I think kaido has multiple fruits, tbh.
Theory : Kaido has a Dragon Devil Fruit
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This does not help your theory but I just make the connection on my mind. Back at chapter 795 Sheephead and the others was not in search for Momo (that Samurai) but for Raizou!
Yes Raizou is a Ninja but until now Oda are always was said that there was 3 Samurai and Momo
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This does not help your theory but I just make the connection on my mind. Back at chapter 795 Sheephead and the others was not in search for Momo (that Samurai) but for Raizou!
Yes Raizou is a Ninja but until now Oda are always was said that there was 3 Samurai and Momo
When Jora was attacking the Straw Hats' ship, Momonosuke was telling Brook that "they are here for him". In other words, "they" are targeting Momonosuke.
After Doflamingo concluded his fight with Law in front of the coliseum, Zoro and Kinemon were charging toward him in order to save Law from him, and Doflamingo started talking about Momonosuke, about which Zoro said that "they will not hand Momonosuke over". This further indicates that among the three Samurai at Dressrosa, Momonosuke is the one who is targeted.
After Sanji, Momonosuke and company escaped Doflamingo, Nami said that they are struggling against Doflamingo for three cards: Caesar, Smile factory, and Momonosuke.
Both Caesar and the Smile factory are related to Kaido because they produce Smile for him, so it is inductively very probable that Momonosuke is related to him as well(although not in the same way).
After Doflamingo was defeated and everyone reached Zo, Kanjuro said that they must ascertain Momonosuke's safety.
Doflamingo who was a threat to Momonosuke's safety was defeated, but Momonosuke's safety is still an unsolved problem for them. This indicates that Doflamingo was not the problem all along, but something else, and I have shown in the theory that it is Kaido.
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I really wouldn't like Kaido being the shogun, I was really hoping to see top tiers that are not marines or pirates, aka the shogun of wano.
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I think kaido has multiple fruits, tbh.
Including his Dragon Devil Fruit? By multiple fruits are you referring to artificial devil fruits or real devil fruits? We know that consuming two real devil fruits is fatal; however, it was never mentioned that consuming a real devil fruit and an artificial devil fruit could be fatal. So maybe a person could consume a real devil fruit and a Smile. However, a hundred of them?
When Law mentioned Kaido's dealings with Doflamigo(buying Smiles), he associated that with the strengthening of his army(500 Smile users).
Personally, I think that's all what the Smiles amount to.
@LordEnel:I really wouldn't like Kaido being the shogun, I was really hoping to see top tiers that are not marines or pirates, aka the shogun of wano.
I don't think Kaido is the shogun. Momo idolizes a shogun but dreads Kaido; If Kaido had been a shogun, Momo would have displayed some sort of rejection of the idea of becoming a shogun. I think we are going to see the shogun of Wa
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After ch. 807 I think that Kin'emon, Kanjuro and Raizou was the escort team of Momonosuke to Zou for some kind of deal/pacific team/or something as it seems Minks don't like Wanokunians for some reason
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Including his Dragon Devil Fruit? By multiple fruits are you referring to artificial devil fruits or real devil fruits? We know that consuming two real devil fruits is fatal; however, it was never mentioned that consuming a real devil fruit and an artificial devil fruit could be fatal. So maybe a person could consume a real devil fruit and a Smile. However, a hundred of them?
When Law mentioned Kaido's dealings with Doflamigo(buying Smiles), he associated that with the strengthening of his army(500 Smile users).
Personally, I think that's all what the Smiles amount to.I don't think Kaido is the shogun. Momo idolizes a shogun but dreads Kaido; If Kaido had been a shogun, Momo would have displayed some sort of rejection of the idea of becoming a shogun. I think we are going to see the shogun of Wa
I mean, if he's tried everything (in killing himself) then he's most likely tried eating more than one devil fruit.
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After ch. 807 I think that Kin'emon, Kanjuro and Raizou was the escort team of Momonosuke to Zou for some kind of deal/pacific team/or something as it seems Minks don't like Wanokunians for some reason
It's implied they don't like the Samurai because Jack razed their country just to find Raizou.
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Great theory man! Very detailed, awesome work my hats off to ya!
However, you said
That is not possible because Kanjuro has never seen Momonosuke after he has consumed his artificial Dragon Devil Fruit.
From what I can tell no ones addressed this, and since I skimmed it's possible I misunderstand your meaning. However, Kin'emon has seen Momo transformed and Luffy explained that the Dragon was actually Momo when Kin'emon was confused why there was a dragon.
