Have we seen a devil fruit that can do illusions? I guess nami kind of has that except so far we’ve only seen her make illusions of herself
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Have we seen a devil fruit that can do illusions? I guess nami kind of has that except so far we’ve only seen her make illusions of herself
Non-canon, but Ann from Stampede has that fruit.
While not in canon, but there's a bunch that have some illusive effects. Copying appearances of other people (Bon-chan, Brulee, Catarina), molding appearances out of whatever (Mr 3, Kanjuro), and Kizaru has control over light so he should technically be able to make em.
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Imagine if his outfit or weapon ate Cora's fruit.
Or what if his fruit is the superior class version of corazon's fruit, just like Baby5 and Daz Bones, and with awakening he can conceal both the sound and himself with invisibility.
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Greg did you ever say what you thought happened to Vivi?
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I haven't given it too much thought for a few reasons.
1.Oda admitted a few years back in his Manga is a Wonderland series of tidbits that Vivi was tagged onto the story. This means he's had to figure out how to place her in the larger story, rather than having an idea for her from the start. Even if her role is taking the place of something/someone else he had in mind, he's still fitting her to the story rather than the other way around so I'm not trying to think too hard on her situation.
2. Since seeing Imu have something with her and the fact that the Nefertali (sp?) family opted out of Celestial status AAAAAND her striking resemblance to her mother (which even though Cobra may have married outside established royalty, Oda can still fit that into place) I've always imagined that Imu's thing is less with Vivi proper, but maybe the Nefertali (sp?) lineage in general and she's going to bear the brunt of Imu's infatuation/revenge/whatever.
I think this chap finally helps me understand how this will all conclude. I could TOTALLY be off on this, but not since Leo has this type of resolution felt so on point.(lol and I was totally wrong about Leo)
Luffy will eventually trounce Kaido (not saying next chap necessarily) and Kaido might even be KO'd which would give us our falling island dilemma we needed. This gives Momo and/or Zunisha (sp) the opportunity to save the island. Now…even if that's where team Momotarou stops, I suppose it checked off enough boxes along the way among the team to have fulfilled the story, but....I simply cannot imagine Oda leaves Momo without the chance to strike Kaido. (Same for Leo...so...lol)
His declaration that he wanted to beat him, along with his character/family/history require that moment.
After Kaido is KO'd I fully expect him to return messed up in the Flower Capital SOON after the island resolution. Not talking chapters down the line, I mean just about when everyone is ready to finally relax and Luffy has effectively been disabled.
At this time, in front of the people in Wano, I think Kaido's injuries and the mental link when he sees adult Momo looking similar to Oden are what he'll finally need to get some peace of mind and be struck down with 'sunacchi'. Not killed, just struck down. Yams and Marco being involved would be chef's kiss. More for Yams though than Marco.
For Momo's right to rule, he really needs to do that. As Momo is now, even if he saves the island, it's not enough for him to take the seat of shogun if he doesn't do what his father did.
The only way I see Oda working around that is if he gives Momo some chance to show self-sacrifice MUCH later in the story on an even more grand scale but…my God Oda, if you don't take this opportunity to wrap this chapter of his story here, what're you doin buddy?
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but not since Leo has this type of resolution felt so on point.(lol and I was totally wrong about Leo)
Just curiosity, but what did you expect from Leo?
(As for Momo, I don't expect him to strike down Kaido, but I feel he will literally carry Onigashima himself rather than using flame clouds, in a paralel to the metaphor of him "carrying Wano on his shoulders". Like, I think he will wrap his body around Onigashima's bottom and hold it up with pure strength of will.)
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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Leo's people were enslaved by the Doflamingo lineage historically and in modern times so he was ripe for giving Mingo what for at some point. What's more, Leo, of all people, has what is very likely Mingo's fruit's weakness.
Mingo is strings but Leo can sew anything. He was perfectly set up to make Mingo defenseless when it was most needed at some dramatic turn.
