I'm betting that Bartolomeo won't recognize Sanji when hey reach Zou, or whatever island they're on.
This will be a hilarious encounter.
dude recognized sogeking as ussopp. I doubt he wont recognize sanji
I'm betting that Bartolomeo won't recognize Sanji when hey reach Zou, or whatever island they're on.
This will be a hilarious encounter.
dude recognized sogeking as ussopp. I doubt he wont recognize sanji
I wonder how the whole "be under your flag" will go.
since he will be the boss,he would be responsible for what they do,and some of this are basically criminals..so could it be that they are gonna make worse the strawhats reputaion just by going around saying they are they subordinates?
even though the mugiwara's reputation is already bad as it is
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dude recognized sogeking as ussopp. I doubt he wont recognize sanji
The wanted poster for Sogeking shares unmistakable traits with Usopp's regular look though ie his prominent nose.
Sanji's wanted poster looks nothing like him at all.
Also, Oda loves to torture Sanji and this will probably be the next incident in that vein.
Is Underwater Fighter/Diver not an option for a position in the crew or that would be just racist?
The wanted poster for Sogeking shares unmistakable traits with Usopp's regular look though ie his prominent nose.
Sanji's wanted poster looks nothing like him at all.
Also, Oda loves to torture Sanji and this will probably be the next incident in that vein.
yeah but you're forgetting he saw the SH crew at loguetown( and the only people in the main square were sanji/zoro/luffy)
The wanted poster for Sogeking shares unmistakable traits with Usopp's regular look though ie his prominent nose.
Sanji's wanted poster looks nothing like him at all.
Also, Oda loves to torture Sanji and this will probably be the next incident in that vein.
He'll torture him, don't worry… Imagine:
Bartho: "Omg omg omg, black leg sanji, omg omg omg !!!"
"Sanji": How do you know me?"
"Bartho: "You're exactly like the pic on your wanted poster, omg omg omg!"
Lol
yeah but you're forgetting he saw the SH crew at loguetown( and the only people in the main square were sanji/zoro/luffy)
He saw Luffy on the execution stand, getting saved by lightning. That's when he started getting interested. @Maju:
I wonder how the whole "be under your flag" will go. since he will be the boss,he would be responsible for what they do,and some of this are basically criminals..so could it be that they are gonna make worse the strawhats reputaion just by going around saying they are they subordinates? even though the mugiwara's reputation is already bad as it is
I don't think so. Besides most of the rumors are exaggerated.
I wonder how the whole "be under your flag" will go.
since he will be the boss,he would be responsible for what they do,and some of this are basically criminals..so could it be that they are gonna make worse the strawhats reputaion just by going around saying they are they subordinates?even though the mugiwara's reputation is already bad as it is
And I wonder how Oda is gonna handle that.
One or another fan wasn't ok with the way the fights have been displayed (or not displayed) because of the sheer number of combatants. I can only imagine that if sth like a barrier is needed when the SHs are in Trouble, Barto might Show up and make a barrier.
It's hard enough to give each SH screentime when there are nine of it and now we have a whole fleet of chars (though I expect we're just gonna see the guys from the colloseum).
Does anyone else miss the Funk Bros? Elizabello couldn't join cause he is a king, but what about Kerry and Bobby?
And I wonder how Oda is gonna handle that.
One or another fan wasn't ok with the way the fights have been displayed (or not displayed) because of the sheer number of combatants. I can only imagine that if sth like a barrier is needed when the SHs are in Trouble, Barto might Show up and make a barrier.
It's hard enough to give each SH screentime when there are nine of it and now we have a whole fleet of chars (though I expect we're just gonna see the guys from the colloseum).
Does anyone else miss the Funk Bros? Elizabello couldn't join cause he is a king, but what about Kerry and Bobby?
They backstabbed luffy so i doubt they would join.
And I wonder how Oda is gonna handle that.
One or another fan wasn't ok with the way the fights have been displayed (or not displayed) because of the sheer number of combatants. I can only imagine that if sth like a barrier is needed when the SHs are in Trouble, Barto might Show up and make a barrier.
It's hard enough to give each SH screentime when there are nine of it and now we have a whole fleet of chars (though I expect we're just gonna see the guys from the colloseum).
Does anyone else miss the Funk Bros? Elizabello couldn't join cause he is a king, but what about Kerry and Bobby?
