Toriko III: It's Over!!

Nekketsu

You gotta appreciate how Neo is unambiguously being portrayed as a living being with a wariness of what's good and bad. This thing is pure evil incarnate, enough to give monsters like Frieza or Doflamingo a run for their money. It's just disturbing the way it keeps stalking its prey, instills in it a fear that will never go away and enjoys the hell outta it before finally devour the poor helpless beast.

@Thatanas:

1 chapter is not 'going back to the usual pace', not after all that we have seen the last couple of months/chapters.

Yeah, this is what I mean. Previous chapter we skipped out like 3 areas, yet this whole chapter is entirely focused on Neo and is just getting started.

Purple Hermit

Neo in a nutshell

Zyzzz

@Baldulf:

So Neo is this little shit demon who mixes apetite with being a bit of a sociopath? And how come he got the strenght to lay waste to whole planets and jump from one to other?

We get that the little dude is a creepy one but whats the reason for him being so strong?

I don't think the livestock was allowed to eat more than they were allowed, or else the Blue Nitro would kill them. Also being so small and fragile, it is possible that the other demons did not allow him to start eating the good stuff to begin with.

Piitan

@SpaceCowboy:

That is a complicated question, but first let me give you an explanation on how this forum in which we are currently communicating came to be.

A long long time ago, two cavemem called Grum and Grohl found the most magnificent force of nature: Fire.
Grum thought of all the possibilities and how it could be used for good, but Grohl had EVIL plans…

I think I love you.

Louis-1988

It wasn't a terrible chapter, butI just can't get invested in this flashback. The shittiness of the previous chapter has left a powerful aftertaste.

Cyclone_Baroness

The billions of years thing is so ridiculous.

Neo is plenty creepy.

Nekketsu

@Louis-1988:

It wasn't a terrible chapter, butI just can't get invested in this flashback. The shittiness of the previous chapter has left a powerful aftertaste.

Punishment for changong your cool sneezing shark avatar for that lame-looking one.

jprdiru

@SpaceCowboy:

That is a complicated question, but first let me give you an explanation on how this forum in which we are currently communicating came to be.

A long long time ago, two cavemem called Grum and Grohl found the most magnificent force of nature: Fire.
Grum thought of all the possibilities and how it could be used for good, but Grohl had EVIL plans…

You mean [EVIL], right?

Outerspec

I couldn't have been the only one who thought of Frieza's spaceship this chapter…

Louis-1988

@Nekketsu:

Punishment for changong your cool sneezing shark avatar for that lame-looking one.

Guy in my avi is the baddest dude on the planet. No regrets!

@Outerspec:

I couldn't have been the only one who thought of Frieza's spaceship this chapter…

Just reread the chapter. It's almost an exact replica!

Zyzzz

@Outerspec:

I couldn't have been the only one who thought of Frieza's spaceship this chapter…

It actually looks like the one Joa built!

Purple Hermit

@Outerspec:

I couldn't have been the only one who thought of Frieza's spaceship this chapter…

Same but I forgot to post about it given that Jiji's omniscient exposition about some event nobody observed was going on.

@Zyzzz:

It actually looks like the one Joa built!

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/toriko/images/c/c2/NEO_ARK.png/revision/latest?cb=20131121025155

I also thought this as well, then decided that Joa built a replica of Freeza's spaceship.

melody of dead.deanders

mitsufreakingtoshi what are you doing..? please tell us that you're being pressured by the editors..?
after last weeks fail of a chapter, you give us an amazing one.. dafuq..?

but seriously i love it.. the thirst for blood and appetite, especially that face at the end..

Louis-1988

Joie's words at the end of the previous chapter had nothing to do with the exposition Jiji gave us this week. I think (I hope) we're going to get at least another 3 chapters of flashback about NEO's history as told from Toriko, ATOM and Joie's perspectives.

Jameswuds

I cannot be the only one who is not cool with this type of ridicolously, expositional chapter? It felt like reading a wikipedia article.

Myu

@Jameswuds:

I cannot be the only one who is not cool with this type of ridicolously, expositional chapter? It felt like reading a wikipedia article.

Well, it was obvious from last week. I would prefer 4HK discovering this history with their respective powers. Hell, even now Shima is providing us with a method! Wolf King is able to gather it's opponents everything through sniffing. And Guiness just transferred that information to Toriko. Plus considering Coco is Coco, it would be totally possible. And it would be a better explanation. Considering Jiji has no way of knowing what Neo did in that planet after his ancestors left him there. It would be more personal then, some guy we barely know and hate at that, giving a lecture.

