The road to the end

imperioonepiece

First, sorry if there's already another similar thread.

I would like to start this thread to discuss in broad strokes what is going to be the road to the end, I mean, what's gonna happen now, who will be the next antagonists, etc.

For example, I think that after Sanji's rescue arc, and while traveling to Wano, Luffy and the others will fight against Edward Weevil, and then will start the arc of Kaidou and Wano, then there will be the arc against Big Mom, and some other supernovas, and will end after beating Shanks and Kurohige (in that order), get the One Piece and fight Luffy with his allies against world government.

But maybe this is an issue that is too son to be discused.

ASM

From where we are in the story, the road to the end looks more clear than ever IMO. After Zou and Sanji's rescue (which will probably incorporate Whole Cake Island), we have Wano, which should be absolutely massive considering how long Oda has been hyping it up. After that, I believe that we have Elbaf, then an arc concerning Shanks, followed by Raftel and the foreshadowed Great War to conclude the series.

As for the supernovas, I think their story arcs will be incorporated into the stories of the remainder of the Four Emperors.

I would love to be proven wrong though; Oda's ability to twist and turn fans' expectations is one of my favorite things about One Piece!

imperioonepiece

@ASM:

From where we are in the story, the road to the end looks more clear than ever IMO. After Zou and Sanji's rescue (which will probably incorporate Whole Cake Island), we have Wano, which should be absolutely massive considering how long Oda has been hyping it up. After that, I believe that we have Elbaf, then an arc concerning Shanks, followed by Raftel and the foreshadowed Great War to conclude the series.

As for the supernovas, I think their story arcs will be incorporated into the stories of the remainder of the Four Emperors.

I would love to be proven wrong though; Oda's ability to twist and turn fans' expectations is one of my favorite things about One Piece!

Yeah, exactly because now the road to the end looks clearer than ever is that I decided to make this thread, in any case, what will happen with the supernovas is unknown to us, but maybe there will be arcs for some of them, I hope so.

Captain M

You never really know the road ahead with One Piece. Remember at the end of Water Seven when Fishman Island was confirmed as the next destination, and was massively hyped because that was a place first mentioned back in East Blue, but then between Thriller Bark and Marineford it was another 16 volumes and like 3 real world years before the crew actually got there.

Like, let's look at all the stuff that still needs to be covered, just the big plot important things alone:
Whole Cake Island + Sanji rescue
Wano and Kaidou
Elbaf
Locating the last Road Poneglyph
The Reverie
Kid's alliance and Shanks
Blackbeard and the Revolutionaries
The Void Century
Weevil and Marco
The national treasure of Mariejoa
The incident the Straw Hat Grand Fleet causes
Closure between Luffy and Sakazuki
Closure between Luffy and Blackbeard
Raftel, the end war, and the true nature of the One Piece
Established completetion of each crew member's ultimate goal

Naturally there's no reason two or more of those things couldn't happen in the one arc, in fact I'd say it's unlikely they'll all be individual things, but it's still a hell of a lot to cover and Oda is a master of chucking us curve balls.

mbaruh

I think everyone agrees it's going to be Whole Cake Island and then Wano. I'll just mention that so far the general outline of the NW was the same as Paradise's, so I'm going to assume Weevil will come AFTER Wano (which together with Whole Cake takes the spot of Water7+EL)- a small arc which involves defeating a shichibukai, like TB, only that this time I doubt that Luffy will be the one to fight Weevil, and it will probably incorporate Marco+other WB pirates (perhaps making an alliance with Luffy against BB).

I doubt Luffy will fight Shanks or BM.

Now this is something that I can't even speculate: I have no idea where they will be fighting Weevil or what will be the theme of the arc.
Then we have in no particular order Elbaf, and an arc involving Sentoumaru, Kuma and Vegapunk (together). Weevil could be joined with one of those arcs, or all three could be joined.. I have no idea.
Then we have Raftel (perhaps before that a small arc about finding the location of Raftel) which will involve BB + marines + revos + WG + whatever. Luffy will act upon the true history unlike Roger, but I find it hard imagining the series continuing after Luffy becomes pirate king.

This is too much speculation and will probably change like 5-6 times lol.

