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I can actually see the Germa saving the SH allies from events of the Reverie if they go south. I just don't know how south.
King and Queen from Kaido attacks for Poseidon?
Government reveales nasty inhumane way of keeping world order to which Vivi an co. Upright refuse labelled as traitors?
Revolutionaries?
@Count:
The only reason Luffy heading to the Reverie bothers me if because there is a very good chance he will not reunite with the rest of the crew before then. The amount of chapters the Swirly Hats were missing from Dressrosa is roughly equal to the length of the Whole Cake Island arc. And despite both halves of the crew not fully reuniting in Zou due to Sanji's absence, the Zou flashbacks still gave Sanji a heap of panel time focus to still feel like he was there. So throwing a Luffy + Swirly Hats Reverie visit lasting for at least several months onto Whole Cake Island makes the separation balance feel "uneven". Although I'm probably the only one who cares about this due to having OCD when it comes to fiction analysis. It is still difficult for me to see what reason there is for Luffy to embark there when Zoro and the others are waiting around Wano Country by now or how it serves the plot. And I just really want to see an arc focusing on the lives Luffy's affected without Luffy being there, to properly show how influential is and give great payoff on all of the worldbuilding Oda has done for decades.
Zoro: "We helped Luffy dethrone the most built-up Warlord in the series. What have you been up to, shitty cook?"
Sanji: "Nothing much, marimo. Just crashing an Emperor-sanctioned wedding in her own territory and the Council of Kings in the heart of the World Government."
Zoro: "…I'm still worth twice as many men than you."
I don't see why it would be equal when the last nakama lacks 900 of the chapters the Other SHs have. And even in present SHs, brook and jimbei lack like half of what luffy and zoro got or more? Anyone besides the original crew that luffy made fast in thee first 100 chapters or so( zoro ,sanji, nami, usopp, chopper).
It was never about equal in the crew, besides, the wano team will likely shine more in wano anyway, with franky building weapons for kaidou, zoro and his swordmanship in sworsmanship country, robin and kaidou's poneglyphs PLUS the 3 poneglyphs they bring from cake Island( copy).
@uniaka:
I don't see why it would be equal when the last nakama lacks 900 of the chapters the Others SHs have. And even in present SHs, brook and jimbei lack like half of what luffy and zoro got.
It was never about equal in the crew, besides, the wano team will likely shine more in wano anyway, with franky building weapons for kaidou, zoro and his swordmanship in sworsmanship country, robin and kaidou's poneglyphs PLUS the 3 poneglyphs they bring from cake Island( copy).
I'm not talking about equal screen time for all of the Straw Hats. I'm talking about equal screen time for the crew splitting in half in and of itself. This is less about the Straw Hats themselves and more plot focus. And I do know that it's petty to get upset over, but I would prefer a roughly equal balance between them. Sanji's half was gone for around 70-80 chapters, so Totland lasting for over 70 chapters is a perfect balance I would hardly call coincidental.
And I doubt that Zoro's team will do TOO MUCH in Wano Country since the Straw Hats still need to save the day when they arrive in present time. They'll definitely get involved in shenanigans, but Sanji's team was able to do so much in Zou because the Zou arc itself didn't have any loose end conflicts to resolve besides the samurai hate red herring. And Oda definitely will definitely want the Straw Hats to look like underdogs against Kaido rather than having a lot of convenient prep ready for taking him down by the time Luffy arrives.
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On the topic of Zoro… will Wano finally reveal what happened to his eye? Why, surely it must be revealed ”soon” (like, within 3 years).
Was greg article posted today?
So Luffy recognized Pekoms disguise last chapter.
As I recall this is the first time Luffy sees through someone's disguise.
It also the first time for Luffy to call Pekoms as Pekoms, he used to call him Pekomamushi.
This is clearly FS, Luffy just saw himself exiting MW disguised as Katakuri thanks to Twig's powers, Pekoms then reveals himself and proclaims Katakuri's victory to Cacao Island… from a corner he sees smoke going up, how is he able to be the only one to notice the smoke? FS obviously.
So Luffy recognized Pekoms disguise last chapter.
As I recall this is the first time Luffy sees through someone's disguise.Do you think this is some sort of character development/story detail that will be relevant later on, like captain John's treasure map bracelet, or Oda just decided to retire the gag/it wasn't usefull story wise to have the gag right now?
