All i want is a great arc, an interesting one, long or short, i don't have any problem with the length of this one as far as we have information, and we can get many out of Zou so i'm thinking this one will be long too.
In the end only Oda knows, but i'm loving it already.
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Elephant - 1000 years old - Chopper can talk with animal - there's a lot possibility! Void century story? Joy boy?
i dont think we will be that lucky…
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Fishman Island was hella hyped for years and it was hardly a long arc in comparison to the others. An arc doesn´t need to be super long to cover everything we expect it to, you know Oda rarely leaves things unresolved, they are always addressed on coverstories, or even years later in another arc.
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Well, Bepo could obviously be the reason why Law decided to meet at Zou…since it's supposedly an hostile island, maybe they got access because Bepo is one of them. But at the same time, I wonder if they are such an isolated tribe why there are so many "of them" around the world?
I feel like Bepo isn't a minkman. But literally a bear that can talk. Otherwise it would kinda weird to specifically mention female bears.
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I feel like Bepo isn't a minkman. But literally a bear that can talk. Otherwise it would kinda weird to specifically mention female bears.
Unless minkmen are literally animals that can talk. Who knows ?
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Pretty sure minkmen are just humanoid looking minks and that girl is one of them. Her appearance is already very different from other talking animals who have normal animal heads. The head from that girl looks more like a human-animal hybrid.
But since this is Oda and we already had Okama island, I wouldn't really be surprised if Zou was a furry island, and he didn't call them fur-men just so it's not obvious from the start. Either way, minkmen would be a weird choice for a name, since there are like 3 kinds of minks. In comparison, there are over 33.000 different fish.
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Pretty sure minkmen are just humanoid looking minks and that girl is one of them. Her appearance is already very different from other talking animals who have normal animal heads. The head from that girl looks more like a human-animal hybrid.
But since this is Oda and we already had Okama island, I wouldn't really be surprised if Zou was a furry island, and he didn't call them fur-men just so it's not obvious from the start. Either way, minkmen would be a weird choice for a name, since there are like 3 kinds of minks. In comparison, there are over 33.000 different fish.
This is true, Oda made sure to put a lot of emphasis on these Mink in Zou. How specific are they? Are there othere minks outside of Zou? These are viable questions.
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This is true, Oda made sure to put a lot of emphasis on these Mink in Zou. How specific are they? Are there othere minks outside of Zou? These are viable questions.
Considering that they are valued as slaves, yes.
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That's just off the top of my head.
In contrast, Zou was only mentioned just before Punk Hazard, and while it has some interesting connotations, has been built up nowhere near as much as Wano.
Dressrosa was first mentioned in Punk Hazard as well and it took a 100 chapters.
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Considering that they are valued as slaves, yes.
Obviously, I meant if there are Minks living on different islands, not just Zou. Oda made it a point that the tribe on Zou are special.
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Pretty sure minkmen are just humanoid looking minks and that girl is one of them. Her appearance is already very different from other talking animals who have normal animal heads. The head from that girl looks more like a human-animal hybrid.
You really think Oda would base an entire race over a particularly obscure animal?
And have you taken a look at Bepo and Pekoms' bodies? Those aren't full animal bodies there (and I won't even start with Hawkins' cat). The girl's head looks as much as half-animal, half-human as them, but with tertiary characteristics to tell us she's a girl (her head still has a snout and animal ears. The only difference is having human-like hair).
And hey, let's not forget how most Mermen looked in relation to most Mermaids. I wouldn't be surprised if Oda's male minkmen were essentially bipedal animals while minkwomen looked like cute human women with fur.
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There is really nothing obscure about "mink" like animals.
And booth Bepo and Pekoms are animals in humanoid form and capable of speech.
Law(Oda) is making a point by telling us that they have no contact to humans, but here we are having two of those in the ouside world already?
Hey they could be, but they just as well could not be from the mink tribe. We will find out pretty soon.
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I still think Bepo may have come from Zou so i expect the Minkmen to just be animal people. I mean Law knows about Zou: what it is; that it moved around; that Humans had not been there in 1000 years. Even Law has not actually been there but he knows all this, so he must have spoken to someone who has and Bepo makes the most sense to me. It would also explain how Law's crew got there. The log pose do not point towards the island so it must be hard to find. The main cast only found it because they have Bepo's vivre card so how did bepo find it? Maybe he has the vivre card of someone on the island like a friend or family member or maybe there is some other trick to finding this giant elephant.
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That makes sense but Kanjurou also knew about Zou but yeah having Bepo in crew and his crew being hidden there when the Minks are isolated from the world should have some connection.