Concept of these livestocks being APEX PREDATORS doesn't sit tight. If they really are apex predators and ultimate bringers of death how do you keep them controlled? Not just one and a group of them… Chapter says they were demons to begin with but where did they come from? And why are they so strong?

I don't understand why NEO is being shown as the pure evil. Isn't the Blue Nitro that came up with the way of administering stress through 'facing with death?' And those demons are just tools for it? Neo is doing what it's supposed to do. Scare the shit out of living things so it would become tastier... Am i supposed to feel bad for anyone other than 4HK which are trying to live in harmony with creatures? Blue or Red Nitro (jiji)? Blue Nitro were going to eat the planet or it's inhabitants anyway?

It seems like what makes NEO pure evil is it isn't an idiot that makes the planet tastier for Blue Nitro but wants to eat it itself. Considering it's an existence where every creature looking for tasty ingredients what makes NEO different is he is powerful enough to travel planets and consume the life out of them.

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@Louis-1988:

Joie's words at the end of the previous chapter had nothing to do with the exposition Jiji gave us this week. I think (I hope) we're going to get at least another 3 chapters of flashback about NEO's history as told from Toriko, ATOM and Joie's perspectives.

Yes. But the origins of NEO and why he is so powerful is still a mystery. Maybe that explanation would help.

Area51

You all are talking about Blue Nitro. But in this chapter I only saw Red Nitro (look at their mouths and at the way they open).

desa

So why is Neo suddenly so good at the job(he is taking this beam like nothing), and most importantly how does he switch planet?

I was expecting somthing more from seing other planets but let's see what part 2 will give us.

maxterdexter

About this chapters complaints:

We know that neo was sealed once and implanted in acacia. That's one way for jiji to learn the story.
We know that he launches the tumors and that's how Guinness found out, they could have captured older tumors and studied them.
We could be getting the result of an informed studio as one pieces flashbacks that are told to the crew from a person's point of view but the story is what happened exactly and beyond their knowledge, and he just went from "the neo creature was missing in this area of space" to "the neo creature we observed instilled terror in its prey" if you see how the creature eats and you compare to the results of the other planets its not crazy to put 2 and 2 together. It was either showing Neo directly or the investigation of the brave slaver nitro that did the research.

Zp1

Calling it now. Komatsu is going to come up with some cooking method for NEO that somehow makes him explode and restore life to every planet he had previously wiped out. The "true" method of defeating NEO as opposed to sealing him in a can forever.

Underworld1991

@Zp1:

Calling it now. Komatsu is going to come up with some cooking method for NEO that somehow makes him explode and restore life to every planet he had previously wiped out. The "true" method of defeating NEO as opposed to sealing him in a can forever.

Don't you mean Frozhe? She's the one who telling him what to do.

superluccix

I remember seeing the Mother Snakes gaze at the Neo tidbit, and thinking that was the purest form of nightmare fuel in the manga.

And then I saw the final page of this chapter. God damn

Area51

There' more than one quetion I would like to find an answer to: first, the demons known as "Livestock" are the same kind as the "normal" demons lurking inside Toriko and the others bodies? If this is the case, why Toriko's Red Oni is so collaborative with Toriko himself? And Don Slime is a Livestock as well? Where the hell do the demons come from? Shouldn't they be invisible if you don't eat PAIR? I'm a bit confused.

Thatanas

@Area51:

There' more than one quetion I would like to find an answer to: first, the demons known as "Livestock" are the same kind as the "normal" demons lurking inside Toriko and the others bodies? If this is the case, why Toriko's Red Oni is so collaborative with Toriko himself? And Don Slime is a Livestock as well? Where the hell do the demons come from? Shouldn't they be invisible if you don't eat PAIR? I'm a bit confused.

I doubt they are Gourmet Demons. Just, you know, demons. Physical horrifying creatures. Don't think there is anything else to it.

maxterdexter

@Area51:

There' more than one quetion I would like to find an answer to: first, the demons known as "Livestock" are the same kind as the "normal" demons lurking inside Toriko and the others bodies? If this is the case, why Toriko's Red Oni is so collaborative with Toriko himself? And Don Slime is a Livestock as well? Where the hell do the demons come from? Shouldn't they be invisible if you don't eat PAIR? I'm a bit confused.

