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      Hrm. After Spice and Wolf, and Rokka No Yusha, I'm a little hesitant to jump onto another anime based on a light novel series that may well just get a tiny portion of the way and then stop completely well before the actual end of the story.

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        Hrm. After Spice and Wolf, and Rokka No Yusha, I'm a little hesitant to jump onto another anime based on a light novel series that may well just get a tiny portion of the way and then stop completely well before the actual end of the story.

        Same here. Re:Zero sounds like something I'd enjoy, but I won't pick it up until a final season is confirmed.

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        Place your bets. Is [AlphaMale/AlphaBro, an obvious ban evader] going to get banned again today, tomorrow, or in a week?

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        okay let's bet . Would love to see your losing face next week !

        An actual bet and conversation on the Chapter 905 thread, literally an hour before he got banned again.

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          @Dom64:

          Nowadays most people want a protagonist who's strong and confident. They don't want someone who starts off weak and wimpy, regardless of how much he works to overcome his weaknesses.

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          What Dom said. I have no idea why people have a problem with a guy that tries to improve himself despite not being freakishly talented in some area.

          I don't mind a weak protagonist. But he's weak to the point that it really makes zero sense to have him actually in the games. It's like that episode of King of the Hill where Bobby joined the track team. And the coach omly used him as a means to motivate. KotH was more mean spirited abiut why he was allowed to play, but it still felt similar to me.

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            Same here. Re:Zero sounds like something I'd enjoy, but I won't pick it up until a final season is confirmed.

            I don't think even the web novel is finishing any time soon. Getting a second season confirmed is the most you can expect.

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              I don't mind a weak protagonist. But he's weak to the point that it really makes zero sense to have him actually in the games. It's like that episode of King of the Hill where Bobby joined the track team. And the coach omly used him as a means to motivate. KotH was more mean spirited abiut why he was allowed to play, but it still felt similar to me.

              It's a sports series, he'll definitely improve as time goes by. You're implying that there's no point doing something you like if you're no good at it, which is pretty narrow minded if you ask me.

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                @ngh123:

                It's a sports series, he'll definitely improve as time goes by. You're implying that there's no point doing something you like if you're no good at it, which is pretty narrow minded if you ask me.

                It's not narrow minded. It just doesn't make much sense. Of course he can improve they train every day. But he was given a spot over better players. I know it's a sports shonen. But just because he has heart is kinda stretching it lol.

                On a side note of the training. It was really odd to me that we got those first couple of episodes where he could barely run upright. Then at the camp he's setting a break neck pace up stairs. But isn't panting like a dehydrated dog. Then he goes back to running like a dweeb in the next.

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                  @Dom64:

                  Nowadays most people want a protagonist who's strong and confident. They don't want someone who starts off weak and wimpy, regardless of how much he works to overcome his weaknesses.

                  @ngh123:

                  What Dom said. I have no idea why people have a problem with a guy that tries to improve himself despite not being freakishly talented in some area.

                  I love weak and wimpy characters who work hard to overcome their weakness like Onoda from Yowamushi Pedal, Sena from Eyeshield 21 and though not really wimpy Eichiro from Baby steps. I just think that Tsukushi unlike the aforementioned characters is a terrible execution of the archetype. All these characters usually start the sport late compared to their peers so there's a gulf in experience, in order to make up for that the ut in a lot of hard work, maintain a positive attitude and focusing on a skill that will let you make up for the difference in experience. For tsukushi that skill is that he runs…a lot(though still like he's Bambi on ice). This is apparently enough to put him on the first team of a so called elite football squad. It really just makes everyone else on the team look bad if this guy who was really unfit and bad at football is already more useful than them after like one month worth of effort. Are they also not running laps? Are they just not working hard enough? Seems that way. It's not even like his constant running is applied to the game in a way that makes sense that the coach would think hes useful. It's not like he's shown to be really good at running whilst constantly changing direction so that it's hard for his markers to keep up with him and he tires them out, or that he has particularly fast acceleration. Nope he just runs a lot. Everyone else is lazy but he'll always run after the ball. Even if it's just to stop the ball going out for a throw in in their own half this striker will sprint after it save it and then everyone else on his team will stop, applaud him and actually start trying from there on out. Usually when the inexperienced first year makes the team it's only the coach and the reader who know his true capabilities and believe in him but here I am 100% right with the other teammates in not knowing how the fuck this kid made the team, maybe the coach is just drunk. It just feels lazy and like the author hasn't done that much research.

