No love for Jean Ango?
One Piece Film Gold (July 2016)
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No love for Jean Ango?
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No love for Jean Ango?
Or Shuraiya Bascùd? lol
[Hide]Would love to see a similar character like him in the series or future movie?[/Hide]
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No love for Jean Ango?
Not even Oda liked that guy, he didn't made a return like the other colosseum figthers
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Or Shuraiya Bascùd? lol
[Hide]Would love to see a similar character like him in the series or future movie?[/Hide]
Ohh I had forgotten our Killbill dressed Bounty Hunter… maybe because he wasn't the main villain of the story? That movie was FUN, considering how old it is and how far back in the series it is, its still fun because its a quick adventure in a plausible scenario. The main Villain was okay-ish (well...considering the green jell-o logia...).
I don't know if similar, maybe a bounty hunter that is not driven by bounties itself, but by hate. Anyway, until we have more info about the movie I guess we would just be blindly guessing and wishing.
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Ohh I had forgotten our Killbill dressed Bounty Hunter… maybe because he wasn't the main villain of the story? That movie was FUN, considering how old it is and how far back in the series it is, its still fun because its a quick adventure in a plausible scenario. The main Villain was okay-ish (well...considering the green jell-o logia...).
I don't know if similar, maybe a bounty hunter that is not driven by bounties itself, but by hate. Anyway, until we have more info about the movie I guess we would just be blindly guessing and wishing.
True that. The way the character is structure. You would think Oda had a backup plan to introduce a character like that in the series? Instead we get a cameo from this guy!
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Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this picture? Oda loves bartenders confirm! XD
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Same.
This seems to be the only fan site that makes a big deal about them. When compared other factions and organizations, bounty hunters are the least interesting.
It's only the least interesting because the straw hats haven't met anyone who was a bounty hunter that has actually posed a threat. If Oda were to expound upon this idea in the manga a little more people all over the net would love bounty hunters.
It's a great idea but if it were in the manga and then in put int the movie I think it would go over better with the fans rather than just insert bad guy BH here for movie.
My guess is that it'll be about the revolutionary army or a branch of the army that is way too destructive, like net navy or w/e.
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Maybe we will get so hear/see who killed Z's crew, since it is only a guessing game of who did it. For some reason, I'd like to see Red, but that isn't going to happen. Then again, maybe an unlimited movie would be cool.
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Really… its about time we get a really dangerous crew of bounty hunters, this line of plot has a lot of potential and yet hasn't been exploited beyond some lame bounty hunters in Saboady or that one in the Colisseum that wasn't even that strong.
It's a shame that it hasn't been expanded upon in the manga aswell.
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It's only the least interesting because the straw hats haven't met anyone who was a bounty hunter that has actually posed a threat. If Oda were to expound upon this idea in the manga a little more people all over the net would love bounty hunters.
It's a great idea but if it were in the manga and then in put int the movie I think it would go over better with the fans rather than just insert bad guy BH here for movie.
My guess is that it'll be about the revolutionary army or a branch of the army that is way too destructive, like net navy or w/e.
I think it's far too late in the story to make bounty hunters anything special.
Like S.C. Amigo mentioned, the Marines and the Warlords do enough of the general pirate hunting on their own. Unlike the Navy, Cipher Pol, Revolutionary Army, etc., Bounty Hunters aren't a united organization or a military force.
The sole purpose of a bounty hunter is….to collect a bounty. The problem with this is that almost anyone can do what a bounty hunter does. The people of Dressrosa were even doing it under pressure.
You're hardly going to see a prominent bounty hunter appear deep in the Grand Line, because capturing a low-level bounty of about 10-20 million is enough to set said bounty hunter for life. -
It's only the least interesting because the straw hats haven't met anyone who was a bounty hunter that has actually posed a threat. If Oda were to expound upon this idea in the manga a little more people all over the net would love bounty hunters.
It's a great idea but if it were in the manga and then in put int the movie I think it would go over better with the fans rather than just insert bad guy BH here for movie.
My guess is that it'll be about the revolutionary army or a branch of the army that is way too destructive, like net navy or w/e.
The problem with bounty hunters is that by nature, they're just motivated by money, which is very weak compared to other motivations by pirates, marines and warlords, with their conquering ambitions, enforcement of justice and general destruction.