Luffy recognising Pekoms i__s the gag, man. Luffy forgets people he should probably remember when they appear in front of him, but if they try to disguise themselves he sees right through it. Remember Gangster Gastino? It's the exact same joke as that.
The real exception worth talking about is Sniper King, but I think that just plays more into the 'Luffy takes what Usopp says at face value' gag than the 'Luffy forgets people he should know' gag.
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Zacho,Order was basically confirmed at JF 2017 when he conveyed WCI-Reverie-Wano.
Thanks for the Response, man. So if it starts before Wano, Wano/Kaidou won't be a Topic.
That leaves the abandoning of the shichi-System and everything that sets up pieces for the end war.
It won't be "the" Trigger, it will be a Trigger for the end war.
If Riku now participates, that means, that Doffy participated the Reverie during the last 10 yrs. The 19 substituted kingdoms and Arabaster make 20 of those 50 countries.
I expect the 20 founder kings of the WG to make their ex-kingdoms part of the Reverie.
Hmm… As a postulation, how about a compromise between the "Reverie is split in half" and "Luffy goes to Reverie" ideas; that is, we see some interesting stuff, but ultimately not THE stuff of the Reverie, go to Wano and fight whatever there (Shogun, Samurai, Calamities, Weevil, Supernovas, etc.) and then find out "Ah fuck, Kaido wants to kidnap Poseidon/fuck up Mariejois (our friend, Vivi, is there) because he's insane! We gotta bolt there!" It would resolve the issue of being separated from the other half of the crew and honestly, in my opinion, spread Luffy's growth out in a somewhat more believable fashion. Even if Kaidou gets tag-teamed, I'd like to see Luffy get a little more "oomph!" in his step. And nothing screams "Raise the living fuck out of my bounty" more than destroying Mariejois and defeating a yonkou.
As a minor tidbit, I would be interested in seeing Jinbe's views in particular in essentially following in Fisher Tiger's footsteps and scaling the Red Line.
Edit: You could also rope Bonney into it since she has World Government connections. Fuck it, let's just have a Worst Generation dogpile on Kaido.
Edit 2: Also, we're still missing our compelling reason for why Luffy would give a shit to take down the World Government. I can't imagine Luffy caring anymore than Roger did about the Rio Poneglyph. Plant a few seeds for his incentive.
I don't think it's petty to get upset over. I want roughly equal plot focus for the all the Straw Hats too. I feel like if Luffy does go to the Reverie Oda will find some way to get the crew together. I really don't want the Straw Hats split apart for even one more adventure. It would be cruel to have Zoro, Usopp and Robin miss out on a potential reunion with Vivi. Especially Robin. I've had a theory for a while now that Robin's "7th Person" chapter is tied to Vivi.
I don't care how they all get there, Judge, Kuma or a combination of the two. I want the crew at Reverie all together gosh darnit!
While we're at it, let the word get out about Shirahoshi. Let Luffy protect her and in the process destroy the Eve Tree which would in turn begin to slowly destroy the island without it's life giving sunlight.
@Count:
I'm not talking about equal screen time for all of the Straw Hats. I'm talking about equal screen time for the crew splitting in half in and of itself. This is less about the Straw Hats themselves and more plot focus. And I do know that it's petty to get upset over, but I would prefer a roughly equal balance between them. Sanji's half was gone for around 70-80 chapters, so Totland lasting for over 70 chapters is a perfect balance I would hardly call coincidental.
And I doubt that Zoro's team will do TOO MUCH in Wano Country since the Straw Hats still need to save the day when they arrive in present time. They'll definitely get involved in shenanigans, but Sanji's team was able to do so much in Zou because the Zou arc itself didn't have any loose end conflicts to resolve besides the samurai hate red herring. And Oda definitely will definitely want the Straw Hats to look like underdogs against Kaido rather than having a lot of convenient prep ready for taking him down by the time Luffy arrives.
I think they're saying zoro and the wan team will get a lot more focus than the whole cake team during wano once everyone gets together
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
H x H Chimera Ant Arc / OP Manga Spoiler
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Luffy recognising Pekoms i__s the gag, man. Luffy forgets people he should probably remember when they appear in front of him, but if they try to disguise themselves he sees right through it. Remember Gangster Gastino? It's the exact same joke as that.
The real exception worth talking about is Sniper King, but I think that just plays more into the 'Luffy takes what Usopp says at face value' gag than the 'Luffy forgets people he should know' gag.
What happened with Foxy then?
