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      @black-leg:

      Each sea likely has its own prison with Impel Down being the prison reserved for only the most dangerous of criminals. Remember that Crocodile and Baroque Works were sent to a smaller prison in the Grand Line first, before being moved to a prison in the Calm Belt.

      Also, when Captain Morgan was arrested, Garp specifically came to pick him up and take him to a prison and/or Enies Lobby. It's possible that the WG has a prison that's specifically for marines or WG agents that betrayed the organisation. It's notable that we saw no ex-marines or WG officials imprisoned in Impel Down, other than Shiryu who was already an employee there so it was probably more convenient to keep him there.

      If memory serves correctly, I think that each Marine Base has a small prison/dungeon where it keeps prisoners and stuff. Also, smaller prisons besides Impel Down most surely exists, even ones for normal civilians with no DF powers and the like.

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      I could've sworn we saw Arlong leaving Impel Down when Jinbei became a warlord

      I think he was probably sent back to Impel Down as he was there before doing all the bad stuff after release.

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        I could've sworn we saw Arlong leaving Impel Down when Jinbei became a warlord

        I think we did but at that time Arlong was a New World/Grand Line pirate and so Impel Down was probably the closest prison. After East Blue he just became an East Blue pirate with a bounty of only 20,000,000. The marines probably thought he was small fry and so locked him up in the East Blue prison. Even though Buggy had a lower bounty and still went to Impel Down, he was also caught in the latter half of the Grand Line so it was probably the closest prison for him as well.

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          Would it be a paramecia or a zoan for you?

          I just cant see oda not filling up the logia zoan paramecia.

          But I struggle to find mythical zoans with plants? Maybe like an Ent?

          If it has to be a Mythical Zoan, similiar to Sengoku's or Luffy's, then the only "plant based" thing I can think of would be a Cernunnos-style deity, which may or may not also fit the Green Bull theme.
          Pretty sure everyone has seen some kind of interpretation of it somewhere, it's pretty common in games and fantasy stuff (half naked dude with Antlers or Horns with control other flora and fauna).

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            @Jabra:

            If it has to be a Mythical Zoan, similiar to Sengoku's or Luffy's, then the only "plant based" thing I can think of would be a Cernunnos-style deity, which may or may not also fit the Green Bull theme.
            Pretty sure everyone has seen some kind of interpretation of it somewhere, it's pretty common in games and fantasy stuff (half naked dude with Antlers or Horns with control other flora and fauna).

            Completly forgot about this! Well observed.

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              Does anyone find it weird that Zoro’s final opponent (most likely) has the clear clear fruit? How do you make a devil fruit we’ve seen Sanji beat pre time skip not to mention Queen basically had the same ability and Sanji also beat him handily

              I mean it seems so not threatening now that we’ve basically seen it defeated twice now, how will Oda make Shiryu’s usage of it differ

              I expected Oda to give Shiryu the diamond diamond fruit

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                Does anyone find it weird that Zoro’s final opponent (most likely) has the clear clear fruit? How do you make a devil fruit we’ve seen Sanji beat pre time skip not to mention Queen basically had the same ability and Sanji also beat him handily

                If the fruit can do more than make the user invisible, and make lots of things invisible, (it already made Absoloms guns invisible) well…

                Also, Zoro gets lost really easily.

                Oda choosing THAT ability to repurpose out of all abilities rather than a new similar variant probably means he has ideas. Better than it just being Jozu's diamond fruit like everyone expected since that would just boil down to a repeat of the Mr. 1 fight of "cut harder".

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                  Imagine if his outfit or weapon ate Cora's fruit.

                  No matter where you go, there you are.

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                    @Greg:

                    Imagine if his outfit or weapon ate Cora's fruit.

                    I was wondering if Blackbeard could "combine" fruits so something like that could happen. But the sword is a better idea.

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                      Does anyone find it weird that Zoro’s final opponent (most likely) has the clear clear fruit? How do you make a devil fruit we’ve seen Sanji beat pre time skip not to mention Queen basically had the same ability and Sanji also beat him handily

                      I mean it seems so not threatening now that we’ve basically seen it defeated twice now, how will Oda make Shiryu’s usage of it differ

                      I expected Oda to give Shiryu the diamond diamond fruit

                      I have now decided that Sanji and Zoro will switch their obvious opponents. Im just waiting to see what Burguess gets.

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                        We havent seen a Paramecia in an object tho.

                        And it appears Zoans being the only ones that can do that, could very well be associated with them having will of their own and that stuff.