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I'm still of the opinion that Hiyori is the secret pheasant and Marco's been a red herring. She fits the thematic ties so much more cleanly and she has a bird all over her outfits. Her, Momo, and Yamato (all sort of children of Oden) being part of the Momotaro group makes so much more sense to me thematically than just… random guy with a bird transformation with no real connection to the arc.
Same way Dogstorm being the dog was just... there. Like yeah he fits the role but not really?
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So Greg no Kaido flashback and awakening ? We got Orochi and Kanjuro resurrecting 10 times but no Kaido flashback ? Oda with his priorities again…
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@Joy:
So Greg no Kaido flashback and awakening ? We got Orochi and Kanjuro resurrecting 10 times but no Kaido flashback ? Oda with his priorities again…
The arc isn't over yet. Unless you think the next hit is actually the finisher, but there's very little to indicate that dramatically speaking.
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The arc isn't over yet. Unless you think the next hit is actually the finisher, but there's very little to indicate that dramatically speaking.
I think it’s pretty clear it’s the end. Kaido pulled his last attacks and they weren’t enough. Now it’s Luffys time for the finisher.
Also how is Oda supposed to include those things at the moment when the fight is on its climax ?
That joy boy has returned chapter really hurt the climax of the arc
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I'm thinking if there's a Kaido flashback it'll be after he's beaten, maybe as he falls, like King's mini one. Just feels more obvious than drawing out the pace of the fight even further at this late stage.
That, or it happens as the final blow comes in and ends with a hard cut back to the present as Kaido is annihilated, like what Chopper's flashback did with the first hit of the Wapol fight.
Not sure why there's so much certainty that a flashback is incompatible with the fight actually ending.
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@Joy:
I think it’s pretty clear it’s the end. Kaido pulled his last attacks and they weren’t enough. Now it’s Luffys time for the finisher.
Also how is Oda supposed to include those things at the moment when the fight is on its climax ?
That joy boy has returned chapter really hurt the climax of the arc
Kaido has one move left(something related to Acala) and I expect it to clash with Luffy's punch. If Oda has any long( at least 2 chapters worth) flashback in mind, then that will be the time of it to appear before we see Kaido falling. Else there will be a short flashback afterwards. But either way, there will be a flashback of his Rocks days. That's what I believe.
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@Joy:
I think it’s pretty clear it’s the end. Kaido pulled his last attacks and they weren’t enough. Now it’s Luffys time for the finisher.
Also how is Oda supposed to include those things at the moment when the fight is on its climax ?
That joy boy has returned chapter really hurt the climax of the arc
We haven't yet gotten the "this is going kill all the civilians" desperation of the birdcage, alabasta bombs, smoke monster, the ship falling on fishman island, sunrise before the shadowless die, etc. (In this case, likely "the island is falling and we can't stop it anymore")
Even if Kaidou has been switching on his awakening in brief bursts, we haven't had him make that clear yet. After Dofla, Katakuri, Law, Kidd, and obviously now Luffy, Oda should be very clear when Kaidou does his awakening, and when pulls out his strongest move.
When Kaidou pulls out his biggest strongest move, he'll state that in dialoge. "I never use this because it ends fights too quickly" or ""Even I can't control this!" or "Just who do you think you are?!? I'll show you true power!" because that's how these things work. And he's almost at that point. He's starting to say things like that and is running out of breath. When he gets to THAT move, whatever it is, that's when we're at the actual climax.
Enel's giant death ball, Moria's shadow Asguard, Croc's poison, Hodi's steroids, Wapol comically NOT getting his ultimate move, etc.
We also haven't gotten the big Momotaro moment or Kaidou seeing Momo grown and looking like Oden.
We have not yet seen Kaidou pulling out his stated strongest move or the moment where it was possible everything is lost. Sure maybe Oda slips and misses the target that he's consistently nailed for 25 years, he misses sometimes, , and everyone is tired by how long this fight has gone now, but just given track record and how escalation always works in these kinds of stories, we're not quite on the final blows yet.