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Well Kaido's men and the recluse samurai also know their way to go to Zou.
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There is really nothing obscure about "mink" like animals.
And booth Bepo and Pekoms are animals in humanoid form and capable of speech.
Law(Oda) is making a point by telling us that they have no contact to humans, but here we are having two of those in the ouside world already?
Hey they could be, but they just as well could not be from the mink tribe. We will find out pretty soon.
Well they are just another species like anything else. Of all the characters we've seen in the story we may have only seen 3 of them tops. That is pretty rare in a story of this magnitude. Just because their tribe is generally considered to have no contact with humans doesn't mean much when we know they have been kidnapped and sold into slavery before. Bepo or Pekoms could have easily been in a Jean Beart or Hancock situation until they were freed from outside sources.
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minkmen are literally anthropomorphic minks.
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Just wondering if Zou will be themed around Africa due to Elephants being indigenous to it and the fact that many non-human species seem to be from there in the OP world
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Just wondering if Zou will be themed around Africa due to Elephants being indigenous to it and the fact that many non-human species seem to be from there in the OP world
The ears and the forehead looks that of an Indian Elephant though.
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The ears and the forehead looks that of an Indian Elephant though.
The twin dome definitely points against an African one but the tusks are pretty large which are specific to African elephants. The ears don't seem to be much visible to judge yet though. It's too much in the shadows to estimate the size
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I think it was mentioned that fishmen can breed with humans, so I wonder if Mink can?
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@Medical:
I think it was mentioned that fishmen can breed with humans, so I wonder if Mink can?
Provide us with a source please.
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@Medical:
I think it was mentioned that fishmen can breed with humans, so I wonder if Mink can?
This reminds me of a certain game franchise by Nintendo.
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Provide us with a source please.
16 chars of Dellinger.
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16 chars of Dellinger.
Two questions:
- what is this 16 chars? I see it often.
- Regarding Dellinger, what was it said and where was that said?
Thank you for your help.
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Two questions:
- what is this 16 chars? I see it often.
It's just a way to fill a short post, since anything below 16 characters will prompt you to enter more text.
- Regarding Dellinger, what was it said and where was that said
Viola mentioned it here.
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@Galaxy:
It's just a way to fill a short post, since anything below 16 characters will prompt you to enter more text.
Viola mentioned it here.
I see. Thank you very much for your help.
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Chimney is also 1/4 fishmen if i remember correctly. That's why she's good at swimming.
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Chimney is also 1/4 fishmen if i remember correctly. That's why she's good at swimming.
Thank you for sharing this important information with us. I have just confirmed the authenticity of this in the SBS of the 45th One-Piece volume. I have always had this idea that Chimney was adopted. It's good to rectify one's old ideas.
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There was also this guy way back from Loguetown.
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There was also this guy way back from Loguetown.
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http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/6/6e/Sapi_Anime_Infobox.png/revision/latest?cb=20130916185835[/hide]This is amazing. Thanks, Kage. This was a big help.
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This is amazing. Thanks, Kage. This was a big help.
It is…Not that amazing actually. I'm more curious to know what the heck do you think Derringer was until now.
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@Medical:
I think it was mentioned that fishmen can breed with humans, so I wonder if Mink can?
A part of me wants to say yes. Imagine if those ape like guys from Crickets crew and Captain Gorilla were part mink. But when Bepo asks if there are female bears around I begin to think twice. Who knows but if they are able to breed with humans it wouldn't surprise me.
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It is…Not that amazing actually. I'm more curious to know what the heck do you think Derringer was until now.
It is completely understandable that it won't be amazing to you because you have embraced the notion that the guy from Loguetown was a half-merman for quite some time. For me it was very fresh. I truly felt amazement at that, and I enjoyed it very much.
Regarding Dellinger, I thought he was a complete fishman. Sometimes I read the chapter hastily on the phone while I am travelling somewhere , and I skip some stuff, hahaha
The chapter when Dellinger was said to be half-merman(768), I think I focused more on situation involving the fighters than on the epithet that Viola used to describe each and every one of them. That was probably the cause of this carelessness.
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A part of me wants to say yes. Imagine if those ape like guys from Crickets crew and Captain Gorilla were part mink. But when Bepo asks if there are female bears around I begin to think twice. Who knows but if they are able to breed with humans it wouldn't surprise me.
It could be Bepo is just interested in bears. Like some fishmen could just be interested in others of their species.
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There's also the half giant half fishman from Foxy's crew. And Kaido is most likely half oars-race half human.
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There's also the half giant half fishman from Foxy's crew. And Kaido is most likely half oars-race half human.
how can a human and oz-race can have babies ?