EDIT: already mistaken, eh? seems like Weevil comes first, and Neko will tell us of the location of the battle.

LightningAce

@Captain:

You never really know the road ahead with One Piece. Remember at the end of Water Seven when Fishman Island was confirmed as the next destination, and was massively hyped because that was a place first mentioned back in East Blue, but then between Thriller Bark and Marineford it was another 16 volumes and like 3 real world years before the crew actually got there.

Like, let's look at all the stuff that still needs to be covered, just the big plot important things alone:
Whole Cake Island + Sanji rescue
Wano and Kaidou
Elbaf
Locating the last Road Poneglyph
The Reverie
Kid's alliance and Shanks
Blackbeard and the Revolutionaries
The Void Century
Weevil and Marco
The national treasure of Mariejoa
The incident the Straw Hat Grand Fleet causes
Closure between Luffy and Sakazuki
Closure between Luffy and Blackbeard
Raftel, the end war, and the true nature of the One Piece
Established completetion of each crew member's ultimate goal

Naturally there's no reason two or more of those things couldn't happen in the one arc, in fact I'd say it's unlikely they'll all be individual things, but it's still a hell of a lot to cover and Oda is a master of chucking us curve balls.

There is the issue of Caribou and him learning of Shirahoshi being Poseidon. he's working for someone, because he said that person would be interested to know this, but that is clearly leading to something big as well.

mbaruh

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Roronoa Zacho

@Captain:

You never really know the road ahead with One Piece. Remember at the end of Water Seven when Fishman Island was confirmed as the next destination, and was massively hyped because that was a place first mentioned back in East Blue, but then between Thriller Bark and Marineford it was another 16 volumes and like 3 real world years before the crew actually got there.

Like, let's look at all the stuff that still needs to be covered, just the big plot important things alone:
Whole Cake Island + Sanji rescue
Wano and Kaidou
Elbaf
Locating the last Road Poneglyph
The Reverie
Kid's alliance and Shanks
Blackbeard and the Revolutionaries
The Void Century
Weevil and Marco
The national treasure of Mariejoa
The incident the Straw Hat Grand Fleet causes
Closure between Luffy and Sakazuki
Closure between Luffy and Blackbeard
Raftel, the end war, and the true nature of the One Piece
Established completetion of each crew member's ultimate goal

Naturally there's no reason two or more of those things couldn't happen in the one arc, in fact I'd say it's unlikely they'll all be individual things, but it's still a hell of a lot to cover and Oda is a master of chucking us curve balls.

You forgot whatever Enel found on the moon (IMO it is Ouranos).

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Since Enel travelled from JAYA- (Gaia) ground to the sky (Ouranos) it is plausbile to assume he found Ouranos on the moon. For more Explanation please read the ancient greek myth of creation.

IDK what else should be Ouranos. Also IMO the AW are not weapons but more likely Tools. A Translation error by Ohara might be a good Twist to Show that this ancient civilization was not that bad.

DonPatch

@Roronoa:

You forgot whatever Enel found on the moon (IMO it is Ouranos).

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Since Enel travelled from JAYA- (Gaia) ground to the sky (Ouranos) it is plausbile to assume he found Ouranos on the moon. For more Explanation please read the ancient greek myth of creation.

IDK what else should be Ouranos. Also IMO the AW are not weapons but more likely Tools. A Translation error by Ohara might be a good Twist to Show that this ancient civilization was not that bad.

I always felt that Eneru's cover story was really important in regards to the lost history. A possible location is that the Straw Hats could go to the moon and find all kinds of stuff pertaining to the history of the world since we know the Shandians descended from the moon. Possibly, when we meet Vegapunk he could turn the Sunny into a rocket. I can't imagine Oda or Luffy could turn down One Piece in space. Just speculation though. The moon holds so much mystery that I think it's more important than many believe at this point in the story.

Robby

While outer space and aliens being part of the history is definitely part of the history, I think the Strawhats actually going into space is a step too far for the series as a whole.

It could happen, Oda's established there's space stuff, but it seems too much.

imperioonepiece

With this new chapter, probably Luffy will go to Whole Cake Island, and before Wano (I hope he beats another Shichibukai before fighting against a Yonkou and not the other way around) will fight against Weevil.