Flashback should be when that happens.
My guess is Luffy DOES hit Kaidou with that giant mega fist and that's enough to put what looks like actual real damage on him for the first time, maybe break a horn or sever his tail or something, and then drives the push to use his strongest attack. But Luffy's bound to run out of energy any second and NOT be able to finish this, and need a little more support to get that last reprieve.
If the giant fist was going to be the actual finisher, that would have landed this chapter instead of being the cliffhanger that escalates the battle.
We also still need the payoff for whatever setup those floating lanterns is going to be that Oda's been putting in motion for like 30 chapters that should be reaching them any moment now.
We're near the finale but we're not quite there yet. If there's 2 chapters to go or 12, I don't know, but we're not quite there. It's possible it ends next chapter but it doesn't seem like its quiiiite there yet.
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Leo's people were enslaved by the Doflamingo lineage historically and in modern times so he was ripe for giving Mingo what for at some point. What's more, Leo, of all people, has what is very likely Mingo's fruit's weakness.
Mingo is strings but Leo can sew anything. He was perfectly set up to make Mingo defenseless when it was most needed at some dramatic turn.
That's an interesting thought.
@Joy:
So Greg no Kaido flashback and awakening ? We got Orochi and Kanjuro resurrecting 10 times but no Kaido flashback ? Oda with his priorities again…
RIght now, I'm inclined to think that we may see some key snippets of Kaido's past as he's hit by the final attack, kinda like Big Mom thinking of Roger as she fell, but a little longer and with pictures. Something to cap the character off, but not a real flashback.
If that's the case, we may still see a Rocks flashback in a later arc.
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I'm of a similar opinion, any Kaidou flashback at this stage will be a few pages at most just as the fist is demolishing him. Even the Noland/Calgara flashback, the poster child for last-minute context giving, came during a deliberate break inbetween Luffys rounds with Enel allowing for just enough time for things to quickly escalate again before the final punch. Luffy v Kaidou had two such available clean breaks where an extended flashback could've been put, doing it now would be feel doing Noland/Calgara after Luffy jumps off the falling giant Jack
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Joy Boy has early access to the rest of the arc and refuses to share. Sad! :sad:
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@Daz:
I'm of a similar opinion, any Kaidou flashback at this stage will be a few pages at most just as the fist is demolishing him. Even the Noland/Calgara flashback, the poster child for last-minute context giving, came during a deliberate break inbetween Luffys rounds with Enel allowing for just enough time for things to quickly escalate again before the final punch. Luffy v Kaidou had two such available clean breaks where an extended flashback could've been put, doing it now would be feel doing Noland/Calgara after Luffy jumps off the falling giant Jack
The moment when Kaido hit Luffy due to CP-0 intervention was perfect for a flashback, by the way. A moment of personal distress, and just after he had remembered his first encounter with Big Mom. Yet…
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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The moment when Kaido hit Luffy due to CP-0 intervention was perfect for a flashback, by the way. A moment of personal distress, and just after he had remembered his first encounter with Big Mom. Yet…
That would have been a TERRIBLE time for a flashback given the Gear 5 change right after. Switching from Luffy being beaten to a long long pause and then coming back to surprise weeks or months later revival and new form would have been even jankier than it already was.
You don't stop for a long flashback at any point that will truly interrupt the tension and dramatic build, especially since you need to rebuild it after the pause.
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We haven't yet gotten the "this is going kill all the civilians" desperation of the birdcage, alabasta bombs, smoke monster, the ship falling on fishman island, sunrise before the shadowless die, etc. (In this case, likely "the island is falling and we can't stop it anymore")
Even if Kaidou has been switching on his awakening in brief bursts, we haven't had him make that clear yet. After Dofla, Katakuri, Law, Kidd, and obviously now Luffy, Oda should be very clear when Kaidou does his awakening, and when pulls out his strongest move.