The manga has already introduced a few bounty hunters, but a lot of them retired exactly because they found better things to do: Zoro, Franky, Daz Bones, Abdullah & Jeet…
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I think it's far too late in the story to make bounty hunters anything special.
Like S.C. Amigo mentioned, the Marines and the Warlords do enough of the general pirate hunting on their own. Unlike the Navy, Cipher Pol, Revolutionary Army, etc., Bounty Hunters aren't a united organization or a military force.
The sole purpose of a bounty hunter is….to collect a bounty. The problem with this is that almost anyone can do what a bounty hunter does. The people of Dressrosa were even doing it under pressure.
You're hardly going to see a prominent bounty hunter appear deep in the Grand Line, because capturing a low-level bounty of about 10-20 million is enough to set said bounty hunter for life.I don't think so. Oda has plans to show again Johnny and Yosaku. And i feel it will be in Wano (training with other swordmans) and maybe they will introduce a new team of Bounty Hunters who are capable of hunting big hit pirates.
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I don't think so. Oda has plans to show again Johnny and Yosaku. And i feel it will be in Wano (training with other swordmans) and maybe they will introduce a new team of Bounty Hunters who are capable of hunting big hit pirates.
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@Devil:
I know that. I was talking about the story not a cover. Johnny and Yosaku sailed to Wano to shape their swords and then PAM, Kaidou conflict provoking a war.
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i loved all your ideas… and yeah some bounty hunters would be nice... but we had a similar idea in Z... people going after pirates (ok, for different reasons, but the bottom line is the same).... plus, there doesn't seem to be any really strong bounty hunters out there... i mean if there was somebody so strong to pose a threat to the strawhats, we would have heard of him/them... if the bounty hunter story turned out to be true, we'll have to have at least a referrence in the manga, that this or that strong pirate was captured by them or something like that...
my idea is that they will have to defeat some cruel ruler/king who is oppressing his subjects and because the marines or some other pirate is giving him support, they will have to get help by the revolutionairies... that would also fit with the general sabo hype we had this year...
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If there's a character from the Revolution I'm hoping he's Basically Captain Vole.
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If there's a character from the Revolution I'm hoping he's Basically Captain Vole.
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k433/y2kyle89/Vole_zpsyd11zcik.png
Like how Bascud was Basically Spike.spike? like spike spiegel?
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spike? like spike spiegel?
Yeah. Puffy 'fro, fights like Bruce Lee, bounty hunter.
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Yeah. Puffy 'fro, fights like Bruce Lee, bounty hunter.
nah… spike is one of the coolest characters ever... bascud on the other hand was just boooooooring (in dead end adventure at least)... the only thing he did was existing! :P
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I'm really excited for this news!
I hope the main villain will be related to Dragon and that he wanna abduct Luffy and his crew to reach Dragon, something like a Woman who want to push Dragon to go out of his turf and then when Luffy is near to meet up his father then he collapse and then he fight some villain minions and then he finally reach the boss villain but his father already gone , half beat up villain fight luffy again, a hard battle that ends in a draw, the crew gets luffy out and escape.It's all imagination, some stuff might not work out but it is tempting to see Dragon near Luffy!
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I know that. I was talking about the story not a cover. Johnny and Yosaku sailed to Wano to shape their swords and then PAM, Kaidou conflict provoking a war.
That's not a random cover, that's a cover story showing where they are after the timeskip. And they're back at Cocoyashi, fishing.
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I think with the world 'film' being used Oda is certainly going to be overseeing it, at least to the degree he did with film Z. And that has me excited to see the film! I hope to see a good number of non-Straw Hat characters show up much like in film Z.
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I think with the world 'film' being used Oda is certainly going to be overseeing it, at least to the degree he did with film Z. And that has me excited to see the film! I hope to see a good number of non-Straw Hat characters show up much like in film Z.
Yea .
@thaihoa91:!
Thanks for the pic,
Oda's comment: "We will make a new film. Don't miss it!!"
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haha, thanks Zeff. That doesn't exactly state his involvement level, but I'm he'll be overseeing much like Z and Strong World.