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Maybe I misunderstood, if so my bad hahaThis thread has a lot of great information, I can't wait to read it in detail!
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After ch. 807 I think that Kin'emon, Kanjuro and Raizou was the escort team of Momonosuke to Zou for some kind of deal/pacific team/or something as it seems Minks don't like Wanokunians for some reason
That’s a pretty reasonable possibility, especially since Kanjuro was concerned about Raizou’s 'safe arrival'. According to Kanjuro’s implication, the possible problems that Raizou could have been facing were only in his travel to Zou(like a storm or some danger in the sea that could be considered as an obstacle to his safe arrival to Zou).
I thought about the danger that could threaten his safe arrival as Kaido’s goons. However, if that had been the case, Kanjuro should have also been worried about his safety at Zou just as he was worried about Momonosuke’s safety because if Kaido’s goons (Jack) could locate him at sea in order to create some sort of impediment to his destination, Zou, they should also be able to follow him to Zou.
I just hope that the unfoldment of these mysteries would not veer from the realm of sense & reason.Regarding the reason why the Minks react negatively to the word ‘samurai’ or the ‘Kingdom of Wa’, I agree with Amigo: In other words, it is because Jack destroyed their country in search of the samurai Raizou.
When Brook was informing his crewmates about the consequences of mentioning the word ‘samurai’, he said that it digs up ‘wounds’ in many people at Zou(according to Mangastream’s translation). I believe that’s the message the author intends to convey at the current chapter.
@Kaze:I mean, if he's tried everything (in killing himself) then he's most likely tried eating more than one devil fruit.
Ah, I see. I wouldn’t have thought about it like this had you not told me. You know, Kaido displayed ‘pickiness’ about how he desires to die. He wasn’t seeking death at any possible price. His suicide methods were said to be almost ‘unheard of’. Dying by consuming two devil fruits is something commonly heard of, so I doubt that. Moreover, there is also the statement made by the Five Elders that Blackbeard is the only one in the records of history who managed to consume two devil fruits.
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@Joy_Boy's_Will:Great theory man! Very detailed, awesome work my hats off to ya!
Thank you, Joy Boy:happy:
@Joy_Boy's_Will:However, you said
From what I can tell no ones addressed this, and since I skimmed it's possible I misunderstand your meaning. However, Kin'emon has seen Momo transformed and Luffy explained that the Dragon was actually Momo when Kin'emon was confused why there was a dragon.
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Maybe I misunderstood, if so my bad hahaYes, there has been indeed a misunderstanding: I was talking about Kanjuro whereas you were talking about Kinemon.
Don’t worry about it, though. I myself make these kinds of misunderstandings when I am skimming. Another thing that contributes to the misunderstanding is the similarity between their names. Their names both begin with similar monosyllabic words: KIN & KAN.
@Joy_Boy's_Will:This thread has a lot of great information, I can't wait to read it in detail!
A lot of wonderful people have contributed to this thread with their great ideas. You won't be disappointed :)
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True, but he doesn't have to tell everyone about it either. Plus with SMILE being a relatively new thing, (10 years?) he could have done it in that time to either die, or prepare for the fight with white beard that never happened. The only reason every knows Blackbeard has two is because everyone saw it happen (sorta?). If it's not another devil fruit, it's probably haki, and that would be kind of a let down for me. Oh well.
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True, but he doesn't have to tell everyone about it either.
If he has consumed a secondary ability, it is bound to show itself in a fight, and people will know about it as a result. However, the possibility that his secondary ability would be unknown to the World Government despite being shown to other adversaries in battles is always up to the author. He can go with it and justify it somehow.
@Kaze:Plus with SMILE being a relatively new thing, (10 years?) he could have done it in that time to either die, or prepare for the fight with white beard that never happened.
The reason that Kaido was amassing his army using Smile was that he wanted to wage a war against the World Government. I made a theory about it. Here is the link in case you didn’t read it:
http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=43142
It's a theory that goes beyond just waging a war against the Government.
@Kaze:The only reason every knows Blackbeard has two is because everyone saw it happen (sorta?). If it's not another devil fruit, it's probably haki, and that would be kind of a let down for me. Oh well.
I am sorry, but I did not understand this part. The consumption of a secondary ability to grant Kaido his death wish is perfectly understandable, but I don’t understand how haki could make that happen. Perhaps I misinterpreted this?
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I am sorry, but I did not understand this part. The consumption of a secondary ability to grant Kaido his death wish is perfectly understandable, but I don’t understand how haki could make that happen. Perhaps I misinterpreted this?