When Kaidou pulls out his biggest strongest move, he'll state that in dialoge. "I never use this because it ends fights too quickly" or ""Even I can't control this!" or "Just who do you think you are?!? I'll show you true power!" because that's how these things work. And he's almost at that point. He's starting to say things like that and is running out of breath. When he gets to THAT move, whatever it is, that's when we're at the actual climax.
Enel's giant death ball, Moria's shadow Asguard, Croc's poison, Hodi's steroids, Wapol comically NOT getting his ultimate move, etc.
We also haven't gotten the big Momotaro moment or Kaidou seeing Momo grown and looking like Oden.
We have not yet seen Kaidou pulling out his stated strongest move or the moment where it was possible everything is lost. Sure maybe Oda slips and misses the target that he's consistently nailed for 25 years, he misses sometimes, , and everyone is tired by how long this fight has gone now, but just given track record and how escalation always works in these kinds of stories, we're not quite on the final blows yet.
Flashback should be when that happens.
My guess is Luffy DOES hit Kaidou with that giant mega fist and that's enough to put what looks like actual real damage on him for the first time, maybe break a horn or sever his tail or something, and then drives the push to use his strongest attack. But Luffy's bound to run out of energy any second and NOT be able to finish this, and need a little more support to get that last reprieve.
If the giant fist was going to be the actual finisher, that would have landed this chapter instead of being the cliffhanger that escalates the battle.
We also still need the payoff for whatever setup those floating lanterns is going to be that Oda's been putting in motion for like 30 chapters that should be reaching them any moment now.
We're near the finale but we're not quite there yet. If there's 2 chapters to go or 12, I don't know, but we're not quite there. It's possible it ends next chapter but it doesn't seem like its quiiiite there yet.
I agree with you when it comes to the "one big final villain attack or form" idea, and I used to agree with the "Island will fall now!" idea too, but now I'm doubting it.
Oda has been going out of his way in the past few chapters to defuse the bomb, so to speak, he did not only put out the fire, he also potentially created a way for the Samurai to evacuate the flying island (the lanterns). Not to mention how he called back to the citizen's dialogue about how great it would be to wake up tomorrow to a freed Wano (this time having the citizens talk about how tomorrow they will surely be slaves again). Kaido may yet be beaten right in front of the citizens, but I am beginning to have a suspicion that the island threat will essentially gone during this volume.
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That would have been a TERRIBLE time for a flashback given the Gear 5 change right after. Switching from Luffy being beaten to a long long pause and then coming back to surprise weeks or months later revival and new form would have been even jankier than it already was.
You don't stop for a long flashback at any point that will truly interrupt the tension and dramatic build, especially since you need to rebuild it after the pause.
Oda could it and get could do it pretty easily
Have CP0 interfere, Kaido gets his flashback, Kaido goes mad over another fight of his ending like that, goes down to fight the rest of the alliance, has them nearly killed and then Luffy awakens. Luffy actually getting up in such a short time just backs up what I’ve been saying in the other thread. It doesn’t feel like he’s actually close to death as the author wants us to believe
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I mean heck we all thought that the CP0 involvement was about Kaidos characterization but instead it was just a vehicle for the Elders to narrate the asspull god fruit of Luffy.
Ugh the more I think about it, there more I realize that Oda dropped the ball big time on some things just to have his golden boy shine like the sun.
Oda could have done so much better. Such a shame
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"To have his golden boy shine like the sun."
I think that is quite literally what Oda is trying to do. Neat. Thanks! You made me like Chuck Jones Luffy even more.
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Oda has been going out of his way in the past few chapters to defuse the bomb, so to speak, he did not only put out the fire, he also potentially created a way for the Samurai to evacuate the flying island (the lanterns). Not to mention how he called back to the citizen's dialogue about how great it would be to wake up tomorrow to a freed Wano (this time having the citizens talk about how tomorrow they will surely be slaves again). Kaido may yet be beaten right in front of the citizens, but I am beginning to have a suspicion that the island threat will essentially gone during this volume.