What happened with Foxy then?
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
They were really shitty costumes and the probability Luffy will recognise someone is inversely proportionate to the amount of effort they put into hiding themselves from him? Get a new persona and name, he'll know you. Just slap a shitty mask on, totally fooled.
I know that's a stretch. Alternatively, Oda just does what he thinks will be funnier on a case by case basis.
I think they're saying zoro and the wan team will get a lot more focus than the whole cake team during wano once everyone gets together
At first, perhaps. Like Zou was for a couple dozen or so chapters. But I expect the focus to finally even out at some point. Probably by the time the crew finally reunites since I bet that will somehow be delayed for a very big moment during the arc.
Can someone give a better reason for Luffy to be in the Reverie that is not "Vivi is there!"?
Can someone give a better reason for Luffy to be in the Reverie that is not "Vivi is there!"?
Wapol is there 
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
H x H Chimera Ant Arc / OP Manga Spoiler
Spoiler:
I wss gonna say stelly but I remembered they never actually met
Luffy would probably be like:
"Sabo has a brother besides me and Ace?"
Luffy would probably be like:
"Sabo has a brother besides me and Ace?"
"Hey pal your sabo's brother too" grabs hand and shakes it vigourously
Both fishmen royals(ancient weapon princess) and alabasta royals are bound to get in trouble at reverie, also vinsmokes, sabo since he has to meet his bro again. Those are more then enough reasons for luffy to want to get there, also jimbei and sanji. But how would he find out about it idk, maybe in the newspaper? And that would be more like after reverie arc. Or he will just use his new power he got from the battle with katakuri, to see the future. Or Sabo or fishmen contact luffy for some reason.
I see more the reverie as a zou kind of arc. A short one with Lot’s of revelation and the bonus to see some old faces, so I don’t see why would luffy go back all the way there.
Biggest reason would be that we never had an arc without Luffy being involved.
So Oda breaking his habit here sure is questionable, but when thinking about it, what better time there is.
We have side characters that could handle a volume on their own, especially when this sets the future development of the world in motion and Luffy being a central point of discussion, after creating a havoc on WCI.
I personally would enjoy Oda including some fresh ideas by not centering around Luffy, but he always said his story is about Luffy, so him being absent couldn´t be done for much more than a volume.
Also Oda having killed Pedro or not, would be a change of his usual style, which we were proven again and again to be the way he handles things.
Pedro being not developed enough would make it easier on us readers to lose him, but so far Oda just killed off a person when it was essential for the overall story development and when this character was
fleshed out enough.
Pedro having shortened his life by 50 years and fulfilling his wish to give the future a bump in the right way, seem to me good enough reasons to let him die here, but reading and by that knowing Oda for such a long time, it sure makes it highly questionable that he will bring himself this time to do it.
Oda has his style and we should thank Oda that he sticks to it, but i would assume his editors tell him what the community thinks sometimes and so i think it´s likely that Oda messes with our expectations and would be capable off changing his style from time to time to keep it fresh, as long as his core concept isn´t ruined by that.
So Pedro stays dead and Luffy won´t join the Reverie are my bold guesses 
My take is Luffy will not be present in the Reverie but his deeds will be mentioned (in Arabasta, Dressrosa, Fishman Island, etc.).
Reason to go to Redline.
I did propose a reason but it might have been tucked in among other things.
Germa hauls them there b/c Sunny isn't in open sea sailing condition.
They need a good reason why Germa can't do it though. Possibly b/c Mom wrecks their stuff. Which would be beautiful having them forced to start a new beginning.
Either way this only tides Sunny over until Franky needs more Adam Tree wood from Elbaf as one of Big Mom's attacks, coincidentally enough, cut into the same vertical slice of the ship where the extra Adam wood is stored.
But again, let it be said that if Reverie really only is 4-5 chaps (which judging by Oda's timeline it does not appear to be) then I do not believe there's any reason for Oda to drag our hero laterally and literally back in the world.
Well I could see part 1 being 4-5 chapters and another part 2 after Wano with 3-4 chapters more for volume length. Where itbget tricky is how much Oda expands on it as he goes, and could the Reverie be two volumes long, and if so, why, and will it be divided?
I'd really prefer SH were out of it.
Give us more Revolutionaries maybe.
I'm not on board, taking Luffy to the worst place he could be without his full crew, or with him not ready to wreck it completelly.
