as it would be I would still prefer a cape and some stuff from the raid suit.
Maybe like Tuxedo Mask just way more badass.
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Nami's climatact got her color. It went from blue to orange. The pop green to compliment her staff wielding expertise. Maybe the redesign is more chef like with some pop green to compliment his flames. Blue and white chef like uniform with the hat
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1. Based purely on what we know so far, I get the impression that while he's tight with them, if he feels it's fate, he's not going to go out of his way to help them.
2. Short answer: When they best serve the story. Guesstimate Answer: Bonney when we find out what happened at Reverie. Urouge at Elbaf given his relation to Mom. Unless he drops out of the sky here in Wano.
3. Yes! Totally still think that's a possibility. As far as when….I dunno that's tough. Depends when Oda wants to drop some history bombs so MAYBE in proximity to Vegapunk goings-ons?
Thank You for answering my questions, sorry I didn't reply sooner, I didn't get a notification for some reason
Do you mind if I ask some more questions?
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I maybe late, but I recommend the Two Piece 6 page comic. It was a great laugh. I hope Oda reads it. It's entertaining
And Vagabond as well, highly recommend this great manga to anyone who will hear.
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@Monkey:
And Vagabond as well, highly recommend this great manga to anyone who will hear.
Agreed, both are of the same level of quality
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Agreed, both are of the same level of quality
What was your favorite (or least favorite I suppose) part of Vagabond?
People generally love the first 2/3 of Kojiro's flashback, and basically everything from after the timeskip starts until the end of the Yoshioka clan. What did you think? -
@Monkey:
What was your favorite (or least favorite I suppose) part of Vagabond?
People generally love the first 2/3 of Kojiro's flashback, and basically everything from after the timeskip starts until the end of the Yoshioka clan. What did you think?My fav is the rice field arc at the end tbh, still waiting ;_;
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It seems reading his discussion on the Cowboy Bebop thread set Zephos on a certain path…
I'll get the popcorn.
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I get this guy doesn't like Vagabond, which makes me eager to discuss it with him in all it's detail.
Maybe for instance he preferred the initial art style over the one that came to dominate somewhere around Kojiro's story.
Perhaps he felt the Yoshioka conflict didn't end as well as he'd have liked.
Maybe Matahachi's character arc rubs him the wrong way.All interesting topics to discuss.
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Something tells me you will be waiting quite a long time for that type of discussion :ninja:
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I think I laid out my reasons in 2 threads on here. 3 years ago on OJ and a Vagabond reddit post. Maybe you want me to retry it for more chapters, but that might make it worse and confirm what I already thought of it. If you want me to retry it for 5-10 more chapters, I will. I have the time. You might just get the same reaction.
Someone on the OP reddit Discord tried this with City Hunter last year and I ended up changing my mind. The Jojo and Haikyu retries didn't turn out that great tho. I don't hate Inuyasha or Full Metal Alchemist, they're just not for me.
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I think I laid out my reasons in 2 threads on here. 3 years ago on OJ and a Vagabond reddit post. Maybe you want me to retry it for more chapters, but that might make it worse and confirm what I already thought of it. If you want me to retry it for 5-10 more chapters, I will. I have the time. You might just get the same reaction.
Oh weird, see I read a few posts and you were saying "it was bad" rather than "I'm not interested in reading this". Which made me think you had actually read it, giving you grounds to say if it was good or not.
Maybe make sure you post the latter rather than the former to avoid this confusion next time.
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@Monkey:
Oh weird, see I read a few posts and you were saying "it was bad" rather than "I'm not interested in reading this". Which made me think you had actually read it, giving you grounds to say if it was good or not.
Maybe make sure you post the latter rather than the former to avoid this confusion next time.
Some people don't seem to understand that "I don't like this" and "it's bad" aren't always one in the same
for example I don't like Frank Sinatra but I understand he's an amazing musician, it's just not my cup of tea
where as a guy I work with, thinks Bob Dylan is a crap musician who left no impact on the music industry….. which is insanely wrong
some people can separate there personal bias and understand what makes something great despite it not being there thing and some can't
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@Monkey:
Oh weird, see I read a few posts and you were saying "it was bad" rather than "I'm not interested in reading this". Which made me think you had actually read it, giving you grounds to say if it was good or not.
Maybe make sure you post the latter rather than the former to avoid this confusion next time.
I did say "it was bad" and that is because I read about 4 chapters. No hook or anything engaging. I can tell what the tone is going to be. I'm not 1 of those peopl that don't know their own taste and have to read 50 chapters b4 making judgement
So, it was bad and I definitely do have grounds to say what it is
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4 chapters…...just to put things into perspective; the first volume of Vagabond has 10 chapters.
This dude legit read less than HALF of the first volume and yet somehow managed to understood the entire series and came to the conclusion that the series is bad.
You can't make this shit up.
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At least finish the volume and if you don't like it then don't read the next and leave it at that.
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I think you just want me to talk about how bad it is. I don't get why. It's not that big of a deal. Some things are trash and some aren't. Every writer can't be Oda. Vagabond doesn't need me to be a fan.
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Lets not dip back into this