Sure. The lanterns give everyone a way to escape the island. It still doesn't deal with the island. Maybe the citizens manage to not know the danger among them and wake up free tomorrow, that does seem to be where its going especially after Big Mom was beaten in silence.
It's really, REALLY weird to build up that threat for a solid year and over fifty chapters and then just diffuse it to nothing. "They stopped the bombs! And the fire! And now everyone is safe! The end!" ? That makes no sense.
It HAS to fall so Momo can stop it from falling. The thing he is saying this very chapter he can't do, that he's been trying to do for twenty chapters since he got back to the scene. Pulling it a little away hasn't been enough. Kaidou's flames extinguishing and Momo not knowing to make them are the current threat. There's gotta be SOME save. Momo, Zunesha, new rubber powers, something.
Oda's definitely made some misteps this arc, I won't argue, the Nami and Usopp fights sucked and he really blew the tension on certain characters being out of it several times, (the multiple samurai resurrections, the Zoro miracle drug, Luffy's recoveries… even with post arc side effects those are all iffy unless those side effects are HARSH) but its really hard to believe he'd spend an entire year setting up "this flying island is going to crash!" and then just super gently blow it off. We know Oda makes a lot of things up as he goes but that's too much of a set piece for him to not have some idea how that will work out in advance.
Has he actually defused the entirety of the threat, or did he have mini threats going to keep things happening during the big fight for the last year, so that it wasn't just the obvious "the island is falling" threat the whole time? Why have Momo desperately trying to stop it for nearly twenty chapters if there's zero payoff on that? (Chapter 1027 was back in October!)
I figure knocking Kaidou through the entire island is a pretty solid finisher, same way Arlong, Croc, and Dofla were, but I though thtat back when we had bombs in the basement before Big Mom went out.
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"To have his golden boy shine like the sun."
I think that is quite literally what Oda is trying to do. Neat. Thanks! You made me like Chuck Jones Luffy even more.
Nah. The point of Nika being the sun god is so when the sun is out, luffy will be able to harness its power. That's how he will defeat Kaido.
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With the laterns and the island, Momo's issue is not being able to create enough clouds in time but if he can repurpose the laterns as clouds and have them hold Onigashima up then that solves all the issues. It also has an element of the people of Wano playing a major part in saving their own country by supporting their future shogun (even if unintenitonally). The laterns also lighting up Onigashima and turning it into one big parade float gets all the citizens attention on it and also fits with the festival theme.
I don't think the island will fall anymore if Luffy is threatening to punch through it, I think Momo just needs to find a way to move it and have more clouds under it than Kaidou, which he can do in this scenario.
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While continuing to read comments and reading the chapters, I feel like Oda will continue to disappoint a lot of persons this arc, I am not normally pessimistic but the arc really lack tension and emotional investment for me, my expectations have drop and in order to not get into a negative frame of mind I just try to go through the faze week after week.
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What are the chances the Kaido-focused flashback is just waiting for post-wano instead? I'm starting to imagine a scenario where Kaido is incarcerated in Udon and has a heart-to-heart with Yamato before they part ways.
Of course, I don't think Kaido would actually be imprisoned against his will. Moreso that he'll just be content to rest and recover in Wano prison until he decides it's time to leave Wano. And then he'll leave peacefully (mostly) when he gets the urge.
I'm definitely having trouble imagining Kaido just getting dragged away and out of the story unconscious.
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Robby, you're totally right about Hiyori. I keep forgetting that aspect every few months because of how underutilized she is. Yes, 100％ all the way.
Also, the lanterns acting similar to balloon terminal is also a completely feasible idea. It's absurd, but the point is the emotional impact and it's totally up Oda's alley. What I think is most interesting about it, is that it doesnt give the victory solely to Momo meaning he'd have to show his victory for the arc by other means.
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Sure. The lanterns give everyone a way to escape the island. It still doesn't deal with the island. Maybe the citizens manage to not know the danger among them and wake up free tomorrow, that does seem to be where its going especially after Big Mom was beaten in silence.