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                          I have now decided that Sanji and Zoro will switch their obvious opponents. Im just waiting to see what Burguess gets.

                          Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if Jesus Burgess got the diamond diamond fruit

                          I mean his two attacks are the same we’ve seen from Jozu, a powerful shoulder tackle and a throw/pile drive

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                              Shiryu using the fruit for underhanded victories (for example, pulling a backstab on mihawk when he was on the verge of defeat) doesn't have the same impact as using the diamond fruit for me. Yea sure, both are scummy ways to steal wins from "stronger opponents" (assuming mihawk is stronger than him), but the diamond fruit sets a benchmark for zoro to truly surpass mihawk by proxy. If he can cut diamond shiryu, that by itself is an achievement that mihawk himself couldn't do in the fight and makes him worthy of achieving the title and avenging the former.

                              However if shiryu just happens to use the fruit to take cheap dirty shots at mihawk and win, zoro isn't really surpassing him in terms of strength or all the conventional stuff that a swordsman should have? If zoro wins its because he happened to be more capable of countering the invisible shots and not anything else? The victory doesn't have that much of a satisfying ring to it compared to the get harder fruit to me.
                              That said i'm more than willing to wait and see how it goes. Oda could do something interesting with it and/or show shiryu being close to, if not almost equal to mihawk. It's not as much of a hangup than the nika fruit for me.

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                                My preferred scenario is Zoro beats Mihawk, then goers to fight Shiryu, and no it's now longer about proving himself as the greatest swordsman, but prove the way of the swordsman actually matters against an incredibly dirty and pragmatic opponent, and never mind helping his captain become Pirate King, which by this point we know is as important to Zoro as his own dream.

                                The King fight highlighted that what Zoro means as swordsman isn't anyone who fights with a sword, but a specific type of fighter. It's possible for him to reach the top of that group but still be beatable by other people who have swords.

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                                  @Shiebs:

                                  Does anyone find it weird that Zoro’s final opponent (most likely) has the clear clear fruit? How do you make a devil fruit we’ve seen Sanji beat pre time skip not to mention Queen basically had the same ability and Sanji also beat him handily

                                  I mean it seems so not threatening now that we’ve basically seen it defeated twice now, how will Oda make Shiryu’s usage of it differ

                                  I expected Oda to give Shiryu the diamond diamond fruit

                                  Because Sanji > Zoro

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                                    I guess lots of characters will awaken their DF in the events following the Wano arc

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                                      Something I saw in another forum.

                                      If Kaido had actually managed to eat Luffy last chapter, would he end up absorbing Luffy's DF and then die because he has two fruits?

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                                        @Dragon:

                                        Something I saw in another forum.

                                        If Kaido had actually managed to eat Luffy last chapter, would he end up absorbing Luffy's DF and then die because he has two fruits?

                                        No, since IMO it's reeeeaaalllly unlikey that he would get Luffy's DF that way

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                                          No, since IMO it's reeeeaaalllly unlikey that he would get Luffy's DF that way

                                          I mean the current statistics for "do you get someone's DF if you eat them" is 100%.

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                                            @Greg,
                                            Do you think Luffy's fruit has properties of all three type - zoan,paramacia and logia? The way he is penetrating Kaido seems like logia ability..

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                                              Greg, how did you like this chapter? I'm so curious about your feelings.

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                                                @Dragon:

                                                I mean the current statistics for "do you get someone's DF if you eat them" is 100%.

                                                And that one instance means that every time someone is eaten the other person gets their fruit? Just to keep an open mind here and not jump conclusions here we actually don't know if that is the reason BM got Carmels fruit. It is possible for instance that after Carmel got eaten her DF respawned and BM ate it then.

                                                Also there might be difference when a non user eats someone else and a fruit user eats. And BM is a freak of nature so who knows if we can draw conclusions based on an outlier like that.

                                                But if you want a more meta answer, no Kaido wouldn't die simply cuz I don't see Oda doing something like that in that what-if scenario. And for all we know Kaido might've already eaten other DF users before

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                                                  <grumble, suicide="" hobby,="" we="" can’t="" rule="" it="" out="">Im on the “the soul fruit respawned in the same table and then was eaten, no direct canibalism causes the power to be transferred” but then again, Oda could have easily drawn the soul fruit a panel later.