Funk bros betrayed luffy by showing him fake shortcut
Oh sorry didn't see your post up there jabso thelaw
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They backstabbed luffy so i doubt they would join.
I still like 'em. Kerry's DF was one of the craziest DFs I have seen for a Long time. DFs like MachVise' or Gladius' seem to me like "recycled" and there have been Logias left and right. But the coat-DF was pretty wicked. And the combined design totally reminded me of (a tall) Rocky Balboa. I still hope we'l meet them again in the future. As enemies or allies. I don't care.
Ok, so suddenly the Mugiwara crew included Giants and Dwarves, Long-legs and Long-arms.
I'm not so excited about this massive recruitment though, I'd rather not see them as part of the crew but some sort of subordinates.
They would be subordinate. The chapter title suggests this, and Bartonsays himself "can we join on as subordinate crews under the flagship straw hat crew?"
And I wonder how Oda is gonna handle that.
One or another fan wasn't ok with the way the fights have been displayed (or not displayed) because of the sheer number of combatants. I can only imagine that if sth like a barrier is needed when the SHs are in Trouble, Barto might Show up and make a barrier.
It's hard enough to give each SH screentime when there are nine of it and now we have a whole fleet of chars (though I expect we're just gonna see the guys from the colloseum).
Does anyone else miss the Funk Bros? Elizabello couldn't join cause he is a king, but what about Kerry and Bobby?
Kerry and Bobby are snitchers. They were on Doflamingo's side when he announced the prizes.
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Ya'll forgot Captain Buggy's and Mr 3's fleet. He's also an allie of the strawhats. He couldn't have made it out of Impel Down without Luffy.
Neither all of these stupid jailers.
Ah so the citizens of Dressrosa were only pretending to be retarded. Amazing.
I'm almost certain that Luffy's response to the parent & child relationship is just going to be him going "Huh? I don't understand, we're all just friends"
Agreed. Something like "Sail with my flag if you want, I don't care, but I don't feel like being your dad. You're friends."
The wanted poster for Sogeking shares unmistakable traits with Usopp's regular look though ie his prominent nose.
Sanji's wanted poster looks nothing like him at all.
Also, Oda loves to torture Sanji and this will probably be the next incident in that vein.
Doesn't everyone recognize him from the poster?
Doesn't everyone recognize him from the poster?
Oda seems to mix people's perception of the poster up, depending on the situation.
I doubt he'll pass up this opportunity.
The Strawhat crew really took a turn to the darker now that they've got a tail of killers and psychos.
Well i guess Zoro still kinda filled that position before. But atleast he didn't cut peoples tounges out.
Now it seems like my theory on CC being next nakama is getting closer to be a reality, people arguing he is a psycho and Luffy won't ever allow him… CC may not join as part of Luffy main crew but as under Luffy in one of the 7 fleet. I just can't see Law letting CC go and CC have no where else to go.
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The wanted poster for Sogeking shares unmistakable traits with Usopp's regular look though ie his prominent nose.
Sanji's wanted poster looks nothing like him at all.
Also, Oda loves to torture Sanji and this will probably be the next incident in that vein.
But so far every single person has recognized Sanji even though his bounty looks nothing like him….
Now it seems like my theory on CC being next nakama is getting closer to be a reality, people arguing he is a psycho and Luffy won't ever allow him… CC may not join as part of Luffy main crew but as under Luffy in one of the 7 fleet. I just can't see Law letting CC go and CC have no where else to go.
There's dark, and then there's experimenting on children.
It's not going to happen.
But so far every single person has recognized Sanji even though his bounty looks nothing like him….
Yeah, and majority of people recognize Usopp as Sogeking, while some don't for comic effect.
I'm saying that Barto will probably go on at length about each crew member, praising them heavily and fanboying before suddenly stopping at Sanji, unable to recognise him…
...for comic effect.
I'm saying that Barto will probably go on at length about each crew member, praising them heavily and fanboying before suddenly stopping at Sanji, unable to recognise him…
...for comic effect.
Wonder what Bartolomeo thinks of Sanji in the crew. He said he thinks zoro is vice captain or something. Sanji sure won't like it if he tells him he's 3rd in the crew after Zoro:ninja:
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Wonder what Bartolomeo thinks of Sanji in the crew. He said he thinks zoro is vice captain or something. Sanji sure won't like it if he tells him he's 3rd in the crew after Zoro:ninja:
Well if Sanji doesn't like it then Sanji better train the fuck up and get on Zoro's level :ninja:
It'd be funny if the rest of the crew gets to see sanji's bounty poster before he does; then on Green Bit he'd have some sort of "I feel like someone just stepped on my grave" moment.
