Tama is a worse possibility than Carrot, that’s saying something.
Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !
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Tama was never a option. Every arc we get bunch of characters and one or another catches some people's fancy.If anything, it says how illogical some people are.
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I actually am pretty shocked how so many fans latched on to children as next crewmate or possibly last crewmate as candidates.
I kinda chalked it up to them thinking Oda would do something expected and different despite patterns and predictable trends he sticks to.
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@Zik:
I actually am pretty shocked how so many fans latched on to children as next crewmate or possibly last crewmate as candidates.
I kinda chalked it up to them thinking Oda would do something expected and different despite patterns and predictable trends he sticks to.
After Oda had Chopper, Franky, Brook and Jinbei as crew members I was expecting the last member to be something truly insane and out of the ordinary, frankly none of the current candidates really live up to that level of hype for me, but I guess that's on me, if you build up your expectations to high nothing will ever reach them
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After Oda had Chopper, Franky, Brook and Jinbei as crew members I was expecting the last member to be something truly insane and out of the ordinary, frankly none of the current candidates really live up to that level of hype for me, but I guess that's on me, if you build up your expectations to high nothing will ever reach them
Given giants, dwarves, and apparently minks are off the table its hard to get crazier than a living skeleton with an afro. I felt a fishmen or mermaid was always gonna be there.
Only other thing I had in mind was an 800 year old that had an OP OP user perform the eternal youth operation on them.
Then ya basically got ya old person in a young person's body and a walking vault of secrets and mysteries.
Throw in a crazy devil fruit power and/or make then from a rare race of ppl and you got a strawhat.
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@Zik:
Given giants, dwarves, and apparently minks are off the table its hard to get crazier than a living skeleton with an afro. I felt a fishmen or mermaid was always gonna be there.
Only other thing I had in mind was an 800 year old that had an OP OP user perform the eternal youth operation on them.
Then ya basically got ya old person in a young person's body and a walking vault of secrets and mysteries.
Throw in a crazy devil fruit power and/or make then from a rare race of ppl and you got a strawhat.
That would be pretty cool
Until we met Yamato I was thinking that the last Straw Hat member would be a member of one of the two races big mom said she didn’t have on whole cake island, especially since Luffy likes unique things
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That would be pretty cool
Until we met Yamato I was thinking that the last Straw Hat member would be a member of one of the two races big mom said she didn’t have on whole cake island, especially since Luffy likes unique things
Yeah for a while there I thought the crew from the grandline on would be super unique/rare types given we have an animal that ate the human human fruit, the last survivor of Ohara, a living skeleton, and at the time the only cyborg of note in the story.
Luffy had a nice growing parallel to what Big Mom already had.
Jimbe should've been a rare fishmen/merfolk breed that could also transform to have the mer-tail as well.
Yamato's still a bit of a mystery given her and Kaido's background though.
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Apologies if this has been asked before but is Oda aware of the status the G8 filler arc has among fans, Greg? For the longest time I thought of it as a de facto canon arc and it somewhat saddens me that it will likely never be included in the canon or be put on paper so I can put it next to the databooks and manga volumes. Same for the extended role of Ace in the Alabasta parts of the anime, really.
do you think there is a chance that some fillers and their status might be adressed in the future and find their way into potential spinoffs, etc. once the main series ends?
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. - _Sun Tzu, The Art Of War
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do you think there is a chance that some fillers and their status might be adressed in the future and find their way into potential spinoffs, etc. once the main series ends?
Even the movies Oda personally worked on aren't cannon and don't quite fit.
It's part of the extended anime world, and its fine as such. After the manga ends there's going to end up being a LOT of contradictory "doesn't quite fit" things. Like the Chopper movie that had Franky, Robin, and the SUnny in it BEFORE meeting Chopper and gave Wapol a brother.
Oda DID change CHopper's design to match what one of the anime designers wanted to do, and Franky largely exists as-is due to Oda liking the VA, so his being influenced by the anime is certainly a thing. But going out of his way to cannonize stuff? Not so much.
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Always found the filler to be lacking. They basically should've been like the movies. Big stories, big villains, big action, etc. If not that at least try to be as compelling as the Baratie arc.
I don't know if Oda or editors or any other creators just say no a lot to ideas but wish there was some more risks taken with filler.