The flashback is just starting. Give it time. Unless he skips it.

Area51

@Thatanas:

I doubt they are Gourmet Demons. Just, you know, demons. Physical horrifying creatures. Don't think there is anything else to it.

Well, NEO is quoted as Gourmet Demons, am I wrong?
@maxterdexter:

The flashback is just starting. Give it time. Unless he skips it.

Yes, you're right.

Louis-1988

@Thatanas:

I doubt they are Gourmet Demons. Just, you know, demons. Physical horrifying creatures. Don't think there is anything else to it.

NEO is an appetite demon. So it stands to reason that the others are as well.

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desa

@Area51:

There' more than one quetion I would like to find an answer to: first, the demons known as "Livestock" are the same kind as the "normal" demons lurking inside Toriko and the others bodies? If this is the case, why Toriko's Red Oni is so collaborative with Toriko himself? And Don Slime is a Livestock as well? Where the hell do the demons come from? Shouldn't they be invisible if you don't eat PAIR? I'm a bit confused.

They livestocks are the demons. They die and become spirits stuck in the back channel. They find new host and can once again eat.

It's the same process as the one for the chefs in area 6. Or kind of the same anyway.

I sure prefer when demons weren't real beings but manifestation of intimidation. I hope the kings don't end up having them.

BoomerKoala

I finally had the time to speed read the chapters of the Blue Grill arc till the present and gotta say, even if shima did skip a bunch of cooking stuff and relied a lot on godmatsu hack, ANOTHER is a cool ingredient/arc. I felt sad for the food spirits when they went to Komatsu hungry for something with flavor. And hack as it is, it's great to see the spirits finally having to taste the deliciousness of their last meal. Kinda weird to sympathize with monster spirits but look, aw they're smiling.
I fall for cheap crap like this all the time.
But still, ANOTHER is great because eventhough there's no actual tastet, the concept of eating it makes people/monsters remember what they've forgotten is something i could roll with.

Last week's chapter is still bull-fu#@ing-shit though. No excuse for that.

SherlockHolmes

How good this chapter was and how terrible the previous was, plus the faces Komatsu kept making on that one, makes me think the author was not only forced to rush things, but specifically rush to the final arc of the Gourmet World. Like how Kubo wasn't forced to rush after the fullbringer arc but instead was forced to rush to the story final arc.

Purple Hermit

As a reminder to that analogy, we're currently four years into the Quincy arc

Area51

@desa:

They livestocks are the demons. They die and become spirits stuck in the back channel. They find new host and can once again eat.

It's the same process as the one for the chefs in area 6. Or kind of the same anyway.

So you're saying NEO (I take him/it as an example) was a real being, made of Gourmet Cells, he/it died and then embodied Acacia's body? And so did Slime with Ichiryuu?

Baldulf

@desa:

They livestocks are the demons. They die and become spirits stuck in the back channel. They find new host and can once again eat.

It's the same process as the one for the chefs in area 6. Or kind of the same anyway.

I sure prefer when demons weren't real beings but manifestation of intimidation. I hope the kings don't end up having them.

Was that explained in the story. I have been skipping some of the late chapters so I couldnt really tell.

Having bio engineered monsters created by an alien race turned into spirits that haunt humans through nano machine…errr, gourmet cells, is quite crazy even for Shima's crazy standards.

BoomerKoala

@Area51:

So you're saying NEO (I take him/it as an example) was a real being, made of Gourmet Cells, he/it died and then embodied Acacia's body? And so did Slime with Ichiryuu?

When you put it that way….. how did these Livestock had a physical manifestation in other planets but need to go through with all these hassle of posessing human bodies so they could eat on Earth?

Shima better start explaining bcause this is getting interestingly complicated as hell.

maxterdexter

That's easy, they all died, and now they are gourmet ghost.

KageKageKing

@maxterdexter:

That's easy, they all died, and now they are gourmet ghost.

Who're ya gonna call?

BoomerKoala

If there's only One Back Channel for the whole galaxy, then that Squid King is some powerful being.

KageKageKing

Speaking of which, when are we gonna see Squid Sani Girl again?

BoomerKoala

Squid princess and Sunny will gross each other out. Thats probably my OTP now, even if they'll never meet.

desa

@Area51:

So you're saying NEO (I take him/it as an example) was a real being, made of Gourmet Cells, he/it died and then embodied Acacia's body? And so did Slime with Ichiryuu?