I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering.
We don't even have to look for to much, Barto is one complete jerk and criminal when it's not the strawhats.
After this chapter I do wonder if Jinbei will now just be an ally since he still has sun pirates in tow. Luffy's personal Fishman combatants.
Hancock should be another division commander so she stays relevant to the story other than being love-stricken and doing nothing for the rest of One Piece. (ideally should happen if Fuji successfully abolishes the shichibukai system).
Sun Pirates have no interest in piracy anymore. This is why Jinbe even became a Warlord in the first place.
Also, Luffy wants Jinbe on his crew instead of asking him to be a subordinate Captain.
I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering.
We don't even have to look for to much, Barto is one complete jerk and criminal when it's not the strawhats.
Atleast he doesn't literally eat people his name suggests.
He just cuts off body parts for minor slights. That's much better.
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dude recognized sogeking as ussopp. I doubt he wont recognize sanji
He questioned it at first. He reconized the nose but wasn't sure until Robin confirmed it.
Thay said, I hope this leads to Usopp getting his own wanted poster. Maybe have a mention that he was Sogeking though.
I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering.
We don't even have to look for to much, Barto is one complete jerk and criminal when it's not the strawhats.
Barto was a troll, people said omg he is evil, he is going to throw a bomb at us and it was just a stink bomb, he is just obnoxious, an asshole, his cannibal moniker is exactly a reflection on that, he mocks/irritates people.
I don't know his mafia past but in terms of piracy it seems he is just obnoxious and his "evil feats" were exagerated becuase of that.
Sun Pirates have no interest in piracy anymore. This is why Jinbe even became a Warlord in the first place.
Also, Luffy wants Jinbe on his crew instead of asking him to be a subordinate Captain.
Nah, I agree it's just so far in to the game that I wonder if we'll ever get another official Strawhat
I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering.
We don't even have to look for to much, Barto is one complete jerk and criminal when it's not the strawhats.
Yup it seems to annoy a lot of people here but we are reading a pirate manga right? The strawhats are "good guys" but still try to not look into thinks it terms of black and white. Think of the wars that Luffy can start for meat, or the unnamed marine fodder that "lost his eye from a zoro slash", or that wallet nami might have stolen once upon a time. All this didn't happened in the manga, but they could happen if we take on account the character traits. Its not the same as a beheading or a tongue cut, but the morale of a pirate and the personal motivation, could justify such actions in context.
Cant wait for 800 chapter, bellamy4nakama train is still going cho cho cho :ninja:
If Luffy truly wants to be the Pirate King, then he's going to need subordinates. While a kneejerk, "no you can't be my subordinates," feels like something Luffy would say, I think he also knows that this is an important step towards that goal.
I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering.
We don't even have to look for to much, Barto is one complete jerk and criminal when it's not the strawhats.
Did we suddenly forget him saving a defenseless Bellamy?
Depends on who "we" is.
Oddly enough i actually forgot haha, and on second thought it's not that odd in my case.
We saw Bartolomeo being a jerk with the colosseum audience, a bunch of people who were being hostile even though no one there knew him so… you can't really blame him for that. Also, being a jerk =/= being evil.
If Luffy is ok with having Duval as an ally, a man who used to kidnap people who would be turned to slavery, I doubt he will have a problem with people like Bartolomeo.
It's funny that people have been looking for every woman as a possible nakama, but in the end Luffy just got a 5,6k strong sausage fest. Of all the people asking to join Luffy, the only named women that could be there are Baby-5, Wicca and Bian.
Bonney for 8th commander!!
Liking a character does not make him a saint , Barto was actually a mafia boss and most of his alledged crimes do not seem exagerated in my eyes as we saw how fucked up he can become when people badmouth luffy , just because the person barto might attack badmouthed luffy does not make the assault of said person any less of a crime ( exemple the noble that got his tongue cut off) ; Cavendish is basically a serial killer who goes on slaughtering people each time he goes to sleep and he is perfectly aware of that , that's how he made a name for himself in the first place.