It just means that Kaidou has survived through every incident because his armament haki is so strong he can't receive damage.
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This does not help your theory but I just make the connection on my mind. Back at chapter 795 Sheephead and the others was not in search for Momo (that Samurai) but for Raizou!
You were right about that
@G8trH8tr:It just means that Kaidou has survived through every incident because his armament haki is so strong he can't receive damage.
Thank you for the explanation :) There is only one problem with this: we were talking about a secondary ability as a cause of Kaido's death, and it is for this reason that I failed to understand how haki could substitute the secondary ability as another cause of death.
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I want to share something about the importance of the four samurai to Kaido. Not all samurai are important to Kaido. The only ones we have seen with importance to Kaido are Momonosuke and Raizou.
Back at Punk Hazard, Doflamingo ordered Caesar to kill Kinemon.
If he had been as important as the other two, Doflamingo wouldn’t have given Caesar such order.I don’t know about Kanjuro’s importance. Kinemon said that Doflamingo kept him as ‘hostage’(probably to draw Momonosuke).
Kanjuro also appears to prioritize Momonosuke over himself.There is also the time when Doflamingo used the bird cage to kill everyone, including both Kanjuro & Kinemon. This most likely indicates that he is 'expendable'.
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Ok, so the argument here is that there are devil fruits that create permanently an abnormal, physical change in a person's appearance to match the ability of each one of them. I'll begin this argument chronologically.
First off, we have Wapol. Matching his ability, Wapol's jaw has become permanently made up of tin plates ever since he consumed the Munch Munch Fruit.
Secondly, we have Kuma. Kuma's devil fruit, the Paw Paw Fruit, has permanently changed the palms of his hands ever since he consumed it.
He was even shown wearing gloves in order to avoid causing some kind of harm with his ability to innocent people,and he removes them when he is about to use his ability in combat. That's a very clear indication that his paws are not something he could 'deactivate' willingly when he is not engaged in combat.
Thirdly, we have Scrachmen Apoo. Ever since Apoo consumed some kind of music devil fruit, his teeth have permanently become a piano keyboard, matching his ability.
Fourthly, we have Sandersonia. Ever since Sandersonia consumed a Snake Devil Fruit, her tongue has become long and forked just like a snake's tongue.
Finally and most importantly, we have Kaido. So far we have seen that some devil fruit users gain permanently an abnormal appearance change that matches the ability of each of them. Kaido has an abnormally long mustache as his appearance change that matches particularly a dragon's whiskers. It is extremely similar to Momonosuke's dragon whiskers.
Since we've seen thus far that some devil fruits can alter some physical aspect in the users' appearance to match their abilities, and since Kaido's mustache extremely resembles a dragon's whiskers , it follows that his abnormally long mustache then is most likely the result of a dragon ability.These whiskers are shown mostly, if not only, in Eastern dragons, so Kaido most likely has an Eastern Dragon Devil Fruit.
When I thought of a name to his ability, I reached the conclusion that he might have the Snake Snake Fruit: Model Dragon.
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After seeing Jack, I thought that maybe Kaido doesn't have horns like we all believed. Maybe the fake tusks coming out of that furry coat is a trademark for his crewmembers. At least the top members. The tusks seem to be coming from his head (which would make them horns) but maybe that just the angle of the shot giving that impression. Maybe… just maybe... they're just "coat tusks".
(I am aware that this has nothing to do with the subject of this thread, but I coudn't think of a better thread, since it's about Kaido too)
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After seeing Jack, I thought that maybe Kaido doesn't have horns like we all believed. Maybe the fake tusks coming out of that furry coat is a trademark for his crewmembers. At least the top members. The tusks seem to be coming from his head (which would make them horns) but maybe that just the angle of the shot giving that impression. Maybe… just maybe... they're just "coat tusks".
(I am aware that this has nothing to do with the subject of this thread, but I coudn't think of a better thread, since it's about Kaido too)
Well, I think that those are his genuine horns. The reason I'm saying this is that they were shown to be an inherent part of his skull in his Jolly Roger.
Furthermore, when Doflamingo was talking to Tsuru from his cell about the current ruler of the sea, Kaido was shown with horns sticking out of his head.
Hope this helps.
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Well, I think that those are his genuine horns. The reason I'm saying this is that they were shown to be an inherent part of his skull in his Jolly Roger.
http://i.imgur.com/tJWsenY.pngFurthermore, when Doflamingo was talking to Tsuru from his cell about the current ruler of the sea, Kaido was shown with horns sticking out of his head.
http://i.imgur.com/3qJeRmh.pngHope this helps.