But I feel that way about most anime. The studios usually mail it in. Rare exceptions is like the first run of Full Metal Alchemist where after running out of material they just did their own thing and until the original had its intended ending it was great. The flip side being how terrible all of that filler for Naruto was inbetween the time skip where they clearly was just biding time, stalling on finding Sasuke, stalling on actually training, and then failing to even develop the neglected side characters, etc.
But I digress, this isn't a what's disappointing about anime filler thread.
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Sadly, Oda didn't put Condoriano in the giant colorspread of marines so I doubt he'll havae the G8 marines show up again.
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Mt. Rushmore
4 Apis arc
3 Rainbow Mist arc
2 G8 arc
1 Dream arcNeed an animal with a DF to be an arc antagonist in the actual manga. The closest animal antagonist boss so far is Hattori and Sengoku's goat that Oda hasn't named yet. If Zunesha can be a threat, Oda can definitely cough up a beast with a DF.
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Filler and movie characters are an annoying waste of lore. They could’ve been easily made canon by just changing the protagonist of their story and writing some novel about it. I’m sure everyone here would love to see some adventure from the point of view of the kid pirates instead of the straw hats, or seeing a different version of The Z movie with X drake as a protagonist, or Gold with Capone as a protagonist and so on..
(Maybe someday I could write myself some fanfic about it, but I’m surely no professional writer)
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Sadly, Oda didn't put Condoriano in the giant colorspread of marines so I doubt he'll havae the G8 marines show up again.
He should be from an agency besides the Marines since i doubt they audit themselves. /wishful thinking.
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Filler and movie characters are an annoying waste of lore. They could’ve been easily made canon by just changing the protagonist of their story and writing some novel about it. I’m sure everyone here would love to see some adventure from the point of view of the kid pirates instead of the straw hats, or seeing a different version of The Z movie with X drake as a protagonist, or Gold with Capone as a protagonist and so on..
(Maybe someday I could write myself some fanfic about it, but I’m surely no professional writer)
I'm still wishing Toei makes a whole movie based on Chapter 956/Episode 957, showing the Marines vs the Warlords, and the results of those events.
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Filler and movie characters are an annoying waste of lore. They could’ve been easily made canon by just changing the protagonist of their story and writing some novel about it. I’m sure everyone here would love to see some adventure from the point of view of the kid pirates instead of the straw hats, or seeing a different version of The Z movie with X drake as a protagonist, or Gold with Capone as a protagonist and so on..
(Maybe someday I could write myself some fanfic about it, but I’m surely no professional writer)
Maybe that could be interesting for hardcore fans like most of us, but I'm not sure general audiences would flock to theaters to see Drake or Capone's filler adventures. I think a non Strawhats-based movie would have to be very plot relevant to succeed.
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I’m sure everyone here would love to see some adventure from the point of view of the kid pirates instead of the straw hats, or seeing a different version of The Z movie with X drake as a protagonist, or Gold with Capone as a protagonist and so on..
I would watch no such thing. That sounds awful. Supernovas are fine as secondary characters but with their current level of development and personalities, none of them are interesting enough to carry that kind of weight.
Unles youre talking like the youthful adventures of Garp and Roger or something, where it'd come with a ton of lore dump to carry the responsibility, that just would not work.
Only the absolute most hardcore of fans would go with that. I've been reading the series for 20 years, have all the volumes, and a 300$ Jinbe statue and I wouldn't see one of those movies.
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As a full fledged movie? Yeah, probably not.
As tv specials, i.e. 45 mins - 1 hour movies, like Bardocks story or Trunks story in DBZ, which were expanded from single chapters? Would be great, imo.Even One Piece used to have those specials, long filler episodes with a bit more.of care and budget than usual. But I dont think anime series do these type of specials anymore, at least not that often.
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Maybe that could be interesting for hardcore fans like most of us, but I'm not sure general audiences would flock to theaters to see Drake or Capone's filler adventures. I think a non Strawhats-based movie would have to be very plot relevant to succeed.
Make it star Ace or prime Garp and it would succeed. Definitely if it was Roger.
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Make it star Ace or prime Garp and it would succeed. Definitely if it was Roger.
For some reason I think prime Garp would get a higher amount of viewers than Roger would.
Remember, remember, the 5th of November
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For some reason I think prime Garp would get a higher amount of viewers than Roger would.