Summer 2016 isn't all that far away, which is exciting!
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What exactly is Oda's "involvement" with Film Z? He didn't write it and it seems that he simply let Zephyr's backstory coincide with canon characters. He drew up character designs, but he's done that with a lot of movies, such as 4, 5, 7, and 9. It sounds more like they're slapping Oda's name on it and "Film" so people will go in expecting something really grand like Strong World.
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What exactly is Oda's "involvement" with Film Z? He didn't write it and it seems that he simply let Zephyr's backstory coincide with canon characters. He drew up character designs, but he's done that with a lot of movies, such as 4, 5, 7, and 9. It sounds more like they're slapping Oda's name on it and "Film" so people will go in expecting something really grand like Strong World.
He was executive producer!
Basically he oversees/supervises the creation of the entire movie(everything made for the movie needs his approval. For example Coby and Aokiji(Kuzan)), he also keeps close contact with the producer about how the movie is doing and he is the main guy that reports to the main company(Toei animation) and distributors(that in this case is the main company: Toei).
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However he also created Zetto's back story and attended film's plot creation and execution.
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He was executive producer!
Basically he oversees/supervises the creation of the entire movie(everything made for the movie needs his approval. For example Coby and Aokiji(Kuzan)), he also keeps close contact with the producer about how the movie is doing and he is the main guy that reports to the main company(Toei animation) and distributors(that in this case is the main company: Toei).
I get that he allowed canon characters in this movie, it just doesn't seem enough to be calling it an Oda movie. Like he's always told Toei what Devil Fruits they can and can't use for other movies and filler. The only thing I've read about him overseeing Z was telling the staff that they shouldn't make Luffy so serious all the time. If anyone has any more info about what he's involved in exactly, I'd love to know. It just doesn't really sound like his creation to me in the same vein that Strong World was.
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Strong World was written by Oda, and after that, he said he has no plans to go back and write the story for another movie while the manga is still ongoing.
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The funny thing is, Strong World, the one written by Oda that had all that "Gold Lion Shiki is totally canon to the manga guys!" buildup is…. not canon... the movie can't logically fit into the canon of the story....
Meanwhile, Z pretty much can fit between Fishman Island and Punk Hazard quite easily IIRC.
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The funny thing is, Strong World, the one written by Oda that had all that "Gold Lion Shiki is totally canon to the manga guys!" buildup is…. not canon... the movie can't logically fit into the canon of the story....
Meanwhile, Z pretty much can fit between Fishman Island and Punk Hazard quite easily IIRC.
Can't it? I thought it was obviously between Thriller Bark and Sabaody, since I don't remember a strict timeline between the two. Z doesn't fit as well as you think because if the Tea Party putting them on the clock.
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Can't it? I thought it was obviously between Thriller Bark and Sabaody, since I don't remember a strict timeline between the two. Z doesn't fit as well as you think because if the Tea Party putting them on the clock.
I'll have to rewatch Film Z but I was sure it fit.
Strong World can't fit because of Zoro.
He's supposed to be badly injured and basically knocking on death's door at this point, but it never comes up in the film. Just fighting the Flying Fish Riders, who were portrayed as total scrubs, was too much for him and he got noticeably winded after that fight, yet he goes through all of the events of Strong World without showing one iota of that.
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I'll have to rewatch Film Z but I was sure it fit.
Strong World can't fit because of Zoro.
He's supposed to be badly injured and basically knocking on death's door at this point, but it never comes up in the film. Just fighting the Flying Fish Riders, who were portrayed as total scrubs, was too much for him and he got noticeably winded after that fight, yet he goes through all of the events of Strong World without showing one iota of that.
True, if we have to place strong world then it would happen before they enter the florian triangle, that would make a little more sense, but then there is Brook and therefore kill the whole setup!
So strong world can't be fit into the one piece story line at all and that is the only bad thing i found in this movie.
Film Z can totally fit in the 2 years later gap after sabaondy before the fishman island.
Now the thing is where will the new movie can be placed, or will it be just another dimension like strong world?
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The funny thing is, Strong World, the one written by Oda that had all that "Gold Lion Shiki is totally canon to the manga guys!" buildup is…. not canon... the movie can't logically fit into the canon of the story....