I guess that second image convinced me. I had forgotten about it. Thanks.
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how kaidou is df user when he was introduced strongest in land air and sea
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Kaido is referred to as the strongest "creature" on the planet, not human, which makes me think that rather than a human who ate the dragon zoan, he's a dragon that ate the Human Human Fruit: Model Giant.
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how kaidou is df user when he was introduced strongest in land air and sea
Well Ace survived too even though he fell in the river and Luffy has been about to drown multiple times too, so Kaido might just be lucky as devil. In OP world it's also implied that strong people tend to be more lucky.
"In mad world, only the mad are sane."
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Well Ace survived too even though he fell in the river and Luffy has been about to drown multiple times too, so Kaido might just be lucky as devil. In OP world it's also implied that strong people tend to be more lucky.
so lucky that he became strongest in sea ?
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how kaidou is df user when he was introduced strongest in land air and sea
The author there means that he is stronger than humans, skypeans(people of the sky), and fishmen or mermen.
You don't have to be swimmer to gain such appellations: Whitebeard was referred to as the King of the Seas, yet he had a devil fruit.
@Fire Fist:Kaido is referred to as the strongest "creature" on the planet, not human, which makes me think that rather than a human who ate the dragon zoan, he's a dragon that ate the Human Human Fruit: Model Giant.
Kaido is referred to as a 'creature' to emphasize his dominant strength. The method of emphasis was to compare him to other creatures (skypeans, fishmen or mermen, etc) including humans, especially when he himself is NOT 'human' because of the horns on his head. Humans don't have horns on their heads, so that is another reason for being referred to as a 'creature'. Even if you were to use something as 'the Strongest Man', it wouldn't really apply to him.
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As I have theorized before, Kaido was the one who planted aviophobia (fear of flight) in Momonosuke by taking him in the air.
In this week's chapter, we see, from Momonosuke's flashback of Kaido's terror in Wano, someone telling Momonosuke with strong emotions to gaze out upon it; that is the world.
My theory is that this is the moment when Kaido was taking Momo in the sky. No matter how you look at it, whoever was showing Momonosuke the world was showing it to him from great heights. And that person conveniently turns out to be in the same flashback that was revolving around Kaido. -
As I have theorized before, Kaido was the one who planted aviophobia (fear of flight) in Momonosuke by taking him in the air.
http://i.imgur.com/ZWZW7Y1.png
In this week's chapter, we see, from Momonosuke's flashback of Kaido's terror in Wano, someone telling Momonosuke with strong emotions to gaze out upon it; that is the world.
http://i.imgur.com/X1k9Alk.jpg
My theory is that this is the moment when Kaido was taking Momo in the sky. No matter how you look at it, whoever was showing Momonosuke the world was showing it to him from great heights. And that person conveniently turns out to be in the same flashback that was revolving around Kaido.So you think Kaido took Momo for a trip to impart worldly wisdom to him.:ninja:
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I always thought this "flying man" Momonosuke fears was Doflamingo, since he could fly, and every flashback, simply thinking about Doffy made Momonosuke tremble in fear. It will be awesome if Kaido was a dragon who ate the giant DF, and Dragon eating some kind of Dragon DF who could control weather, or simply wind. And for those who think it would be lame if Dragon's fruit is Dragon zoan because of his name, what if he started to be recognized by Dragon after he ate that fruit? Then his comrades started calling him Dragon and the nickname stood so firmily that even Garp call him this way.
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After thinking about it i finally turned around on this theory and do think Kaido is somehow a dragon. Either ate a mythical zoan dragon df or is a dragon who ate a human fruit. I'm convinced by the line that goes like "spears break on his skin, ropes break around his neck". One of the defining characteristics of dragons is their scales which protect them against pretty much everything. Not only that, but dragons are also supposed to be immortal. Both traits which may annoy Kaido and have forced him to make suicide a hobby. Since nothing can hurt him because of the DF and he can't die because of a dragons natural abilities.
Not only does it make sense, i'm hoping it's true because there is no creature real or myth more powerful than a dragon(i don't care about your obscure creatures) and a dragon is deserving to be the king of the beasts. Not only that but zoan abilities are said to be the toughest physically, and a dragon df would take that durability to a whole other level and it may actually be the strongest zoan, period. Just like how the gura gura is supposed to be the strongest paramecia. I love this theory and can't wait to see Luffy know true fear.