They are pirates not saints , just because they have a funny side , it doesn't mean that they are innocent victims of WG propaganda.
I don't mind them being like that because that's exactly what they are supposed to be.
Remember just before Jaya, the crew saw massive shadows of the people in Shandora? Usopp claimed at one point he beat 10 of them all by himself [laughs]. I have a feeling that when the crew makes it to Elbaf, Usopp is going to have a massive challenge set before him where he does have to battle at least 10 giants all by himself. Usopp being reminded of Elbaf just reminds me that this Island will be really significant for Usopp's growth as a character.
Yeah, and majority of people recognize Usopp as Sogeking, while some don't for comic effect.
I'm saying that Barto will probably go on at length about each crew member, praising them heavily and fanboying before suddenly stopping at Sanji, unable to recognise him…
...for comic effect.
Sounds about right, with Barto casually dismissing Sanji until he finds out who he is, then apologizing and fawning over him, telling him how much more attractive he is than his poster. Sanji would be completely confused about how to react.
It makes me wonder how much Bartolomeo actually knows about Sanji, since most of his best moments have gone without much publicity. Same definitely goes for Chopper and a lot of the rest of the crew. Barto was probably completely unaware of Brook being part of the crew until a few days ago, for instance. And if he knew about Zoro and Kuma back on Thriller Bark he'd probably go full foaming-mouth guy.
How is it Hakuba hasn't killed Cavendish's crewmates? They must have some system in places that puts him in shackles or maybe he just puts away his cursed sword.
I am pretty sure that Hakuba is the original personality, and cavendish is the alter-ego. I think Bastille explained Hakuba's backstory, and that was a fairly heavy implication.
Of course, he may not know himself which was the original, only knowing of Hakuba first and foremost since he is the dangerous one. But, I think Hakuba is the primary personality. So, a sword doesn't turn him into Hakuba (though maybe it does make him more violent - who knows).
They probably shackle him. That would make sense. And is also super ridiculous.
I am pretty sure that Hakuba is the original personality, and cavendish is the alter-ego. I think Bastille explained Hakuba's backstory, and that was a fairly heavy implication.
Of course, he may not know himself which was the original, only knowing of Hakuba first and foremost since he is the dangerous one. But, I think Hakuba is the primary personality. So, a sword doesn't turn him into Hakuba (though maybe it does make him more violent - who knows).
They probably shackle him. That would make sense. And is also super ridiculous.
Cavendish is the original, considering that he's the one who gives permission for Hakuba to leave, and the fact that Hakuba only comes during a special condition and doesn't last long.
Wow. This chapter sure is epic. It changed my view of many things that happened in the arc. Juts now I can see a purpose for the Gladiators and I realize it's really nice to write an arc to form Luffy's arm and that a really cool way to do it was to introduce all the underlings in a tourney of gladiators. Mindblowing solution! It' a cliché but: Oda is a genius.
Dressrosan finally were resurrected from the stupidity. In this chapter they went from annoying masses to relevant citizens who deserves to be saved. … Now the only stupid is Riku, who rules a nation that let him be the stupid prejudiced king he is. lol.
So happy with this chapter!
Oh you are quite forgiving. For me one good chapter is not sufficient to redeem the pain that was this arc to read. And honestly it made me quite unsure on how well Oda will be able to continue using all these characters in the story.
So i’m in a wait and see mode. Hopefully the Kaidou chapter proved that some fresh air was hellpful
I think Oda will just have the alliance members "go away", while the SHs continue on with their normal quest. Then they'll be called situationally for certain arcs, but never altogether until we have a full blown out war between the SH alliance vs. some Yonkou and/or World Government.
When I first read the title of the chapter, I imediately thought to myself: Dragon!? As in common treats between them..etc then Kid is Shanks son (lol in that case Kid is a D. too) the KyrosxBecca? Nah that was done already then GarpxDragonxFuji came to mind XD
Anyways wasn't expecting it to be Luffy's.
Law is being taught first hand by the next in-line Pirate king on how to become the one and Live freely as a D. + recruiting allies. He should be gratWhen I first read the title of chapter, I imediately thought to myself: Dragon!? As in common treats between them..etc then Kid is Shanks son(lol in that case Kid is a D. too) the KyrosxBecca? Nah that was done already then GarpxDragonxFuji came to mind XD
Anyways wasn't expecting it to be Luffy's.