                                                  Canibalism transfer opens too many weird edge cases that I don’t think a series aimed to teens should explore.</grumble,>

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                                                    Re: Mom

                                                    Given character motivations at the time, it really seems that what was implied happened, happened. HOWEVER, Oda still has wiggle room for an explanation that could fit. At the time I'm sure I had an idea all laid out, but the long and short of it is, I don't trust Streussen….AT ALL. IIRC the giant witness should have an idea of what transpired.

                                                    As usual, best to refrain from stating 'matter-of-facts' about the incident until we see the whole picture.

                                                    As for the chap, I don't have a lot of time to devote to discussion right now, but I wanted to see if people agree on the vagueness of the fruit.

                                                    Oda made a point to have Kaido point out that it has both properties. While that's something I initially postulated, when I initially read the latest chapter I found that 'vaguery' pretty much confirmed.

                                                    During my livestream, someone (who I believe posts here too?) mentioned the idea of a 'will' inhabiting the Gomu Gomu Fruit.

                                                    That has me interested, especially if DF's become more fluid with the concept of 'will'.

                                                    Unfortunately, it still stands the Oda could clearly make this a Zoan but the dialogue in this chapter suggests to me that Oda is addressing that concern and pushing the notion aside despite not giving a clear answer.

                                                    As for the 'will' at work here, just like with this chap, I strongly believe in time we'll come to find that Luffy, despite having a blast, is very much the reason for the season and in control of himself.

                                                    No matter where you go, there you are.

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                                                      @Greg:

                                                      During my livestream, someone (who I believe posts here too?) mentioned the idea of a 'will' inhabiting the Gomu Gomu Fruit.

                                                      Ah, that was me. Here's the original post which I shortened and reposted in the livestream chat:

                                                      @All:

                                                      So like, Nika's hair and eyebrows are from whatever race it is that he belonged to.
                                                      He ate the Gomu Gomu Fruit, a Paramecia.
                                                      His will is so strong that when he died, Gomu Gomu Fruit inherited it, hence it having a will, which is a Zoan trait.
                                                      Thanks to said trait, it allows the next user to access the form of Nika, which earned it a Zoan classification due to its ability to transform its user into another being (albeit limited, since it can only be done during awakening due to it not being a Zoan in the first place) in addition to its original Paramecia classification.
                                                      And so, the fruit was given another name "Hito Hito Fruit Mythical Model: Nika".

                                                      How likely would this be?

                                                      Although if Gomu Gomu is indeed the real name of the fruit, there is still the question of how would giving it another name (whether it's only used within the halls of Mary Geoise or beyond that, per RoboBlue's theory) help erasing the fruit's name/existence from the annals of history?

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                                                        What exactly does Zoro mean he’ll become the “King Of Hell”?

                                                        Is he gonna get some sort of hell related power up?

                                                        Maybe it has something to do with the grim reaper he’s seeing?

                                                        I know Greg thinks that’s just Caribou but did we see him near Zoro last time we saw him?

                                                        Also on the topic of Caribou, what exactly is his purpose after this arc? I mean Luffy offered him a ride and he stuck his neck out for him, and he had a redeeming cover story, and he never gave into Kaido’s torture or told him about Poseidon but I still don’t trust the guy as far as I can throw him

                                                        I assume his ability to store people and things inside himself without anyone knowing will come into play in the future but I don’t know how

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                                                          @Shiebs:

                                                          What exactly does Zoro mean he’ll become the “King Of Hell”?

                                                          The fight against King has a storyline of Zoro mastering Enma, which is named after the "King of Hell" in Buddhism.

                                                          In order to surpass his limits in the fight, Zoro learns that he must submit to the sword's greedy demand for his Haki which can even kill him.

                                                          Since Zoro needs to pay this taxing price in order to fulfill his promises, Zoro says that he might as well become the King of Hell himself in order to master Enma.

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                                                            The Buddhist concept of Naraku and Yama is quite different then the Christian Hell and Satan.

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                                                              The Buddhist concept of Naraku and Yama is quite different then the Christian Hell and Satan.

                                                              Yes.

                                                              Zoro didn't say he would become Satan. He said he would become the King of Hell, like Enma.

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                                                                And that one instance means that every time someone is eaten the other person gets their fruit? Just to keep an open mind here and not jump conclusions here we actually don't know if that is the reason BM got Carmels fruit. It is possible for instance that after Carmel got eaten her DF respawned and BM ate it then.

                                                                I don't know, that's why I used a question mark in my first post. You are the one who told me it's highly unlikely based on nothing, so I'd say it's not me who am jumping on conclusions.