At this point only Smoothie, Oven or Big Mom could face the Vinsmokes, but to wreck their port beyond what is needed to patch the Sunny for a voyage to wano, but not to hold and hide the sunny while they go over the grand line, or leave the sunny and the snails in Mari-port, and the crew goes up to the reverie? Or to abandon the sunny in a random safe port and go to the reverie? Or to hurt enough snails to leave Germa without enough to loan to the strawhats?
I'm not seeing your line of thought.
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I also think that the Sunny being partially destroyed will be for thenother half of the crew to understand the severity of going against an emperor. It would also help if Luffy is unconscious. So that could be a way for him to be out of the story.
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I think Reverie is a good opportunity to see some of Luffy's future allies and enemies in more prominent roles. While they're discussing the future of the world and maybe providing some long awaited info on the current state of things. We're at a point where Oda can't simply hide some things any more. Not that I expect he won't leave some stuff hanging in the air for later.
Feel like bringing SH in to the mix wouldn't add much to the story. Barging into the center of WG deserves a lot more buildup and investment than we and SH will have time for.
Maxter,
Luffy going to the worst possible place actually argues in favor of it ^0^
Re. Reverie being split, doesn't fit Oda's proposed timeline.
I'm not saying that his prediction was set in stone. I'm just saying his predictions have always run long and last summer he said it was 1-2 years to Wano.
A lot could have changed but that's what even got me started thinking about Reverie length and how that applies to Luffy's role in it. If we're to bdlieve this timeline at its shortest that's 3-4 months of a story with no Luffy which is at least a full tank of a story w/o Luffy.
He's come close to that in New World but that's still a lot of Luffyless manga.
I reiterate, I hope he does that.
I just don't know if he can.
I'm not on board, taking Luffy to the worst place he could be without his full crew, or with him not ready to wreck it completelly.
At this point only Smoothie, Oven or Big Mom could face the Vinsmokes, but to wreck their port beyond what is needed to patch the Sunny for a voyage to wano, but not to hold and hide the sunny while they go over the grand line, or leave the sunny and the snails in Mari-port, and the crew goes up to the reverie? Or to abandon the sunny in a random safe port and go to the reverie? Or to hurt enough snails to leave Germa without enough to loan to the strawhats?
I'm not seeing your line of thought.
Any of these plotlines feel like they would end up making the arc longer than expected. If only to deal with all the complexities of luffy and the strawhats being there with a badly damaged ship and having to stay undercover for a decent amount of time. With Oda perhaps feeling like he doesnt want egg on his face again after the Wano IN 2017 announcement, I think including luffy in it would risk him doing just that.
Plus the reveries doesnt have to have 10 chapters without luffy in a row.
Either way, I'm really looking forward to the Reverie. It astounds me that there are so many people that think it's going to just be boring political talk. There's way too much evidence that shit is going to hit the fan. Wapol, Revos, Kaido (Shirahoshi), Germa, Stelly, Cobra asking questions he shouldn't be, take your pick!
And that's not even mentioning the other kings, marines or world nobles. I would be astounded if Reverie goes off without a hitch. Dumbfounded.
Does Wano participate in that meeting, or were they not part of the WG? Or maybe nothing has been stated in this matter. I got the impression that they were a bit secluded due to Kinnemon’s behaviour.
Just thinking how they could play a role in this.
Does Wano participate in that meeting, or were they not part of the WG? Or maybe nothing has been stated in this matter. I got the impression that they were a bit secluded due to Kinnemon’s behaviour.
Just thinking how they could play a role in this.
Wano is currently unaffiliated with the World Government.
With Oda perhaps feeling like he doesnt want egg on his face again after the Wano IN 2017 announcement
Nah. That's not a part of it at all. His message was literally, "Yeah I said that last year….SO WHAT!?" ^o^
Either way I really hope Luffy isn't involved but if he is, all I can hope for is that Oda makes it entertaining.
Nah. That's not a part of it at all. His message was literally, "Yeah I said that last year….SO WHAT!?" ^o^
Either way I really hope Luffy isn't involved but if he is, all I can hope for is that Oda makes it entertaining.
I feel ot can be but with oda if luffy goes to the reverie I can see it being 25 chapters, aka the soze of drum or impel down rather than the volume approach, or half volume approach if there is a split
I dont think there's time for luffy to crash it, go to wano, beat kaido and have the evnt still going on
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
H x H Chimera Ant Arc / OP Manga Spoiler
Spoiler:
I dont think there's time for luffy to crash it, go to wano, beat kaido and have the evnt still going on
Probably not.