Meanwhile, Z pretty much can fit between Fishman Island and Punk Hazard quite easily IIRC.
Chapter 654 ended with the Sunny flying up to the air into the New World amongst a sea of fire. The first page of chapter 655 had them falling back into the fiery sea, the second page had Sanji chopping up the fish they had caught and were carrying along from the previous chapter, and the very next page had them getting the call that would lead them to Punk Hazard. They pretty much immediately went towards Punk Hazard the instant they entered the New World in the manga, so I don't see how that would work. If we're talking time frames, Strong World being canon would make more sense as it was indicated in the manga that they traveled for a while after Thriller Bark and before reaching the Red Line.
And while its true Strong World had inconsistencies with the manga (like you mentioned, Zoro's condition) Film Z also has one notable inconsistency: Marine Headquarters.
Here is the HQ in Film Z:
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Chapter 654 ended with the Sunny flying up to the air into the New World amongst a sea of fire. The first page of chapter 655 had them falling back into the fiery sea, the second page had Sanji chopping up the fish they had caught and were carrying along from the previous chapter, and the very next page had them getting the call that would lead them to Punk Hazard. They pretty much immediately went towards Punk Hazard the instant they entered the New World in the manga, so I don't see how that would work. If we're talking time frames, Strong World being canon would make more sense as it was indicated in the manga that they traveled for a while after Thriller Bark and before reaching the Red Line.
And while its true Strong World had inconsistencies with the manga (like you mentioned, Zoro's condition) Film Z also has one notable inconsistency: Marine Headquarters.
Here is the HQ in Film Z:
[Hide][qimg]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/c/ca/New_Marine_Headquarters_in_Film_Z.png/revision/latest?cb=20130704135206[/qimg] [/Hide]And Here it is in the manga/anime:
[Hide] [qimg]http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/1/15/Marine_Headquarters_Infobox.png/revision/latest?cb=20140916081947[/qimg][qimg]http://oi58.tinypic.com/s0wvtd.jpg[/qimg][/Hide]Well it's easier to handwave the fiery sea than it is to handwave Zoro showing absolutely no signs of his downright crippling injuries. Just say that the flaming seas they exited from in chapter 654 were just a random New World phenomenon and that they then continued sailing for a while before then encountering a second sea of fire which was connected to Punk Hazard… Yeah it's still a bit of a stretch but it's more logical than "Zoro somehow manages to do all his usual badassery while barely breaking a sweat, when just a day later he practically faints from trying to fight low-level mooks". Oh and if one goes by the anime timeline there's no inconsistency at all as they didn't even emerge into the New World to a sea of flames in the first place...
Navy HQ... Well yeah, that's a bit of an inconsistency, but still, that's hardly the first time something has mysteriously changed for no apparent reason between its appearances. Like, weren't the Seven Warlords portrayed as just seven completely normal-looking dudes when they were first introduced? It's an inconsistency, sure, but it doesn't really affect the story all THAT much. -
None of these movies are canon.
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@Vegard:
Well it's easier to handwave the fiery sea than it is to handwave Zoro showing absolutely no signs of his downright crippling injuries. Just say that the flaming seas they exited from in chapter 654 were just a random New World phenomenon and that they then continued sailing for a while before then encountering a second sea of fire which was connected to Punk Hazard… Yeah it's still a bit of a stretch but it's more logical than "Zoro somehow manages to do all his usual badassery while barely breaking a sweat, when just a day later he practically faints from trying to fight low-level mooks". Oh and if one goes by the anime timeline there's no inconsistency at all as they didn't even emerge into the New World to a sea of flames in the first place...
Navy HQ... Well yeah, that's a bit of an inconsistency, but still, that's hardly the first time something has mysteriously changed for no apparent reason between its appearances. Like, weren't the Seven Warlords portrayed as just seven completely normal-looking dudes when they were first introduced? It's an inconsistency, sure, but it doesn't really affect the story all THAT much.The fact that Oda made no effort to try and create a timeframe for this movie to possibly fit into (nor even acknowledged the film characters in the manga like he did with Shiki) makes it harder for me to accept it as anything close to canon, especially when the anime had to change the sequence of events to make the movie’s timeline make more sense. Also Demon Rin’s post specifically mentioned being “canon to the manga”, so I wasn’t really taking the anime’s timeline into account with my initial post.