                  It's not just the MC though, I don't think they've done a great job of making the sport interesting to watch. The character art looks nice enough but when they're moving I don't get a dynamic feel that even uglier shows like Giant Killing or Knight in the area were able to accomplish. Also when they zoom out to show ugly CG models playing football badly it just feels a bit soulless and it's grating to see badly positioned players
                  [hide][/hide]^ Like here, why is the defender just standing on the penalty spot right in front of the goalkeeper whilst Seiseki is attacking? Did nobody in production think to just move this guy forward a little bit or did they just think it was okay and no one would notice. It's things like that and the quick slapdash introduction of a senpai character who obviously wasn't going to make the team just to make Tsukushi seem more empathetic. From what I've heard the anime is skipping out a few chapters so that might explain rushed everything feels but it still irks me to no end.

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                    @Black:

                    I love weak and wimpy characters who work hard to overcome their weakness like Onoda from Yowamushi Pedal, Sena from Eyeshield 21 and though not really wimpy Eichiro from Baby steps.

                    Maybe I can enjoy the show more since I'm not that knowledgeable about soccer, but I think complaining about realism when you watched Yowamushi Pedal is pretty dumb. I don't think its anywhere near as good as Baby Steps, but its fun and most of the complaints here sound like nitpicking more than anything else.

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                      @ngh123:

                      Maybe I can enjoy the show more since I'm not that knowledgeable about soccer, but I think complaining about realism when you watched Yowamushi Pedal is pretty dumb. I don't think its anywhere near as good as Baby Steps, but its fun and most of the complaints here sound like nitpicking more than anything else.

                      Baby Steps even has a bit of unrealistic element added to it to give the main character something that gives his place in the sport world some meaning. His exceptional vision and ability to learn rapidly. Onoda in Yowamushi had his cadence and never give upness. Sena super speed. Hinata amazing vertical jumping and reflexes. Kokoro his nothingness, Sawamura his unusal pitchimg style.

                      All of these guys had at least something that could be called a talent or a skill to make them truly useful to their teams. This guy in Days…He's essentially the worst player. But he's been added cause the coach can't figure out how to motivate the other players.

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                        But he's been added cause the coach can't figure out how to motivate the other players.

                        The way I see it is, and I disagree with Black Leg here, the coach nominated him and puts him in the match because he saw he IS the best option to motivate the team. They are strong but the problem lies in their head, maybe not only in the first match but beyond that. Happens alot in real life football. And the MC is the perfect combination of mascot, motivator and some other psychological factors the coach has in mind.

                        As I said before, he can do the basic stuff now and of course he can run now. He trained that alot, and it's not like he has to carry much weight. And somehow it doesn't even bothers me that everyone is astonished that the freshest guy on the field is able to sprint to a ball where it makes totally sense to get it. Those scenes always catch applause, especially when the worst player on the field delivers them.

                        I do agree on the scenes where we see the field from above and the placements of players make no sense. I couldn't make out those errors in the match in ep. 5. But, well I hope they won't fuck up further with this :getlost:

                        “As I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!” – David Scott, Moon

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                          Funny, so far there is no episode in Battery where the private sphere of the MC or he himself isn't heavily assaulted in some way or another. What's with these people?

                          “As I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!” – David Scott, Moon

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                            For people who haven't yet, I highly recommend 91 Days.
                            Came into it without any expectations and boy is it now one of my favourites.
                            A rather intelligent series and a mature one. Not comparable to the likes of Berserk because of it's setting but it's like Death Note except with more planning, cunning and no magical notebook.
                            Okay maybe Death note is a bad example but it's a smart series with a kickass main character that isn't any shounen walking trope.

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                              I can't decide if I like Servamp. It's just so odd and I can't figure out who the show's target audience is supposed to be.

                              Twin Star Exorcists is getting a bit better. Looks like a time skip is coming up. I still find it weird that evryone is telling these 14 year olds to have a baby so it could fight. At least Rokuro is right about that being absurd. And I'm glad Benio isn't stuck as a tsudere.

                              Days is so blah. But I'm bored so it'll still do. Is Haikyuu or Ace no Diamond back in the fall or spring?