But that's actually fairly simple for Oda to control as the author however he sees fit by skipping around in time as it best fits the story as we saw him do at Zou.
(I feel the need to add this every time but not that I like this idea, it's simply a possible explanation)
My 'prediction' for the Reverie still stands at BB (or his crew) coming to mess things up (perhaps related to Mingo's secret) but without us seeing any results.
See….it's probably not a coincidence that Wano is IN A VACUUM when it comes to world events. As soon as they reach it, consider them out of contact with world events unless Denden Mushi are being used to call specific people.
While this depends on timing, BB (or his crew) showing up at the end of Wano to finish off Kaido for good seems to polish things off nicely after which time we'll learn about what happened at Reverie. Frannky will need Adam Tree wood to repair Sunny, we go to Elbaf, Mom catches up. Showdown between giants and BMPC, things get resolved with BMPC when BB (likely himself) shows up and knock over that ridiculously large tree w/ his crew and makes an enemy of Mom/disables her leaving only Shanks.
That's still what I think will happen if things aren't settled w/ Mom in this arc but a good deal of that depends on Luffy not going to Reverie.
I'm really glad I am not the only one, who isn't a huge fan of "Luffy goes to Reverie".
If he went there, the wole Thing would get a "Luffy is gonna somehow save the day"-feeling.
For this Reverie I personally would prefer more "despair", as I think we will learn more disgusting stuff about the WG. Since EL, a lot of "not-cool" stuff has been revealed about the WG. Tolerating slavery, killing babies of criminals and so on.
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I thought again about what could be Croc's weakness. As much as I like the "Croc was once a Girl"-theory, I can't Support it as a "weakness" anymore. It might be embarassing for him, but that is not a classic weakness you can use well against him (like in a fight).
I thought maybe he has some Kind of phobia, like mice or snakes (I excluded Spiders, b/c Spider's cafe).
Would be funny if he is afraid of some Kind of animal AND it could be the reason why he lost his Hand.
Imagine a mouse (or any other small creature) climbed on his Hand and out of pure fear he chopped his own Hand off.
OR he can't stand the Sound of Scratching on a chalkboard (what Usoppe did in Alubarna). Wouldn't explain the missing Hand though.
@Greg
I still think that the WG and the Shoguns of Wano had an Agreement since centuries, that no one is allowed to enter or leave Wano. After all the masons live there and at least one Person per Generation can read the poneglyphs. Oden probably became a criminal in the Moment he left Wano.
Cause if even marines aren't allowed to go there, and if Wano hasn't been BusterCall'd yet, an inofficial Agreement seems quite plausible.
This has been a very interesting discussion the last few pages. Some thoughts from me:
1. The comment by Oda by Oda that entering Wano Arc will take at least 1 - 2 years from last year is peculiar indeed. There are some possibilities regarding this.
2. Regarding Wano arc, I think it's best to think of Wano as the arc (I've proposed this several times) where Oda wants to resolve as many New World plotlines as possible. The Strawhats and Minks will play a role, as will the Kid-Apoo-Hawkins alliance (since they were likely defeated by Kaido and then joined him like Apoo or are captured by him as we saw with Kid) with Kid probably playing an emphasized role like Law in Dressrosa. In addition to that we have Marco and the others, if Teach shows up him and the Blackbeard Pirates and if the Blackbeard Pirates show up probably Kuzan will too since he is allied with them. And if Marco, Teach and Luffy are there… Why shouldn't Weevil appear also? Would be convenient.
And we'll learn more about Shanks and the Roger Pirates in the Oden flashback. And of course the whole plot with Kaido and the Shogun and the country itself.
3. So Wano is already filled to the max with characters and plots. I think we can expect it in length to be comparable to the Water 7/Enies Lobby saga. I mean seriously, this is maybe the arc Oda wants to draw the most, it's the highlight of the New World and he probably even underestimated the length of WCI. So given his habits and the fact that he has hyped this arc to no end, the final length of Wano should be considered to be enormous.
4. Which makes the comment all more peculiar, since if Wano is supposed to be that massive - and we can assume given what we know that it will be - wouldn't the author be keen on getting there as soon as possible? No, he himself said it will take some time to get there.