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How can a human have oars horns?
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how can a human and oz-race can have babies ?
Maybe he´s the offspring of a particularly large human + particularly small oz-race?
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Really want Kaido to be either half human or non human.
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With a more complete look of Zou, it does looks like an Indian Elephant to me.
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I still think Bepo may have come from Zou so i expect the Minkmen to just be animal people. I mean Law knows about Zou: what it is; that it moved around; that Humans had not been there in 1000 years. Even Law has not actually been there but he knows all this, so he must have spoken to someone who has and Bepo makes the most sense to me. It would also explain how Law's crew got there. The log pose do not point towards the island so it must be hard to find. The main cast only found it because they have Bepo's vivre card so how did bepo find it? Maybe he has the vivre card of someone on the island like a friend or family member or maybe there is some other trick to finding this giant elephant.
This reminds me; wasn't it Belo who drew the map of Zou Law had?
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This reminds me; wasn't it Belo who drew the map of Zou Law had?
Yes. His paw marks were all over the map.
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Yes. His paw marks were all over the map.
Does that ring a bell? Who knows enough of an evasive island to have a hand drawn map of it. Jackpot. It's looking like bebo is a minkman.
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Does that ring a bell? Who know enough of an evasive island to have a hand drawn map of it. Jackpot. It's looking like bebo is a minkman.
No, I actually misread your "Zou" as Dressrosa for some reason.
There is no map of Zou. The only map we saw drawn by Bepo was of Dressrosa/Green Bit.
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@Galaxy:
No, I actually misread your "Zou" as Dressrosa.
There is no map of Zou. The only map we saw drawn by Bepo was of Dressrosa/Green Bit.
Oh ok.my bad
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There's also the half giant half fishman from Foxy's crew. And Kaido is most likely half oars-race half human.
Oars's line may be a race now(of like 2 now lol) but I think it's heavily implied that Oars was the way he was because government experiments had been conducted on him long before he became the wild and free Continent Puller. Doesn't change that Kaido could have come from people like Oars who are the result of experiments and just passed down those altered genes.
how can a human and oz-race can have babies ?
This came up allot a chapter ago as well I think. Otohime and Neptune, a giant and a Fishmen, White Beard and Bukkin(?), etc. Even if the male is physically too large to pass the gates, as long as his men just touch the gates there is a possibility of the female to become pregnant.
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Interesting chapter, we get more insight on how the plot may play out later.
Looking forward to this arc. I think it's going to be like Thriller Bark and Fishmen Island, not a saga built up of multiple arcs. The elephant being 1000 years old hints there may be some deep history to be uncovered in this arc. No doubt Luffy will somehow strike a conversation with the elephant. I think the mystery of the whereabouts of the remaining Straw Hats & Momonosuke & what's his name adds a new element to One Piece we never had before. On Thriller Bark the crew were separated but as readers we knew what was going on with each group. Right now we're still not sure what's going on with Sanji, Nami & co. I expect Jack and Weeble to join this arc. For a second I thought Uranus may be linked to the arc when it showed the island was among the clouds, but I'm banking on that ancient weapon to be in outer space near Enel. Maybe there's a poneglyph on Zou, and maybe the elephant has a name and once had a relationship with an important figure from the past (Joy Boy?). Oda is the master at mixing up plotlines… I just hope we get more interesting villains (Fishmen Pirates were lame and Donflamingo's crew were a disappointment for someone like Donflamingo).
I wonder if Blackbeard will attack Dragon now. That'll make it a brother and a father of Luffy if he somehow manages to take Dragon. Can't see how though unless Blackbeard has gotten a huge powerup.
Great to see Buggy linked with the underground. Luffy's done him a favour, now Buggy's gonna eat up the market and stumble his way across One Piece.
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Luffy making contact with the Elephant gives me Ecco the Dolphine vibes. The moment when Ecco begins to speak with the Asterite, the oldest creature on the planet.
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I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed Oars and Oars Jr are simply huge giants, much like how there's huge humans.
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Oars's line may be a race now(of like 2 now lol) but I think it's heavily implied that Oars was the way he was because government experiments had been conducted on him long before he became the wild and free Continent Puller. Doesn't change that Kaido could have come from people like Oars who are the result of experiments and just passed down those altered genes.
This came up allot a chapter ago as well I think. Otohime and Neptune, a giant and a Fishmen, White Beard and Bukkin(?), etc. Even if the male is physically too large to pass the gates, as long as his men just touch the gates there is a possibility of the female to become pregnant.
you can say that about half giant and human but oz is tooooooooooooo big