Law is being taught first hand by the next in-line Pirate king on how to become the one and Live freely as a D. + recruiting allies. He should be grateful.
I am pretty sure that Hakuba is the original personality, and cavendish is the alter-ego. I think Bastille explained Hakuba's backstory, and that was a fairly heavy implication.
Of course, he may not know himself which was the original, only knowing of Hakuba first and foremost since he is the dangerous one. But, I think Hakuba is the primary personality. So, a sword doesn't turn him into Hakuba (though maybe it does make him more violent - who knows).
They probably shackle him. That would make sense. And is also super ridiculous.
Where did you get the idea Hakuba is the original haha that's actually really funny. Cavendish is the main, Hakuba is the alter ego that appears very briefly when Cav falls asleep. Interesting how you perceived it though.
You think Shanks is a D?
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the opposite.
Hakuba only coming out when Cavendish is asleep feels a lot like supressed emotions. Maybe he supressed his original violent behaviour because it was too dangerous to those around him and it "cracked into a new personality". "Cavendish" being what he wanted to present himself as to others and what he allowed to be perceived when he can consciously control himself, and "Hakuba" being his true self that manifests once he is asleep and can't hold it back.
Luffy personaly released Crocodile from his cell, and enabled the Impel Down breakout, things that affect directly his very close friends and the world at large. I don't think that he would care about what the colliseum dudes did.
Did we suddenly forget him saving a defenseless Bellamy?
He still had his crew mates go cutoff people's fingers just for attacking his turf. Imagine what he will do to people who attack Luffy territory in future.
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Luffy personaly released Crocodile from his cell, and enabled the Impel Down breakout, things that affect directly his very close friends and the world at large. I don't think that he would care about what the colliseum dudes did.
Preach more, I been trying to tell people this that Luffy is no saint they are pirates.. This people who escaped thanks to Luffy probably went and murder bunch and other stuff to innocent civilians.. In real world Luffy will actually be a wanted man for real crimes.
Big mom will destroy an island because of candy, guess what Luffy said? I will understand if it was meat, so Luffy will let someone destroy an island because of meat, this are small dialogs Oda is putting in there but people are missing it or dismissing it as a comedy.
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To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the opposite.
Hakuba only coming out when Cavendish is asleep feels a lot like supressed emotions. Maybe he supressed his original violent behaviour because it was too dangerous to those around him and it "cracked into a new personality". "Cavendish" being what he wanted to present himself as to others and what he allowed to be perceived when he can consciously control himself, and "Hakuba" being his true self that manifests once he is asleep and can't hold it back.
That would be deep.
He still had his crew mates go cutoff people's fingers just for attacking his turf. Imagine what he will do to people who attack Luffy territory in future.
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Preach more, I been trying to tell people this that Luffy is no saint they are pirates.. This people who escaped thanks to Luffy probably went and murder bunch and other stuff to innocent civilians.. In real world Luffy will actually be a wanted man for real crimes.
Big mom will destroy an island because of candy, guess what Luffy said? I will understand if it was meat, so Luffy will let someone destroy an island because of meat, this are small dialogs Oda is putting in there but people are missing it or dismissing it as a comedy.
Yes, we can dismiss that stuff as comedy (example, Luffy refusing the title of hero because he doesn't want to share meat). After all, in this very chapter, we saw Luffy unnecessarily telling his attacks to a blind Admiral and having an entire country watching his back. It was enough to make Fuji regret taking his sight away. Fuji even went on to say he had a kind face. Are you going to say a guy like that would destroy a country for petty reasons?
And let's not forget how he helped Rebecca reunite herself with her father, even at the expense of getting the whole country to go after him.
Abdullah & Jeet reformed in their ways thanks to Usopp, even rejecting monetary reward and saving Luffy and Law from drowning, Cavendish defended Rebecca against the oppressive audience and even managed to keep his dark side in check, Bartolomeo defended a person that wasn't related to the Straw Hats for no reason but for the fact they are "brothers in arms", Sai defended Luffy from being expelled from the tournament and the Happo Navy have been trying to stop Doula's war-mongering and so on…
In other words, all those people have shown good sides, especially after being saved from a potential lifetime of slave work and "literally" finding God. Luffy is a pirate, but he is definitely on the extremely light side of the grey scale. He's not a saint because that's exaggerating, but he is a good person because his selfishness extends to helping his friends.