It's really, REALLY weird to build up that threat for a solid year and over fifty chapters and then just diffuse it to nothing. "They stopped the bombs! And the fire! And now everyone is safe! The end!" ? That makes no sense.
It HAS to fall so Momo can stop it from falling. The thing he is saying this very chapter he can't do, that he's been trying to do for twenty chapters since he got back to the scene. Pulling it a little away hasn't been enough. Kaidou's flames extinguishing and Momo not knowing to make them are the current threat. There's gotta be SOME save. Momo, Zunesha, new rubber powers, something.
Oda's definitely made some misteps this arc, I won't argue, the Nami and Usopp fights sucked and he really blew the tension on certain characters being out of it several times, (the multiple samurai resurrections, the Zoro miracle drug, Luffy's recoveries… even with post arc side effects those are all iffy unless those side effects are HARSH) but its really hard to believe he'd spend an entire year setting up "this flying island is going to crash!" and then just super gently blow it off. We know Oda makes a lot of things up as he goes but that's too much of a set piece for him to not have some idea how that will work out in advance.
Has he actually defused the entirety of the threat, or did he have mini threats going to keep things happening during the big fight for the last year, so that it wasn't just the obvious "the island is falling" threat the whole time? Why have Momo desperately trying to stop it for nearly twenty chapters if there's zero payoff on that? (Chapter 1027 was back in October!)
I figure knocking Kaidou through the entire island is a pretty solid finisher, same way Arlong, Croc, and Dofla were, but I though thtat back when we had bombs in the basement before Big Mom went out.
I still think Usopp being unable to hurt page one is on purpose by Oda to make him want to learn how to use haki to make his attacks stronger
I mean after all his attacks are completely useless time and time again he literally sees Big Mom take him down with a single hit by coating her arm with haki
I think it will make him see how much more powerful he could be if he learned how to use it
also he already started learning how to use it at Dressrosa but nothing came of it
and Izo is there, a White Beard Commander who happens to use fire arms with haki, who might have made a connection with Usopp
and if not he'll probably meet his dad soon
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I think, that because Momo can hear the "sound of all things", the lanterns will talk to him, when he tries to move the island. He will hear the cries of his country, that has been destroyed in the last 20 years, and he will able to power himself up. Let´s not forget that Momo to a certain point could be a Secret Weapon, he must shown why that could be.
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The moment when Kaido hit Luffy due to CP-0 intervention was perfect for a flashback, by the way. A moment of personal distress, and just after he had remembered his first encounter with Big Mom. Yet…
We had this flashback already, the Oden flashback covered that.
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This is why I don’t get the need of a Kaido flashback, the two points on his life we are missing are about yamato and about rocks.
Something longer than whitebeard “mission statement” page when he died when he said he only wanted a family is about right, as long as we cover the other two when it matters.
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We had this flashback already, the Oden flashback covered that.
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This is why I don’t get the need of a Kaido flashback, the two points on his life we are missing are about yamato and about rocks.
Something longer than whitebeard “mission statement” page when he died when he said he only wanted a family is about right, as long as we cover the other two when it matters.
That would have been a TERRIBLE time for a flashback given the Gear 5 change right after. Switching from Luffy being beaten to a long long pause and then coming back to surprise weeks or months later revival and new form would have been even jankier than it already was.
You don't stop for a long flashback at any point that will truly interrupt the tension and dramatic build, especially since you need to rebuild it after the pause.
I don't get why people think I mean a long flashback.
Were you really expecting a usual-sized flashback? For a villain?
I always expected something between more like Yamato's, or Big Mom's at most. Never more than that.
Doflamingo's story was told via snippets, partly during Law's flashback. Big Mom's was quite unique, but took only two chapters. We never had a full-length villain flashback. Maybe there will be one someday, but I doubt it will be now, during such a long arc that already has a full-length flashback.