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                                                                  Yes.

                                                                  Zoro didn't say he would become Satan. He said he would become the King of Hell, like Enma.

                                                                  Some would argue satan IS the king of Hell but I guess different mythologies might differentiate those 2. I'm wondering where this weird storyline with Zoro is going. As some have mentioned the most logical assumption would be that the guy with the scyth is the manifestation of the sword Enma. On the other hand, why would the manifestation of a sword be a guy with a scyth? Sound weird to me. Unless Enma is actually a sword with a sense of humour wanting to freak Zoro out.

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                                                                    I know Greg thinks that’s just Caribou but did we see him near Zoro last time we saw him?

                                                                    Oh, you haven't heard my latest takes?

                                                                    Anyway, the question was about what Zoro meant. Here's a little bit of a meandering path but this is the 'why' of what Zoro said.

                                                                    Zoro and Sanji are the qualities of a main character hero that Oda likes, enjoys, and appreciates, but doesn't want to thematically overwhelm his series. Zoro being raw savage power with a samurai-like cool-headedness. Sanji being a suave hero who knows how to read a room. Oda likes those qualities but he can't fully explore them in his hero because his hero sets the tone for the entire series.

                                                                    It's when people confuse Zoro's tone for the tone of the series that you get stuff like ZKK. Not knocking it. I'm not really anti-ANY theory these days. If you wanna believe it, I support that! But, it's not the tone of the series Oda is aiming for. If a reader is attached to characters like Katakuri, Zoro, King, or Shiryu, it's easy to feel like the series could/should be different, but while Oda likes those elements, they're not the core of what he wants to portray.

                                                                    By the way, notice anything curious about those names?

                                                                    Zoro….King....Katakuri....Shiryu.

                                                                    They're all right-hands. That's no coincidence. That is the specific role in which Oda wants to make those characters shine.

                                                                    Part of this is because of that tone's importance in a crew.

                                                                    The other part is, those characters will (almost) always be foils for Zoro, so it's clear that they should have personalities that overlap with his own.

                                                                    Remember the 'right-hand' spread from a while back? In the weeks leading up to that I started to get a strange feeling about Zoro's quest and that spread pulled it all together in something of a moment of enlightenment regarding all of this and Zoro's path to being the 'Judge of Hell' (aka Enma).

                                                                    If you look at who is arguably the most powerful character in the right-hand role, there's none other than Rayleigh. Now consider his oddly chosen epithet: 冥王 Many people (including myself) looked at that as face value for years and years as 'Dark Lord'. Partially because of translation choices and people didn't know better, and partially because people thought 'Pluto' sounded dumb.

                                                                    But...what IS Pluto? Pluto isn't just a dwarf planet (or whatever it is this week according to SCIENCE) it's the Latin name for freaking Hades.

                                                                    Hades being the epitome of Oda's classic (ie. not romantic like Lucifer) Western view on the leader of the underworld. But Zoro's Wano roots would obviously take him in the direction of a logical Japanese equivalent, Enma.

                                                                    Taking this further, we have BB's right-hand who, despite a thematically different epithet, is basically the cigar-chomping Merry Melodies-style Satan who literally came from the lowest depth of Hell on Earth (Impel Down).

                                                                    Interestingly enough, and I dunno if Oda will take it this far, Enma isn't the only judge of Buddhist hell. He's one of many. He's just the best well-known because he's the one that most humans get caught up on as they go through the process of judgement. So theoretically, Oda has an entire panel of judges he can go through.

                                                                    Wanna take this super tinfoil?

                                                                    Little-known fact that Enma and Jizou Bosatsu are actually THE SAME ENTITY. Enma is his form in Buddhist hell but on earth he's best known as the bodhisattva guardian of children and travelers (probably exactly what it says on the wiki). I'm hesitant to bring up that being a saint of children, Jizo is also commonly associated with children who die young, including abortions. I'm only mentioning it because I'd rather have you hear it here than when this is regurgitated on YouTube or elsewhere someday. There's basically no way Oda would explore that aspect in the series. He only gets a pass on the Mom eating kids thing because she's been painted as a villain. So no, it's not some sort of dark foreshadowing.

                                                                    Rather, I'd suggest that since Zoro and his attack names have all been delving deeper and deeper into hell, if Zoro does have a power awakening moment (perhaps involving that eye?) he might ascend from hell and display a Jizo-associated attack/form similar to Asura.

                                                                    Just food for thought.

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                                                                      How long do you guys feel the action will take?