                              Mob Psycho, JoJo and Shokugeki are the main shows I actually enjoy

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                                @Cyclone_Baroness:

                                Days is so blah. But I'm bored so it'll still do. Is Haikyuu or Ace no Diamond back in the fall or spring?

                                We've got Haikyuu season 3 coming next season but don't expect to see another Ace of Diamond anime for a long time. The anime has completely finished the first manga and the second act manga is only around 40 chapters in. You might just be better off catching up with the manga now because luckily someone is scanlating new chapters every week when they come out.

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                                  @Black:

                                  We've got Haikyuu season 3 coming next season but don't expect to see another Ace of Diamond anime for a long time. The anime has completely finished the first manga and the second act manga is only around 40 chapters in. You might just be better off catching up with the manga now because luckily someone is scanlating new chapters every week when they come out.

                                  Argh. I guess. Do you know which site is hosting it?

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                                    @Cyclone_Baroness:

                                    Argh. I guess. Do you know which site is hosting it?

                                    http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/diamond-no-ace-act-ii-r16168

                                    I just read it here, usually gets uploaded every week

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                                      @Black:

                                      http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/diamond-no-ace-act-ii-r16168

                                      I just read it here, usually gets uploaded every week

                                      Awesome thank you. Any idea where I should pick up if I've only been watching the anime?

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                                        @Cyclone_Baroness:

                                        Awesome thank you. Any idea where I should pick up if I've only been watching the anime?

                                        No problem, you can just start from chapter 1, that's what I did after hopping on from the end of the anime.

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                                          @Black:

                                          No problem, you can just start from chapter 1, that's what I did after hopping on from the end of the anime.

                                          But I don't want to start from the beginning lol. I just wanted to pick up where the anime leaves off. Or wait…is it one of those series broken up into parts or acts?

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                                            @Cyclone_Baroness:

                                            But I don't want to start from the beginning lol. I just wanted to pick up where the anime leaves off. Or wait…is it one of those series broken up into parts or acts?

                                            Yeah t's like Tokyo Ghoul and Tokyo Ghoul:RE just a direct sequel

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                                              Thunderbolt Fantasy is amazing and it is a sin that people in general don't rave about it more.

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                                                The part of the Thunderbolt thing I saw looked cool but I really dislike Chinese fantaay style story telling.

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                                                  91 Days Spoilers:

                                                  ! Really sad about Fango's death. He was the most entertaining character.

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                                                    ! As entertaining was he was Fango always did take me out of things a bit because you have this relatively grounded cast and then you have this guy who's basically the Joker. Like in any other story he'd be the token batshit crazy henchmen who would be dispatched in a single episode (like at the bar shootout in the first episode).
                                                    ! That said, holy shit, I expected Corteo to snap by the end of the episode, but I certainly did not expect to watch him carry out one of the most brutal killings I've seen in anime. Jesus, that was like something out of a Tarantino film.

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                                                      With the dawn of the new season ahead of us I finally catched up with Ace Attorney and JoJo:Diamond. Had a blast with both series. Especially JoJo. Kira is such a good villain, you find yourself rooting for this crazy massmurderer everytime. Will miss both Mob and JoJo the most next season.
                                                      Oh yeah and Re:Zero ended.

                                                      ! I often read that this series is supposed to be a deconstruction of the protag-in-another-world genre. A breath of fresh air in the anime fug. With the veeery slow start, the moeness everywhere and the harem potential still around, it really isn't.
                                                      Pacing got better and the anime became quite epic, so that's that. And we got a happy ending (A feat, for a series known for brutal cliffhangers).

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                                                        Oh yeah and Re:Zero ended. I often read that this series is supposed to be a deconstruction of the protag-in-another-world genre. A breath of fresh air in the anime fug. With the veeery slow start, the moeness everywhere and the harem potential still around, it really isn't.

                                                        The thing is, it's not a total deconstruction of the genre to begin with, as it mainly focuses on protagonist-level. It was meant to be a Take That to deluded NEETs who think they can do anything without putting much effort, just like their "glorified underdog" template is handled in god knows how many isekai genre series out there. Suffaru doesn't get any privilege of being strong and influential enough to be able to drive the plot forward, but instead he befriends people that are labeled as such.