I don't think Kaido would get more than some key moments in his life, like recruitment by Rocks, the fall of Rocks, meeting Orochi, scenes of his many defeats, something with Yamato… Small things that define many of his beliefs, like "Pirates will always betray each other" or "the victor needs no epithet".
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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I don't get why people think I mean a long flashback.
Were you really expecting a usual-sized flashback? For a villain?
I always expected something between more like Yamato's, or Big Mom's at most. Never more than that.
Doflamingo's story was told via snippets, partly during Law's flashback. Big Mom's was quite unique, but took only two chapters. We never had a full-length villain flashback. Maybe there will be one someday, but I doubt it will be now, during such a long arc that already has a full-length flashback.
I don't think Kaido would get more than some key moments in his life, like recruitment by Rocks, the fall of Rocks, meeting Orochi, scenes of his many defeats, something with Yamato… Small things that define many of his beliefs, like "Pirates will always betray each other" or "the victor needs no epithet".
Anything more than a quicky few panels to a couple pages mid-chapter woulda totally ruined the momentum of going from Luffy dying to Nika awakening. That transition happened in an intense moment, not the place for fleshing out Kaido when it's Luffy's time to shine.
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Anything more than a quicky few panels to a couple pages mid-chapter woulda totally ruined the momentum of going from Luffy dying to Nika awakening. That transition happened in an intense moment, not the place for fleshing out Kaido when it's Luffy's time to shine.
I don't think it would hurt if we had an extended sequence of Kaido getting the focus and going down to the main stage while having these flashbacks, and the big Luffy transformation happening one chapter later than it did.
You don't need to halt the present threat in order to show the past, just show both concurrently, with the flashbacks further fueling Kaido's rage while he has no one to stop him. Delaying Luffy's transformation a bit would actually raise the tension.
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How many lanterns does one need to hold up an actual island? Also, I find it weird some seem to think this is a way of the island. Does anybody have any experience with these lanterns? I have and you can't even hang a squirrel on there without it coming crashing down. I know this is not reality but come on …
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This is why I don’t get the need of a Kaido flashback, the two points on his life we are missing are about yamato and about rocks.
At some point he became obsessed with Joyboy, and with Wano specifically. And he wants an epic blowout death. Those are things that may need to be post-arc reveals but… a big chunk of his motivation is still missing. Which does likely tie strongly into Yamato.
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a big chunk of his motivation is still missing. Which does likely tie strongly into Yamato.
This. Many of Kaido's actions so far have revolved around going on a large-scale war and fighting worthy opponents. Plus the suicide hobby and comments he made to the scabbards. He is apparently looking for a memorable death, but we still don't know what set him on this path.
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How many lanterns does one need to hold up an actual island? Also, I find it weird some seem to think this is a way of the island. Does anybody have any experience with these lanterns? I have and you can't even hang a squirrel on there without it coming crashing down. I know this is not reality but come on …
Aaaah but you see, Wano lanterns are made with seastone and combustion releases the same kind of material that holds up Sky Islands clouds!
…it's a manga. If Oda wants it to happen, it will happen. I don't think it will (I think that the fire from the lanterns will enable Momo to create more flame clouds).
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The suicide hobby is pretty straightforward and the Oden fb made it moreso.
Kaido remarks that WB 'knew how to do it' and of course he means 'die like a (so-called) man'.
After his loss/win to Oden, Kaido has somewhat been emasculated. He knows he didn't earn it and that death would have been a great death tha would have put his name in legend for having been killed by a legend. He's searching for a way to die that will put him in history.
As for why he has no problem dying, it's very likely he's just bored. I recently platinum'd Elden Ring and when I did, I immediately deleted it because I was bored, exhausted, and had nothing left to prove. Kaido has platinum'd 'strength' and he wants to delete the world now. He's the strongest being and he lost the stronges 'man' who had the greatest chance of taking him out and leaving his name in legend.