5. Now there are several possibilites: First, he really makes Reverie (which will likely be the venue to give us more on the Elder Stars and of course show us Mariejois) a pretty long arc about 30 chapters. He either breaks with this habits and this will be a Luffy-less arc or he lets Luffy crash it.
6. Or, just a suggestion: If Wano is supposed to be this super-serious, stakes-raised-to-no-end thing, could it be that he shoves a small Strawhat Arc before to give us some breathing space? I remind that Longring Long Island and the Davy Back Fight specifically had that function before the very serious Water7 and it worked (when you re-read it) pretty good. Something like 15-20 chapters. Reverie wouldn't need to be so long then, if we had this additional arc.
6. I and others like Count Mario suggested that Wano could basically be sandwiched between Wano, ending with a clifhanger and then cutting to Wano and after Wano we see the results of it. Given the timeline-to-Wano comment, I think Oda intends to show the most of it before Wano, but he could still wrap it up after Wano in a few chapters.
7. This is relevant given what we can expect to be one outcome of the Reverie and this has been teased pretty obviously: The Shichibukai system will end, maybe under pressure from the kingdoms which were victims of it. And with Kaido falling at the end of Wano, I've always thought it was a good idea to do this simultaneously, so the effect on the One Piece world would be maximum. The Shichibukai system and (with Kaido being defeated) the Yonko system come down together and after then it's complete chaos. So Wano ends with Kaido defeated, cut to the end of Reverie after it, the Shichibukai system comes also down. Would be very dramatic.
8. I have to say that the possibility of Luffy coming to the Reverie sounds very odd to me. First that would be backtracking to the Red Line and with the exception of Sabaody, which was connected with the exception of the time-skip, we have never backtracked. The story has always moved forward on the Grand Line. Some commentors are arguing that an arc without Luffy would be something completely new, but so would be backtracking. Especially if one half of the crew is already in Wano or seems to be on the way. If we now go to the Reverie and we don't get the other side of the crew, Oda basically favours the Swirlyhats. For now this was not the case, since both sides got around 70 - 80 chapters alone on an island (with the exception of protagonist Luffy, who's always there) and I'm pretty sure that was intentional (the time on Dressrosa we spend without the Swirlyhats seems to equal the time on WCI we spend with the Swirlyhats). Either he lets Luffy crash Reverie alone if he does this and the Swirlyhats go to Wano or Oda specifically gives one part of the crew more adventures than the others. And if only Luffy appears at reverie, he would miss at least a certain amount of the Wano arc, since he had to go from the Red Line to Wano. And Luffy has to appear at Wano one point or another. So why complicate this by him going to the Reverie?
9. I would also mention the potential of Vivi. I mean, the departure from her at the end of Alabasta certainly has something (in terms of emotional impact) that many part-time allies lack. She could be the audience's protagonist for the Reverie, especially since we know her character. What if Oda really intends to go to the Reverie without someone of the crew and always had Vivi as the audience's viewpoint (and also someone who is connected to the crew) for this event in mind? Especially, so he can make an arc without Luffy for once. I mean reverie doesn't have to be longer than 15-20 chapters. Thats most of the time enough for Oda to make a place feel alive. And yeah, an arc, even a short one, without Luffy? Sounds strange, but then Reverie is really something special. I would place it, almost on the same stage impact-wise, as when we're going to see Raftel.
10. Luffy crashing the Reverie and taking the spotlight... Wouldn't it make someone like Blackbeard appearing there make less effective? And repetitive? Since we already had such a situation (Impel Down).
I also would add the option of Kaido crashing it. X Drake has captured Caribou, who knows about Shirahoshi being Poseidon. Kaido wants military might to start build up his force. If X Drake knows, Kaido probably knows. Kaido is introduced as a man, who does reckless things no ones dares to do. What if he appears at reverie to capture Shirahoshi (which would raise the stakes atomically)? Would also make for a nice cliffhanger if the Reverie ends on this before Wano, since things Kaido does there, would directly effect the Wano arc.
11. The one year comment could also mean that Oda gave himself some time to effectively wrap up WCI, which will now presumably go longer than 900 and also that he needs some extra chapters where he shows what happens in various locations in the New World in preperation with Wano. Together with a short Reverie (15 - 20 chapters) and a short Strawhat centric breather arc... Could fit. Then again, he only mentioned WCI-reverie-Wano, so no other place was indicated there... :getlost:
Carrot's still never gonna join the crew. 
@BBH
I totally agree with you in Point 9.