                                                        Also, what harem potential really? There's only Emilia and Rem, but Suffaru has already set his eyes on the former, leaving little chance to the latter. It'd be polygamy at best.

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                                                          Post Re:Zero anime spoiler.

                                                          ! It's really only Emilia. The anime cuts it right like a few seconds before the suffering cliffhanger. Subaru starts talking about Rem and Emilia replies "Who is Rem?" What happens is Crusch and Rem get attacked by the Archbishops of Greed and Gluttony on their way back after the battle with the White Whale. Gluttony attacks Rem and she falls into a coma and everyone forgets her expect for Subaru. The web novel is currently at arc 6 and she is still in a coma. Anime ended near the end of arc 3.

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                                                            The thing is, it's not a total deconstruction of the genre to begin with, as it mainly focuses on protagonist-level. It was meant to be a Take That to deluded NEETs who think they can do anything without putting much effort, just like their "glorified underdog" template is handled in god knows how many isekai genre series out there. Suffaru doesn't get any privilege of being strong and influential enough to be able to drive the plot forward, but instead he befriends people that are labeled as such.

                                                            Ah, thanks for clearing that up.
                                                            Aren't two women technically a harem? Well the anime ends with him being able to "get" both girls. Which looks alot like otaku wish fulfillment.

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                                                              Aren't two women technically a harem? Well the anime ends with him being able to "get" both girls. Which looks alot like otaku wish fulfillment.

                                                              If you put it that way, maybe it kind of is. The polygamy thing was a half-joke though. Surely having one girl so devoted to you while you're chasing another is one aspect of wish-fulfillment, but I bet most would rather not taste all the sufferings that entail it.

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                                                                Ah, thanks for clearing that up.
                                                                Aren't two women technically a harem? Well the anime ends with him being able to "get" both girls. Which looks alot like otaku wish fulfillment.

                                                                2 is usually just a love triangle. When you start getting more it's a harem.

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                                                                  This summer season was dope for me.

                                                                  Every friday I had a tripple treat of JoJo (Serial Killer David Bowie eps, at that!), 91 Days and Thunderbolt Fantasy, which would be followed up by some glorious Mob Psycho 100 on monday.

                                                                  Hell, this might be the first season where I followed multiple shows without any of them deflating along the way.

                                                                  Greato!

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                                                                    It's once again time for a round-up! Summer was really solid.

                                                                    I ended up dropping Tales of Zestiria because the characters and story just ended up really boring, the animation was incredible, but everything else just wasn't enough to keep me watching in the end.

                                                                    Sweetness and Lightning is probably my favorite of the season. Mostly because of the heartwarming elements and specifically how it portrays the child character in a much more "grounded" way, more like a real little kid, which is pretty rare.

                                                                    Thunderbolt Fantasy was pretty much great all throughout, the only thing holding it back from being my favorite that the characters are in the end standard archtypes. They're extremely well-done standard archtypes, but archtypes regardless. As said at the start of the season, it's still something I've quite never seen before. The puppets look great and the sets look great, with really cool-looking action scenes, though I do think there are occassions where they look a little too awkward. The soundtrack is my favorite Hiroyuki Sawano soundtrack since Attack On Titan's. Almost every track is great; and hell yes, a second season is confirmed.
                                                                    Mob Psycho 100 isn't my favorite because in the end I do think the first half is pretty slow in hindsight, but it, as said at the start of the season, looks incredible in an entirely different way than Thunderbolt Fantasy or Zestiria do, making it another thing I haven't see anything like. The characters slowly grew on me, but they did so and in the end I really liked it for the theme of struggling to stay kind in a tough world.
                                                                    Berserk looked like crap, but I still ended up liking it because the writing is still pretty strong. Out of the new characters I grew to like big sisterly Luca the most. Out of the old ones, Guts' struggle is still very engaging. While the original presented a great tragedy, this season ended on a much more positive take on Berserk's theme of people choosing their own fate. For once Guts had somewhat of a happy ending to his struggles. Presenting another tragedy would've been just as fitting, but this offered it's own satisfaction.

                                                                    Macross Delta ended up just a notch above Macross Frontier because I somewhat at least ended up caring about the characters, not by much, but a little bit. It was really really dumb, it wasn't the most entertaining either, but I wasn't bored once.
                                                                    Bananya was just cute fun.

                                                                    So yeah, solid season.

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