The only question is…why does Kaido equate dying awesomely as a way of putting his name in history? It's a damn fine good chance that this is related to how/why Rocks went down(?) and the impression that and a possible betrayal of his hopes/trust established in him. Think about it. The world knows how Roger died, but so little is commonly/publicly known about Rocks. I think it's a safe bet that had an influence on him.
(Theory coming soon to your favorite YouTuber)
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There's a lot of baggage with Kaido, man. We know he's aware of Joyboy, so one naturally has to wonder if his desire to die is supposed to be his way of nearing that end or to be an antithesis to it. Kaido seems to not just want to die spectacularly, but die like a D! I think that maybe there's something to his seeming jealousy of Whitebeard (Without the Smile for Whitebeard) and Oden, who weren't D's but went out like them.
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Kaido has platinum'd 'strength' and he wants to delete the world now. He's the strongest being and he lost the stronges 'man' who had the greatest chance of taking him out and leaving his name in legend.
What about Shanks? Kaido puts him on a pedestal with Oden, Whitebeard, Roger and Xebec which shows how highly he thinks of his strength and I don't think he has defeated him. I really want to know more about their encounter two years ago.
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The suicide hobby is pretty straightforward and the Oden fb made it moreso.
Kaido remarks that WB 'knew how to do it' and of course he means 'die like a (so-called) man'.
After his loss/win to Oden, Kaido has somewhat been emasculated. He knows he didn't earn it and that death would have been a great death tha would have put his name in legend for having been killed by a legend. He's searching for a way to die that will put him in history.
As for why he has no problem dying, it's very likely he's just bored. I recently platinum'd Elden Ring and when I did, I immediately deleted it because I was bored, exhausted, and had nothing left to prove. Kaido has platinum'd 'strength' and he wants to delete the world now. He's the strongest being and he lost the stronges 'man' who had the greatest chance of taking him out and leaving his name in legend.
The only question is…why does Kaido equate dying awesomely as a way of putting his name in history? It's a damn fine good chance that this is related to how/why Rocks went down(?) and the impression that and a possible betrayal of his hopes/trust established in him. Think about it. The world knows how Roger died, but so little is commonly/publicly known about Rocks. I think it's a safe bet that had an influence on him.
(Theory coming soon to your favorite YouTuber)
Pretty sure I have seen that theory float around at least once in youtube.
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Speaking of Rocks, I really hope we get to see him at some point soon
Will he just be a flashback character, or is he still alive, if he is has his old age hurt his strength like White Beard and Garp? I hope he has a badass devil fruit
My friend think Im is Rocks, and seeing as how he wanted to be ruler of the world that kind of fits, maybe Im possessed his body since I don't see the five elder stars taking orders from a pirate, maybe that's what Im had all the posters for, trying to find a new host
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It still wouldn't surprise me if Rocks actually lives inside Teach like some sort of parasite.
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It still wouldn't surprise me if Rocks actually lives inside Teach like some sort of parasite.
Kidney D. Rocks.
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I'm looking forward to the Avengers Endgame scene Greg talked about, where all the allies the Straw Hats have had throughout the series come to help them in the final battle
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Hell, we even have a Dr Strange like character who could potentially gather people in one place.
I do think it will be battles across the entire world, however if Oda DID want to do it Endgame style with everyone in one location, a restored Kuma holds the key to getting everyone there. Plus it'd be kind of nice, the guy who once separated the Strawhats across the world reunites their allies together in one place to aid them.
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What about Shanks?
Shanks has never been called 'strongest man in the world'.
I wouldn't argue that he's a pushover on any day. But all signs point to his greatest strength being that of his united crew.
Pretty sure I have seen that theory float around at least once in youtube.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
however if Oda DID want to do it Endgame style with everyone in one location, a restored Kuma holds the key to getting everyone there.
Oda's been planting the ways for them to make that possible for years. Not the least of which: Noa, Skypiea/High West being in the sky, W7 itself being a ship, and island whales. I consider it less one 'location' than I do 'one region'. As I said probably a decade back now, 10 simultaneous Marinefords in close proximity.