EDIT: I posted all this without reading the theory. Just read the title a while back and since we had similar reasons to believe in this it's probably true.
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As I have theorized before, Kaido was the one who planted aviophobia (fear of flight) in Momonosuke by taking him in the air.
http://i.imgur.com/ZWZW7Y1.png
In this week's chapter, we see, from Momonosuke's flashback of Kaido's terror in Wano, someone telling Momonosuke with strong emotions to gaze out upon it; that is the world.
http://i.imgur.com/X1k9Alk.jpg
My theory is that this is the moment when Kaido was taking Momo in the sky. No matter how you look at it, whoever was showing Momonosuke the world was showing it to him from great heights. And that person conveniently turns out to be in the same flashback that was revolving around Kaido.Thats probably from the dad when he wasnt in mortal danger
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
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So you think Kaido took Momo for a trip to impart worldly wisdom to him.:ninja:
Kaido was for a fact shown giving Momo unpredictable amount of attention as though he is trying to make him aware of some things. Here, for instance, it looks like Kaido is trying to make Momo aware of his father’s folly.
The reasons that I arrived at this conclusion are these :
- That memory is from a flashback that is replete with bitter memories, so it is reasonable to conclude that this too is likely a bitter memory.
- The entire flashback revolves around the tragedies that Kaido wrought upon Momo, so it is reasonable to conclude that this too is likely to be one of those tragedies.
- Whoever was saying it was saying it with forceful emotions like a command or something along these lines, as indicated by the double exclamatory marks. It is not a manner of speech I expect Oden to use in order to talk to his own, beloved son.
- Whatever was shown to Momo is a representation of ‘the world’. Among the things that could represent the world is the world itself from a high vantage point. For instance, the higher you fly, the more you can see of the world.
Of course, there is no guarantee that this is what happened, but it is highly probable.
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Thats probably from the dad when he wasnt in mortal danger
What if those were Oden's last words?:sad:
We know Oden wanted to open Wano's borders, and that is actually what the samurai are striving to achieve. When you look at those words
It actually resonates with the Oden's wish to open the borders. Since Wano is closed off to foreigners, Momo never got to see the outside world, the real world. So to me this could be the moment Oden passed his will unto his son, and Momo will inherit it and open the borders so that Wano will finally be open on the outside world.
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Kaido was for a fact shown giving Momo unpredictable amount of attention as though he is trying to make him aware of some things. Here, for instance, it looks like Kaido is trying to make Momo aware of his father’s folly.
http://i.imgur.com/dJRchNi.pngThe reasons that I arrived at this conclusion are these :
- That memory is from a flashback that is replete with bitter memories, so it is reasonable to conclude that this too is likely a bitter memory.
- The entire flashback revolves around the tragedies that Kaido wrought upon Momo, so it is reasonable to conclude that this too is likely to be one of those tragedies.
- Whoever was saying it was saying it with forceful emotions like a command or something along these lines, as indicated by the double exclamatory marks. It is not a manner of speech I expect Oden to use in order to talk to his own, beloved son.
- Whatever was shown to Momo is a representation of ‘the world’. Among the things that could represent the world is the world itself from a high vantage point. For instance, the higher you fly, the more you can see of the world.
Of course, there is no guarantee that this is what happened, but it is highly probable.
It's a valid interpretation, but not the only one. The other one would be Oden passing his will to Momonosuke as they parted, right as Momo and the others are escaping Wano.
About your first and second point, there's no evidence that this line and the flashback with Kaido are both part of the same flashback, and even more so we don't know who is saying those words. And although those are bitter memories for the most part, it can also be a bitter memory if it's Oden's last words(to Momo).Kaido is not the only valid option.
About your third point, the exclamation marks and the somewhat commanding tone are the result of emotion. In Oden's case, it is him sharing his wisdom and last words with his son, as they would be separated for good. It wouldn't be impossible for Oden to use such a tone, if he were about to be killed, and had to say goodbye to his son.
About the fourth one, while it might be true that a good way to gaze at the world is to do it from a high vantage point, something like seeing the outside world can be achieved by leaving Wano altogether.To me that scene could take place at the borders, while Momo and the others are escaping, and Oden is parting with them. "Seeing" the real world would amount to leave Wano, since it has closed off its borders.And that is something Oden exprienced himself since he left Wano and sailed around the world.Well that's just another way to interpret those events.