16 chars of Exactly.

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@Baldulf:

Was that explained in the story. I have been skipping some of the late chapters so I couldnt really tell.

Having bio engineered monsters created by an alien race turned into spirits that haunt humans through nano machine…errr, gourmet cells, is quite crazy even for Shima's crazy standards.

http://www.mangastream.to/toriko-chapter-335-page-13.html

Every dead with appetite on him can become a food spririt. That's why Frozhe is Komatsu's demon for example. Or that Don slime was searching for Ichiryuu's soul.

Daz

On its own merits, this was an effective chapter. Shima is good at monster design and creepy imagery, so this was right up his alley.

@Baldulf:

Was that explained in the story. I have been skipping some of the late chapters so I couldnt really tell.

Having bio engineered monsters created by an alien race turned into spirits that haunt humans through nano machine…errr, gourmet cells, is quite crazy even for Shima's crazy standards.

Its hard to wrap your head around. Physical creatures can turn into internal spirits dwelling inside people from another planet, and sometimes the spirits partially sprout as physical manifestations from the users body, sometimes they're more like summoned creatures, like when Midora used meteor spice…and sometimes, these Spirit-demons are capable of interacting with the material world directly, even without a host-see Don Slime. But then theres [food spirits] haunting Blue Grill which don't seem tangible, making dem different from [Gourmet Demons] I guess, even though they're also monsters? Maybe they have too little [Appetite energy] or maybe it has something to do with using the [back channels] differently, or [gourmet cells] being haunted by…other creatures made from gourmet cells...or something.

Also, what was the goal of NEO-the organization, not the monster- again? I know everyone was brainwashed by Frohzes Gourmet Demon Zombie thing and are thus at least indirectly working for the Gourmet Nobles on the whole "Revive then Kill Neo" plan...but do they know that? What did Shigematsu, Uumen, Kuromado, Mogami and all the others think they were accomplishing, exactly?

maxterdexter

The gourmet nobles, they got them through some offer about space. Or something.

We don't know if joa is on acacia's side, the nitro side or the neo side.

Most characters are in the "let's stop the monster that wants to eat earth"
The nitro are in the "let's can the monster that wants to eat earth"

Also, for whom were the people cultivating planets? For themselves, or there is a Galactus going around? They were cooking planets before neo.

SpaceCowboy

@jprdiru:

You mean [EVIL], right?

Supernova

[https://blueeyesdragonics.wordpress.com/2016/02/07/toriko-357-if-you-cant-make-friends-blame-it-on-the-creepiness/

R](https://blueeyesdragonics.wordpress.com/2016/02/07/toriko-357-if-you-cant-make-friends-blame-it-on-the-creepiness/)eally hoping we expand more with space, but with how the GW I'm not sure if it will get the time and length it deserves. However Gourmet Space rocks in all honesty.

Louis-1988

Spoilers: http://onepiece-naruto.com/blog-entry-1061.html

! It appears NEO can kill gourmet cell demons permanantly and that the flashback ends about halfway through the chapter. Sigh, I really wanted at least another two chapters of its backstory.

Louis-1988

Chapter out: http://readms.com/r/toriko/358/3227/1

Might be the second worst chapter of Toriko to date. I mean, we didn't even get to see how NEO came to reside within Acacia and the flashback is over?? And that's not even the worst part! Looks like Komatsu plans to add NEO to his harem within the next 4-5 chapters.

Underworld1991

So Don slime already whoop Neo in the past. Jiro is a freaky motherfucker.

Louis-1988

I guess this is supposed to be a young Jiji? :wassat:

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Average

Am I the only one that thinks that blue nitro with the life ball thingies in his hair is hot? No but really, I do wonder what's going to happen now. Does this flashback mean that the nitro were manipulating Joa or was it the other way around? And what are Setsuno and Chichi doing?

I liked that this chapter brought back some characters aspects we haven't seen in a while, though. Like Sunny's "GROOOOSSSS" outburst and Toriko wanting to eat everyone/thing.

Outerspec

This is just a lot to take in. Billions of years of history. Death and resurrection. Countless planets with millions of years of growth being wiped out by a single creature. A technologically advanced race that has achieved space travel across the galaxies. Other races/aliens/creatures that are stronger than NEO and I guess there other planets out there just floating around that NEO tried to invade but was beaten back out of. A race of Red Nitros picked up and transferred to another planet (earth) to serve many millennia of slavery just to awaken NEO.