                                                                      We are in Chapter 1,045, which is most likely the final one of Volume 103. (Thought some volumes have 11 chapters, so 1,046 may be the real ending).

                                                                      I doubt this fight will go past Volume 104, so it should be ending in 10-11 chapters max, thought personally I'm beyond tired of this arc and wish it goes for half of that.

                                                                      What are your thoughts? Could it end in 5 chapters? 10? Or go even beyond another volume?

                                                                      Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

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                                                                        I'd say 5 full chapters of fighting plus whatever interruptions we get, which I'd give another 5 chapters to at least. Then another 10 for victory party.

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                                                                          @Greg:

                                                                          Wanna take this super tinfoil?

                                                                          Little-known fact that Enma and Jizou Bosatsu are actually THE SAME ENTITY. Enma is his form in Buddhist hell but on earth he's best known as the bodhisattva guardian of children and travelers (probably exactly what it says on the wiki). I'm hesitant to bring up that being a saint of children, Jizo is also commonly associated with children who die young, including abortions. I'm only mentioning it because I'd rather have you hear it here than when this is regurgitated on YouTube or elsewhere someday. There's basically no way Oda would explore that aspect in the series. He only gets a pass on the Mom eating kids thing because she's been painted as a villain. So no, it's not some sort of dark foreshadowing.

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                                                                          Well well well. Your tinfoiling fits shockingly well to Zoro's backstory, nice.

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                                                                            I don't know, that's why I used a question mark in my first post. You are the one who told me it's highly unlikely based on nothing, so I'd say it's not me who am jumping on conclusions.

                                                                            Ah I guess we both misread each others posts. 🙂
                                                                            You asked the question in such a way that my reading was that Kaido would get the second fruit and questioning if he would die from that. I don't know if others read it the same way or I just made a stupid non-native speaker mistake there but that's how I read your post.

                                                                            As for me, I said IMO meaning In My Opinion, keyword being opinion so no jumping to conclusions there 😛
                                                                            (I specifically and intentionally wrote it that way btw)

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                                                                              So the infamous crockembouche party was even complicated to Oda to get through. Just like how the elusive samurai is very dodgy with showing the emperor himself, and wano going up to shogun only there are a few Japan taboos, but what happened to those children I doubt it would fly in many countries anyways.

                                                                              Do you still feel like with what we know about pudding, there is another shoe to drop about big mom and her memories? With her coherent rampaging form and cool big sister form that Kaido knew, and how pudding has been taken further away from a Villanous role, I’m having a hard time combining these two thread from before, the Lola and loki incident, the fact that only Lola believes big mom to be kind, I think if anyone, at this point is more likely that Lola is the one with fake memories.

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                                                                                Luffy's awakening is diferent from other shown paramecia because it can transform to rubber not only enviroments but also people, and he needs to phisically Touch whatever he transforms. So i think its related to its mythical zoan specifically.
                                                                                I also find it interesthing Is use of Haki even though he shouldn't be able to since the 10 min haven't passed befrore the awakening. Is it joyboys will present in the devil fruit? Also the black indicator for when someone is using COA coathing is not present. Overall a really weird awakening, Oda still needs to give more explanations

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                                                                                  Re: Mom

                                                                                  Given character motivations at the time, it really seems that what was implied happened, happened. HOWEVER, Oda still has wiggle room for an explanation that could fit. At the time I'm sure I had an idea all laid out, but the long and short of it is, I don't trust Streussen….AT ALL. IIRC the giant witness should have an idea of what transpired.

                                                                                  As usual, best to refrain from stating 'matter-of-facts' about the incident until we see the whole picture.

                                                                                  Btw, do you think Perospero is Streussen's son?

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                                                                                    Luffy's awakening is diferent from other shown paramecia because it can transform to rubber not only enviroments but also people, and he needs to phisically Touch whatever he transforms.

                                                                                    Doflamingo and Katakuri also need to touch whatever they transform. What seems to set Luffy's enviroment transforming power apart from theirs is that he needs to physically manipulate whatever he transforms into rubber to make use of it as a weapon or shield.

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                                                                                      Do you still feel like with what we know about pudding, there is another shoe to drop about big mom and her memories?

                                                                                      Very much yes.

                                                                                      Btw, do you think Perospero is Streussen's son?

                                                                                      I hope not. I don't want Streussen to have any affiliation to the family proper. I'd prefer that he remain a shady and selfish manipulator. But that's me. We'll see what Oda has planned.