Roronoa Zacho

@imperioonepiece:

With this new chapter, probably Luffy will go to Whole Cake Island, and before Wano (I hope he beats another Shichibukai before fighting against a Yonkou and not the other way around) will fight against Weevil.

They fight with Weeble, but Weeble's hatred against BB might turn things around. After all his "mom" wants to find Marco. Weeble just wants revenge on BB.

And yeah, right now I also don't see the SHs in space, but who said Eneru won't return to OP-earth? Jaya definitely is connected to what ever is in the moon (the guys on the wall have the same wings as Bircans and Kalgara, 2different types of wings though) and Jaya was "penetrated" by Ouranos in greek mythology of creation. It is just my best guess regarding Ouranos. It is the thing Eneru has discovered. What else should it be? A giant bird? An airplane? Superman? IDK.

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And Raftel is the island/country Clover was talking about. It is not MJ. I will point out why:
1. The island that was shown in Clovers explanation is an island, not a kingdom on the redline. We see that island surrounded by water, not by clouds. If Oda wanted us to speculate if it is MJ, he would have surrounded it with clouds/fog. But it is pretty much the same structure like the structure that is always shown when there is a talk about Raftel (Piles, bushes/trees, and so on).
2. There is this argument that MJ was the former HQ of the Ancient KD and was then occupied by the newly found WG. IMO the Ancient KD NEVER was near MJ (though they were affiliated with FI, that's the closest spot the Ancient KD reached). But how do I come to this conclusion? Well, lets look @ the WG itself:
Their world nobles love to look down on people. They even call themselves "heavenly dragon people" and they use "Saint" as their titles.
The WG sees itself as some kind of divine institution. Now do you really think the Ancient KD was anything like that? I don't think so.
MJ was built AFTER the Ancient KD was defeated. So the 20 founding kings could look down on the world and the whole world has to look up on them and the world would easier treat those 20 kings like gods.
I hope any disagree-ers will at least get my point now why I don't think the Ancient KD was MJ.

omy785

@Robby:

While outer space and aliens being part of the history is definitely part of the history, I think the Strawhats actually going into space is a step too far for the series as a whole.

It could happen, Oda's established there's space stuff, but it seems too much.

Yeah, I agree…I really don't see the SH going in space or having a "moon or space arc", that seems just too much..

Roronoa Zacho

@omy785:

Yeah, I agree…I really don't see the SH going in space or having a "moon or space arc", that seems just too much..

I'm also not seeing the SHs go to outer space.
But I guess Eneru could use this army of Spaceys for his own purposes. He must. He is their energy source!
I've re-read that cover Story again and the only Thing I don't get is how that old Professor was able to create just the same Spaceys as the ones inside the moon.
Maybe he had old blueprints of the original Inventors of the spaceys.

PatrickJGM

If the TS want to discuss about antagonist characters after sanji rescue arc, i think there are a few names that could become a threat for SHP and their alliances… Except the Yonkos, the closest are Jack and Edward Weevil!

Buggy D. Clown

SHs are not going to space…Space is gonna come to them...I mean they're gonna meet the little moon people when they encounter Enel. Enel is sure to come down with that interesting cover story he had..wonder when though? I think his little people who need electricity will become Nami's minions, she needs her little own army lol it be cool seeing her using thunder n using those little moon people strategically in battle. just a thought

Roronoa Zacho

@Buggy:

SHs are not going to space…Space is gonna come to them...I mean they're gonna meet the little moon people when they encounter Enel. Enel is sure to come down with that interesting cover story he had..wonder when though? I think his little people who need electricity will become Nami's minions, she needs her little own army lol it be cool seeing her using thunder n using those little moon people strategically in battle. just a thought

So you also see that Nami and Enel have quite some things in common? They also hd some moments on Enel's ark, but she was too weak back then to handle him alone. IMO sooner or later Nami will have any ability to beat him (their Motive for fighting could indeed be those Spaceys Enel gathered at the moon).
What I also read in his cover Story is that the moon City also was called "Birka", just like the home of Enel and the priests. And still I wonder if any of the stuff Enel has discovered up there is related to Ouranos.