For Garp I think it would depend on the pirate that is the villain. I think the added hype.is most would assume we would also learn more about the marines at the time. Lole what kind of fleet admiral was Kong, who werr the other two admirals with Sengoku, maybe seeing more of Tsuru and Saul, etc. The added bonuses.
With Roger I don't think its that far behind cuz there's still.a few mysteries to him, his crew, and their journey. Whether he was fighting a pirate or marine or both wouldn't matter as much.
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@Zik:
For Garp I think it would depend on the pirate that is the villain. I think the added hype.is most would assume we would also learn more about the marines at the time. Lole what kind of fleet admiral was Kong, who werr the other two admirals with Sengoku, maybe seeing more of Tsuru and Saul, etc. The added bonuses.
With Roger I don't think its that far behind cuz there's still.a few mysteries to him, his crew, and their journey. Whether he was fighting a pirate or marine or both wouldn't matter as much.
Yeah, the angle would be the thing. Both Roger and Garp were involved in great events in their youth. Still, I feel there's so much more to explore from the angle of the marines in those days than there is to learn about Roger and his crew. If I could watch a story about Garp joining the marines or Roger becoming a pirate i'd personally choose Garp's story anyday.
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The Japanese audiences would eat up a feature length Poochie movie. Maybe with side of pick-up artist doctor to maximize their selling power
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Poochie is the fire dude, right?
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I would watch no such thing. That sounds awful. Supernovas are fine as secondary characters but with their current level of development and personalities, none of them are interesting enough to carry that kind of weight.
Unles youre talking like the youthful adventures of Garp and Roger or something, where it'd come with a ton of lore dump to carry the responsibility, that just would not work.
Only the absolute most hardcore of fans would go with that. I've been reading the series for 20 years, have all the volumes, and a 300$ Jinbe statue and I wouldn't see one of those movies.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a movie about the Roger Pirates battle with the Rox Pirates, I think that would be cool
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As a full fledged movie? Yeah, probably not.
As tv specials, i.e. 45 mins - 1 hour movies, like Bardocks story or Trunks story in DBZ, which were expanded from single chapters? Would be great, imo.Even One Piece used to have those specials, long filler episodes with a bit more.of care and budget than usual. But I dont think anime series do these type of specials anymore, at least not that often.
I think the last one I heard about was the Episode of Nami recap, and that was sometime ago.Episode of Naki was followed by 3D2Y, Episode of Sabo, Episode of Merry, Episode of Skipiea, and Episode of East Blue
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Greg did this chapter give you any more hints as to what Kings race might be?
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The Rise and Fall of Rocks Universe after OP ends. Solo anime films and series of Xebec, BM, WB and Kaido. 2 team up films before the final film (God Valley Incident).
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The Japanese audiences would eat up a feature length Poochie movie. Maybe with side of pick-up artist doctor to maximize their selling power
It'd amaze me if we'll not get an ova adaptation of the Novel sooner or later, maybe extended with Tama, Yamato and other parts.
Still, we didn't get cover stories adaptation, so
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Greg did this chapter give you any more hints as to what Kings race might be?
There are some things I know that don't let me answer that exactly how I want to but I'm also in the dark about a few key aspects so in a controlled (ie. editor-approved space) I can talk about it freely. My next article touches on the topic a bit but nothing too deep or beyond tease-like. I would say that being interested in King's race is probably going to pay off in the long run. ie. Not just some goofy race Oda threw together as he often does.
And such patience might be rewarded sooner rather than later.
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OOOH!!! Now I'm excited!
wait, didn't Sabo get captured or at least defeated at Mary Geoise? Which is on the red line? which is where Kings race exists?
Sorry just letting my thoughts flow, can't wait to see what he is, super excited
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Heh, I just wrote on the Marineford 2.0 thread:
We've been getting a few plot threads lately that keep pointing the story towards Mary Geoise.
- CP-0 has been a constant presence since Dressrosa
- Im's identity
- The events of the Reverie and the fate of Vivi and Sabo
- The possible capture of Hancock, leading to her secret being found out and her return to slavery
- Bonnie and Kuma
- "Sun God Nika", a myth among slaves
- An extinct race of fire people that once lived in the Red Line
I've been saying a Mary Geoise arc would happen after Wano, things seem to point in that direction!
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Maybe logia devil fruits originated from different ancient races? Like King's race had the so called 'bloodline' limit of the fire fire fruit? Zoans can be easily accomodated for as power developed from animal species. Paramecias are different ball game though. But we don't know the original mechanism either.