As for the Seven Warlords, the first time we saw them they were in silhouette and the guy explaining to us has probably never seen what all of them look like before. It can be easily argued that it was simply Yosaku’s interpretation of what they looked like. And the silhouettes were so vague that it was clear the actual Warlords probably wouldn’t look the same when they eventually showed up. Film Z straight up created their own interpretation of what Marine Headquarters looked like, which ended up being completely wrong.
None of these movies are canon.
You’re right, you’re right. I probably shouldn’t be arguing which non-canon movie is “more canon”. I think I’m done arguing about this.
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I'll have to rewatch Film Z but I was sure it fit.
Strong World can't fit because of Zoro.
He's supposed to be badly injured and basically knocking on death's door at this point, but it never comes up in the film. Just fighting the Flying Fish Riders, who were portrayed as total scrubs, was too much for him and he got noticeably winded after that fight, yet he goes through all of the events of Strong World without showing one iota of that.
Nice points. Though Zoro didn't exactly exert himself in Strong World :ninja:
Honestly, there hasn't been a good period between arcs to place a movie since before Thriller Bark, meaning that if they were adhering strictly to manga canon they wouldn't have been able to make a movie starring the whole crew for the past 7 or so years. Given those limitations, both movies are set in the least disruptive places so far. If you're feeling optimistic, you can even take the news of a new OP Film as a sign that both halves of the crew will soon be reunited.
As succinctly stated above, neither movie is canon. Oda has, however, made efforts to integrate the backstories of the movie characters into the canon manga. Take that as you will.
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I get that he allowed canon characters in this movie, it just doesn't seem enough to be calling it an Oda movie. Like he's always told Toei what Devil Fruits they can and can't use for other movies and filler. The only thing I've read about him overseeing Z was telling the staff that they shouldn't make Luffy so serious all the time. If anyone has any more info about what he's involved in exactly, I'd love to know. It just doesn't really sound like his creation to me in the same vein that Strong World was.
Oda was the executive producer of the movie not the Director, that is normally the one that takes "ownership" of the work. Film Z was never treated as Oda's movie, but a movie with his high involvement.
What he did this time is way more than just allowing canon characters, devil fruits and characters designs. Here is an interview with the producer of One Piece film Z -> http://www.okwave.com/campaign/onepiecefilm?section=interview_producer
(Note: You can also see the interview with the director in the top tabs)How was Mr. Oda involved in the movie this time?
It seems like Mr. Oda got too involved in Strong World, and in order to focus more on manga he wished take on the title of Producer. However, this is the first film in the New World Saga, and he wants to show everyone how Luffy got stronger in those 2 years. In order to have everyone enjoy One Piece's magnificent story and battles, Mr. Oda was indispensible. So, Mr. Nagamine and Mr. Suzuki and I went to Mr. Oda's workplace to conduct meetings many times. Mr. Oda dumbfounded us with his ideas, and I think we were able to have a deep conversation every time. We ended up having more contact and meetings for this movie than we did with Strong World. I received a half-joking, half-serious text from Mr. Oda: "Just how much are going to make me write, idiot?!" (laughs).
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Oda was the executive producer of the movie not the Director, that is normally the one that takes "ownership" of the work. Film Z was never treated as Oda's movie, but a movie with his high involvement.
What he did this time is way more than just allowing canon characters, devil fruits and characters designs. Here is an interview with the producer of One Piece film Z -> http://www.okwave.com/campaign/onepiecefilm?section=interview_producer
(Note: You can also see the interview with the director in the top tabs)Great, that really helps me get how involved he was. Thanks for that interview!
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One Piece Film: Secret
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Anddddd we got nothing.
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Jump Festa is probably where most of the news will come in.
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We know it will be in Summer, or may be it was announced already?
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We know it will be in Summer, or may be it was announced already?
We knew it was going to be summer when they first announced it on TV.
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@Galaxy:
We knew it was going to be summer when they first announced it on TV.
Oh then nothing new…
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I've got my volume. Taking a closer look, we can find some new characters.
[Mirror]http://imgur.com/a/DiBex