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I too thought that it was Oden who was giving Momo such wisdom.There is no reason for Kaido to say such philosophical words to a brats.He may have his own philosophy,but his destructive nature is pretty much against such sweet-talk. -
I support the idea that it's Oden's words. It matches his character. He left his country a few times to sail and explore the outside world, and this could be him trying to give Momo the motivation he had to do so. Something like: "you should explore the world as much as you want, as you'll never stop finding new things", or "someone who never expands his horizons misses out on life". This in turn could be Oda trying to give the readers motivation that the borders should be opened.
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One little thing that invalidate the whole "Kaidou DF user" is that he's mentionned as the strongest creature alive on earth, sky and SEA (which is the most dangerous place for a fight for a DF user)
You can't have that title without almost know how to swim. I think he can be a kind of Fishman hybrid or anything else new, but not a DF user no matter ability this could be. -
One little thing that invalidate the whole "Kaidou DF user" is that he's mentionned as the strongest creature alive on earth, sky and SEA (which is the most dangerous place for a fight for a DF user)
.I don't think the Sea part was literal. Plus, what is the point in having an army of Zoan DF users if you are don't?
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One little thing that invalidate the whole "Kaidou DF user" is that he's mentionned as the strongest creature alive on earth, sky and SEA (which is the most dangerous place for a fight for a DF user)
You can't have that title without almost know how to swim. I think he can be a kind of Fishman hybrid or anything else new, but not a DF user no matter ability this could be.I don't think it means it literally….
Though i did have passing thought that maybe he was a Fishman hybrid because of his horns.......but then by that logic, so would Oars Jr......so.....
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Don't forget that the narrator said "one on one", how can he beat a sea king without be able to goes on water at least?
Plus, what is the point in having an army of Zoan DF users if you are don't?
Because he's got a Zoan army he is a Zoan too, he really needs to be one oblviously? I really don't get that "obvious" point at all, there's no logic behind that line.
He's the captain and leader, not making part of his army. I agree that his alliances and divisions are probably all Zoan btw
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It seems Kaido's weapon of choice is a mace club. But if we look at Moria, he has a slash down his body by an obvious bladed weapon from Kaido.
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Don't forget that the narrator said "one on one", how can he beat a sea king without be able to goes on water at least?
Because he's got a Zoan army he is a Zoan too, he really needs to be one oblviously? I really don't get that "obvious" point at all, there's no logic behind that line.
He's the captain and leader, not making part of his army. I agree that his alliances and divisions are probably all Zoan btw
Kaidou seems to wants pure strength fighters, certainly like him, and Zoan are the most fit DF for thatAnd the title "Strongest Creature" isn't even the most obvious hint? The only way you can see him not being a DF is just not wishing he being.
@genocyber:It seems Kaido's weapon of choice is a mace club. But if we look at Moria, he has a slash down his body by an obvious bladed weapon from Kaido.
Whatever wound Moria have in his body means no shit.
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Since it will be at least next year until Luffy fights Kaido, and there are Kaido discussions all over the place, don't we need a General Kaido Thread? Or are we going to discuss about him here most of the time? But this is a theory thread…
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Even Kaido is said to be the strongest living creature, I seriously doubt him being stronger than Shanks, Akainu or BB. What do you think, guys ?
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I think that if he is said to be, then he is.
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Even Kaido is said to be the strongest living creature, I seriously doubt him being stronger than Shanks, Akainu or BB. What do you think, guys ?
I've been wondering myself really, their exact definition of strongest. There is the detail of him been referred as a creature instead of human, so if they are making that distinction…then, well he is just the strongest of that subtype. If not, then he probably has massive raw strength (assumed), durability (sky jump 10,000m), and the fact that every blow that could kill him, just puts him to sleep (Example: Whitebeard quakes his face, Kaido doesn't die, but sleeps for a bit, you know to recover).
I wonder who gave him that scar on his stomach, maybe he was really fat and got a stomach reduction.
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I wonder who gave him that scar on his stomach, maybe he was really fat and got a stomach reduction.
Could be a failed attempt of harakiri :ninja:
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Could be a failed attempt of harakiri :ninja:
http://i.imgur.com/viAKc.gifWith his hobbies, probably right on the money. I can imagine the scene, and turning into a comedy, he is drunk, he fails, keeps drinking with sword still through him, gets angry "I FAILED AGAIN!!"
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Congratulation, you where right
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Yeah he could be a dragon with the oni fruit but I kind of doubt it now
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After re-reading this thread I want to make saying "If Kaido wants to die why doesn't he just jump into the water" grounds for a ban.