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In my own headcannon, back in the days when One Piece was still a novelty and not much of the lore was alluded to by Oda, I always imagined the DFs as being created by the Ancient Kingdom ex novo, and not using already pre-existing creatures and/or races as a starting point. They needed weapons so they turned everything into a weapon. Is that a fire? Sure, let's put the "essence" of fire into a fruit so whomever eats it can control that element. That a table? Sure, let's make a fruit through which any person can become a table. Perhaps the bloodlines came afterwards, as part of the inherited will. Perhaps some logia users mingled together and their children started showing a limited, yet impressive, natural recreation of the parents' DF abilities.
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Since a particular DF power at any time can be held by a single person only, it should take thousands of years to get a race out such 'affinity'. AK was active only 1000 years ago.Even if those 'ancient' races were not the source of this power, I doubt it was 'created' by AK.
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There are some things I know that don't let me answer that exactly how I want to but I'm also in the dark about a few key aspects so in a controlled (ie. editor-approved space) I can talk about it freely. My next article touches on the topic a bit but nothing too deep or beyond tease-like. I would say that being interested in King's race is probably going to pay off in the long run. ie. Not just some goofy race Oda threw together as he often does.
And such patience might be rewarded sooner rather than later.
Hype season is intact!
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Regarding Hancock, I don't know about a Mary Geoise arc right now, but I think that her future is going to be something like: gets reintroduced somehow -> learns about the SH Fleet -> becomes the Fleet Admiral (bickering with Bartolomeo in a competition to prove who is the biggest Luffy-stan) -> Luffy emerges as a Yonkou from Wano -> makes Amazon Lilly his turf -> the great Fleet moviment that is supposed to affect the whole world promised in Dresrossa -> final war
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I will give it a last try. Let us assume fire his really Sanji's DNA powers people speculate… What is your take on it Greg
Oda did a poor job with explaining the powers of Vinsmokes.
Judge had an electric kick... But he isn't listed as modified human.
On the other hand the siblings aren't explained well what Powers are DNA based and what Powers come from the suit. At least they are matching or enhancing their abilities.
On the other hand Sanji with fire plus invisibility makes no sense
But I hope we will learn.more
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I will give it a last try. Let us assume fire his really Sanji's DNA powers people speculate… What is your take on it Greg
Oda did a poor job with explaining the powers of Vinsmokes.
Judge had an electric kick... But he isn't listed as modified human.
On the other hand the siblings aren't explained well what Powers are DNA based and what Powers come from the suit. At least they are matching or enhancing their abilities.
On the other hand Sanji with fire plus invisibility makes no sense
But I hope we will learn.more
Don't talk spoilers here
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I will give it a last try. Let us assume fire his really Sanji's DNA powers people speculate… What is your take on it Greg
Oda did a poor job with explaining the powers of Vinsmokes.
Judge had an electric kick... But he isn't listed as modified human.
On the other hand the siblings aren't explained well what Powers are DNA based and what Powers come from the suit. At least they are matching or enhancing their abilities.
On the other hand Sanji with fire plus invisibility makes no sense
But I hope we will learn.more
Invisibility would be from the suit. The fire foot can be speculated as somehow Judge's experimenting somehow still working even though it was said it was not and he was born a regular human.
I thought it was pretty clear where Sanji's siblings' powers came from as far as Judge's experimenting with lineage factors and their exoskeletons.
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I will give it a last try.
I'm pretty sure I answered your question waaaaaay back in the thread somewhere. If I didn't, I'm sorry. But I do remember saying at least once before, "I already answered your question." which is why I'm pretty sure I answered. Again, if I didn't, my mistake, I've made….a lot of posts. If you have the time to search through them, more power to you.
In the meantime, allow me to read you a fortune cookie I just got:
"Patience is a virtue."
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Oh no doubt Luffy using it would be a one-off. Sorry if I implied otherwise. No way Luffy would 'suit-up' every time to go to battle.
As for the powers, people say Ichiji is fire but as far as we know he's only sparking not flaming which Sanji already has a lock on so I imagine it would compliment his fire and spinning. Flaming Drill Yellow?
Sora being involved would naturally cinch that deal. After all, we've only seen her sick, we know she must've been a badass in the lab.
I searched sanji fire greg kishido. I'm assuming this is Greg's answer.
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