@Kishido said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
I don't see Yamato even close to Vivi. Last chapter gives Momo the most Vivi treatment while Yamato isn't treated different as for example Kinemon.
You're free to see it how you like but the parallel stands:
A character postured to join, accepted by the crew, teased as joining....and does not at the very last minute. Whether you feel connected or not is different, everyone will feel different about Yamato that way. But how it was handled was the same.
Instead of merely singling one character out, it's more apt to say that Oda gave all three of them - Momonosuke, Kinemon, and Yamato - the Vivi treatment, since Luffy handed the invitation to the three to have them on board in the future if they want to be pirates.
There's no setup/expectation for Kin or Momo from the story. If you have personal expectations that's different, but those are personal expectations, not something Oda established as part of the narrative.
"Me the reader wants and/or expects Momo to join."
Is different from:
Momo: Luffy I want to join you.
That's why I said Vivi specifically.
arc fatigue
Yes, it probably exists, but no, I don't think Oda ever lets it affect what he tries to present. Oda gets frustrated like anyone else, I'm pretty sure he wants to be done with the story more than any other person, but he is FIERCELY dedicated to fans. This might not seem to gel with....
Oda writing for new/casual fans feels weird.
Yes, I agree, however, his theory is that while he's always writing for new casual fans, his old fans will stay because he's telling his story the same way. That is to say, he's not changing it up to be hip or cool, or the J.K. Rowling 'growing with readers' he's always writing from the same perspective for the same target.
Now, that may vary from course here and there. There are of course variant paths he takes along the way, but he is staunchly opposed to writing for self-fulfillment. I know this might sound contradictory to some points I've raised about Oda's ethic and goals but that's why I'm constantly saying 'there's no black and white' to this.
'm not sure it's really the economical side of things that motivate him.
See above. No, economics do not bother Oda.
At the same time, he, literally one man, is holding up an entire industry within an industry. Yeah, he has a team but you can't imagine still how small the team is compared to the tasks in front of them. Economics do not motivate him. But he also has to possess a smart, discerning, and entertaining business mind.
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why for are some ppl angry over born to burn?
The manufactured trigger-happy rage is really something these days.
"We need to understand and accept more from cultures and-F%%KYOUODAYOUREBASICALLYHITLERRRRRRRRR!!!!!!"
sigh
- The Kurozumis were buttholes. At least the majority of the ones we met. If Oda wanted them all to be a wicked line (as I wish he did) then he could have avoided the Tama thread.
but that's so meeeeean.
Real life and dynasties (mordern or otherwise) are mean. As they exist, the Kozuki are practically saints compared to any "Powerful person of the world list" that exists. If we were given a family line that is supposed to be evil, they're evil. That happens. Entire lines and even groups of people can be evil.
But that's moot because Oda decided to give them redeeming qualities.
- The "I'm offended." emotional tic has become, "This is my chance to be internet famous!" and people are letting ignorance drive rage.
One of the most famous Kung Fu films of all time....
'Enter the Dragon'
It's title in Japanese is not 'Enter the Dragon', it's 'Moeyo, Dragon' or 'Blaze[burn] on, Dragon!' Same 'moeru' base verb as used here.
The West just hears, "Burn a people." and goes into f%%king attack mode to get some clicks. This isn't let's defend Japan weeb happy love love hour. It's, they literally don't understand what they're reading and how it can impact native-speaking readers because they're ignorant to something.
Saying 'the Kurozumo were meant to burn[blaze]' is a joke, sure, that's the most basic level of comprehension you'd get from the usual suspects.
But consider what that means for Tama.
When Tama is Ninja Gaiden-ing her way through an enemy force someday she can JUST AS EASILY shout the EXACT SAME PHRASE and it would be f###ing badass. "We Kurosumi...were born to blaaaaze!" Every bit as when Oden said his variant. I guarantee you Oda intended this chance for the phrase to be turned on its head.
But nope, gotta get people angry.