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                                                                                        @Morgoth:

                                                                                        Luffy's awakening is diferent from other shown paramecia because it can transform to rubber not only enviroments but also people, and he needs to phisically Touch whatever he transforms. So i think its related to its mythical zoan specifically.

                                                                                        Kid's awakening works the same way.

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                                                                                          What is the Japanese fans reaction to our luffs df change?

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                                                                                            What is the Japanese fans reaction to our luffs df change?

                                                                                            I'm honestly not sure what the pulse is. I've taken a break from SNS and OP isn't super popular with elementary school students anymore so I don't interact with a lot of people over here who are fans right now. Superfans I've talked to have all enjoyed it though! They also have concerns about the fruit origin and if Luffy is in charge, but luckily, Oda anticipated those concerns.

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                                                                                              Greg, upon reread, it’s clear that Luffy pumping his legs to activate Gear Second did something to his heart; you can hear the ドクン sfx in ch. 387.

                                                                                              Is Luffy pumping his heart here? Does his ability naturally repump his heart upon death?

                                                                                              If so… then maybe Luffy can’t die if his heart stops.

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                                                                                                @King:

                                                                                                Doflamingo and Katakuri also need to touch whatever they transform. What seems to set Luffy's enviroment transforming power apart from theirs is that he needs to physically manipulate whatever he transforms into rubber to make use of it as a weapon or shield.

                                                                                                Luffy didn't transform all of the skull dome top into rubber, only where he touched. But yeah that doens't mean he can't.

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                                                                                                Kid's awakening works the same way.

                                                                                                Oh yeah, you'r right.

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                                                                                                  People are talking about Shanks stopping Gorosei from catching Luffy theory, but…..

                                                                                                  Greg, have you ever talked about why Shanks went to Whitebeard and asked him to stop Ace and leave BB alone for the time being? Given everything that happened recently, I wonder what else shanks really knows!

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                                                                                                    Hi Greg, I have a question. Someone in the comments of a theory video I released recently about Kaidoo asked me this question and I'm not entirely sure the answer.

                                                                                                    In chapter 999, Stephen translated Big Mom's line to read: "I gave you that legendary model of the Fish-Fish Fruit!"

                                                                                                    However, in other instances (like 1020, 1044, etc.), Stephen has used the word mythical rather than legendary. In chapter 1020 for example, Kaido says "The Dog-Dog Fruit Mythical Type Okuchi no Makami"

                                                                                                    My question, is there an actual difference in distinction / classification between Legendary and Mythical?

                                                                                                    I asked a friend of mine with the Japanese volumes to send me a picture of those two panels and they look like the same word in Japanese (幻獣種 Zōn-kei Genjūshu). But, I don't know the language, so I'm just not sure.

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                                                                                                      @ArseneWenger:

                                                                                                      People are talking about Shanks stopping Gorosei from catching Luffy theory, but…..

                                                                                                      Greg, have you ever talked about why Shanks went to Whitebeard and asked him to stop Ace and leave BB alone for the time being? Given everything that happened recently, I wonder what else shanks really knows!

                                                                                                      While sure, there could be a deeper secret reason for that, I don't think we need more than we already have. Shanks knew Blackbeard as a legitimate threat (that gave him his scar) that had been lying low and keeping his true strength hidden from WHitebeard…. and that he would probably mess Ace up or kill him if they actually met.

                                                                                                      Which is what happened. And Shanks obviously didn't know about the darkness fruit at the time so he was worried that BB on raw strength (and haki?) alone would be able to wreck Ace.

                                                                                                      ...of course, that reveal of BB's power is one of the bigger proofs that Oda didn't have haki fully figured out. Yeah, they do technically different things, but a huge deal was made out of it bypassing a logia.... which is something anyone worth anything in the new world can do. Difference between "bypassing" and "turning off" to be sure, but that's practically semantics.

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                                                                                                        Difference between "bypassing" and "turning off" to be sure, but that's practically semantics.

                                                                                                        I strongly disagree.

                                                                                                        By turning off a devil fruit, not only you shut down the enemy's ability to attack you back with their devil fruit powers, you also can damage the enemy physically in a way you can't with Haki.

                                                                                                        Just look at Luffy vs Kaido. Even though Kaido uses Haki, Luffy's body still mold to the kanabo and that minimizes a lot of critical physical damage from the hit even though it hurts. If Luffy were fighting under the influence of "Kurouzu", his body would suffer a lot more serious damage.

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