Even after the BW-saga, Vivi has been established as SH in countless cover-pics.
Makin her the Protagonist at the Reverie would be totally fine with me.
If anyone is invading Reverie, I'd agree with Greg and say BB.
Caribou said a certain Person would be glad to hear of Poseidon and Caribou's cover Story indicated that this Person ain't Kaidou. Kaidou could still know about it by now, though.
I still hope for a conflict between Dalton and Wapol.
Aside from abandoning the Shichi-System, they have to discuss a lot of other things:
-the biggest ID-Breakout (with Lvl-6-prisoners being free now)
-the destruction of EL
-the aftermath of the summit war (WB's speech brought other pirates)
The WG has lost a lot of face since the last Reverie. And Luffy often seems to be the one responsible for that.
Sorry for asking if it has been stated previously in the thread (it's quite long now), but is there any particular reason why you, Greg, think it is likely that BB will possibly kill off Kaido?
I prefer the Beast Pirates invading the Reverie. Caribou is probably working for Teach, but he probably hasn't told Teach who Poseidon is yet. Meanwhile, he could have already told Kaido that. Kaido tried to invade Marineford, so the Reverie is still fair game. And focusing on the Beast Pirates at the Reverie allows a good segue to both Wano Country and Jack's rescue. Blackbeard can still invade Wano Country if Carobou finds sone way to escape Kaido and call Teach like Burgess did at Baltigo.
Plus, I really want to see Queen and/or King invading the Reverie to ask why they weren't invited to the Council of Kings as a name pun gag lol.
I'm fine with Teach invading the Reverie, but I don't see what ties him to there as much as Kaido could be. At least not yet. Teach can show up at Elbaf though, definitely.
Nobody should invade the Reverie… Mariejois is the final stone to shatter in OP... but if suddenly Teach appears demanding Mariejois' National Treasure in exchange for Dragon to all. I happily put my opinions in a pocket, that would be outrageously awesome!!!
For hype sake, any shit can happen at shonens.
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He recognized Gastino. I think it is Oda's way of saying: their customes are bad!
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It also the first time for Luffy to call Pekoms as Pekoms, he used to call him Pekomamushi.
This is clearly FS, Luffy just saw himself exiting MW disguised as Katakuri thanks to Twig's powers, Pekoms then reveals himself and proclaims Katakuri's victory to Cacao Island… from a corner he sees smoke going up, how is he able to be the only one to notice the smoke? FS obviously.
Luffy recognising Pekoms i__s the gag, man. Luffy forgets people he should probably remember when they appear in front of him, but if they try to disguise themselves he sees right through it. Remember Gangster Gastino? It's the exact same joke as that.
The real exception worth talking about is Sniper King, but I think that just plays more into the 'Luffy takes what Usopp says at face value' gag than the 'Luffy forgets people he should know' gag.
I remembered everyone else recognizing Gastino but not Luffy, my bad there.
But I guess your comments make sense, the overall gag wasn't that Luffy never recognizes masked people.
Yeah, I mean they are even worse than Sogeking. But at the same time, sometimes I like to belueve that Luffy knows it is Usopp, he just isbthat type of friend that supports all your bullshit.
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I suggest BB as the invader b/c I think he needs a way to put himself in the sights of the world as we know it.
We know Luffy has beef with him already and yeah, he's a feared pirate, but he needs to do something that shows he'll put the world in jeopardy and Reverie is a grand stage for that.
As for it being the Beasts, I like how Oda could use that to explain why King, Queen or Jack aren't present and letting them arrive mid-arc to raise the stakes. But I don't know if Oda would hype villains from the very next arc in interim chapters. He usually deals with villains 1 or more arcs later.
As for why I think BB will kill Kaido, Kaido was set up as a character who wants to die. In a strange way it seems to be one of his dreams.
Look at the title of his reveal chap.
Interestingly enough, another character who might actually be dead also talked frequently about acceptance of death, and not in a macho way.
Luffy ain't gonna do it, that's for sure.
What better way to show Luffy (and us) what he's now capable of by taking out Kaido after Luffy defeats him while possibly swinging back from Reverie.
Plus, Kaido wouldn't let BB live if he started acting up which means the unsavory thought of not two but THREE Emperors (if not allied) fighting on the same side against BB. That's far too imbalanced, esp if Shanks is still alive.
Basically?
'One gotta go.'
Blackbeard or Dragon make more sense to crash the Reverie.
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